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James Randi: Homeopathy, quackery and fraud
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Legendarni skeptik Džejms Rendi (James Randi) uzima smrtonosnu dozu homeopatskih tableta za spavanje na bini i pokreće vatrenu, osamnaestominutnu osudu iracionalnih verovanja. Postavlja izazov vidovnjacima širom sveta: Dokažite da je to što radite istinito, i daću vam milion dolara. (Još uvek nema dobitnika.)
James Randi - Skeptic and conjuror
Legendary skeptic James Randi has devoted his life to debunking frauds and investigating paranormal and pseudoscientific claims. Full bio
Legendary skeptic James Randi has devoted his life to debunking frauds and investigating paranormal and pseudoscientific claims. Full bio
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Good morning.
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Dobro jutro.
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Happy to see so many fine folks out here
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Drago mi je da vidim toliko finih ljudi ovde
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and so many smiling faces.
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i toliko nasmejanih lica.
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I have a very peculiar
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Ja imam veoma svojstvenu
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background, attitude and approach
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prošlost, stav i pristup
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to the real world
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stvarnom svetu
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because I am a conjurer.
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zato što sam opsenar.
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Now, I prefer that term over magician,
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Radije koristim taj termin nego ''mađioničar''
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because if I were a magician, that would mean
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jer, kada bih bio mađioničar, to bi značilo
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that I use spells and incantations
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da koristim čini i čarobne reči
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and weird gestures
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i čudne pokrete
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in order to accomplish real magic.
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kako bih postigao pravu magiju.
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No, I don't do that; I'm a conjurer,
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Ne, ja ne radim to; Ja sam opsenar,
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who is someone who pretends to be
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odnosno neko ko se pretvara da je
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a real magician. (Laughter)
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pravi mađioničar.
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Now, how do we go about that sort of thing?
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Dakle, kako to radimo?
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We depend on the fact
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Oslanjamo se na činjenicu
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that audiences, such as yourselves,
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da publika, kao što ste vi,
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will make assumptions.
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donosi pretpostavke.
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For example, when I walked up here
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Na primer, kada sam izašao ovde,
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and I took the microphone from the stand
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i uzeo mikrofon sa postolja
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and switched it on,
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i uključio ga,
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you assumed this was a microphone, which it is not.
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vi ste pretpostavili da je to mikrofon, a nije.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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As a matter of fact, this is something
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U stvari, ovo je nešto
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that about half of you, more than half of you will not be familiar with.
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sa čim otprilike polovina vas, više od polovine vas nije upoznato.
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It's a beard trimmer, you see?
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Ovo je trimer za bradu, vidite.
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And it makes a very bad microphone;
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I vrlo je loš mikrofon
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I've tried it many times. (Laughter)
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Isprobao sam ga mnogo puta.
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The other assumption that you made --
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Druga pretpostavka koju ste doneli --
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and this little lesson is to show you
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a ova mala lekcija služi da vam pokaže
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that you will make assumptions.
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da ćete donositi pretpostavke --
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Not only that you can, but that you will
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ne samo da možete, već da i hoćete --
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when they are properly suggested to you.
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kada vam se nametnu na pravi način.
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You believe I'm looking at you.
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Vi verujete da ja gledam u vas.
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Wrong. I'm not looking at you. I can't see you.
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Pogrešno. Ne gledam u vas. Ne mogu da vas vidim.
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I know you're out there, they told me backstage, it's a full house and such.
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Znam da ste tu, rekli su mi iza bine, sala je puna i tako to.
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I know you're there because I can hear you,
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Znam da ste tu jer mogu da vas čujem,
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but I can't see you because I normally wear glasses.
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ali ne mogu da vas vidim jer obično nosim naočare.
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These are not glasses, these are empty frames. (Laughter)
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Ovo nisu naočare ovo su prazni okviri,
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Quite empty frames.
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sasvim prazni okviri.
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Now why would a grown man appear before you
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Dakle, zašto bi odrastao čovek izašao pred vas
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wearing empty frames on his face?
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noseći prazne okvire na licu?
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To fool you, ladies and gentlemen,
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Da vas prevari, dame i gospodo,
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to deceive you, to show that you, too,
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da vas obmane, da vam pokaže da ćete i vi
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can make assumptions.
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donositi pretpostavke.
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Don't you ever forget that.
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Nemojte to nikada zaboraviti.
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Now, I have to do something -- first of all, switch to real glasses
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Sada, moram da uradim nešto, kao prvo, da uzmem prave naočare,
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so I can actually see you,
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da bih zapravo mogao da vas vidim,
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which would probably be a convenience. I don't know.
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što će mi verovatno biti olakšavajuća okolnost. Ne znam.
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I haven't had a good look. Well, it's not that great a convenience.
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Nisam ni dobro pogledao. Pa, i nije naročito olakšavajuća.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
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I have to do something now, which seems
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Sada moram da uradim nešto, što je možda
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a little bit strange for a magician.
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pomalo neobično za mađioničara.
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But I'm going to take some medication.
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Ali uzeću neke lekove.
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This is a full bottle of
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Ovo je puna bočica
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Calms Forte.
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"Kalms Fortea".
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I'll explain that in just a moment.
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Objasniću to za trenutak.
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Ignore the instructions,
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Ignorišite uputstva.
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that's what the government has to put in there
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To je ono što vlada mora da stavi unutra
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to confuse you, I'm sure.
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da vas zbuni, siguran sam.
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I will take enough of these. Mm.
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Uzeću dosta ovih.
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Indeed, the whole container.
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U stvari, celu bočicu.
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Thirty-two tablets of Calms Forte.
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32 tablete Kalms Fortea.
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Now that I've done that -- I'll explain it in a moment --
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Sada kada sam to uradio -- Objasniću to za trenutak --
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I must tell you that
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Moram vam reći da
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I am an actor.
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sam ja glumac.
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I'm an actor who plays a specific part.
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Ja sam glumac koji igra određenu ulogu
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I play the part of a magician,
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Igram ulogu mađioničara,
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a wizard, if you will, a real wizard.
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čarobnjaka, ako hoćete, pravog čarobnjaka.
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If someone were to appear on this stage in front of me
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Kada bi se neko pojavio na ovoj bini ispred mene
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and actually claim to be
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i tvrdio da je zapravo
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an ancient prince of Denmark named Hamlet,
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drevni danski princ Hamlet,
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you would be insulted
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bili biste uvređeni
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and rightly so.
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i to s pravom.
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Why would a man assume that you would believe
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Zašto bi neko pretpostavio da biste poverovali
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something bizarre like this?
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u nešto tako bizarno?
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But there exists out there
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Ali u svetu postoji
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a very large population
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veoma velika populacija
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of people who will tell you
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ljudi koji će vam reći
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that they have psychic, magical powers
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da imaju vidovnjačke, magične moći,
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that they can predict the future,
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da mogu da predvide budućnost,
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that they can make contact with the deceased.
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da mogu da uspostave kontakt sa mrtvima.
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Oh, they also say
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O, i takođe kažu,
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they will sell you astrology
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prodaće vam astrologiju
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or other fortunetelling methods.
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i druge metode za proricanje sudbine.
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Oh, they gladly sell you that, yes.
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To će vam rado prodati. Da.
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And they also say
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I takođe kažu
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that they can give you perpetual motion machines
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da vam mogu dati perpetuum mobile
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and free energy systems.
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i sisteme besplatne energije.
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They claim to be psychics,
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Tvrde da su vidovnjaci,
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or sensitives, whatever they can.
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ili magovi, šta god mogu.
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But the one thing that has made a big comeback
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Ali jedna stvar koja se uveliko vraća
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just recently
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tek odnedavno,
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is this business of
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je ova stvar sa
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speaking with the dead.
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razgovorom sa mrtvima.
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Now, to my innocent mind,
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Sada, mom nevinom umu,
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dead implies
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smrt podrazumeva
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incapable of communicating. (Laughter)
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nemogućnost komunikacije.
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You might agree with me on that.
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Možda ćete se složiti sa mnom u tome.
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But these people, they tend to tell you that
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Ali ovi ljudi, oni će vam reći,
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not only can they communicate with the dead --
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ne samo da mogu da komuniciraju sa mrtvima --
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"Hi, there" --
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Zdravo --
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but they can hear the dead as well,
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već i da mogu da čuju mrtve,
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and they can relay this information back to the living.
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i da mogu da prenose informacije živima.
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I wonder if that's true.
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Pitam se da li je to istina.
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I don't think so, because
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Mislim da nije jer,
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this subculture of people
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ljudi u ovoj subkulturi
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use exactly the same gimmicks that we magicians do,
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koriste potpuno iste trikove kao i mi mađioničari,
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exactly the same --
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poptpuno iste,
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the same physical methods, the same psychological methods --
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iste fizičke metode, iste psihološke metode.
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and they effectively and profoundly
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I uspešno i lukavo
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deceive millions of people around the earth,
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su obmanuli milione ljudi širom planete.
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to their detriment.
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na njihovu štetu.
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They deceive these people,
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Obmanjuju te ljude.
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costs them a lot of money,
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To ih košta mnogo novca.
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cost them a lot of emotional anguish.
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Košta ih dosta duševnog bola.
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Billions of dollars are spent
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Milijarde dolara se troše
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every year, all over the globe,
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svake godine, svuda šitom sveta,
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on these charlatans.
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na ove šarlatane.
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Now, I have two questions
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Dakle, ja imam dva pitanja
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I would like to ask these people
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koja bih hteo da postavim tim ljudima
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if I had the opportunity to do so.
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kada bih imao priliku za to.
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First question: If I want to ask them to call up --
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Prvo pitanje: Ako hoću da ih pitam da prizovu --
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because they do hear them through the ear.
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jer ih stvarno čuju ušima.
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They listen to the spirits like this --
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Slušaju duhove na taj način.
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I'm going to ask you to call up the ghost of my grandmother
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Pitaću vas da prizovete duh moje babe
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because, when she died, she had the family will,
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jer, kada je umrla, kod nje je bio testament,
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and she secreted it someplace. We don't know where it is,
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i sakrlia ga je negde. Ne znamo gde je.
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so we ask Granny, "Where is the will, Granny?"
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I tako pitamo baku, ''Gde je testament, Bako?''
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What does Granny say? She says, "I'm in heaven and it's wonderful.
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Šta baka kaže? Kaže, '' U raju sam i divno je.
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I'm here with all my old friends, my deceased friends,
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Ovde sam sa svim starim prijateljima, mojim preminulim prijateljima,
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and my family
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i mojom porodicom,
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and all the puppy dogs and the kittens that I used to have when I was a little girl.
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i svim kucama i macama koje sam imala kad sam bila mala.
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And I love you, and I'll always be with you.
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I volim vas, i uvek ću biti sa vama.
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Good bye."
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Zbogom.''
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And she didn't answer the damn question!
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I nije odgovorila na prokleto pitanje.
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Where is the will?
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Gde je testament?
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Now, she could easily have said,
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Mogla je lagano da kaže,
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"Oh, it's in the library on the second shelf, behind the encyclopedia,"
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''Oh, u biblioteci je na drugoj polici, iza enciklopedije.''
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but she doesn't say that. No, she doesn't.
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Ali to ne kaže. Ne, ne kaže.
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She doesn't bring any useful information to us.
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Ne daje nam nikakve korisne informacije.
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We paid a lot of money for that information,
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Platili smo dosta novca za tu informaciju,
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be we didn't get it.
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ali je nismo dobili.
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The second question that I'd like to ask, rather simple:
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Drugo pitanje koje bih hteo da postavim, prilično je jednostavno.
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Suppose I ask them to contact
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Recimo da ih pitam da stupe u kontakt
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the spirit of my deceased father-in-law, as an example.
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sa duhom mog preminulog tasta, na primer.
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Why do they insist on saying --
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Zašto uporno govore --
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remember, they speak into this ear --
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setite se, oni mu pričaju u uvo --
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why do they say, "My name starts with J or M?"
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zašto kažu, '' Moje ime počinje sa Dž ili M?''
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Is this a hunting game?
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Da li je to igra nagađanja?
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Hunting and fishing? What is it?
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Nagađanja i pogađanja? Šta je?
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Is it 20 questions? No, it's more like 120 questions.
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Da li je to 20 pitanja? Ne, pre će biti 120 pitanja.
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But it is a cruel, vicious,
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Ali to je okrutna, opaka,
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absolutely conscienceless --
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potpuno nesavesna --
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I'll be all right, keep your seats (Laughter) --
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Biću dobro, nemojte ustajati --
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game that these people play.
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igra koju ti ljudi igraju.
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And they take advantage of the innocent, the naive,
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I iskorišćavaju nevine, naivne,
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the grieving, the needy people out there.
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ožalošćene, siromašne ljude u svetu.
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Now, this is a process
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Dakle, to je proces
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that is called cold reading.
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koji se zove hladno čitanje.
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There's one fellow out there,
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Ima jedan momak,
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Van Praagh is his name, James Van Praagh.
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zove se Van Prag, Džejms Van Prag.
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He's one of the big practitioners of this sort of thing.
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On je jedan od velikih praktikanata ove stvari.
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John Edward, Sylvia Browne
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Džon Edvard, Silvija Braun
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and Rosemary Altea, they are other operators.
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i Rouzmeri Altia, oni su neki od drugih.
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There are hundreds of them all over the earth, but in this country,
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Ima ih na stotine širom planete, ali u ovoj zemlji
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James Van Praagh is very big.
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Džejms Van Prag je jako poznat.
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And what does he do? He likes to tell you
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I šta on radi? On voli da vam priča
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how the deceased got deceased,
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kako su preminuli postali preminuli,
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the people he's talking to through his ear, you see?
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odnosno ljudi koje čuje ušima.
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So what he says is, very often, is like this: he says,
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I ono što vrlo često kaže je ovo,
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"He tells me, he tells me, before he passed,
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''Kaže mi, kaže mi, da je pre smrti,
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that he had trouble breathing."
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imao problema sa disanjem.''
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Folks, that's what dying is all about!
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Narode, to je poenta umiranja.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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You stop breathing, and then you're dead.
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Prestanete da dišete, i onda ste mrtvi.
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It's that simple.
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Sasvim jednostavno.
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And that's the kind of information they're going to bring back to you?
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I takve će vam informacije prenosti?
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I don't think so.
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Ne bih rekao.
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Now, these people will make guesses, they'll say things like,
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E sada, ti ljudi će nagađati, reći će na primer,
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"Why am I getting electricity?
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''Zašto čujem nešto o struji?
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He's saying to me, 'Electricity.'
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Govori mi, 'Struja.'
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Was he an electrician?" "No."
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Da li je bio električar?'' Ne.
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"Did he ever have an electric razor?" "No."
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''Da li je ikada imao brijač na struju?'' Ne.
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It was a game of hunting questions like this.
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To je igra pogađanja sa ovakvim pitanjima.
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This is what they go through.
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To je ono što oni rade.
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Now, folks often ask us
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Ljudi nas često pitaju,
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at the James Randi Educational Foundation,
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u Fondaciji za obrazovanje Džejms Rendi,
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they call me, they say, "Why are you so concerned about this, Mr. Randi?
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pozovu me, i kažu, ''Zašto se toliko brinete oko toga, gospodine Rendi?
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Isn't it just a lot of fun?"
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Nije li to sve jako zabavno?''
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No, it is not fun. It is a cruel farce.
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Ne, nije zabavno. To je okrutna farsa.
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Now, it may bring a certain amount of comfort,
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Možda će vam dati izvesnu utehu,
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but that comfort lasts
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ali ta uteha traje
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only about 20 minutes or so.
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samo oko 20-ak minuta.
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And then the people look in the mirror, and they say,
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I onda ljudi pogledaju u ogledalo, i kažu,
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I just paid a lot of money for that reading.
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Upravo sam platio puno novca za to čitanje.
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And what did she say to me? 'I love you!'"
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I šta mi je rekla? 'Volim te!'''
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They always say that.
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Uvek to kažu.
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They don't get any information,
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Ne dobijaju nikakve informacije,
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they don't get any value for what they spend.
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nikakvu vrednost za ono što potroše.
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Now, Sylvia Browne is the big operator.
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Silvija Braun je krupna riba.
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We call her "The Talons."
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Zovemo je ''Kandža.''
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Sylvia Browne -- thank you --
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Silvija Braun -- hvala --
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Sylvia Browne is the big operator
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Silvija Braun je krupna riba
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in this field at this very moment.
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u ovom poslu trenutno.
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Now, Sylvia Browne -- just to show you --
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Silvija Braun -- čisto da znate --
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she actually gets 700 dollars
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zaradi 700 dolara
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for a 20 minute reading over the telephone,
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za čitanje od 20 minuta preko telefona.
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she doesn't even go there in person,
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Ne mora ni da bude tu lično.
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and you have to wait up to two years because
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I morate da čekate do dve godine jer
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she's booked ahead that amount of time.
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je rezervisana unapred u tom periodu.
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You pay by credit card or whatever,
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Plaćate kreditnom karticom, ili kako već,
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and then she will call you
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i onda će vas ona zvati
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sometime in the next two years.
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nekada u naredne dve godine.
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You can tell it's her. "Hello, this is Sylvia Browne."
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Znate da je ona. ''Zdravo, ovde Silvija Braun.''
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That's her, you can tell right away.
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To je ona. Odmah možete da pogodite.
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Now, Montel Williams is an intelligent man.
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E sada, Montel Vilijams je inteligentan čovek.
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We all know who he is on television.
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Svi znamo ko je on na televiziji.
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He's well educated, he's smart,
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Obrazovan je. Pametan.
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he knows what Sylvia Browne is doing
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On zna da je to što Silvija Braun radi pogrešno,
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but he doesn't give a damn.
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ali ga je briga za to.
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He just doesn't care.
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Jednostavno ne mari.
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Because, the bottom line is, the sponsors love it,
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Jer, na kraju, sponzorima se to dopada,
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and he will expose her
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i on će je stalno razotkrivati
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to television publicity all the time.
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televizijskoj publici.
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Now, what does Sylvia Browne give you for that 700 dollars?
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Dakle, šta vam Silvija Braun daje za tih 700 dolara?
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She gives you the names of your guardian angels, that's first.
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Daje vam ime vašeg anđela čuvara, kao prvo.
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Now, without that, how could we possibly function? (Laughter)
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Bez toga, kako bismo živeli?
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She gives you the names of previous lives,
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Daje vam imena prethodnih života,
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who you were in previous lives.
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ko ste bili u prethodnom životu.
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Duh.
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Ma da.
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It turns out that the women
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Izgleda da su sve žene
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that she gives readings for
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kojima je čitala
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were all Babylonian princesses, or something like that.
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bile vavilonske princeze, ili tako nešto.
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And the men were all Grecian warriors
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I svi muškarci su bili grčki ratnici,
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fighting with Agamemnon.
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koji su se borili sa Agamemnonom.
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Nothing is ever said about
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Nikada nema
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a 14 year-old bootblack in the streets of London
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četrnaestogodišnjeg čistača cipela sa ulica Londona,
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who died of consumption.
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koji je umro od tuberkuloze.
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He isn't worth bringing back, obviously.
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On očigledno nije vredan pomena.
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And the strange thing -- folks, you may have noticed this too.
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I još jedna čudna stvar narode -- možda ste i to primetili --
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You see these folks on television --
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gledate te ljude na televiziji --
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they never call anybody back from hell. (Laughter)
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i nikada ne prizovu nikog iz pakla.
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Everyone comes back from heaven, but never from hell.
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Svi se vraćaju iz raja, ali nikada iz pakla.
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If they call back any of my friends,
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Kada bi prizvali nekog mog prijatelja,
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they're not going to... Well, you see the story.
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neće ih... Pa shvatate šta hoću da kažem.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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Now, Sylvia Browne is an exception,
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E sada, Silvija Braun je izuzetak,
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an exception in one way,
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izuzetak zbog jedne stvari,
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because the James Randi Educational Foundation, my foundation,
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jer Fondacija za obrazovanje Džejms Rendi, moja fondacija,
10:22
offers a one million dollar prize in negotiable bonds.
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nudi nagradu od milion dolara putem obveznica.
10:25
Very simply won.
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Nagrada se lako dobija.
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All you have to do is prove any paranormal, occult
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Potrebno je samo da, pod prikladnim uslovima za posmatranje,
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or supernatural event or power of any kind
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dokažete neki paranormalni, okultni,
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under proper observing conditions.
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ili natprirodni događaj bilo kakve prirode.
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It's very easy, win the million dollars.
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Vrlo je lako, osvojite milion dolara!
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Sylvia Browne is an exception in that
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Silvija Braun je izuzetak po tome
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she's the only professional psychic
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što je ona jedini profesionalni vidovnjak
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in the whole world
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iz celog sveta
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that has accepted our challenge.
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koji je prihvatio naš izazov.
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She did this on the "Larry King Live" show on CNN
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Uradila je to u emisiji Larija Kinga na CNN-u
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six and a half years ago.
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pre šest i po godina.
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And we haven't heard from her since. Strange.
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I od tada nam se nije javljala. Čudno.
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She said that, first of all, that she didn't know how to contact me.
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Rekla je, kao prvo, da nije znala kako da kontaktira sa mnom.
10:57
Duh.
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Ma da.
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A professional psychic who speaks to dead people,
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Profesionalni vidovnjak koji razgovara sa mrtvima,
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she can't reach me?
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ne može mene da nađe?
11:04
(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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I'm alive, you may have noticed.
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Živ sam, možda ste primetili.
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Well, pretty well anyway.
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Zdrav, prilično zdrav u svakom slučaju.
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She couldn't reach me. Now she says she doesn't want to reach me
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Nije mogla da kontaktira sa mnom. Sada kaže da neće da kontaktira sa mnom.
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because I'm a godless person.
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jer sam bezbožnik.
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All the more reason to take the million dollars,
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Još veći razlog da uzmeš milion dolara,
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wouldn't you think, Sylvia?
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zar ne, Silvija.
11:21
Now these people need to be stopped, seriously now.
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Te ljude treba zaustaviti, sada sam ozbiljan.
11:24
They need to be stopped because this is a cruel farce.
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Treba ih zaustaviti jer ovo je okrutna farsa.
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We get people coming to the foundation all the time.
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Ljudi nam stalno dolaze u fondaciju.
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They're ruined financially and emotionally
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Uništeni su i finansijski i emocionalno
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because they've given their money and their faith
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jer su poverili svoj novac i veru
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to these people.
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tim ljudima.
11:36
Now, I popped some pills earlier.
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Ja sam popio neke pilule ranije,
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I have to explain that to you.
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Moram to da vam objasnim.
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Homeopathy, let's find out what that's all about.
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Homeopatija, hajde da saznamo o čemu se tu radi.
11:43
Hmm. You've heard of it.
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Hmm. Čuli ste za to.
11:45
It's an alternative form of healing, right?
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To je alternativni način lečenja.
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Homeopathy actually consists -- and that's what this is.
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Homeopatija se zapravo sastoji -- a to je ovo.
11:51
This is Calms Forte,
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Ovo je "Kalms Forte",
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32 caplets of sleeping pills! I forgot to tell you that.
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32 tablete za spavanje -- zaboravio sam to da vam kažem.
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I just ingested
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Upravo sam popio
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six and a half days worth of sleeping pills.
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dozu tableta za spavanje dovoljnu za šest i po dana.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
12:04
Six and a half days, that certainly is a fatal dose.
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Šest i po dana, to je sigunro smrtonosna doza.
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It says right on the back here,
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Piše ovde pozadi,
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"In case of overdose,
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''U slučaju predoziranja,
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contact your poison control center immediately,"
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odmah pozovite centar za kontrolu trovanja,''
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and it gives an 800 number.
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i dat je broj telefona.
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Keep your seats -- it's going to be okay.
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Nemojte ustajati. Biću dobro.
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I don't really need it
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Nisu mi zapravo potrebni
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because I've been doing this stunt
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zato što radim ovaj trik
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for audiences all over the world
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za publike širom sveta
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for the last eight or 10 years,
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zadnjih osam ili deset godina,
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taking fatal doses of homeopathic sleeping pills.
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uzimam smrtonosne doze homeopatskih tableta za spavanje.
12:28
Why don't they affect me?
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Zašto ne utiču na mene?
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
12:32
(Applause)
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(aplauz)
12:35
The answer may surprise you.
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Odgovor će vas možda iznenaditi.
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What is homeopathy?
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Šta je homeopatija?
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It's taking a medicine that really works
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To je kada uzmete lek koji stvarno deluje
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and diluting it down
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i razredite ga
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well beyond Avogadro's limit.
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mnogo više od Avogadrove granice.
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Diluting it down to the point
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Razredite ga dok
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where there's none of it left. (Laughter)
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ništa od njega ne ostane.
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Now folks, this is not
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Narode, ovo što ću vam reći
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just a metaphor I'm going to give you now, it's true.
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nije samo metafora, istina je.
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It's exactly equivalent to taking
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To je potpuno isto kao da ste uzeli
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one 325 milligram aspirin tablet,
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jednu tabletu aspirina od 325 miligrama,
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throwing it into the middle of Lake Tahoe,
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bacili je u sred jezera Taho,
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and then stirring it up, obviously with a very big stick,
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i onda promešali, naravno, jako velikim štapom,
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and waiting two years or so
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i čekali oko dve godine
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until the solution is homogeneous.
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dok rastvor ne postane homogen.
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Then, when you get a headache,
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Onda, kada imate glavobolju,
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you take a sip of this water, and -- voila! -- it is gone.
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uzmete gutljaj te vode, i eto! Nestala je.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
13:19
Now that is true. That is what homeopathy is all about.
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To je istina. To je suština homeopatije.
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And another claim that they make -- you'll love this one --
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Ima još jedna stvar koju govore -- ovo će vam se svideti --
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the more dilute the medicine is, they say,
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što je lek razređeniji, kažu,
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the more powerful it is.
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to je moćniji.
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Now wait a minute, we heard about a guy in Florida.
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Čekajte malo, čuli smo za jednog tipa u Floridi.
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The poor man, he was on homeopathic medicine.
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Siroti čovek, uzimao je homeopatske lekove.
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He died of an overdose.
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Umro je od predoziranja.
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He forgot to take his pill.
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Zaboravio je da popije lek.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
13:41
Work on it. Work on it.
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Razmislite o tome. Razmislite.
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It's a ridiculous thing. It is absolutely ridiculous.
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To je besmisleno. Potpuno besmisleno.
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I don't know what we're doing,
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Ne znam zašto,
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believing in all this nonsense over all these years.
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verujemo u sve te gluposti svih ovih godina.
13:53
Now, let me tell you,
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E sad, da vam kažem,
13:55
The James Randi Educational Foundation
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Fondacija za obrazovanje Džejms Rendij
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is waving this very big carrot,
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maše sa ovom velikom nagradom,
13:59
but I must say, the fact that nobody
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ali moram reći, da to što niko
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has taken us up on this offer
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nije pristao na ovu ponudu
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doesn't mean that the powers don't exist.
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ne znači da te moći ne postoje.
14:06
They might, some place out there.
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Možda postoje, negde u svetu.
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Maybe these people are just independently wealthy.
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Možda su ovi ljudi samo veoma bogati.
14:12
Well, with Sylvia Browne I would think so.
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Pa, na osnovu Silivije Braun, rekao bih da je tako.
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You know, 700 dollars for a 20 minute reading
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Znate, 700 dolara za čitanje od 20 minuta
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over the telephone --
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preko telefona,
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that's more than lawyers make!
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to je više nego što advokati zarađuju.
14:21
I mean that's a fabulous amount of money.
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Hoću da kažem da je to ogromna količina novca.
14:23
These people don't need the million dollars perhaps,
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Možda tim ljudima ne treba milion dolara,
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but wouldn't you think they'd like to take it
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ali zar ne mislite da bi hteli da ih uzmu
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just to make me look silly?
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samo da bi od mene napravili budalu,
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Just to get rid of this godless person out there
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samo da se reše tog bezbožnika
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that Sylvia Browne talks about all the time?
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o kojem Silvija Braun stalno priča?
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I think that something needs to be done about this.
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Mislim da nešto mora da se preduzme u vezi sa ovim.
14:38
We really would love to have suggestions from you folks
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Zaista bismo voleli da čujemo vaše predloge
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on how to contact federal, state
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kako da kontaktiramo sa federalnim, državnim
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and local authorities
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i lokalnim vlastima
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to get them to do something.
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i nateramo ih da nešto preduzmu.
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If you find out -- now I understand.
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Ako saznate -- sada mi je jasno --
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We've seen people, even today, speaking to us
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ljudi nam, čak i danas, govore o
14:53
about AIDS epidemics
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epidemiji SIDE
14:55
and starving kids around the world
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i deci koja gladuju širom sveta
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and impure water supplies that people have to suffer with.
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i zagađenim zalihama vode sa kojima se ljudi muče.
15:00
Those are very important,
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Te stvari su nam veoma bitne,
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critically important to us.
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one su od ključne važnosti.
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And we must do something about those problems.
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I moramo nešto preduzeti u vezi sa tim problemima.
15:07
But at the same time,
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Ali u isto vreme...
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as Arthur C. Clarke said,
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Kao što je Artur C. Klark govorio, znate,
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The rotting of the human mind,
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''Propadanje ljudskog uma.''
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the business of believing in the paranormal and the occult
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Verovanje u paranormalno i okultno
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and the supernatural --
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i natprirodno,
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all of this total nonsense,
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sve te potpune gluposti,
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this medieval thinking --
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to srednjovekovno razmišljanje,
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I think something should be done about that,
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Mislim da nešto treba da se uradi povodom toga,
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and it all lies in education.
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i sve zavisi od obrazovanja.
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Largely, it's the media
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Mediji su, uglavnom,
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who are to blame for this sort of thing.
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krivi za ove stvari.
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They shamelessly promote
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Oni besramno promovišu
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all kinds of nonsense of this sort
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svakakve gluposti ove vrste
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because it pleases the sponsors.
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zato što su sponzori zadovoljni.
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It's the bottom line, the dollar line.
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Na to se svodi, na novac.
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That's what they're looking at.
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To je ono što je njima bitno.
15:41
We really must do something about this.
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Zaista moramo uraditi nešto povodom ovoga.
15:43
I'm willing to take your suggestions,
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Rado ću prihvatiti vaše predloge,
15:45
and I'm willing to have you
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i voleo bih da se prijavite
15:47
tune in to our webpage.
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na našu internet stranicu.
15:50
It's www.randi.org.
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www.randi.org.
15:53
Go in there and look at the archives,
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Idite tamo i pogledajte arhive,
15:55
and you will begin to understand much more
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i shvatićete mnogo više
15:57
of what I've been talking about today.
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o svemu što sam danas pričao.
15:59
You will see the records that we have.
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Videćete kakve sve zapise imamo.
16:01
There's nothing like sitting in that library
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Ništa nije lepše nego kada nam se u biblioteci
16:03
and having a family appear there
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pojavi porodica
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and say that Mum gave away all the family fortune.
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koja kaže kako je mama dala celo porodično bogatstvo.
16:08
She cashed in the CDs,
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Kupila je sve diskove,
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she gave away the stocks and the certificates.
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dala je sve akcije i njihove sertifikate.
16:13
That's really sad to hear,
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Zaista je tužno slušati to,
16:15
and it hasn't helped them one bit,
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i sve to im nimalo nije pomoglo,
16:18
hasn't solved any of their problems.
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nije im rešilo nijedan problem.
16:20
Yes, there could be a rotting of the American mind,
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Da, američki um će možda zaista propasti
16:22
and of the minds all the way around the earth,
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kao i svi umovi širom sveta
16:25
if we don't start to think sensibly about these things.
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ako ne počnemo razumno da razmišljamo o ovim stvarima.
16:29
Now, we've offered this carrot,
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Dakle, ponudili smo ovu nagradu,
16:31
as I say, we've dangled the carrot.
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kao što kažem, mašemo sa njom.
16:33
We're waiting for the psychics to come forth and snap at it.
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Čekamo vidovnjake da dođu i da je uzmu.
16:35
Oh, we get lots of them,
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Mnogo njih dolazi,
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hundreds of them every year come by.
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stotine njih dođe svake godine.
16:39
These are dowsers and people
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To su lovci na blago i ljudi
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who think that they can talk to the dead as well,
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koji takođe misle da mogu da pričaju sa mrtvima,
16:43
but they're amateurs; they don't know how to evaluate
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ali to su amateri, ne znaju kako da ocene
16:45
their own so-called powers.
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sopstvene takozvane moći.
16:48
The professionals never come near us,
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Profesionalci nam se nikada ne približavaju,
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except in that case of Sylvia Browne
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osim onog slučaja sa Silvijom Braun.
16:52
that I told you about a moment ago.
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o kojem sam vam malopre pričao.
16:55
She did accept and then backed away.
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Ona je pristala i onda se povukla.
16:58
Ladies and gentlemen,
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Dame i gospodo,
17:01
I'm James Randi,
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ja sam Džejms Rendi,
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and I'm waiting.
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i ja čekam.
17:07
Thank you.
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Hvala.
17:09
(Applause)
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(aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
James Randi - Skeptic and conjurorLegendary skeptic James Randi has devoted his life to debunking frauds and investigating paranormal and pseudoscientific claims.
Why you should listen
James Randi has an international reputation as a magician and escape artist, but he is perhaps best known as the world's most tireless investigator and demystifier of paranormal and pseudoscientific claims.
Randi has pursued "psychic" spoonbenders, exposed the dirty tricks of faith healers, investigated homeopathic water "with a memory," and generally been a thorn in the sides of those who try to pull the wool over the public's eyes in the name of the supernatural. He has received numerous awards and recognitions, including a MacArthur "genius" grant in 1986. He's the author of numerous books, including The Truth About Uri Geller, The Faith Healers, Flim-Flam!, and An Encyclopedia of Claims, Frauds, and Hoaxes of the Occult and Supernatural.
In 1996, the James Randi Education Foundation was established to further Randi's work. Randi's long-standing challenge to psychics now stands as a $1,000,000 prize administered by the Foundation. It remains unclaimed.
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