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Colin Stokes: How movies teach manhood
Colin Stokes: Kako filmovi utječu na razvoj muževnosti
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Od trenutka kada je trogodišnji sin Colina Stokesa letimično vidio film Ratovi zvijezda bio je potpuno opčinjen njime. Međutim, kakvu mu je poruku taj sci-fi klasik prenio? Stokes zahtijeva više filmova koji dječacima šalju pozitivne poruke: suradnja je čin herojstva, a poštivanje žena jednako je muževno kao i svladavanje negativca.
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Colin Stokes - Proud dad
The director of communications for the non-profit Citizen Schools, Colin Stokes thinks deeply about the media he shares with his two young children. Full bio
The director of communications for the non-profit Citizen Schools, Colin Stokes thinks deeply about the media he shares with his two young children. Full bio
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You know, my favorite part of being a dad
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Znate, najdraža strana očinstva su mi
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is the movies I get to watch.
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filmovi koje gledam.
00:22
I love sharing my favorite movies with my kids,
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Volim dijeliti svoje najdraže filmove sa svojom djecom.
00:23
and when my daughter was four,
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Kad mi je kći imala četiri godine
00:26
we got to watch "The Wizard of Oz" together.
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zajedno smo gledali "Čarobnjaka iz Oza".
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It totally dominated her imagination for months.
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Mjesecima je potpuno vladao njenom maštom.
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Her favorite character was Glinda, of course.
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Njen najdraži lik bila je Glinda.
00:36
It gave her a great excuse to wear a sparkly dress
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To joj je bio dobar izgovor za nošenje haljine sa šljokicama
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and carry a wand.
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i čarobnog štapića.
00:39
But you watch that movie enough times,
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Kad više puta pogledate neki film
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and you start to realize how unusual it is.
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shvatite koliko je neobičan.
00:43
Now we live today, and are raising our children,
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U današnje vrijeme živimo i odgajamo djecu
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in a kind of children's-fantasy-spectacular-industrial complex.
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u jednoj vrsti industrijskog kompleksa usmjerenog na dječju maštu i spektakl.
00:52
But "The Wizard of Oz" stood alone.
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No, "Čarobnjak iz Oza" se izdvajao.
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It did not start that trend.
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Nije započeo taj trend.
00:56
Forty years later was when the trend really caught on,
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Taj trend se raširio 40 godina kasnije,
01:00
with, interestingly, another movie
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zahvaljujući drugom filmu
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that featured a metal guy
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koji je uključivao metalnog tipa
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and a furry guy
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i dlakavog tipa
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rescuing a girl by dressing up as the enemy's guards.
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koji su preobučeni u neprijateljsku stražu spašavali djevojku.
01:11
Do you know what I'm talking about? (Laughter)
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Znate o čemu govorim? (Smijeh)
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Yeah.
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Da.
01:15
Now, there's a big difference between these two movies,
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Velika je razlika između ova dva filma,
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a couple of really big differences between "The Wizard of Oz"
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poatoji nekoliko velikih razlika
između "Čarobnjaka iz Oza"
između "Čarobnjaka iz Oza"
01:20
and all the movies we watch today.
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i svih filmova koje gledamo danas.
01:21
One is there's very little violence in "The Wizard of Oz."
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Jedna je ta što u "Čarobnjaku iz Oza" ima
jako malo nasilja.
jako malo nasilja.
01:25
The monkeys are rather aggressive, as are the apple trees.
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Majmuni su agresivni koliko i stabla jabuka.
01:30
But I think if "The Wizard of Oz" were made today,
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Da je "Čarobnjak iz Oza" napravljen u današnje vrijeme,
01:34
the wizard would say, "Dorothy, you are the savior of Oz
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čarobnjak bi rekao "Dorothy, ti si spasiteljica Oza
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that the prophecy foretold.
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koju je najavilo proročanstvo.
01:40
Use your magic slippers to defeat
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Upotrijebi svoje čarobne cipele kako bi porazila
01:42
the computer-generated armies of the Wicked Witch."
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kompjuterski generiranu vojsku Zle vještice."
01:45
But that's not how it happens.
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No, to se ne događa.
01:47
Another thing that's really unique about "The Wizard of Oz"
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Druga posebnost "Čarobnjaka iz Oza"
za mene jest
za mene jest
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to me is that all of the most heroic
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ta što su svi najhrabriji
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and wise and even villainous characters
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i najmudriji, pa čak i najnegativniji likovi
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are female.
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ženski.
02:00
Now I started to notice this
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Počeo sam to primjećivati
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when I actually showed "Star Wars" to my daughter,
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kada sam kćeri pokazao "Zvjezdane ratove",
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which was years later, and the situation was different.
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što je bilo dosta godina kasnije i situacija je bila posve drukčija.
02:07
At that point I also had a son.
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U tom periodu sam imao i sina.
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He was only three at the time.
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Tada je imao samo tri godine.
02:12
He was not invited to the screening. He was too young for that.
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Nije smio gledati film. Bio je premalen za to.
02:16
But he was the second child,
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No, kako je bio drugo dijete,
02:18
and the level of supervision had plummeted. (Laughter)
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razina nadzora brzo je pala. (Smijeh)
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So he wandered in,
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I tako je zalutao u sobu
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and it imprinted on him
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i film se utisnuo u njega
02:29
like a mommy duck does to its duckling,
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kao što majka patka obilježuje svoje pače.
02:35
and I don't think he understands what's going on,
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Mislim da ne razumije što se događa,
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but he is sure soaking in it.
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no on zasigurno upija sve to.
02:42
And I wonder what he's soaking in.
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Pitam se što to točno on upija.
02:43
Is he picking up on the themes of courage
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Usvaja li on teme hrabrosti,
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and perseverance and loyalty?
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ustrajnosti i odanosti?
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Is he picking up on the fact that Luke
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Usvaja li on činjenicu da se Luke
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joins an army to overthrow the government?
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priključuje vojsci kako bi svrgnuo vladu?
02:56
Is he picking up on the fact that
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Usvaja li on činjenicu da
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there are only boys in the universe
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u svemiru postoje samo momci,
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except for Aunt Beru, and of course this princess,
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osim tete Beru i kraljevne,
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who's really cool, but who kind of waits around through most of the movie
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koja je odlična, ali većinu filma provede čekajući
03:08
so that she can award the hero with a medal and a wink
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kako bi junaka nagradila medaljom i migom,
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to thank him for saving the universe, which he does
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ne bi li mu zahvalila što je spasio svemir,
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by the magic that he was born with?
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što je on i učinio uz pomoć
magije s kojom je bio rođen?
magije s kojom je bio rođen?
03:17
Compare this to 1939 with "The Wizard of Oz."
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Usporedite to s 1939. godinom i "Čarobnjakom iz Oza".
03:20
How does Dorothy win her movie?
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Kako je Dorothy pobijedila u svom filmu?
03:23
By making friends with everybody
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Tako što se sprijateljila sa svima
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and being a leader.
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i postala vođa.
03:28
That's kind of the world I'd rather raise my kids in --
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U takvom svijetu bih radije odgajao svoju djecu.
03:31
Oz, right? -- and not the world of dudes fighting,
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Ozu, a ne u svijetu u kojem se momci biju
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which is where we kind of have to be.
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i u kojem moramo živjeti.
03:37
Why is there so much Force -- capital F, Force --
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Zašto ima toliko mnogo Sile --veliko S, Sile --
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in the movies we have for our kids,
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u filmovima za našu djecu,
03:42
and so little yellow brick road?
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a toliko malo žute ciglane ceste?
03:45
There is a lot of great writing about the impact
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Puno je dobrih radova o tome kako nasilni filmovi
03:48
that the boy-violent movie has on girls,
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s muškim likovima utječu na djevojčice.
03:52
and you should do that reading. It's very good.
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Trebali biste ih pročitati. Veoma su dobri.
03:55
I haven't read as much on how boys are picking up on this vibe.
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Nisam toliko puno čitao o tome kako to utječe na dječake.
04:00
I know from my own experience that
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Iz iskustva znam da
04:02
Princess Leia did not provide the adequate context
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kraljevna Leia nije pružila odgovarajući primjer
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that I could have used in navigating the adult world
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koji bih bio mogao korisiti u pojašnjavanju svijeta odraslih
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that is co-ed. (Laughter)
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u kojem su oba spola jednako prisutna. (Smijeh)
04:17
I think there was a first-kiss moment
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Čini mi se da sam u trenu kada se odvijao
prvi poljubac u filmu
prvi poljubac u filmu
04:20
when I really expected the credits to start rolling
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očekivao da će započeti odjavna špica
04:23
because that's the end of the movie, right?
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jer je poljubac označavao kraj filma, zar ne?
04:26
I finished my quest, I got the girl.
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"Završio sam potragu. Osvojio djevojku."
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Why are you still standing there?
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"Zašto još stojite tamo?"
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I don't know what I'm supposed to do.
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"Ne znam što bih trebao učiniti."
04:33
The movies are very, very focused on defeating the villain
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Ovi su filmovi snažno usmjereni
na pobjeđivanje negativaca
na pobjeđivanje negativaca
04:36
and getting your reward, and there's not a lot of room
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i osvajanje nagrade. Nema mnogo prostora
04:39
for other relationships and other journeys.
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za druge vrste odnosa i putovanja.
04:42
It's almost as though if you're a boy,
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Gotovo da govore da su momci
04:44
you are a dopey animal,
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blesave životinje,
04:46
and if you are a girl, you should bring your warrior costume.
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a da bi djevojke trebale sa sobom nositi ratnički kostim.
04:50
There are plenty of exceptions,
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Postoji mnogo izuzetaka,
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and I will defend the Disney princesses in front of any you.
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a ja ću braniti disneyjeve kraljevne pred bilo kime.
04:58
But they do send a message to boys,
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Ali, one ipak šalju poruku dječacima
05:01
that they are not, the boys are not really the target audience.
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da oni zapravo nisu ciljana publika.
05:03
They are doing a phenomenal job of teaching girls
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Izvanredno podučavaju djevojčice
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how to defend against the patriarchy,
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kako se boriti protiv patrijarhata,
05:09
but they are not necessarily showing boys
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ali ne pokazuju nužno i dječacima
05:11
how they're supposed to defend against the patriarchy.
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kako bi se oni trebali obraniti od nje.
05:14
There's no models for them.
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Za njih nema uzora.
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And we also have some terrific women
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Postoje sjajne žene koje
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who are writing new stories for our kids,
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pišu nove priče za našu djecu.
05:22
and as three-dimensional and delightful as Hermione and Katniss are,
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No, koliko god da su Hermiona i Katniss
slojevite i divne,
slojevite i divne,
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these are still war movies.
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ipak su likovi ratnih filmova.
05:28
And, of course, the most successful studio of all time
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I, naravno, najuspješniji filmski studio
svih vremena
svih vremena
05:33
continues to crank out classic after classic,
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i dalje izbacuje klasik za klasikom.
05:37
every single one of them about
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Svaki od njih je o
05:39
the journey of a boy, or a man,
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putovanju dječaka, ili muškarca, ili
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or two men who are friends, or a man and his son,
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dva prijatelja, ili oca i sina, ili
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or two men who are raising a little girl.
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dva muškarca koji odgajaju djevojčicu.
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Until, as many of you are thinking, this year,
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Sve do ove godine
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when they finally came out with "Brave."
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kada je napokon izašao film "Merida Hrabra".
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I recommend it to all of you. It's on demand now.
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Preporučam ga svima. Dostupan je i kao
video on demand (na zahtjev).
video on demand (na zahtjev).
06:00
Do you remember what the critics said when "Brave" came out?
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Sjećate li se što su rekli kritičari kad je "Merida Hrabra" izišla?
06:04
"Aw, I can't believe Pixar made a princess movie."
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"Ne možemo vjerovati da je Pixar napravio
film s kraljevnom."
film s kraljevnom."
06:08
It's very good. Don't let that stop you.
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Nemojte da vas to obeshrabri. Film je jako dobar.
06:10
Now, almost none of these movies pass the Bechdel Test.
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Gotovo nijedan od ovih filmova
nije prošao Bechdel test.
nije prošao Bechdel test.
06:14
I don't know if you've heard of this.
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Ne znam jeste li čuli za to.
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It has not yet caught on and caught fire,
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Još nije postalo jako poznato i popularno,
06:18
but maybe today we will start a movement.
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no možda danas započnemo pokret.
06:20
Alison Bechdel is a comic book artist,
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Allison Bechdel je crtačica stripova.
06:23
and back in the mid-'80s, she recorded this conversation
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Sredinom 1980-ih snimila je razgovor
06:28
she'd had with a friend about assessing the movies that they saw.
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s prijateljicom o ocjenjivanju filmova koje su pogledale.
06:32
And it's very simple. There's just three questions you should ask:
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Jako je jednostavan. Treba postaviti tri pitanja.
06:35
Is there more than one character in the movie
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Postoji li u filmu više od jednog lika
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that is female who has lines?
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koji je ženski i ima tekst.
06:41
So try to meet that bar.
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Pokušajte zadovoljiti taj kriterij.
06:43
And do these women talk to each other at any point in the movie?
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Razgovaraju li te žene međusobno tijekom filma?
06:49
And is their conversation about something other than
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Je li tema njihova razgovora nešto drugo osim
06:53
the guy that they both like? (Laughter)
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tipa koji im se objema sviđa. (Smijeh)
06:56
Right? Thank you. (Applause)
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Zar ne? Hvala. (Pljesak)
07:00
Thank you very much.
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Puno vam hvala.
07:02
Two women who exist and talk to each other about stuff.
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Dvije žene koje postoje i razgovaraju
o drugim temama.
o drugim temama.
07:10
It does happen. I've seen it,
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To se događa. Uvjerio sam se.
07:15
and yet I very rarely see it in the movies
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Ipak, vrlo rijetko to viđam u filmovima
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that we know and love.
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koje znamo i volimo.
07:19
In fact, this week I went to see
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Ovaj tjedan pogledao sam
07:21
a very high-quality movie, "Argo."
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vrlo kvalitetan film, "Argo".
07:25
Right? Oscar buzz, doing great at the box office,
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Kandidat za Oscara, odlično prolazi u kinima,
07:28
a consensus idea of what a quality Hollywood film is.
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primjer kvalitetnog Hollywoodskog filma.
07:33
It pretty much flunks the Bechdel test.
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Ali ne prolazi Bechdel test.
07:35
And I don't think it should, because a lot of the movie,
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Ne bi ni trebao, jer velik dio filma -
07:39
I don't know if you've seen it, but a lot of the movie
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ne znam jeste li ga pogledali - ali, veliki dio filma
07:41
takes place in this embassy where men and women
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se odvija u veleposlanstvu gdje se muškarci i žene
07:44
are hiding out during the hostage crisis.
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skrivaju tijekom talačke krize.
07:47
We've got quite a few scenes of the men
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Jako je puno prizora u kojima muškarci
07:49
having deep, angst-ridden conversations in this hideout,
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vode duboke, tjeskobne razgovore u tom skrovištu,
07:53
and the great moment for one of the actresses is
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a veliki trenutak za jednu od glumica je
07:57
to peek through the door and say, "Are you coming to bed, honey?"
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kada proviri iza vrata i upita "Dolaziš li u krevet, dušo?"
08:02
That's Hollywood for you.
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To vam je Hollywood.
08:04
So let's look at the numbers.
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Pogledajmo brojke.
08:06
2011, of the 100 most popular movies,
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2011. godine, od 100 najpopularnijih filmova,
08:10
how many of them do you think actually have female protagonists?
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koliko mislite da je imalo glavne ženske likove?
08:14
Eleven. It's not bad.
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Jedanaest. Nije loše.
08:18
It's not as many percent as the number of women
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Nije jednako procentu žena koje smo
08:21
we've just elected to Congress, so that's good.
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upravo izabrali za Kongres.
08:24
But there is a number that is greater than this
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No, postoji jedan veći broj
08:27
that's going to bring this room down.
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koji će vas zaprepastiti.
08:30
Last year, The New York Times published a study
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Prošle godine, New York Times objavio je studiju
08:34
that the government had done.
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koju je provela vlada.
08:35
Here's what it said.
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Evo što je pisalo.
08:37
One out of five women in America
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Jedna od pet žena u Americi
08:41
say that they have been sexually assaulted some time in their life.
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kaže da je tijekom života bila
seksualno napastovana.
seksualno napastovana.
08:47
Now, I don't think that's the fault of popular entertainment.
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Ne smatram da je za to kriva popularna zabava i
08:51
I don't think kids' movies have anything to do with that.
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da dječji filmovi imaju ikakve veze s time.
08:55
I don't even think that
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Čak ne smatram da su
08:57
music videos or pornography are really directly related to that,
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glazbeni spotovi i pornografija izravno povezani s time.
09:01
but something is going wrong,
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No, nešto ne štima
09:03
and when I hear that statistic,
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i kada čujem te brojke,
09:06
one of the things I think of is
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jedna od stvari na koje pomislim jest
09:09
that's a lot of sexual assailants.
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da ima mnogo seksualnih napadača.
09:13
Who are these guys? What are they learning?
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Tko su ti tipovi? Što to oni uče?
09:16
What are they failing to learn?
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Što to ne uspijevaju naučiti?
09:18
Are they absorbing the story that
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Usvajaju li oni priču kako je
09:20
a male hero's job is to defeat the villain with violence
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zadatak muškog junaka poraziti negativca nasiljem,
09:25
and then collect the reward, which is a woman
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a potom pokupiti nagradu, koja je žena
09:27
who has no friends and doesn't speak?
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bez prijatelja i koja ne govori?
09:32
Are we soaking up that story?
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Upijamo li mi tu priču?
09:38
You know,
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Znate,
09:40
as a parent with the privilege
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kao roditelj koji ima povlasticu
09:43
of raising a daughter
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odgajati kćer,
09:45
like all of you who are doing the same thing,
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kao i svi vi koji to radite,
09:48
we find this world and this statistic very alarming
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smatramo ovaj svijet i ove brojke vrlo uznemirujućima
09:52
and we want to prepare them.
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i želimo ih pripremiti.
09:53
We have tools at our disposal like "girl power,"
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Na raspolaganju su nam alati poput "girl power",
09:57
and we hope that that will help,
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i nadamo se da će nam to pomoći.
10:00
but I gotta wonder, is girl power going to protect them
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No moram se upitati, hoće li ih
"girl power" zaštititi
"girl power" zaštititi
10:04
if, at the same time, actively or passively,
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ako, u isto vrijeme, aktivno ili pasivno
10:06
we are training our sons to maintain their boy power?
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učimo svoje sinove da očuvaju svoj "boy power"?
10:11
I mean, I think the Netflix queue
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Mislim da je Netflix queue
10:15
is one way that we can do something very important,
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jedan od načina da postignemo nešto vrlo važno,
10:18
and I'm talking mainly to the dads here.
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a ovdje se posebno obraćam očevima.
10:21
I think we have got to show our sons
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Mislim da trebamo pokazati sinovima
10:24
a new definition of manhood.
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novu definiciju muškosti.
10:26
The definition of manhood is already turning upside down.
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Ta se definicija već izvrće naglavačke.
10:30
You've read about how the new economy
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Čitali ste kako novi gospodarski sustav
10:32
is changing the roles of caregiver and wage earner.
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mijenja uloge odgajatelja i privređivača.
10:36
They're throwing it up in the air.
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Sve se to izvrće.
10:37
So our sons are going to have to find some way
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Naći će sinovi stoga trebati pronaći način
10:40
of adapting to this, some new relationship with each other,
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da se tome prilagode, neku novu vezu među sobom.
10:43
and I think we really have to show them, and model for them,
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Mislim da je na nama da im pokažemo,
da im budemo uzor,
da im budemo uzor,
10:47
how a real man
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kako je pravi muškarac
10:51
is someone who trusts his sisters
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netko tko vjeruje svojim sestrama,
10:54
and respects them, and wants to be on their team,
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poštuje ih, želi biti na njihovoj strani
10:58
and stands up against the real bad guys,
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i koji će se usprotiviti pravim negativcima,
11:01
who are the men who want to abuse the women.
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a to su muškarci koji žele zlostavljati žene.
11:05
And I think our job in the Netflix queue
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Naš posao u Netflix queueu
11:08
is to look out for those movies that pass the Bechdel Test,
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jest da potražimo filmove koji prolaze Bechdel test,
11:12
if we can find them, and to seek out the heroines
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ako ih možemo pronaći, i da potražimo junakinje
11:16
who are there,
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koje postoje,
11:18
who show real courage, who bring people together,
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koje pokazuju istinsku hrabrost i spajaju ljude
11:22
and to nudge our sons to identify with those heroines
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te da potaknemo svoje sinove da se
poistovjete s tim junakinjama
poistovjete s tim junakinjama
11:25
and to say, "I want to be on their team,"
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i da kažu "Želim biti na njihovoj strani",
11:29
because they're going to be on their team.
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jer će one biti na njihovoj strani.
11:33
When I asked my daughter who her favorite character was in "Star Wars,"
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Kada sam pitao kćer tko joj je najdraži lik iz
"Zvjezdanih ratova",
"Zvjezdanih ratova",
11:37
do you know what she said?
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znate li što mi je rekla?
11:39
Obi-Wan.
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Obi-Wan.
11:41
Obi-Wan Kenobi and Glinda.
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Obi-Wan Kenobi i Glinda.
11:45
What do these two have in common?
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Što ovo dvoje imaju zajedničko?
11:49
Maybe it's not just the sparkly dress.
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Možda ne samo šljokičastu haljinu.
11:51
I think these people are experts.
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Njih dvoje su stručnjaci.
11:54
I think these are the two people in the movie
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To je dvoje ljudi
11:56
who know more than anybody else,
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koji znaju više od ikoga drugog u filmu
11:57
and they love sharing their knowledge with other people
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i vole dijeliti svoje znanje s drugima
12:01
to help them reach their potential.
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kako bi im pomogli da dosegnu svoj potencijal.
12:04
Now, they are leaders.
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Oni su vođe.
12:06
I like that kind of quest for my daughter,
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Sviđa mi se takva zadaća za moju kćer,
12:08
and I like that kind of quest for my son.
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a i za mog sina.
12:10
I want more quests like that.
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Volio bih da je više takvih zadaća.
12:12
I want fewer quests where my son is told,
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Želio bio da je manje onih zadaća
koje govore mom sinu
koje govore mom sinu
12:15
"Go out and fight it alone,"
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"Idi i bori se sam",
12:17
and more quests where he sees that it's his job to join a team,
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a više onih gdje vidi da je njegov zadatak
pridružiti se ekipi,
pridružiti se ekipi,
12:22
maybe a team led by women,
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koju možda predvode žene,
12:26
to help other people become better
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kako bi pomogao drugima da postanu i
12:32
and be better people,
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budu bolji ljudi,
12:34
like the Wizard of Oz.
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poput Čarobnjaka iz Oza.
12:37
Thank you.
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Hvala.
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Colin Stokes - Proud dadThe director of communications for the non-profit Citizen Schools, Colin Stokes thinks deeply about the media he shares with his two young children.
Why you should listen
Colin Stokes divides his time between parenting and building the brand of Citizen Schools, a non-profit that reimagines the school day for middle school students in low-income communities in eight states. As Managing Director of Brand & Communications, Colin helps people within the organization find the ideas, words and stories that will connect with more and more people. He believes that understanding the human mind is a force that can be used for good and seeks to take advantage of our innate and learned tendencies to bring out the best in each other and our culture.
Before starting a family, Colin was an actor and graphic designer in New York City. He starred in the long-running off-Broadway musical I Love You, You’re Perfect, Now Change, as well is in several musicals and Shakespeare stagings. But he jokes that he seems to have achieved more renown (and considerably more revenue) for his brief appearances on two Law & Order episodes.
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