Deb Willis and Hank Willis Thomas: A mother and son united by love and art
黛博拉威利斯、漢克威利斯湯瑪斯: 由愛和藝術聯合在一起的母子
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我是黛比的兒子。
I See Myself In You,"
the symbiotic relationship
through our life and work.
in my mother's footsteps
一種做事的方式、
it's a way of doing,
and it's a way of seeing.
when they make photographs.
and finding love.
in my family and friends
訴說人生故事的一種方式,
as a way of telling a story about life,
to become a family in North Philadelphia.
所代表的意義。
都花在尋找照片,
searching for pictures
黑人的愛、黑人的喜悅,
about black love, black joy
the action of love overrules as a verb.
視為動詞是很重要的。
if the love of looking is genetic,
我熱愛「看」是否是基因遺傳,
since before I can even remember.
after my mother and her mother --
were my first love.
for calling me a "ham"
to my grandmother's house,
是我的什麼人?
and who are they to me,
when that picture was taken?
before I was born?"
in black and white.
in North Philadelphia,
看著「Ebony」雜誌時,
looking at "Ebony Magazine,"
通常是在每天新聞中沒有的故事,
that were often not in the daily news,
to be energetic for me,
家庭相簿充滿活力,
碰巧看到一本書,
in the Philadelphia Public Library
by Roy DeCarava and Langston Hughes.
和朗斯頓·休斯。
as a seven-year-old,
as a seven-year-old,
出自羅伊·捷卡拉娃之手,
that Roy DeCarava made
訴說人生故事的方式。
that I could tell a story about life.
改變了我人生。
that basically changed my life.
told me that every photographer,
trying to answer one question,
看不見我們有多美麗、
see how beautiful we are,
see our community the way I do?"
以我的方式來看我們的社區?」
that I was taking up a good man's space.
我佔了一個好男人的空間。
of becoming a photographer.
課堂上羞辱我。
in a class full of male photographers.
身為女人的位置,違反了規則,
and out of order as a woman,
that all you could and would do
讓給一個好男人。
could have had your seat in this class.
into that experience.
and I was determined to prove to him
我下定決心要向他證明
for a seat in that class.
"Why did I need to prove it to him?"
「我為什麼需要向他證明?
and I knew I needed to prove to myself
a difference in photography.
is going to stop me from making images.
I got pregnant.
性別歧視語言,
that he used against me
and made photographs daily,
我懷孕的肚子也成了攝影的主題。
as I prepared for graduate school.
that black photographers were missing
for ways to tell a story.
《武器的選擇》,
"A Choice of Weapons,"
所做的索引貼印照片,
that I made of my pregnant belly,
to create a new piece,
「佔了好男人的位置的女人」、
taking a place from a good man,"
and reversed it and said,
我媽會把廚房變成暗房。
would turn the kitchen into a darkroom.
just pictures that she took
of and by people that we didn't know,
of men and women that we knew,
認識的男女的照片,
from what I learned in school,
to figure out what she was up to,
才搞懂她打算幹什麼,
she published this book,
A Bio-Bibliography."
個人參考目錄》。
我就覺得很驚訝。
were making photographs.
before the end of slavery,
of science and technology,
只為了拍張照片。
just to make a single photograph.
能促使他們這麼做?
to do that if not love?
"Black Photographers, 1940-1988,"
《黑人攝影師,1940~1988》,
然後又是另一本,又是另一本,
and another book, and another book,
又是另一本,又是另一本,
and another book, and another book,
又是另一本,又是另一本,
and another book, and another book,
又是另一本,又是另一本,
and another book, and another.
on every continent,
但靈感都來自好奇心,
but all inspired by the curiosity
黑人小女孩的好奇心。
from North Philadelphia.
black photographers had stories to tell,
有故事要訴說,
這類的黑人攝影師,
like Augustus Washington,
這些漂亮的銀版照片。
in the early 1840s and '50s.
black photographers,
about black life during slavery,
有不同的講述方式,
and telling stories about community.
和說出社區的故事。
needed to know this story.
my mother's first student.
我媽媽的第一個學生。
puppet strings --
──木偶繩──
should make my own pictures
and the now and then.
how I could use photography
outside of the frame of the camera
真正製作影像的人手裡,
of the actual image maker
what's being cut out.
as a jumping-off point
about how I could use historical images
for human rights and equal rights
畫作的形式來呈現。
one piece has affected me the most.
有一件作品對我影響最大。
歐內斯特·維瑟斯拍的照片。
by Ernest Withers,
堅決聲明他們的人性。
to affirm their humanity.
that said "I am a man,"
because the phrase I grew up with
而是「我是『好漢』」。
it was "I am the man,"
種族隔離期間的集體聲明
collective statement during segregation
after integration.
把我能想出的方式都用出來,
in as many ways as I could think of,
as a timeline of American history,
視為美國歷史的時間線,
你是好漢。好個好漢。」
You the man. What a man.
我是,是我。
兩個字是「我是」。
in the English language is, "I am."
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Deborah Willis - Curator, photographerDeborah Willis is a photographer and writer in search of beauty.
Why you should listen
As an author and curator, Deborah Willis's pioneering research has focused on cultural histories envisioning the black body, women and gender. She is a celebrated photographer, acclaimed historian of photography, MacArthur and Guggenheim Fellow, and University Professor and Chair of the Department of Photography & Imaging at the Tisch School of the Arts at New York University.
Willis received the NAACP Image Award in 2014 for her co-authored book Envisioning Emancipation: Black Americans and the End of Slavery (with Barbara Krauthamer) and in 2015 for the documentary Through a Lens Darkly, inspired by her book Reflections in Black: A History of Black Photographers 1840 to the Present.
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Hank Willis Thomas - Artist
Hank Willis Thomas is a conceptual artist working primarily with themes related to identity, history and popular culture.
Why you should listen
Hank Willis Thomas's work has been exhibited throughout the U.S. and abroad including, the International Center of Photography, Guggenheim Museum Bilbao, Musée du quai Branly, and the Cleveland Museum of Art. His work is in numerous public collections including the Museum of Modern Art New York, the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, the Whitney Museum of American Art, the Brooklyn Museum, the High Museum of Art and the National Gallery of Art in Washington DC, among others.
Thomas's collaborative projects include Question Bridge: Black Males, In Search Of The Truth (The Truth Booth), and For Freedoms. For Freedoms was recently awarded the 2017 ICP Infinity Award for New Media and Online Platform. Thomas is also the recipient of the 2017 Soros Equality Fellowship and the 2017 AIMIA | AGO Photography Prize. Current exhibitions include Prospect 4: The Lotus in Spite of the Swamp in New Orleans and All Things Being Equal at Zeitz Museum of Contemporary Art Africa. In 2017, Thomas also unveiled his permanent public artwork "Love Over Rules" in San Francisco and "All Power to All People" in Opa Locka, Florida. Thomas is a member of the Public Design Commission for the City of New York. He received a BFA in Photography and Africana studies from New York University and an MFA/MA in Photography and Visual Criticism from the California College of Arts. He has also received honorary doctorates from the Maryland Institute of Art and the Institute for Doctoral Studies in the Visual Arts. He lives and works in New York City.
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