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Peter Molyneux: Meet Milo, the virtual boy
Peter Molyneux demonstrira Miloa, virtualnog dječaka
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Peter Molyneux demonstrira Miloa, dugo očekivanu video igru za Microsoftov Kinect kontroler. Perceptivan i podložan utjecajima poput pravog jedanaestogodišnjeg dječaka, virtualni dječak gleda, sluša i uči -- prepoznavajući i odgovarajući vam.
Peter Molyneux - Game changer
The head of Microsoft's European games division, Peter Molyneux is building an astonishing new "virtual friend" who interacts with you. Full bio
The head of Microsoft's European games division, Peter Molyneux is building an astonishing new "virtual friend" who interacts with you. Full bio
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When I saw a piece of technology called Kinect --
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Kada sam vidio tehnologiju koja se zove Kinect --
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it was called Natal -- I was inspired,
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zvala se Natal -- bio sam inspiriran,
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and I thought for a moment,
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i pomislio sam na trenutak,
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maybe it's possible
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možda je moguće
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to address that one problem of storytelling,
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riješiti onaj problem pričanja priča,
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to create a character
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kreirati lik
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which seemed alive,
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koji se čini živ,
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which noticed me,
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koji me primjećuje,
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that could look me in the eyes
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koji bi me mogao pogledati u oči
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and feel real,
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i činiti se stvarnim,
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and sculpt a story about our relationship.
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i stvoriti priču o našem odnosu.
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And so a year ago,
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I tako prije godinu dana,
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I showed this off
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prikazao sam ovo
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at a computer show called E3.
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na računalnom showu koji se zove E3.
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And this was a piece of technology
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I ovo je bio komad tehnologije
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with someone called Claire interacting with this boy.
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s nekim tko se zove Claire u interakciji s ovim dječakom.
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And there was a huge row online
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I nastala je velika svađa na Internetu
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about, "Hey, this can't be real."
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o tome, "Hej, ovo ne može biti stvarno."
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And so I waited till now
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I tako, čekao sam do sada
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to have an actual demo
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kako bih imao stvarni demo
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of the real tech.
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prave tehnologije.
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Now, this tech incorporates
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Ova tehnologija uključuje
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three big elements.
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tri velika elementa.
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The first is a Kinect camera,
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Prvi je Kinect kamera,
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which will be out in November,
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koja će izaći u studenom,
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some incredible AI
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nešto nevjerojatne umjetne inteligencije
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that was hidden in the dusty vaults,
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koja je bila skrivena u prašnim riznicama,
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collecting dust
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skupljajući prašinu
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in Microsoft,
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u Microsoftu,
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plus our quite crude
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plus naši poprilično grubi
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attempts at AI
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pokušaji u stvaranju umjetne inteligencije
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at a company called Lionhead,
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u tvrtci Lionhead,
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mixing all those things together
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mješajući sve te stvari zajedno
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just to get to this one simple idea:
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samo kako bismo došli do ove jedne jednostavne ideje:
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to create a real, living
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stvoriti stvarno, živo
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being in a computer.
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biće u računalu.
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Now, I'll be honest with you
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Sada, bit ću iskren s vama
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and say that most of it
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i reći da je većina toga
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is just a trick,
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zapravo trik,
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but it's a trick that actually works.
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ali je to trik koji zaista radi.
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So why don't we go over and have
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Pa krenimo i
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a look at the demo now.
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pogledajmo demo.
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This is Dimitri.
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Ovo je Dimitri.
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Dimitri, just waggle your arm around.
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Dimitri, samo prodrmaj rukom.
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Now, you notice he's sitting.
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Sada, možete primjetiti da sjedi.
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There are no controllers,
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Nema kontrolera,
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no keyboards,
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nema tipkovnica,
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or mice,
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ili miša,
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or joysticks, or joypads.
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ili kontrolera ili joysticka.
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He is just going to use
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On će samo koristiti
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his hand, his body and his voice,
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svoju ruku, svoje tijelo i svoj glas,
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just like humans interact with their hands, body and voice.
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baš kako se ljudi koriste rukama, tijelom i glasom za interakciju.
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So let's move forward.
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Pa krenimo naprijed.
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You're going to meet Milo for the first time.
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Upoznat ćete Miloa po prvi put.
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We had to give him a problem
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Morali smo mu dati problem
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because when we first created Milo,
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jer kad smo prvi put kreirali Miloa,
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we realized that he came across as a little bit of a brat,
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shvatili smo kako je ostavljao dojam kao da je derište,
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to be honest with you.
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biti ću iskren s vama.
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He was quite a know-it-all,
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Bio je poprilična sveznalica,
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and he wanted to kind of make you laugh.
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i želio vas je nasmijati na neki način.
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So the problem we introduced to him was this:
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Problem koji smo uveli je bio ovaj:
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he's just moved house.
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upravo se preselio.
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He's moved from London
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Preselio se iz Londona
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to New England, over in America.
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u Novu Englesku, u Americi.
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His parents are too busy
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Njegovi roditelji su prezaposleni
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to listen to his problems,
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kako bi slušali njegove probleme,
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and that's when he starts almost conjuring you up.
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i onda vas počinje gotovo prizivati.
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So here he is
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Evo ga
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walking through the grass.
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dok šeta kroz travu.
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And you're able to interact with his world.
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I možete biti u interakciji s njegovim svijetom.
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The cool thing is, what we're doing
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Zanimljiva stvar je, da to što radimo
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is we're changing the mind
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je da mjenjamo um
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of Milo constantly.
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Miloa stalno.
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That means no two people's Milos
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To znači kako Milo bilo kojih dvoje ljudi
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can be the same.
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ne može biti isti.
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You're actually sculpting a human being here.
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Ovdje zapravo gradite ljudsko biće.
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So, he's discovering the garden.
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Dakle, on otkriva vrt.
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You're helping him discover the garden
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Pomažete mu istražiti vrt
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by just pointing out these snails.
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pokazujući mu samo ove puževe.
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Very simple at the start.
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Vrlo jednostavno u početku.
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By the way, if you are a boy, it's snails;
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Usput, ako ste dječak, puževi su;
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if you're a girl, it's butterflies
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ako ste djevojčica, to su leptiri
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because what we found was that girls hate snails.
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zbog toga što smo utvrdili da djevojčice mrze puževe.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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So remember, this is the first time you've met him,
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Dakle upamtite, ovo je prvi put da ste ga upoznali,
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and we really want to draw you in and make you more curious.
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i želimo vas privući i učiniti vas znatiželjnijima.
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His face, by the way,
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Njegovo lice, usput,
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is fully AI-driven.
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je u potpunosti pokretano umjetnom inteligencijom.
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We have complete control over his blush responses,
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Imamo potpunu kontrolu nad njegovim reakcije crvenjenja,
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the diameter of his nostrils
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raspon njegovih nosnica
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to denote stress.
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koji će prikazati stres.
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We actually do something called body matching.
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Radimo nešto što se zove usklađivanje tijela.
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If you're leaning forward,
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Ako se naginjete naprijed,
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he will try and slightly change
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on će pokušati i neznatno promijeniti
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the neuro-linguistic nature of his face,
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neuro-lingvističku prirodu svog lica,
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because we went out with this strong idea:
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jer krenuli smo s ovom snažnom idejom:
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how can we make you believe that something's real?
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kako vas možemo uvjeriti da je nešto stvarno?
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Now we've used the hand.
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Sad smo uporabili ruku.
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The other thing to use is your body.
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Druga stvar koja se koristi je vaše tijelo.
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Why not just, instead of pushing left and right
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Zašto ne biste, umjesto da gurate lijevo i desno
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with a mouse or with a joypad,
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s mišem i ili kontrolerom,
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why not use your body just to lean on the chair --
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zašto ne biste koristili tijelo samo kako biiste se nagnuli u stolcu --
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again, relaxed?
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ponovno, opušteni?
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You can lean back,
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Možete se nagnuti natrag,
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but the camera will change its perspective
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ali kamera će promijeniti svoju perspektivu
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depending on which way you're looking.
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ovisno o tome na koju stranu gledate.
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So Dimitri's now going to use --
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Dimitri će sada upotrijebiti --
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he's used his hand; he's used his body.
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upotrijebio je ruku, upotrijebio je tijelo.
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He's now going to use the other thing which is essential,
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Sada će koristiti drugu stvar koja je jako važna,
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and that's his voice.
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a to je njegov glas.
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Now, the thing about voice is,
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Sad, stvar kod glasa je,
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our experience with voice recognition
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naše iskustvo s prepoznavanjem glasa
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is pretty awful, isn't it?
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je poprilično loše, nije li?
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It never works.
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Nikad ne radi.
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You order an airline ticket; you end up in Timbuktu.
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Naručite kartu za avion, završite u Timbuktuu.
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So we've tackled that problem,
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Uhvatili smo se u koštac s tim problemom,
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and we've come up with a solution, which we'll see in a second.
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i pronašli smo rješenje, koje ćemo vidjeti za trenutak.
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Milo: I could just squish it.
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Milo: Mogao bih samo zdrobiti to.
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Peter Molyneux: What are you going to do, Dimitri?
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Peter Molyneux: Što ćeš učiniti Dimitri?
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Female Voice: Squashing a snail may not seem important,
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Ženski glas: Zgnječiti puža možda se čini nevažnim,
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but remember, even this choice
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ali upamti, čak i ovaj izbor
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will affect how Milo develops.
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će utjecati na to kako će se Milo razvijati.
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Do you want Milo to squash it?
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Želiš li da ga Milo zgnječi?
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When you see the microphone,
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Kad vidite mikrofon,
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say ... (PM: Squash.) ... yes to decide.
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recite... (PM: Zgnječi.).... da kako biste odlučili.
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Dimitri: Go on, Milo. Squash it.
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Dimitri: Hajde Milo. Zgnječi ga.
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PM: No. That's the wrong thing to do.
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PM: Ne. To bi bila pogrešna stvar za učiniti.
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Now look at his response.
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Pogledajte sada njegov odgovor.
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He said, "Go on, Milo. Squash it."
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Rekao je, "Hajde Milo. Zgnječi ga."
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What we're using there is,
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Ono što ovdje koristimo,
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we're using something, a piece of technology called Tellme.
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koristimo nešto, komad tehnologijie koji se zove Tellme (Recimi)
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It's a company that Microsoft acquired some years ago.
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To je poduzeće koje je Microsoft kupio prije nekoliko godina.
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We've got a database of words which we recognize.
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Imamo bazu riječi koje prepoznajemo.
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We pick those words out.
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Izabiremo te riječi.
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We also reference that
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Također povezujemo to
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with the tonation database
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s bazom intonacija
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that we build up of Dimitri's voice,
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koju smo stvorili oko Dimitrijevog glasa,
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or the user's voice.
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ili korisnikovog glasa.
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Now we need to have a bit more engagement,
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Sada se moramo još malo uključiti,
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and again, what we can do
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i ponovno, ono što možemo učiniti
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is we can look at the body.
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je možemo pogledati tijelo.
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And we'll do that in a second.
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I to ćemo učiniti za trenutak.
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Milo: I wonder how deep it is.
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Milo: Zanima me koliko je duboko.
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Deep.
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Duboko.
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PM: Okay. So what we're going to do now
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PM; U redu. Evo što ćemo sada napraviti:
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is teach Milo to skim stones.
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naučit ćemo Miloa da baca kamenje.
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We're actually teaching him.
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Zapravo ga učimo.
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It's very, very interesting
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To je vrlo, vrlo zanimljivo
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that men, more than women,
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da muškarci, više nego žene,
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tend to be more competitive here.
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žele biti ovdje najbolji.
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They're fine with teaching Milo for the first few throws,
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Sve je u redu dok ga uče prvih par bacanja,
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but then they want to beat Milo,
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ali žele pobijediti Miloa,
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where women,
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gdje žene,
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they're more nurturing about this.
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one su brižnije po ovom pitanju.
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Okay, this is skimming stones.
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U redu, ovo je bacanje kamenčića.
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How do you skim stones?
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Kako bacaš kamen?
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You stand up,
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Ustaneš,
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and you skim the stone.
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i baciš kamen.
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It's that simple.
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Tako je jednostavno.
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Just recognizing your body,
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Samo prepoznajući svoje tijelo,
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recognizing the body's motions, the tech,
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prepoznajući pokrete tijela, tehniku,
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understanding that you've gone
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shvaćajući da ste otišli
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from sitting down to standing up.
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od sjedenja u stajanje.
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Again, all of this is done
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Ponovno, sve ovo čini se
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in the way us humans do things,
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na način na koji mi ljudi činimo stvari,
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and that's crucially important
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i to je od krucijalne važnosti
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if we want Milo to appear real.
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ako želimo da Milo izgleda stvarno.
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Female Voice: See if you can inspire him to do any better.
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Ženski glas: Pokušajte ga inspirirati da napravi bolje.
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Try hitting the boat.
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Pokušajte pogoditi čamac.
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Milo: Ahhh. So close.
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Milo: Ahhh, tako blizu.
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PM: That's Dimitri at his most competitive.
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PM: To je Dimitri kada se želi natjecati.
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Now beaten an 11-year-old child. Well done.
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Sada je pobijedio 11-godišnje dijete. Dobro napravljeno.
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Milo: Okay.
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Milo: U redu.
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PM: So, Milo's being called back in by his parents,
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PM: Dakle, Miloa zovu roditelji da uđe,
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giving us time to be alone
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dajući nam vrijeme koje ćemo provesti sami
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and to help him out.
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i pomoći mu.
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Basically -- the bit that we missed at the start --
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U osnovi -- dio koji smo promašili na početku --
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his parents had asked him to clean up his room.
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njegovi roditelji tražili su da očisti sobu.
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And we're going to help him with this now.
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I mi ćemo mu s tim pomoći sada.
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But this is going to be an introduction,
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Ali ovo će biti uvod,
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and this is all about the deep psychology that we're trying to use.
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i radi se o dubokoj psihologiji koju pokušavamo koristiti.
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We're trying to introduce you
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Pokušavamo vas upoznati
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to what I believe is the most wonderful part,
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s onim za što ja vjerujem da je najljepši dio,
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you being able to talk
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vi ste u mogućnosti razgovarati
08:08
in your natural voice to Milo.
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s vlastitim glasom s Miloom.
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Now, to do that, we needed a set up,
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Sada, kako bi ste to mogli raditi, morali smo nešto napraviti,
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like a magician's trick.
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kao mađioničarski trik.
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And what we did was,
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I ono što smo učinili je,
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we needed to give Milo this big problem.
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morali smo Milou dati veliki problem.
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So as Dimitri
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Dok Dimitri
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starts tidying up,
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počinje čistiti,
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you can overhear a conversation
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možete čuti razgovor
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that Milo's having with his parents.
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koji Milo vodi sa svojim roditeljima.
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Milo's Mom: Oh, you've got gravy all over the floor. (Milo: I didn't mean to!)
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Milova mama: Oh, umak je po cijelom podu. (Milo: Nisam htio!)
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Milo's Mom: That carpet is brand new.
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Milova mama: Taj tepih je potpuno nov.
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PM: So he's just spilled
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PM: Upravo je prolio
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a plate of sausages on the floor,
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tanjur kobasica na pod,
08:36
on the brand-new carpet.
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na potpuno nov tepih.
08:38
We've all done it as parents; we've all done it as children.
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Svi smo mi to činili kao roditelji, svi smo mi to činili kao djeca.
08:41
Now's a chance for Dimitri
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Sada je šansa za Dimitrija
08:43
to kind of reassure and calm Milo down.
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da urazumi i smiri Miloa.
08:45
It's all been too much for him.
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Sve je to bilo previše za njega.
08:47
He's just moved house. He's got no friends.
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Sad se preselio. Nema prijatelja.
08:50
Now is the time
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Sad je vrijeme
08:52
when we open that portal
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kada moramo otvoriti taj portal
08:54
and allow you to talk to Milo.
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i dozvoliti vam da pričate s Miloom.
08:57
Female Voice: Why don't you try saying something encouraging
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Ženski glas: Zašto ne pokušate reći nešto ohrabrujuće
09:00
to cheer Milo up.
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kako biste razveselili Miloa.
09:02
Dimitri: Come on, Milo. You know what parents are like.
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Dimitri: Hajde Milo. Znaš kakvi su roditelji.
09:04
They're always getting stressed.
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Uvijek su uzrujani.
09:08
Milo: What do they want to come here for anyway?
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Milo: Zašto su uopće htjeli doći ovamo?
09:12
We don't know anyone.
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Ne poznajemo nikog.
09:15
Dimitri: Well, you've got a new school to go to.
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Dimitri: Pa, imaš novu školu u koju ideš.
09:17
You're going to meet loads of cool, new friends.
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Upoznat ćeš puno novih, zanimljivih prijatelja.
09:22
Milo: I just really miss my old house, that's all.
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Milo: Samo mi stvarno nedostaje moja stara kuća, to je sve.
09:28
Dimitri: Well, this is a pretty awesome house, Milo.
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Dimitri: Pa, ovo je poprilično super kuća, Milo.
09:30
You've got a cool garden to play in and a pond.
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Imaš vrt u kojem se možeš igrati i jezerce.
09:37
Milo: It was good skimming stones.
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Milo: Bilo je dobro bacati kamenje.
09:47
This looks nice.
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Ovo izgleda lijepo.
09:50
You cleaned up my room.
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Očistio si moju sobu.
09:52
Thanks.
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Hvala.
09:54
PM: So after three-quarters of an hour,
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PM: Nakon tri četvrt sata,
09:56
he recognizes you.
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on vas prepoznaje.
09:58
And I promise you, if you're sitting in front of this screen,
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I obećavam vam, ako sjedite ispred ovog ekrana,
10:01
that is a truly wonderful moment.
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to je stvarno divan trenutak.
10:04
And we're ready now
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I sad smo spremni
10:06
to tell a story about his childhood and his life,
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ispričati priču o njegovom djetinjstvu i životu,
10:08
and it goes on,
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i ide dalje,
10:10
and he has, you know, many adventures.
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i on ima, znate, puno pustolovina.
10:12
Some of those adventures are a little bit dark or on the darker side.
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Neke od ovih pustolovina su tamne, ili na tamnijoj strani.
10:15
Some of those adventures are wonderfully encouraging --
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Neke od ovih pustolovina su prekrasno ohrabrujuće --
10:17
he's got to go to school.
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mora ići u školu.
10:19
The cool thing is
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Dobra stvar je
10:21
that we're doing as well:
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da i mi idemo također:
10:23
as you interact with him,
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kroz interakciju s njim,
10:25
you're able to put things into his world; he recognizes objects.
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možete postaviti stvari u njegov svijet, on prepoznaje predmete.
10:28
His mind is based in a cloud.
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Njegov um je baziran u oblaku.
10:31
That means Milo's mind,
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To znači da Miloov um,
10:33
as millions of people use it,
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kako ga milijuni ljudi koriste,
10:35
will get smarter and cleverer.
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postaje pametniji i pronicljiviji.
10:37
He'll recognize more objects
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Prepoznavat će više predmeta
10:39
and thus understand more words.
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i tako razumjeti više riječi.
10:41
But for me,
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Ali za mene,
10:43
this is a wonderful opportunity
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ovo je divna prilika
10:45
where technology, at last, can be connected with,
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gdje se na tehnologiju, napokon, može povezati,
10:48
where I am no longer restrained
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gdje nisam ograničen
10:50
by the finger I hold in my hand --
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prstom kojeg držim u ruci --
10:52
as far as a computer game's concerned --
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koliko se to tiče kompjuterskih igara --
10:54
or by the blandness of not being noticed
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ili bezličnosti da te se ne primjeti
10:56
if you're watching a film or a book.
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ako gledaš film ili čitaš knjigu.
10:59
And I love those revolutions,
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I volim ove revolucije,
11:02
and I love the future that Milo brings.
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i volim budućnost koju Milo donosi.
11:04
Thank you very much indeed.
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Hvala vam zaista puno.
11:06
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Peter Molyneux - Game changerThe head of Microsoft's European games division, Peter Molyneux is building an astonishing new "virtual friend" who interacts with you.
Why you should listen
Game geeks have been buzzing about Project Natal for, seemingly, ever -- Microsoft's now-in-development gaming device that goes the Wii one better by allowing your whole body to become the joystick, using touchless, visual-recognition interface technology. What kind of game will be played on this immersive new equipment? Peter Molyneux is working on one that redefines the whole notion of "game" -- Milo.
Milo is a little boy (there's also to be a little girl, Kate) who quite simply acts like a little boy, learning your name, talking with you, going on walks around the lake. It's an immersive, slightly uncanny experience, as seen in the single year-old demo that's still blowing minds on YouTube. Molyneux himself is a game-industry legend who has created many titles. In 1997 he founded Lionhead Studios, makers of Fable, a role-playing game. Microsoft bought Lionhead in 2006, and will release the much-anticipated Fable III in the fall.
Peter Molyneux | Speaker | TED.com