ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Jill Sobule - Singer/songwriter
Jill Sobule isn't just another singer-songwriter with catchy tunes and smart lyrics, she's one of the more insightful satirists of our age. Each of her fanciful songs captures an issue or irony, an emotion or epiphany that helps us understand what it's like to live now.

Why you should listen

Jill Sobule first found her place in music history with the controversial 1995 hit "I Kissed a Girl." The song's silly sweetness masked its significance: It broke new ground as the first Top 40 hit to deal with overtly gay themes.

This approach -- packaging hard-hitting social commentary in a wrapper of whimsy -- has defined Sobule's career. Her endearing story-songs veer from fanciful storytelling to forceful satire and back again, covering a wide range of political and social issues from climate change to prostitution; anorexia to anti-semitism. Her winning combination of memorable characters, clever lyrics and catchy tunes has inspired comparisons that range from Burt Bacharach to Gertrude Stein. It also makes her performances and recordings a delight.

Sobule's candy-coated commentary can be found on her Huffington Post blog, as well as in her steady stream of stand-out albums, including Jill Sobule (1995), Happy Town (1997), Pink Pearl (2000) and Underdog Victorious (2004). Lately, Sobule has performed regularly with comedian Julia Sweeney (the two met at TED2006). They put on the "Jill and Julia Show," an utterly endearing evening of stories and songs. She's also recording an album with the string quartet Ethel (another TED2006 match).

More profile about the speaker
Jill Sobule | Speaker | TED.com
Julia Sweeney - Actor, comedian, playwright
Julia Sweeney creates comedic works that tackle deep issues: cancer, family, faith.

Why you should listen

Julia Sweeney is a writer, director, actress, comedian and monologist. She is known for being a cast member on Saturday Night Live from 1990 to 1995, where she created and popularized the androgynous character, Pat. She is also well known for her comedic and dramatic monologues. God Said Ha! is a monologue about serious illness, her brother's lymphoma and her own cancer, and her family's crazy reactions to this crisis as they soldiered their way through struggle, confusion and death. This play was performed all over the U.S. and on Broadway at the Lyceum Theater. It was made into a film produced by Quentin Tarantino, and the comedy album from the show was nominated for a Grammy.

Sweeney's second monologue, In the Family Way, played in theatrical runs in New York and Los Angeles. It was ultimately fashioned into a book, a memoir titled If It's Not One Thing, It's Your Mother. Sweeney's third monologue, Letting Go of God, chronicled her journey from Catholicism to atheism. It was made into a film that played on Showtime.

More profile about the speaker
Julia Sweeney | Speaker | TED.com
TED2007

Jill Sobule + Julia Sweeney: The Jill and Julia Show

The Jill and Julia Show

Filmed:
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Due TEDsters affezionate, Jill Sobule e Julia Sweeney, hanno omaggiato il pubblico del TED con un breve spettacolo a metà tra musica e analisi sociale.
- Singer/songwriter
Jill Sobule isn't just another singer-songwriter with catchy tunes and smart lyrics, she's one of the more insightful satirists of our age. Each of her fanciful songs captures an issue or irony, an emotion or epiphany that helps us understand what it's like to live now. Full bio - Actor, comedian, playwright
Julia Sweeney creates comedic works that tackle deep issues: cancer, family, faith. Full bio

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JillJill SobuleSobule: At a conferenceconferenza in MontereyMonterey by the biggrande, biggrande jellyfishmeduse tankcarro armato, ♫
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♫ Alla conferenza di Monterey, vicino al grande acquario delle meduse, ♫
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♫ I first saw you and I got so shytimido. ♫
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♫ ti ho vista ed ero così timida. ♫
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♫ You see, I was a little paranoidParanoid 'causePerche ' I mightpotrebbe have been highalto. ♫
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♫ E un po' paranoica perché forse ero fatta. ♫
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♫ And I hadn'tnon aveva donefatto that in agesevo and I won'tnon lo farà do that again. ♫
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♫ Non lo avevo fatto da anni, e non lo rifarò più, ♫
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♫ But that's anotherun altro storystoria. ♫
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♫ Ma questa é un'altra storia. ♫
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LovedMi è piaciuto molto you foreverper sempre and I've been a biggrande fanfan, ♫
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♫ Ti ho sempre amata e sono stata una tua grande fan, ♫
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♫ the one-womandonna sola showsSpettacoli, I even rentedaffittato "PatPat." ♫
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♫ amo i tuoi show e ho persino noleggiato "Pat". ♫
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♫ I got enoughabbastanza nervenervo to come up to you, ♫
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♫ Mi feci abbastanza forza da venire da te, ♫
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♫ but little did I know one yearanno laterdopo we'dsaremmo be doing this showmostrare. ♫
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♫ e non potevo immaginare che un anno dopo avremmo fatto questo show. ♫
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♫ I singcantare. JuliaJulia SweeneySweeney: I tell storiesstorie. TogetherInsieme: The JillJill and JuliaJulia ShowVisualizza. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Io canto. Sweeney: Io racconto storie. Insieme: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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SobuleSobule: SometimesA volte it workslavori. SweeneySweeney: SometimesA volte it doesn't. ♫
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♫ Sobule: A volte funziona. Sweeney: A volte no. ♫
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TogetherInsieme: The JillJill and JuliaJulia ShowVisualizza. ♫
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♫ Insieme - The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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SweeneySweeney: At a conferenceconferenza in MontereyMonterey nextIl prossimo to the biggrande, biggrande jellyfishmeduse tankcarro armato, ♫
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♫ Sweeney: Alla conferenza di Monterey, vicino al grande acquario delle meduse, ♫
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♫ I first saw you and I wasn'tnon era so shytimido. ♫
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♫ ti ho vista, e non ero tanto timida. ♫
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I madefatto a beelineBeeline for you and told you what a hugeenorme fanfan I was
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Son venuta dritta da te e ti ho detto che grande tua fan fossi.
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ever sinceda I was writingscrittura that pilotpilota for FoxFox, and WendyWendy
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Fin da quando ho scritto quel pilot per la Fox
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and I wanted you to do the themetema songcanzone.
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e Wendy e io volevamo che facessi il tema musicale.
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And then the pilotpilota didn't go and I was so sadtriste,
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Poi il pilot non si fece, ed ero così triste,
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but I kepttenere remainingresiduo a fanfan of yoursil tuo.
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ma rimasi una tua fan.
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And then when I wentandato throughattraverso that biggrande, horribleorribile breakupscioglimento with CarlCarl
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E poi, quando ho rotto con Carl in quel modo orribile
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and I couldn'tnon poteva get off the couchdivano, I listenedascoltato to your songcanzone,
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e non riuscivo ad alzarmi dal divano, ascoltai
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♫ "Now That I Don't Have You," ♫ over and over and over and over again.
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la tua canzone, ♫ "Now that I don't have you" ♫ una volta dopo l'altra dopo l'altra dopo l'altra.
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And I can't believe you're here and that I'm meetingincontro you here at TEDTED.
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E non posso credere che tu sia qui e che ti sto incontrando al TED.
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And alsoanche, I can't believe that we're eatingmangiare sushiSushi
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E inoltre, non posso credere che stavamo mangiando sushi
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in frontdavanti of the fishpesce tankcarro armato,
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di fronte all'acquario,
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whichquale, personallypersonalmente, I think is really inappropriatenon appropriato.
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cosa che personalmente trovo inopportuna.
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(LaughterRisate)
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And little did I know that one yearanno laterdopo ... ♫ we'dsaremmo be doing this showmostrare. ♫
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E non potevo immaginare che un anno dopo... ♫ avremmo fatto questo show. ♫
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SobuleSobule: I singcantare. SweeneySweeney: I tell storiesstorie. TogetherInsieme: The JillJill and JuliaJulia ShowVisualizza. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Io canto. Sweeney: Io racconto storie. Insieme: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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SobuleSobule: Hey, they askedchiesto us back! SweeneySweeney: Can you standstare in piedi it?!
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Sobule: Ci hanno richiamate! Sweeney: Riesci a crederci?
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TogetherInsieme: The JillJill and JuliaJulia, the JillJill and JuliaJulia, the JillJill and JuliaJulia ShowVisualizza. ♫
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♫ Insieme: The Jill and Julia, The Jill and Julia, The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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SobuleSobule: Why are all our heroeseroi so imperfectimperfetto? ♫
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♫ Sobule: Perché i nostri eroi sono così imperfetti? ♫
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♫ Why do they always bringportare me down? ♫
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♫ Perchè mi deludono in continuazione? ♫
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♫ Why are all our heroeseroi so imperfectimperfetto? ♫
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♫ Perché i nostri eroi sono così imperfetti? ♫
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StatueStatua in the parkparco has lostperduto his crownCorona. ♫
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♫ La statua del parco ha perso la corona. ♫
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WilliamWilliam FaulknerFaulkner, drunkubriaco and depresseddepresso. ♫ SweeneySweeney: MmmMmm.
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♫ William Faulkner, ubriaco e depresso. ♫
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DorothyDorothy ParkerParker, mean, drunkubriaco and depresseddepresso. ♫ SweeneySweeney: I know.
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♫ Dorothy Parker cattiva, ubriaca e depressa. ♫ JS: Lo so.
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♫ And that guy, "SevenSette YearsAnni in TibetTibet," turnedtrasformato out to be a NaziNazista. ♫ SweeneySweeney: Yeah.
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♫ E l'autore di “Sette Anni in Tibet” si é rivelato un nazista. ♫ JS: Sì.
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FoundingFondazione fatherspadri all had slavesschiavi. ♫ SweeneySweeney: I know.
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♫ I Padri Fondatori avevano tutti degli schiavi. ♫ JS: Lo so.
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♫ The explorersesploratori slaughteredmacellati the bravesBraves. ♫ SweeneySweeney: HorriblyOrribilmente.
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♫ Gli esploratori hanno massacrato gli indiani. ♫ JS: Orribile.
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SobuleSobule: The OldVecchio TestamentTestamento God can be so pettymeschino. ♫
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♫ Il Dio precristiano poteva essere così cattivo. ♫
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SweeneySweeney: Don't get me startediniziato on that. (LaughterRisate)
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Sweeney: Non aprirmi questa porta.
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SobuleSobule: PaulPaolo McCartneyMcCartney, jealousgeloso of JohnJohn, even more so now that he's goneandato. ♫
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♫ Paul McCartney geloso di John, tanto più ora che é morto. ♫
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DylanDylan was so mean to DonovanDonovan in that moviefilm. ♫
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♫ Dylan era così cattivo con Donovan in quel film. ♫
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PabloPablo PicassoPicasso, cruelcrudele to his wivesmogli. ♫ SweeneySweeney: HorribleOrribile.
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♫ Pablo Picasso, crudele con le sue mogli. ♫ Sweeney: Orribile.
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SobuleSobule: My favoritefavorito poetsPoeti tookha preso theirloro ownproprio livesvite. ♫
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♫ I miei poeti preferiti si sono suicidati. ♫
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OrsonOrson WellesWelles peakedha raggiunto la posizione at twenty-fiveventicinque, belowsotto before our eyesocchi. ♫
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♫ Orson Welles sfondò a 25 anni, poi crollò davanti ai nostri occhi. ♫
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♫ And he soldvenduto badcattivo winevino. ♫
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♫ E vendeva vino adulterato. ♫
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TogetherInsieme: Why are all our heroeseroi so imperfectimperfetto? Yeah ♫
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♫ Insieme: Perché i nostri eroi sono così imperfetti, yeah? ♫
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♫ Why do they always bringportare me down? ♫
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♫ Perchè mi deludono in continuazione? ♫
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SobuleSobule: HeardSentito parlare BabeBabe RuthRuth was fullpieno of malicemalizia. ♫ SweeneySweeney: Oh.
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♫ Sobule: Ho sentito che Babe Ruth era un sadico. ♫
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LewisLewis CarrollCarroll I'm sure did AliceAlice. ♫ SweeneySweeney: What?!
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♫ Lewis Carrol si é fatto Alice. ♫ JS: Cosa!?
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PlatoPlatone in the caveGrotta with those very younggiovane boysragazzi. ♫ SweeneySweeney: OohOh...
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♫ Platone, nella caverna, con i ragazzini... ♫ Sweeney: Oohh.....
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SobuleSobule: HillaryHillary supportedsupportato the warguerra. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Hillary ha sostenuto la guerra. ♫
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SweeneySweeney: Even ThomasThomas FriedmanFriedman supportedsupportato the warguerra. ♫ (LaughterRisate)
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Sweeney: Anche Thomas Friedman ha sostenuto la guerra.
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SobuleSobule: ColinColin PowellPowell turnedtrasformato out to be ... TogetherInsieme: ... suchcome a pussymicio. ♫ (LaughterRisate) (ApplauseApplausi)
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♫ Sobule: Colin Powell si é rivelato... Insieme: un cacciaballe. ♫
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SobuleSobule: WilliamWilliam FaulknerFaulkner, drunkubriaco and depresseddepresso, ♫
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♫ Sobule: William Faulkner, ubriaco e depresso, ♫
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TennesseeTennessee WilliamsWilliams, drunkubriaco and depresseddepresso. ♫ SweeneySweeney: Yeah.
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♫ Tennesse Williams, ubriaco e depresso. ♫ JS: Sì.
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SobuleSobule: Take it, JuliaJulia. ♫
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Sobule: A te, Julia.
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SweeneySweeney: Okay. OprahOprah was never necessarilynecessariamente a biggrande heroeroe of mineil mio.
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Sweeney: Ok. Oprah non é mai stata proprio un mio grande eroe.
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I mean, I watch OprahOprah mostlysoprattutto when I'm home in SpokaneSpokane
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Voglio dire, io guardo Oprah soprattutto quando vado a Spokane
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visitingvisitare my mothermadre. And to my mothermadre,
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a trovare mia madre. E per mia madre,
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OprahOprah is a greatermaggiore moralmorale authorityautorità than the PopePapa,
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Oprah é un'autorità morale superiore al Papa,
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whichquale is actuallyin realtà sayingdetto something because she's a devoutdevoto CatholicCattolica.
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Il che é tutto dire, perché é una cattolica devota.
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AnywayIn ogni caso, I like OprahOprah -- I like her girlfriendy-nessfidanzatino-ness,
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Comunque... Mi piace Oprah, mi piace il suo modo amichevole.
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I like her weightpeso issuesproblemi,
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Mi piacciono i suoi discorsi sul peso.
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I like how she's transformedtrasformato talk televisiontelevisione,
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Mi piace come ha trasformato i talk americani.
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I like how she's broughtportato readinglettura back to AmericaAmerica --
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Mi piace come ha riportato l'America a leggere.
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but there was something that happenedè accaduto the last two weekssettimane
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Ma é successa una cosa, nelle ultime due settimane,
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that was ... I call it the Soon-YiSoon-Yi momentmomento:
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che é stata -- la chiamo il mio "Momento Soon-Yi".
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it is the momentmomento when I cannotnon può continueContinua supportingsupporto someonequalcuno.
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E' il momento in cui ti rendi conto che non puoi continuare a sostenere qualcuno.
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And that was that she did two entireintero showsSpettacoli
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Oprah ha dedicato due puntate intere
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promotingpromuovere that moviefilm "The SecretSegreto."
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a promuovere quel film, "The Secret".
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Do you guys know about that moviefilm "The SecretSegreto"?
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Lo conoscete, gente?
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It makesfa "What the Bleep"Bip" Do We Know" seemsembrare like a doctoraldottorato dissertationdissertazione
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Al confronto "Ma che... Bip... Sappiamo Veramente!?" sembra una lezione
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from HarvardHarvard on quantumquantistico mechanicsmeccanica -- that's how badcattivo it is.
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di Harvard sulla meccanica quantistica, tanto fa schifo.
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It makesfa "The DaVinciDaVinci CodeCodice" seemsembrare like "WarGuerra and PeacePace."
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"Il codice da Vinci" sembra "Guerra e pace".
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That moviefilm is so horribleorribile. It promotespromuove suchcome awfulterribile pseudosciencepseudoscienza.
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Quel film é così orribile. Promuove pseudo-scienza da strapazzo.
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And the basicdi base ideaidea is
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L'idea di base é
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that there's this lawlegge of attractionattrazione, and
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che c'è questa "Legge dell'Attrazione" e
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your thoughtspensieri have this vibratingvibrazione energyenergia
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i tuoi pensieri hanno questa energia vibrante
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that goesva out into the universeuniverso
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che esce nell'Universo
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and then you attractattirare good things to happenaccadere to you.
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e attrae a te le cose buone.
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On a scientificscientifico basisbase, it's more than just "PowerPotenza of PositivePositivo ThinkingPensando" --
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it has a horribleorribile, horribleorribile darkbuio sidelato. Like if you get illmalato,
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ed ha un risvolto orribile, orribile. A questa stregua se ti ammali,
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it's because you've just been thinkingpensiero negativenegativo thoughtspensieri.
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é perché pensavi pensieri negativi.
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Yeah, stuffcose like that was in the moviefilm and she's promotingpromuovere it.
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Ecco. Porcheria simile. Era nel film. E lei lo promuoveva.
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And all I'm sayingdetto is that I really wishdesiderio that MurrayMurray Gell-MannGell-Mann
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would go on OprahOprah
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and just explainspiegare to her that the lawlegge of attractionattrazione is, in factfatto, not a lawlegge.
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a spiegarle che la "Legge dell'Attrazione" non é, in effetti, una legge.
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So that's what I have to say.
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Ecco, dovevo dirlo.
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SobuleSobule: I singcantare. SweeneySweeney: I tell storiesstorie. TogetherInsieme: The JillJill and JuliaJulia ShowVisualizza. ♫
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♫ Sobule: Io canto. Sweeney: Io racconto storie. Insieme: The Jill and Julia Show. ♫
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SobuleSobule: SometimesA volte it workslavori. SweeneySweeney: SometimesA volte it doesn't. ♫
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♫ Sobule: A volte funziona. Sweeney: A volte no. ♫
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TogetherInsieme: The JillJill and JuliaJulia, the JillJill and JuliaJulia, the JillJill and JuliaJulia ShowVisualizza. ♫
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Translated by Michele Gianella
Reviewed by Barbara Casarini

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ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Jill Sobule - Singer/songwriter
Jill Sobule isn't just another singer-songwriter with catchy tunes and smart lyrics, she's one of the more insightful satirists of our age. Each of her fanciful songs captures an issue or irony, an emotion or epiphany that helps us understand what it's like to live now.

Why you should listen

Jill Sobule first found her place in music history with the controversial 1995 hit "I Kissed a Girl." The song's silly sweetness masked its significance: It broke new ground as the first Top 40 hit to deal with overtly gay themes.

This approach -- packaging hard-hitting social commentary in a wrapper of whimsy -- has defined Sobule's career. Her endearing story-songs veer from fanciful storytelling to forceful satire and back again, covering a wide range of political and social issues from climate change to prostitution; anorexia to anti-semitism. Her winning combination of memorable characters, clever lyrics and catchy tunes has inspired comparisons that range from Burt Bacharach to Gertrude Stein. It also makes her performances and recordings a delight.

Sobule's candy-coated commentary can be found on her Huffington Post blog, as well as in her steady stream of stand-out albums, including Jill Sobule (1995), Happy Town (1997), Pink Pearl (2000) and Underdog Victorious (2004). Lately, Sobule has performed regularly with comedian Julia Sweeney (the two met at TED2006). They put on the "Jill and Julia Show," an utterly endearing evening of stories and songs. She's also recording an album with the string quartet Ethel (another TED2006 match).

More profile about the speaker
Jill Sobule | Speaker | TED.com
Julia Sweeney - Actor, comedian, playwright
Julia Sweeney creates comedic works that tackle deep issues: cancer, family, faith.

Why you should listen

Julia Sweeney is a writer, director, actress, comedian and monologist. She is known for being a cast member on Saturday Night Live from 1990 to 1995, where she created and popularized the androgynous character, Pat. She is also well known for her comedic and dramatic monologues. God Said Ha! is a monologue about serious illness, her brother's lymphoma and her own cancer, and her family's crazy reactions to this crisis as they soldiered their way through struggle, confusion and death. This play was performed all over the U.S. and on Broadway at the Lyceum Theater. It was made into a film produced by Quentin Tarantino, and the comedy album from the show was nominated for a Grammy.

Sweeney's second monologue, In the Family Way, played in theatrical runs in New York and Los Angeles. It was ultimately fashioned into a book, a memoir titled If It's Not One Thing, It's Your Mother. Sweeney's third monologue, Letting Go of God, chronicled her journey from Catholicism to atheism. It was made into a film that played on Showtime.

More profile about the speaker
Julia Sweeney | Speaker | TED.com