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Colin Stokes: How movies teach manhood
Colin Stokes: Hvordan film lærer mandighed
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Da Colin Stokes's treårige son så et glimt af Star Wars, blev han øjeblikkeligt besat. Men hvilke budskaber suge han op fra sci-fi klasikkeren? Stokes beder om flere film der sender positive budskaber til drenge: At samarbejde er heroisk, og at respektere kvinder er lige så mandigt som at overvinde skurken. (Filmet ved TEDxBeaconStreet.)
Colin Stokes - Proud dad
The director of communications for the non-profit Citizen Schools, Colin Stokes thinks deeply about the media he shares with his two young children. Full bio
The director of communications for the non-profit Citizen Schools, Colin Stokes thinks deeply about the media he shares with his two young children. Full bio
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00:16
You know, my favorite part of being a dad
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is the movies I get to watch.
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er de film jeg kommer til at se.
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I love sharing my favorite movies with my kids,
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Jeg elsker at dele min yndlingsfilm med mine børn,
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and when my daughter was four,
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og da min datter var fire,
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we got to watch "The Wizard of Oz" together.
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så vi "Troldmanden fra Oz" sammen.
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It totally dominated her imagination for months.
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Det dominerede totalt hendes fantasi i månedsvis.
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Her favorite character was Glinda, of course.
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Hendes yndlingskarakter var Glinda, selvfølgelig.
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It gave her a great excuse to wear a sparkly dress
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Det gav hende en fantastisk undskyldning til at have en skinnende kjole på
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and carry a wand.
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og have en tryllestav.
00:39
But you watch that movie enough times,
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Men ser man den film nok gange,
00:42
and you start to realize how unusual it is.
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begynder man at blive klar over hvor usædvanligt det er.
00:43
Now we live today, and are raising our children,
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Nu lever vi i dag, og opdrager vores børn,
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in a kind of children's-fantasy-spectacular-industrial complex.
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på et slags børne-fantasi-spektakulær-industri kompleks.
00:52
But "The Wizard of Oz" stood alone.
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Men "Troldmanden fra Oz" stod alene.
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It did not start that trend.
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Den startede ikke den trend.
00:56
Forty years later was when the trend really caught on,
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Fyrre år senere begyndte trenden faktisk først,
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with, interestingly, another movie
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med, interessant nok, en anden film
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that featured a metal guy
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der viste en metalfyr
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and a furry guy
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og en behåret fyr
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rescuing a girl by dressing up as the enemy's guards.
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der reddede en pige ved at klæde sig ud som fjendens tropper.
01:11
Do you know what I'm talking about? (Laughter)
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Ved I hvad jeg taler om? (Latter)
01:13
Yeah.
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Ja.
01:15
Now, there's a big difference between these two movies,
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Men, der er en stor forskel på disse to film,
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a couple of really big differences between "The Wizard of Oz"
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et par virkelig store forskelle mellem "Troldmanden fra Oz"
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and all the movies we watch today.
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og alle filmene vi ser i dag.
01:21
One is there's very little violence in "The Wizard of Oz."
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For det første er der meget lidt vold i "Troldmanden fra Oz."
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The monkeys are rather aggressive, as are the apple trees.
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Aberne er ret aggressive, ligesom æbletræerne er det.
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But I think if "The Wizard of Oz" were made today,
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Men jeg mener, at hvis "Troldmanden fra Oz" blev lavet i dag,
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the wizard would say, "Dorothy, you are the savior of Oz
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ville troldmanden sige, "Dorothy, du er Ozs redning
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that the prophecy foretold.
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som profetien forudsagde.
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Use your magic slippers to defeat
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Brug dine magiske tøfler til at slå
01:42
the computer-generated armies of the Wicked Witch."
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den onde heks's computer genererede hære."
01:45
But that's not how it happens.
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Men det er ikke sådan det sker.
01:47
Another thing that's really unique about "The Wizard of Oz"
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En anden ting der er temmelig unik ved "Troldmanden fra Oz"
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to me is that all of the most heroic
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for mig, er at alle de mest heroiske
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and wise and even villainous characters
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og vise og selv skurkagtige karakterer
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are female.
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er kvinder.
02:00
Now I started to notice this
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Nu begyndte jeg at lægge mærke til dette
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when I actually showed "Star Wars" to my daughter,
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da jeg faktisk viste "Star Wars" for min datter,
02:05
which was years later, and the situation was different.
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som var flere år senere, og situationen var anderledes.
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At that point I also had a son.
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På det tidspunkt havde jeg også en søn.
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He was only three at the time.
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Han var kun tre på det tidspunkt.
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He was not invited to the screening. He was too young for that.
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Han blev ikke inviteret til forevisningen. Han var for ung til det.
02:16
But he was the second child,
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Men han var det andet barn,
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and the level of supervision had plummeted. (Laughter)
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og opsynsniveauet var styrtdykket. (Latter)
02:22
So he wandered in,
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Så han gik ind,
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and it imprinted on him
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og det prægede ham
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like a mommy duck does to its duckling,
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ligesom en mor and gør det på sine ællinger,
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and I don't think he understands what's going on,
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og jeg tror ikke han forstår hvad der foregår,
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but he is sure soaking in it.
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men han suger godt nok det hele til sig.
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And I wonder what he's soaking in.
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Og jeg undrer mig over hvad han suger til sig.
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Is he picking up on the themes of courage
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Samler han temaerne om mod
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and perseverance and loyalty?
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og udholdenhed og loyalitet op?
02:48
Is he picking up on the fact that Luke
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Samler han det faktum op, at Luke
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joins an army to overthrow the government?
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melder sig ind i en hær for at vælte regeringen?
02:56
Is he picking up on the fact that
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Samler han det faktum op, at
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there are only boys in the universe
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der kun er drenge i universet
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except for Aunt Beru, and of course this princess,
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bortset fra Aunt Beru, og selvfølgelig hans prinsesse,
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who's really cool, but who kind of waits around through most of the movie
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der er virkelig cool, men der på en eller anden måde venter hele filmen
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so that she can award the hero with a medal and a wink
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så hun kan belønne helten med en medalje og et blink
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to thank him for saving the universe, which he does
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for at takke ham for at redde universet, som han gør
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by the magic that he was born with?
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ved hjælp af den magi som han blev født med?
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Compare this to 1939 with "The Wizard of Oz."
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Sammenlign dette med 1939 med "Troldmanden fra Oz."
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How does Dorothy win her movie?
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Hvordan vinder Dorothy sin film?
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By making friends with everybody
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Ved at blive venner med alle
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and being a leader.
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og være en leder.
03:28
That's kind of the world I'd rather raise my kids in --
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Det er den slags verden jeg hellere vil opdrage mine børn i --
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Oz, right? -- and not the world of dudes fighting,
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Oz, ikk? -- og ikke den verden hvor fyre slås,
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which is where we kind of have to be.
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som er der vi på en eller anden måde skal være.
03:37
Why is there so much Force -- capital F, Force --
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Hvorfor er der så meget Kraft -- stort K, Kraft --
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in the movies we have for our kids,
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i de film vi har til vores børn,
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and so little yellow brick road?
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og så lille gul murstens vej?
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There is a lot of great writing about the impact
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Der er meget god skrivning om indflydelsen
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that the boy-violent movie has on girls,
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som drenge-volds film har på piger,
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and you should do that reading. It's very good.
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og man bør læse det. Det er rigtig godt.
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I haven't read as much on how boys are picking up on this vibe.
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Jeg har ikke læst så meget om hvordan drenge samler op på denne udstråling.
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I know from my own experience that
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Jeg ved fra min egen erfaring at
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Princess Leia did not provide the adequate context
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Prinsesse Leia leverede ikke tilstrækkelig kontekst
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that I could have used in navigating the adult world
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som jeg kunne have brugt til at navigere i den voksne verden
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that is co-ed. (Laughter)
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der er for begge køn. (Latter)
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I think there was a first-kiss moment
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Jeg tror der var et første-kys øjeblik
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when I really expected the credits to start rolling
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da jeg i virkeligheden forventede at rulleteksterne ville begynde
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because that's the end of the movie, right?
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fordi det er slutningen af filmen, ikke?
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I finished my quest, I got the girl.
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Jeg sluttede min søgen, jeg fik pigen.
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Why are you still standing there?
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Hvorfor står du stadig der?
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I don't know what I'm supposed to do.
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Jeg ved ikke hvad jeg skal gøre.
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The movies are very, very focused on defeating the villain
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Film er meget, meget fokuserede på at besejre skurken
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and getting your reward, and there's not a lot of room
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og få ens belønning, og der er ikke meget plads
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for other relationships and other journeys.
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til andre forhold og andre rejser.
04:42
It's almost as though if you're a boy,
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Det er næsten som om man er en dreng,
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you are a dopey animal,
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man er et dumt dyr,
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and if you are a girl, you should bring your warrior costume.
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og hvis man er en pige, bør man medbringe ens krigerkostume.
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There are plenty of exceptions,
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Der er masser af undtagelser,
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and I will defend the Disney princesses in front of any you.
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og jeg vil forsvare Disney prinsesser foran enhver af jer.
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But they do send a message to boys,
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Men de sender en besked til drenge,
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that they are not, the boys are not really the target audience.
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at de ikke er, drengene er i virkeligheden ikke målgruppen.
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They are doing a phenomenal job of teaching girls
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De gør et fænomenalt arbejde med at lære pigerne
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how to defend against the patriarchy,
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hvordan de skal forsvare sig mod patriarkatet,
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but they are not necessarily showing boys
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men de viser ikke nødvendigvis drenge
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how they're supposed to defend against the patriarchy.
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hvordan de skal forsvare sig mod patriarkatet.
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There's no models for them.
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Der er ikke nogen modeller for dem.
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And we also have some terrific women
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Og vi har også nogle fantastiske kvinder
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who are writing new stories for our kids,
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der skriver nye historier til vores børn,
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and as three-dimensional and delightful as Hermione and Katniss are,
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og så tre-dimensionelle og skønne som Hermione og Katniss,
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these are still war movies.
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dette er stadig krigsfilm.
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And, of course, the most successful studio of all time
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Og, selvfølgelig, det mest succesfulde studie nogensinde
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continues to crank out classic after classic,
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fortsætter med at sende klassiker efter klassiker ud,
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every single one of them about
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hver eneste af dem handler om
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the journey of a boy, or a man,
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en drengs rejse, eller en mand,
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or two men who are friends, or a man and his son,
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eller to mænd der er venner, eller en mand og hans søn,
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or two men who are raising a little girl.
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eller to mænd der opdrager en lille pige.
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Until, as many of you are thinking, this year,
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Indtil, som mange af jer tænker, i år,
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when they finally came out with "Brave."
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da de endelig udgav "Modig."
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I recommend it to all of you. It's on demand now.
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Jeg anbefaler den til jer alle sammen. Den er on demand nu.
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Do you remember what the critics said when "Brave" came out?
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Kan I huske hvad kritikkerne sagde da "Modig" kom ud?
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"Aw, I can't believe Pixar made a princess movie."
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"Aw, jeg kan næsten ikke tro at Pixar lavede en prinsesse film."!
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It's very good. Don't let that stop you.
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Den er rigtig god. Lad det ikke stoppe jer.
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Now, almost none of these movies pass the Bechdel Test.
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Nu, er der næsten ingen af disse film der består Bechdel testen.
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I don't know if you've heard of this.
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Jeg ved ikke om I har hørt om denne.
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It has not yet caught on and caught fire,
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Den er endnu ikke blevet populær,
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but maybe today we will start a movement.
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men måske starter vi en bevægelse en dag.
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Alison Bechdel is a comic book artist,
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Alison Bechdel er en tegneserie artist,
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and back in the mid-'80s, she recorded this conversation
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og tilbage i midten af 80'erne, optog hun denne samtale
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she'd had with a friend about assessing the movies that they saw.
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som hun havde haft med nogle venner om at bedømme de film som de så.
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And it's very simple. There's just three questions you should ask:
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Og det er meget simpelt. Der er kun tre spørgsmål man skal stille:
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Is there more than one character in the movie
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Er der mere end en karakter i filmen,
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that is female who has lines?
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der er en kvinde, der har replikker?
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So try to meet that bar.
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Så prøv at leve op til det.
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And do these women talk to each other at any point in the movie?
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Og taler disse kvinder med hinanden på noget tidspunkt i løbet af filmen?
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And is their conversation about something other than
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Og handler deres samtale om noget andet end
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the guy that they both like? (Laughter)
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fyren de begge kan lide? (Latter)
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Right? Thank you. (Applause)
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Ikke? Tak. (Bifald)
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Thank you very much.
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Mange tak.
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Two women who exist and talk to each other about stuff.
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To kvinder der eksisterer og taler med hinanden om ting.
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It does happen. I've seen it,
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Det sker. Jeg har set det,
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and yet I very rarely see it in the movies
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og alligevel ser jeg det meget sjældent i de film
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that we know and love.
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som vi kender og holder af.
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In fact, this week I went to see
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Faktisk, var jeg sidste uge inde og se
07:21
a very high-quality movie, "Argo."
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en meget høj-kvalitets film, "Argo."
07:25
Right? Oscar buzz, doing great at the box office,
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Ikke? Oscar sladder, billetindtægterne er gode,
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a consensus idea of what a quality Hollywood film is.
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en konsensus ide om hvad en Hollywood kvalitetsfilm er.
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It pretty much flunks the Bechdel test.
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Den fejler mere eller mindre Bechdel testen.
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And I don't think it should, because a lot of the movie,
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Og jeg mener ikke den burde gøre det, fordi meget af filmen,
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I don't know if you've seen it, but a lot of the movie
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jeg ved ikke om I har set den, men meget af filmen
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takes place in this embassy where men and women
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foregår i denne ambassade hvor mænd og kvinder
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are hiding out during the hostage crisis.
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gemmer sig under en gidsel krise.
07:47
We've got quite a few scenes of the men
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Vi har en del scener med mændene
07:49
having deep, angst-ridden conversations in this hideout,
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der har dybe, skræmte samtaler i dette skjul,
07:53
and the great moment for one of the actresses is
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og det store øjeblik for en af de kvindelige skuespillere er
07:57
to peek through the door and say, "Are you coming to bed, honey?"
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at smugkigge ud gennem døren og sige, "Kommer du i seng, skat?"
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That's Hollywood for you.
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Det er Hollywood i en nøddeskal.
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So let's look at the numbers.
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Så lad os se på tallene.
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2011, of the 100 most popular movies,
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2011, af de 100 mest populære film,
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how many of them do you think actually have female protagonists?
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hvor mange af dem, tror I, faktisk har kvindelige hovedpersoner?
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Eleven. It's not bad.
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Elleve. Det er ikke dårligt.
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It's not as many percent as the number of women
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Det er ikke lige så mange procent som antallet af kvinder
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we've just elected to Congress, so that's good.
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som vi lige har valgt ind i kongressen, så det er fint.
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But there is a number that is greater than this
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Men der er et antal der er større end dette
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that's going to bring this room down.
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der kommer til at overraske alle herinde.
08:30
Last year, The New York Times published a study
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Forrige år, udgav The New York Times en undersøgelse
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that the government had done.
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som regeringen havde udført.
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Here's what it said.
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Her er hvad der stod.
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One out of five women in America
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En ud af fem kvinder i USA
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say that they have been sexually assaulted some time in their life.
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sagde at de var blevet angrebet seksuel på et tidspunkt i deres liv.
08:47
Now, I don't think that's the fault of popular entertainment.
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Nu mener jeg ikke at det er den populære underholdnings skyld.
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I don't think kids' movies have anything to do with that.
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Jeg mener ikke at børnefilm har noget at gøre med det.
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I don't even think that
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Jeg mener ikke engang at
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music videos or pornography are really directly related to that,
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musikvideoer eller pornografi er direkte forbundet med det,
09:01
but something is going wrong,
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men der går noget galt,
09:03
and when I hear that statistic,
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og når jeg hører den statistik,
09:06
one of the things I think of is
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en af de ting jeg tænker på er
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that's a lot of sexual assailants.
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at det er mange seksuelle angribere.
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Who are these guys? What are they learning?
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Hvem er disse fyre? Hvad lærer de?
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What are they failing to learn?
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Hvad lærer de ikke?
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Are they absorbing the story that
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Opsuger de den historie at
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a male hero's job is to defeat the villain with violence
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en mandlig helts job er at bekæmpe skurken med vold
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and then collect the reward, which is a woman
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og så indsamle belønningen, som er en kvinde
09:27
who has no friends and doesn't speak?
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der ikke har nogen venner og ikke taler?
09:32
Are we soaking up that story?
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Suger vi den historie op?
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You know,
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I ved,
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as a parent with the privilege
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som forælder med det privilegium
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of raising a daughter
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af et opdrage en datter
09:45
like all of you who are doing the same thing,
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ligesom alle jer der gør det samme,
09:48
we find this world and this statistic very alarming
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finder vi denne verden og denne statistik meget alarmerende
09:52
and we want to prepare them.
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og vi vil forberede dem.
09:53
We have tools at our disposal like "girl power,"
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Vi har værktøjet til rådighed som "girl power,"
09:57
and we hope that that will help,
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og vi håber at det vil hjælpe,
10:00
but I gotta wonder, is girl power going to protect them
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men jeg undres, vil girl power beskytte dem
10:04
if, at the same time, actively or passively,
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hvis, vi på samme tid, aktivt og passivt,
10:06
we are training our sons to maintain their boy power?
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træner vores sønner til at vedligeholde deres 'boy' power.
10:11
I mean, I think the Netflix queue
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Jeg mener, jeg tror at Netflix ventekøen
10:15
is one way that we can do something very important,
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er en måde hvorpå vi kan gøre noget meget vigtigt,
10:18
and I'm talking mainly to the dads here.
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og jeg taler hovedsageligt til fædrene her.
10:21
I think we have got to show our sons
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Jeg mener at vi skal vise vores sønner
10:24
a new definition of manhood.
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en ny definition på mandighed.
10:26
The definition of manhood is already turning upside down.
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Definitionen på mandighed begynder allerede at vende på hovedet.
10:30
You've read about how the new economy
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I har læst om hvordan den nye økonomi
10:32
is changing the roles of caregiver and wage earner.
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ændrer rollerne på omsorgsperson og familieforsørger.
10:36
They're throwing it up in the air.
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De kaster det op i luften.
10:37
So our sons are going to have to find some way
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Så vores sønner kommer til at skulle finde på en måde
10:40
of adapting to this, some new relationship with each other,
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på at adoptere dette, et nyt forhold med hinanden,
10:43
and I think we really have to show them, and model for them,
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og jeg mener at vi virkelig skal vise dem, og være forbillede for dem,
10:47
how a real man
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hvordan en rigtig mand
10:51
is someone who trusts his sisters
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er en der stole på sine søstre
10:54
and respects them, and wants to be on their team,
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og respekterer dem, og vil være på deres hold,
10:58
and stands up against the real bad guys,
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og tage kampen op imod de rigtige skurke,
11:01
who are the men who want to abuse the women.
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der er mændene der vil misbruge kvinder.
11:05
And I think our job in the Netflix queue
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Og jeg mener at vores arbejde i Netflix ventekøen
11:08
is to look out for those movies that pass the Bechdel Test,
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er at se efter de film der består Bechdel testen,
11:12
if we can find them, and to seek out the heroines
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hvis vi kan finde dem, og at finde de kvindelige helte
11:16
who are there,
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hvem de er,
11:18
who show real courage, who bring people together,
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der viser ægte mod, der samler mennesker,
11:22
and to nudge our sons to identify with those heroines
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og at puffe vores sønner til at identificere sig med de heltinder
11:25
and to say, "I want to be on their team,"
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og at sige, "Jeg vil være på deres team,"
11:29
because they're going to be on their team.
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fordi de kommer til at være på deres team.
11:33
When I asked my daughter who her favorite character was in "Star Wars,"
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Da jeg spurgte min datter om hvem der var hendes yndlingskarakter i "Star Wars,"
11:37
do you know what she said?
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ved I hvad hun sagde?
11:39
Obi-Wan.
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Obi-Wan.
11:41
Obi-Wan Kenobi and Glinda.
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Obi-Wan Kenobi og Glinda.
11:45
What do these two have in common?
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Hvad har disse to til fælles?
11:49
Maybe it's not just the sparkly dress.
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Måske er det ikke kun den strålende kjole.
11:51
I think these people are experts.
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Jeg mener at disse mennesker er eksperter.
11:54
I think these are the two people in the movie
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Jeg mener at dette er de to mennesker i filmen
11:56
who know more than anybody else,
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der ved mere end nogen anden,
11:57
and they love sharing their knowledge with other people
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og de elsker at dele deres viden med andre mennesker
12:01
to help them reach their potential.
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til at hjælpe dem med at nå deres potentiale.
12:04
Now, they are leaders.
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Nu er de ledere.
12:06
I like that kind of quest for my daughter,
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Jeg kan godt lide den slags søgen for min datter,
12:08
and I like that kind of quest for my son.
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og jeg kan godt lide den slags søgen til min søn.
12:10
I want more quests like that.
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Jeg vil gerne have mere af den slags søgen.
12:12
I want fewer quests where my son is told,
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Jeg vil have færre søgen hvor min søn får at vide,
12:15
"Go out and fight it alone,"
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"Gå ud og kæmp selv,"
12:17
and more quests where he sees that it's his job to join a team,
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og flere søgen hvor han ser at det er hans arbejde at slutte sig til teamet,
12:22
maybe a team led by women,
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måske et team der ledes af kvinder,
12:26
to help other people become better
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til at hjælpe andre mennesker med at blive bedre
12:32
and be better people,
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og være bedre mennesker,
12:34
like the Wizard of Oz.
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ligesom Troldmanden fra Oz.
12:37
Thank you.
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Tak.
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Colin Stokes - Proud dadThe director of communications for the non-profit Citizen Schools, Colin Stokes thinks deeply about the media he shares with his two young children.
Why you should listen
Colin Stokes divides his time between parenting and building the brand of Citizen Schools, a non-profit that reimagines the school day for middle school students in low-income communities in eight states. As Managing Director of Brand & Communications, Colin helps people within the organization find the ideas, words and stories that will connect with more and more people. He believes that understanding the human mind is a force that can be used for good and seeks to take advantage of our innate and learned tendencies to bring out the best in each other and our culture.
Before starting a family, Colin was an actor and graphic designer in New York City. He starred in the long-running off-Broadway musical I Love You, You’re Perfect, Now Change, as well is in several musicals and Shakespeare stagings. But he jokes that he seems to have achieved more renown (and considerably more revenue) for his brief appearances on two Law & Order episodes.
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