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Jill Sobule + Julia Sweeney: The Jill and Julia Show
A Jill és Julia Show
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Két TED kedvenc, Jill Sobule és Julia Sweeney összeálltak egy elbűvülő előadásra, amely ötvözi a szellemes dalszövegírást egy kevés társadalmi kritikával.
Jill Sobule - Singer/songwriter
Jill Sobule isn't just another singer-songwriter with catchy tunes and smart lyrics, she's one of the more insightful satirists of our age. Each of her fanciful songs captures an issue or irony, an emotion or epiphany that helps us understand what it's like to live now. Full bioJulia Sweeney - Actor, comedian, playwright
Julia Sweeney creates comedic works that tackle deep issues: cancer, family, faith. Full bio
Jill Sobule isn't just another singer-songwriter with catchy tunes and smart lyrics, she's one of the more insightful satirists of our age. Each of her fanciful songs captures an issue or irony, an emotion or epiphany that helps us understand what it's like to live now. Full bioJulia Sweeney - Actor, comedian, playwright
Julia Sweeney creates comedic works that tackle deep issues: cancer, family, faith. Full bio
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♫ Jill Sobule: At a conference in Monterey by the big, big jellyfish tank, ♫
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♫ Egy konferencián Monterey-ben a nagy-nagy medúza akvárium mellett ♫
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♫ I first saw you and I got so shy. ♫
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♫ láttalak meg először és úgy megszeppentem. ♫
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♫ You see, I was a little paranoid 'cause I might have been high. ♫
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♫ Egy kicsit paranoiás voltam mert picit talán beszívtam. ♫
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♫ And I hadn't done that in ages and I won't do that again. ♫
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♫ És már évek óta nem tettem és nem is fogom újra. ♫
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♫ But that's another story. ♫
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♫ De ez egy másik történet. ♫
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♫ Loved you forever and I've been a big fan, ♫
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♫ Régóta imádlak és hatalmas rajongód vagyok, ♫
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♫ the one-woman shows, I even rented "Pat." ♫
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♫ az egyszemélyes show-k, és még a 'Pat'-et is kivettem. ♫
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♫ I got enough nerve to come up to you, ♫
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♫ Összeszedtem a bátorságom és odamentem, ♫
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♫ but little did I know one year later we'd be doing this show. ♫
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♫ de akkor még nem tudthattam, hogy egy év múlva együtt csináljuk ezt. ♫
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♫ I sing. Julia Sweeney: I tell stories. Together: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Én énekelek. Sweeney: Én mesélek. Együtt: A Jill és Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Sometimes it works. Sweeney: Sometimes it doesn't. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Néha működik. Sweeney: Néha nem. ♫
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♫ Together: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Együtt: A Jill és Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Sweeney: At a conference in Monterey next to the big, big jellyfish tank, ♫
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♫ Egy konferencián Monterey-ben a nagy-nagy medúza akvárium mellett ♫
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♫ I first saw you and I wasn't so shy. ♫
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♫ Láttalak meg először és egyáltalán nem voltam megszeppenve. ♫
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I made a beeline for you and told you what a huge fan I was
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Egyenesen hozzád rohantam és elmondtam, mekkora rajongód vagyok.
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ever since I was writing that pilot for Fox, and Wendy
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Amióta megírtam azt a pilotot a Foxnak, és Wendy
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and I wanted you to do the theme song.
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és én azt akartuk, te írd a főcímzenét.
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And then the pilot didn't go and I was so sad,
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Aztán a pilot nem sikerült és olyan szomorú voltam,
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but I kept remaining a fan of yours.
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de a rajongód maradtam.
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And then when I went through that big, horrible breakup with Carl
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És amikor átmentem azon a katasztrofális szakításon Carllal
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and I couldn't get off the couch, I listened to your song,
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és nem tudtam felállni a szófáról, a számodat hallgattam,
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♫ "Now That I Don't Have You," ♫ over and over and over and over again.
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♫ "Most, hogy nem vagy nekem" ♫ újra és újra és újra.
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And I can't believe you're here and that I'm meeting you here at TED.
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És nem hiszem el, hogy itt vagy és itt találkozunk a TED-en.
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And also, I can't believe that we're eating sushi
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És nem hiszem el, hogy sushit eszünk
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in front of the fish tank,
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a nagy akvárium előtt,
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which, personally, I think is really inappropriate.
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ami szerintem nagyon helytelen.
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(Laughter)
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(Nevetés)
02:05
(Applause)
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(Taps)
02:06
And little did I know that one year later ... ♫ we'd be doing this show. ♫
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És akkor még nem tudthattam, hogy egy év múlva ... ♫ együtt csináljuk ezt. ♫
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♫ Sobule: I sing. Sweeney: I tell stories. Together: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Én énekelek. Sweeney: Én mesélek. Együtt: A Jill és Julia Show. ♫
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Sobule: Hey, they asked us back! Sweeney: Can you stand it?!
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Sobule: Hé, megint meghívtak! Sweeney: El tudjátok viselni?
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♫ Together: The Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Együtt: A Jill és Julia, a Jill és Julia, a Jill és Julia Show. ♫
02:26
♫ Sobule: Why are all our heroes so imperfect? ♫
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♫ Miért olyan esendő minden hősünk? ♫
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♫ Why do they always bring me down? ♫
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♫ Miért hangolnak mindig le? ♫
02:40
♫ Why are all our heroes so imperfect? ♫
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♫ Miért olyan esendő minden hősünk? ♫
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♫ Statue in the park has lost his crown. ♫
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♫ A szobor a parkban elvesztette a koronáját. ♫
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♫ William Faulkner, drunk and depressed. ♫ Sweeney: Mmm.
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♫ William Faulkner részeg és depressziós. ♫
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♫ Dorothy Parker, mean, drunk and depressed. ♫ Sweeney: I know.
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♫ Dorothy Parker gonosz, részeg és depressziós.♫
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♫ And that guy, "Seven Years in Tibet," turned out to be a Nazi. ♫ Sweeney: Yeah.
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♫ Az a pasi, Hét év Tibetben, kiderült, hogy náci. ♫
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♫ Founding fathers all had slaves. ♫ Sweeney: I know.
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♫ Az alapító atyák mind rabszolgát tartottak. ♫
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♫ The explorers slaughtered the braves. ♫ Sweeney: Horribly.
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♫ A felfedezők lemészárolták a bátrakat. ♫ Sweeney: Borzalmasan.
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♫ Sobule: The Old Testament God can be so petty. ♫
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♫ Az ótestamentumi Isten olyan kicsinyes. ♫
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Sweeney: Don't get me started on that. (Laughter)
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Sweeney: Ne is említsd!
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♫ Sobule: Paul McCartney, jealous of John, even more so now that he's gone. ♫
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♫ Paul McCartney féltékeny Johnra, még jobban most, hogy halott. ♫
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♫ Dylan was so mean to Donovan in that movie. ♫
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♫ Dylan olyan gonosz volt Donovannel abban a filmben. ♫
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♫ Pablo Picasso, cruel to his wives. ♫ Sweeney: Horrible.
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♫ Pablo Picasso, kegyetlen a feleségeivel. ♫ Sweeny: Borzasztó.
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♫ Sobule: My favorite poets took their own lives. ♫
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♫ A kedvenc költőim öngyilkosok lettek. ♫
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♫ Orson Welles peaked at twenty-five, below before our eyes. ♫
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♫ Orson Welles 25 évesen volt a csúcson, szemünk láttára fújódott fel. ♫
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♫ And he sold bad wine. ♫
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♫ És rossz bort árult. ♫
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♫ Together: Why are all our heroes so imperfect? Yeah ♫
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♫ Együtt: Miért olyan esendő minden hősünk? ♫
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♫ Why do they always bring me down? ♫
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♫ Miért hangolnak mindig le? ♫
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♫ Sobule: Heard Babe Ruth was full of malice. ♫ Sweeney: Oh.
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♫ Úgy hallottam Babe Ruth rosszindulatú volt. ♫
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♫ Lewis Carroll I'm sure did Alice. ♫ Sweeney: What?!
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♫ Lewis Caroll biztos megdugta Alice-t. ♫
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♫ Plato in the cave with those very young boys. ♫ Sweeney: Ooh...
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♫ Plato a barlangban azokkal a fiatal fiúkkal. ♫ Sweeney: Úúúú...
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♫ Sobule: Hillary supported the war. ♫
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♫ Hillary támogatta a háborút. ♫
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♫ Sweeney: Even Thomas Friedman supported the war. ♫ (Laughter)
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♫ Sweeney: Még Thomas Friedman is támogatta a háborút. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Colin Powell turned out to be ... Together: ... such a pussy. ♫ (Laughter) (Applause)
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♫ Colin Powellről kiderült, hogy totál beszari. ♫
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♫ Sobule: William Faulkner, drunk and depressed, ♫
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♫ William Faulkner részeg és depressziós. ♫
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♫ Tennessee Williams, drunk and depressed. ♫ Sweeney: Yeah.
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♫ Tennessee Williams részeg és depressziós. ♫
04:08
♫ Sobule: Take it, Julia. ♫
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Sobule: A tiéd, Julia!
04:10
Sweeney: Okay. Oprah was never necessarily a big hero of mine.
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Sweeney: OK. Oprah soha nem volt nagy hősöm.
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I mean, I watch Oprah mostly when I'm home in Spokane
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Úgy értem, akkor nézem Oprah-t, amikor otthon vagyok
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visiting my mother. And to my mother,
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anyámat látogatni. És anyámnak
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Oprah is a greater moral authority than the Pope,
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Oprah nagyobb erkölcsi tekintély a pápánál,
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which is actually saying something because she's a devout Catholic.
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ami mond valamit, mert anyám hívő katolikus.
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Anyway, I like Oprah -- I like her girlfriendy-ness,
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Szóval, szeretem Oprah-t. Szeretem a barátnősködését.
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I like her weight issues,
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Szeretem a testsúlyproblémáit.
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I like how she's transformed talk television,
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Szeretem, ahogy forradalmasította a beszélgetős műsort.
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I like how she's brought reading back to America --
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Szeretem, hogy visszahozta az olvasást Amerikába.
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but there was something that happened the last two weeks
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De valami történt az elmúlt két hétben,
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that was ... I call it the Soon-Yi moment:
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amit -- a Soon-Yi pillanatnak hívok.
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it is the moment when I cannot continue supporting someone.
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A pillanat, amelytől kezdve nem tudok támogatni valakit.
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And that was that she did two entire shows
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És ez az volt, hogy két teljes műsort
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promoting that movie "The Secret."
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szentelt 'A titok' népszerűsítésének.
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Do you guys know about that movie "The Secret"?
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Hallottatok 'A titok' c. filmről?
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It makes "What the Bleep Do We Know" seem like a doctoral dissertation
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Ehhez képest a 'Mi a csudát tudunk a Világról?' egy doktori disszertáció
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from Harvard on quantum mechanics -- that's how bad it is.
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a kvantummechanikáról a Harvardról -- ennyire rossz.
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It makes "The DaVinci Code" seem like "War and Peace."
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Ehhez képest 'A da Vinci kód' a 'Háború és béke'.
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That movie is so horrible. It promotes such awful pseudoscience.
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Ez a film annyira borzasztó. Olyan áltudományt hirdet.
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And the basic idea is
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Az alapötlet az,
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that there's this law of attraction, and
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hogy van ez a "Vonzás törvénye", és
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your thoughts have this vibrating energy
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a gondolataid energiával vibrálnak,
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that goes out into the universe
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ami kimegy az univerzumba
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and then you attract good things to happen to you.
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és jó dolgokat vonzol magadhoz.
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On a scientific basis, it's more than just "Power of Positive Thinking" --
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Tudományos alapon, ez több mint a "Pozitív gondolkodás ereje" --
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it has a horrible, horrible dark side. Like if you get ill,
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egy borzalmas, borzalmas sötét oldal. Pl. ha megbetegszel,
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it's because you've just been thinking negative thoughts.
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az azért van, mert negatív gondolataid voltak.
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Yeah, stuff like that was in the movie and she's promoting it.
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Igen, ilyenek voltak a filmben. És Oprah hirdeti.
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And all I'm saying is that I really wish that Murray Gell-Mann
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És csak annyit mondok, hogy bárcsak Murray Gell-Mann
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would go on Oprah
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elmenne Oprah műsorába
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and just explain to her that the law of attraction is, in fact, not a law.
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és elmagyarázná neki, hogy a "Vonzás törvénye" valójában nem is egy törvény.
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So that's what I have to say.
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Csak ezt akartam mondani.
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(Laughter)
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(Nevetés)
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(Applause)
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(Taps)
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♫ Sobule: I sing. Sweeney: I tell stories. Together: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Én énekelek. Sweeney: Én mesélek. Együtt: A Jill és Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Sometimes it works. Sweeney: Sometimes it doesn't. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Néha működik. Sweeney: Néha nem. ♫
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♫ Together: The Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia, the Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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♫ Együtt: A Jill és Julia, a Jill és Julia, a Jill és Julia Show. ♫
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(Applause)
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(Taps)
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Jill Sobule - Singer/songwriterJill Sobule isn't just another singer-songwriter with catchy tunes and smart lyrics, she's one of the more insightful satirists of our age. Each of her fanciful songs captures an issue or irony, an emotion or epiphany that helps us understand what it's like to live now.
Why you should listen
Jill Sobule first found her place in music history with the controversial 1995 hit "I Kissed a Girl." The song's silly sweetness masked its significance: It broke new ground as the first Top 40 hit to deal with overtly gay themes.
This approach -- packaging hard-hitting social commentary in a wrapper of whimsy -- has defined Sobule's career. Her endearing story-songs veer from fanciful storytelling to forceful satire and back again, covering a wide range of political and social issues from climate change to prostitution; anorexia to anti-semitism. Her winning combination of memorable characters, clever lyrics and catchy tunes has inspired comparisons that range from Burt Bacharach to Gertrude Stein. It also makes her performances and recordings a delight.
Sobule's candy-coated commentary can be found on her Huffington Post blog, as well as in her steady stream of stand-out albums, including Jill Sobule (1995), Happy Town (1997), Pink Pearl (2000) and Underdog Victorious (2004). Lately, Sobule has performed regularly with comedian Julia Sweeney (the two met at TED2006). They put on the "Jill and Julia Show," an utterly endearing evening of stories and songs. She's also recording an album with the string quartet Ethel (another TED2006 match).
Jill Sobule | Speaker | TED.com
Julia Sweeney - Actor, comedian, playwright
Julia Sweeney creates comedic works that tackle deep issues: cancer, family, faith.
Why you should listen
Julia Sweeney is a writer, director, actress, comedian and monologist. She is known for being a cast member on Saturday Night Live from 1990 to 1995, where she created and popularized the androgynous character, Pat. She is also well known for her comedic and dramatic monologues. God Said Ha! is a monologue about serious illness, her brother's lymphoma and her own cancer, and her family's crazy reactions to this crisis as they soldiered their way through struggle, confusion and death. This play was performed all over the U.S. and on Broadway at the Lyceum Theater. It was made into a film produced by Quentin Tarantino, and the comedy album from the show was nominated for a Grammy.
Sweeney's second monologue, In the Family Way, played in theatrical runs in New York and Los Angeles. It was ultimately fashioned into a book, a memoir titled If It's Not One Thing, It's Your Mother. Sweeney's third monologue, Letting Go of God, chronicled her journey from Catholicism to atheism. It was made into a film that played on Showtime.
Julia Sweeney | Speaker | TED.com