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Robin Steinberg: What if we ended the injustice of bail?
Robin Stajnberg (Robin Steinberg): Šta ako bismo zaustavili nepravdu kaucije?
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Svake noći, više od 450.000 ljudi u Sjedinjenim Državama zaključano je u zatvorima samo zato što nemaju dovoljno novca da plate kauciju. Često su u pitanju sume od oko 500 dolara: neki ogu lako da ih plate, drugi nikako. Ovo ima stvarne ljudske posledice - ljudi gube poslove, domove, živote, i stvara se ogromna nejednakost u pravnom sistemu. Robin Stajnberg ima hrabru ideju da ovo promeni. U ovom moćnom govoru, ona predstavlja plan za Projekat kaucije - neočekivani, nacionalni fond za kauciju koji se obrće, za borbu protiv masovnog zatvaranja. Njen ambiciozan plan je jedna od prvih ideja programa "Audacious Project", nove TED-ove inicijative koja inspiriše globalne promene.
Robin Steinberg - Public defender, activist
Robin Steinberg is the CEO of The Bail Project, a new organization designed to combat mass incarceration in the United States by disrupting the money bail system -- one person at a time. As she says: "I hate injustice and simply can't sit still when I see it." Full bio
Robin Steinberg is the CEO of The Bail Project, a new organization designed to combat mass incarceration in the United States by disrupting the money bail system -- one person at a time. As she says: "I hate injustice and simply can't sit still when I see it." Full bio
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00:12
I will never forget the first time
I visited a client in jail.
I visited a client in jail.
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Nikada neću zaboraviti kada sam
prvi put posetila klijenta u zatvoru.
prvi put posetila klijenta u zatvoru.
00:17
The heavy, metal door slammed behind me,
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Teška, metalna vrata
su se zalupila za mnom
su se zalupila za mnom
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and I heard the key turn in the lock.
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i čula sam kako se ključ okreće u bravi.
00:22
The cement floor underneath me
had a sticky film on it
had a sticky film on it
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Cementni pod ispod mene
je imao neki lepljivi sloj
je imao neki lepljivi sloj
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that made a ripping sound,
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koji je pravio zvuk cepanja,
00:27
like tape being pulled off a box,
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kao kad se selotejp odlepljuje sa kutije,
00:29
every time I moved my foot.
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svaki put kada sam pomerala stopala.
00:31
The only connection to the outside world
was a small window placed too high to see.
was a small window placed too high to see.
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Jedina veza sa spoljašnjim svetom bio je
mali prozor, previsoko da bi se video.
mali prozor, previsoko da bi se video.
00:37
There was a small, square table
bolted to the floor
bolted to the floor
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Tu je bio mali, četvrtasti sto,
zašrafljen za pod
zašrafljen za pod
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and two metal chairs,
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i dve metalne stolice,
00:41
one on either side.
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po jedna sa svake strane.
00:44
That was the first time
I understood viscerally --
I understood viscerally --
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To je bilo prvi put
da sam emotivno razumela -
da sam emotivno razumela -
00:47
just for a fleeting moment --
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samo u tom kratkom trenutku -
00:50
what incarceration might feel like.
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kakav je osećaj biti zatvoren.
00:52
And I promised myself all those years ago
as a young, public defender
as a young, public defender
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I obećala sam sebi pre toliko godina
kao mladi javni branilac,
kao mladi javni branilac,
00:56
that I would never,
ever forget that feeling.
ever forget that feeling.
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da nikada neću zaboraviti taj osećaj.
01:00
And I never have.
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I nisam.
01:02
It inspired me to fight for each
and every one of my clients' freedom
and every one of my clients' freedom
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On me je inspirisao da se za slobodu
svakog mog klijenta
svakog mog klijenta
01:05
as if it was my own.
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borim kao da je u pitanju moja.
01:09
Freedom.
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Sloboda.
01:10
A concept so fundamental
to the American psyche
to the American psyche
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Taj koncept je toliko urezan
u američku psihu,
u američku psihu,
01:14
that it is enshrined in our constitution.
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da je utkan u naš Ustav.
01:17
And yet, America is addicted
to imprisonment.
to imprisonment.
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A ipak, Amerika je navučena na zatvaranje.
01:22
From slavery through mass incarceration,
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Od ropstva do masovnog zatvaranja,
01:25
it always has been.
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uvek je bila.
01:27
Look, we all know the shocking numbers.
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Vidite, svi znamo šokantne brojeve.
01:30
The United States incarcerates
more people per capita
more people per capita
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Sjedinjene Države zatvaraju
više ljudi po glavi stanovnika
više ljudi po glavi stanovnika
01:33
than almost any nation on the planet.
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nego skoro bilo koja nacija na planeti.
01:36
But what you may not know
is that on any given night in America,
is that on any given night in America,
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Ali možda ne znate da svake noći u Americi
01:41
almost half a million people go to sleep
in those concrete jail cells
in those concrete jail cells
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u tim betonskim ćelijama
spava skoro pola miliona ljudi
spava skoro pola miliona ljudi
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who have not been convicted of anything.
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koji nisu osuđeni nizašta.
01:49
These mothers and fathers
and sons and daughters
and sons and daughters
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Te majke i očevi i sinovi i ćerke
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are there for one reason
and one reason only:
and one reason only:
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su tamo samo iz jednog razloga:
01:57
they cannot afford to pay
the price of their freedom.
the price of their freedom.
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ne mogu da priušte da plate
cenu svoje slobode.
cenu svoje slobode.
02:01
And that price is called bail.
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A ta cena zove se kaucija.
02:05
Now, bail was actually created
as a form of conditional release.
as a form of conditional release.
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Kaucija je stvorena kao oblik
uslovnog puštanja na slobodu.
uslovnog puštanja na slobodu.
02:09
The theory was simple:
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Teorija je bila jednostavna:
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set bail at an amount
that somebody could afford to pay --
that somebody could afford to pay --
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odrediti kauciju na sumu
koju neko može da priušti,
koju neko može da priušti,
02:13
they would pay it --
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oni bi je platili,
02:14
it would give them an incentive
to come back to court;
to come back to court;
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imali bi motiv da se vrate na sud,
02:16
it would give them some skin in the game.
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tako bi imali malo udela u svemu tome.
02:18
Bail was never intended
to be used as punishment.
to be used as punishment.
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Nikada nije bila namera
da kaucija služi kao kazna
da kaucija služi kao kazna
02:22
Bail was never intended
to hold people in jail cells.
to hold people in jail cells.
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niti da drži ljude u zatvorima.
02:26
And bail was never, ever intended
to create a two-tier system of justice:
to create a two-tier system of justice:
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I nikada, nikada nije bila namera
da kaucija stvori dvostruki pravni sistem:
da kaucija stvori dvostruki pravni sistem:
02:32
one for the rich
and one for everybody else.
and one for everybody else.
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jedan za bogate i drugi za sve ostale.
02:36
But that is precisely what it has done.
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Ali upravo to se desilo.
02:39
75 percent of people
in American local jails
in American local jails
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Sedamdesetpet procenata ljudi
je u američkim lokalnim zatvorima
je u američkim lokalnim zatvorima
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are there because they cannot pay bail.
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samo zato što ne mogu da plate kauciju.
02:46
People like Ramel.
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Ljudi kao što je Ramel.
02:48
On a chilly October afternoon,
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Jednog hladnog oktobarskog popodneva,
02:50
Ramel was riding his bicycle
in his South Bronx neighborhood
in his South Bronx neighborhood
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Ramel je vozio bicikl u svom kraju
u Južnom Bronksu
u Južnom Bronksu
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on his way to a market
to pick up a quart of milk.
to pick up a quart of milk.
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na putu do prodavnice da kupi mleko.
02:55
He was stopped by the police.
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Zaustavila ga je policija.
02:57
And when he demanded to know
why he was being stopped,
why he was being stopped,
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I kada je zahtevao da mu kažu
zašto su ga zaustavili,
zašto su ga zaustavili,
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an argument ensued,
and the next thing he knew,
and the next thing he knew,
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usledila je rasprava i potom
03:02
he was on the ground in handcuffs,
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se našao na zemlji sa lisicama na rukama,
03:04
being charged with "riding
your bicycle on the sidewalk
your bicycle on the sidewalk
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pod optužbom da je
"vozio bicikl na trotoaru
"vozio bicikl na trotoaru
03:07
and resisting arrest."
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i opirao se hapšenju".
03:08
He was taken to court,
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Odveden je na sud
03:10
where a judge set 500 dollars bail.
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gde je sudija odredio
kauciju od 500 dolara.
kauciju od 500 dolara.
03:12
But Ramel -- he didn't have 500 dollars.
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Ali Ramel nije imao 500 dolara.
03:16
So this 32-year-old father
was sent to "The Boat" --
was sent to "The Boat" --
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Tako je ovaj 32-godišnji otac
poslat na "Brod" -
poslat na "Brod" -
03:19
a floating jail barge
that sits on the East River
that sits on the East River
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plutajuću baržu-zatvor
koja se nalazi na Ist Riveru
koja se nalazi na Ist Riveru
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between a sewage plant and a fish market.
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između kanalizacionog postrojenja
i riblje pijace.
i riblje pijace.
03:27
That's right, you heard me.
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Tako je, dobro ste čuli.
03:29
In New York City, in 2018,
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U Njujorku u 2018.
03:32
we have a floating prison barge
that sits out there
that sits out there
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imamo plutajuću baržu-zatvor
koja se nalazi tamo
koja se nalazi tamo
03:36
and houses primarily black and brown men
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i u njoj se smeštaju uglavnom
crni i tamnoputi muškarci
crni i tamnoputi muškarci
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who cannot pay their bail.
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koji ne mogu da plate kauciju.
03:43
Let's talk for a moment
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Hajde da za trenutak govorimo
03:45
about what it means to be in jail
even for a few days.
even for a few days.
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o tome šta znači biti u zatvoru,
čak i samo nekoliko dana.
čak i samo nekoliko dana.
03:49
Well, it can mean losing your job,
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Može da znači da ćete izgubiti posao,
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losing your home,
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da ćete izgubiti dom,
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jeopardizing your immigration status.
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da će vam imigrantski status biti ugrožen.
03:56
It may even mean
losing custody of your children.
losing custody of your children.
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Može čak da znači da ćete izgubiti
starateljstvo nad svojom decom.
starateljstvo nad svojom decom.
03:59
A third of sexual
victimization by jail staff
victimization by jail staff
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Trećina seksualnih napada
koju izvrši zatvorsko osoblje
koju izvrši zatvorsko osoblje
04:02
happens in the first three days in jail,
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desi se u roku od prva tri dana u zatvoru,
04:05
and almost half of all jail deaths,
including suicides,
including suicides,
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a skoro polovina svih smrti u zatvoru,
uključujući samoubistva,
uključujući samoubistva,
desi se tokom te prve nedelje.
04:09
happen in that first week.
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04:11
What's more,
if you're held in jail on bail,
if you're held in jail on bail,
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Štaviše, ako ste u zatvoru na kauciji,
04:14
you're four times more likely
to get a jail sentence
to get a jail sentence
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šanse da dobijete zatvorsku kaznu
su četiri puta veće
su četiri puta veće
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than if you had been free,
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nego da ste slobodni,
04:19
and that jail sentence
will be three times longer.
will be three times longer.
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a ta kazna će biti tri puta duža.
04:23
And if you are black or Latino
and cash bail has been set,
and cash bail has been set,
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A ako ste crnac ili latinoamerikanac
i određena vam je kaucija,
i određena vam je kaucija,
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you are two times more likely
to remain stuck in that jail cell
to remain stuck in that jail cell
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verovatnoća da ćete ostati u zatvoru
je dva puta veća
je dva puta veća
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than if you were white.
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nego da ste belac.
04:34
Jail in America is a terrifying,
dehumanizing and violent experience.
dehumanizing and violent experience.
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Zatvor u Americi je užasno,
dehumanizujuće i nasilno iskustvo.
dehumanizujuće i nasilno iskustvo.
04:41
Now imagine for just one moment
that it's you stuck in that jail cell,
that it's you stuck in that jail cell,
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Sad na tren zamislite da ste vi
u toj zatvorskoj ćeliji
u toj zatvorskoj ćeliji
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and you don't have
the 500 dollars to get out.
the 500 dollars to get out.
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i da nemate 500 dolara da izađete.
04:51
And someone comes along
and offers you a way out.
and offers you a way out.
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I pojavi se neko ko vam ponudi izlaz.
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"Just plead guilty," they say.
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"Samo priznaj krivicu", kaže.
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"You can go home back to your job.
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"Možeš da se vratiš kući, svom poslu.
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Just plead guilty.
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Samo priznaj.
05:03
You can kiss your kids goodnight tonight."
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Možeš večeras
da poljubiš decu za laku noć."
da poljubiš decu za laku noć."
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So you do what anybody
would do in that situation.
would do in that situation.
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I uradite ono što bi bilo ko
u toj situaciji uradio.
u toj situaciji uradio.
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You plead guilty
whether you did it or not.
whether you did it or not.
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Priznate krivicu,
bez obzira da li ste to uradili.
bez obzira da li ste to uradili.
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But now you have a criminal record
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Ali sada imate krivični dosije
05:15
that's going to follow you
for the rest of your life.
for the rest of your life.
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koji će vas pratiti tokom celog života.
05:19
Jailing people because they don't have
enough money to pay bail
enough money to pay bail
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Zatvaranje ljudi jer nemaju para
da plate kauciju
da plate kauciju
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is one of the most unfair,
immoral things we do as a society.
immoral things we do as a society.
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je jedna od najmanje fer i najnemoralnijih
stvari koje kao društvo radimo.
stvari koje kao društvo radimo.
05:27
But it is also expensive
and counterproductive.
and counterproductive.
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Takođe je skupo i kontraproduktivno.
05:31
American taxpayers --
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Američki poreski obveznici
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they spend 14 billion dollars annually
holding people in jail cells
holding people in jail cells
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troše 14 milijardi dolara godišnje
na držanje ljudi u zatvorima,
na držanje ljudi u zatvorima,
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who haven't been convicted of anything.
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ljudi koji nisu osuđeni nizašta.
05:39
That's 40 million dollars a day.
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To je 40 miliona dolara dnevno.
05:42
What's perhaps more confounding
is it doesn't make us any safer.
is it doesn't make us any safer.
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Ono što još više zbunjuje,
je da nas to ne čini bezbednijim.
je da nas to ne čini bezbednijim.
05:46
Research is clear
that holding somebody in jail
that holding somebody in jail
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Istraživanja jasno kažu
da držanje nekog u zatvoru
da držanje nekog u zatvoru
05:49
makes you significantly more likely
to commit a crime when you get out
to commit a crime when you get out
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povećava šansu da on počini zločin
kada iz zatvora izađe,
kada iz zatvora izađe,
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than if you had been free all along.
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nego da je bio slobodan sve vreme.
05:58
Freedom makes all the difference.
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Sloboda je od velikog značaja.
06:03
Low-income communities
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Siromašne i obojene zajednice
06:04
and communities of color
have known that for generations.
have known that for generations.
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to znaju već generacijama.
06:08
Together, they have pooled their resources
to buy their loved ones freedom
to buy their loved ones freedom
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Zajedno, one su udružile resurse
da otkupe slobodu svojih voljenih
da otkupe slobodu svojih voljenih
06:13
for as long as bondage
and jail cells existed.
and jail cells existed.
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od kada zatvori postoje.
06:17
But the reach of the criminal legal system
has grown too enormous,
has grown too enormous,
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Ali doseg pravnog sistema je ogroman
06:21
and the numbers have just too large.
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i brojevi su preveliki.
06:23
99 percent of jail growth in America
has been the result --
has been the result --
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Devedesetdevet odsto porasta
zatvora u Americi je rezultat -
zatvora u Americi je rezultat -
06:28
over the last 20 years --
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tokom poslednjih 20 godina -
06:30
of pre-trial incarceration.
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zatvaranja pre suđenja.
06:34
I have been a public defender
for over half my life,
for over half my life,
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Ja sam javni branilac
više od polovine svog života
više od polovine svog života
06:37
and I have stood by and watched
thousands of clients
thousands of clients
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i stajala sam i gledala hiljade klijenata
06:40
as they were dragged into those jail cells
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koje su odvlačili u te zatvorske ćelije
06:43
because they didn't have
enough money to pay bail.
enough money to pay bail.
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jer nisu imali dovoljno novca
da plate kauciju.
da plate kauciju.
06:45
I have watched as questions of justice
were subsumed by questions of money,
were subsumed by questions of money,
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Gledala sam dok su pitanja pravde
gažena pitanjima novca,
gažena pitanjima novca,
06:49
calling into question the legitimacy
of the entire American legal system.
of the entire American legal system.
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dovodeći u pitanje legitimnost
celog američkog pravnog sistema.
celog američkog pravnog sistema.
06:55
I am here to say something simple --
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Ovde sam da kažem nešto jednostavno -
06:58
something obvious,
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nešto očigledno,
07:00
but something urgent.
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ali nešto hitno.
07:02
Freedom makes all the difference,
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Sloboda igra veliku ulogu,
07:06
and freedom should be free.
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i ona bi trebalo da bude besplatna.
07:09
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
07:17
But how are we going to make that happen?
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Ali kako ćemo to da omogućimo?
07:20
Well, that's the question
I was wrestling with over a decade ago
I was wrestling with over a decade ago
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Pa, s tim pitanjem sam se borila
pre više od decenije,
pre više od decenije,
07:23
when I was sitting at a kitchen table
with my husband, David,
with my husband, David,
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kada sam sedela za kuhinjskim stolom
sa svojim mužem, Dejvidom,
sa svojim mužem, Dejvidom,
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who is also a public defender.
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koji je takođe javni branilac.
07:27
We were eating our Chinese takeout
and venting about the injustice of it all
and venting about the injustice of it all
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Jeli smo dostavljenu kinesku hranu
i jadali se o nepravdi svega
i jadali se o nepravdi svega
07:31
when David looked up and said,
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kad je Dejvid rekao:
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"Why don't we just start a bail fund,
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"Zašto ne bismo osnovali fond za kauciju
07:35
and just start bailing
our clients out of jail?"
our clients out of jail?"
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i počeli da izvlačimo
svoje klijente iz zatvora?"
svoje klijente iz zatvora?"
07:38
And in that unexpected moment,
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I u tom neočekivanom trenutku,
07:41
the idea for the Bronx
Freedom Fund was born.
Freedom Fund was born.
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rođena je ideja za Fond slobode Bronksa.
07:45
Look, we didn't know what to expect.
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Vidite, nismo znali šta da očekujemo.
07:47
There were plenty of people
that told us we were crazy
that told us we were crazy
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Mnog ljudi su nam rekli da smo ludi
07:49
and we were going
to lose all of the money.
to lose all of the money.
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i da ćemo izgubiti sav novac.
07:51
People wouldn't come back
because they didn't have any stake in it.
because they didn't have any stake in it.
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Ljudi se neće vratiti jer nemaju interesa.
07:54
But what if clients did come back?
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Ali šta ako se klijenti vrate?
07:57
We knew that bail money comes back
at the end of a criminal case,
at the end of a criminal case,
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Znali smo da se novac za kauciju
vraća na kraju kriminalnog slučaja,
vraća na kraju kriminalnog slučaja,
08:01
so it could come back into the fund,
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pa bi mogao da se vrati u fond
08:04
and we could use it over and over again
for more and more bail.
for more and more bail.
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i mogli bismo da ga koristimo
iznova i iznova za još kaucija.
iznova i iznova za još kaucija.
08:08
That was our big bet,
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Na to smo se kladili
08:09
and that bet paid off.
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i ta se opklada isplatila.
08:12
Over the past 10 years,
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Tokom poslednjih 10 godina,
08:13
we have been paying bails for low-income
residents of New York City,
residents of New York City,
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plaćamo kaucije za siromašne
stanovnike Njujorka,
stanovnike Njujorka,
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and what we have learned
has exploded our ideas
has exploded our ideas
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i ono što smo naučili,
promenilo je naše ideje
promenilo je naše ideje
08:21
of why people come back to court
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o tome zašto se ljudi vraćaju na sud
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and how the criminal
legal system itself is operated.
legal system itself is operated.
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i kako sam pravni sistem funkcioniše.
08:26
Turns out money isn't what makes
people come back to court.
people come back to court.
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Ispostavlja se da se ljudi
ne vraćaju na sud zbog novca.
ne vraćaju na sud zbog novca.
08:30
We know this because when
the Bronx Freedom Fund pays bail,
the Bronx Freedom Fund pays bail,
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Ovo znamo, jer kad Fond
slobode Bronksa plati kauciju,
slobode Bronksa plati kauciju,
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96 percent of clients
return for every court appearance,
return for every court appearance,
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96 odsto klijenata
se vraća na svaki sudski poziv,
se vraća na svaki sudski poziv,
08:37
laying waste to the myth
that it's money that mattered.
that it's money that mattered.
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i tako opovrgava mit
da je novac jedini važan.
da je novac jedini važan.
08:41
It's powerful evidence
that we don't need cash
that we don't need cash
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To je moćan dokaz da nam nisu potrebni keš
08:46
or ankle bracelets
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ili narukvice za članak
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or unnecessary systems
of surveillance and supervision.
of surveillance and supervision.
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ili nepotrebni sistemi
prismotre i nadgledanja.
prismotre i nadgledanja.
08:50
We simply need court reminders --
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Samo su nam potrebni podsetnici za sud -
08:53
simple court reminders
about when to come back to court.
about when to come back to court.
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jednostavni podsetnici -
kada se vratiti na sud.
kada se vratiti na sud.
08:57
Next, we learned that if you're held
in jail on a misdemeanor,
in jail on a misdemeanor,
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Sledeće što smo saznali je da,
ako ste u zatvoru za prekršaj,
ako ste u zatvoru za prekršaj,
09:01
90 percent of people will plead guilty.
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90 odsto ljudi će priznati krivicu.
09:04
But when the fund pays bail,
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Ali ako fond plati kauciju,
09:06
over half the cases are dismissed.
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preko polovine tih slučajeva
biva odbačeno.
biva odbačeno.
09:10
And in the entire history
of the Bronx Freedom Fund,
of the Bronx Freedom Fund,
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I u celoj istoriji Fonda slobode Bronksa,
09:14
fewer than two percent of our clients
have ever received a jail sentence
have ever received a jail sentence
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manje od dva odsto naših klijenata
je ikada dobilo zatvorsku kaznu
je ikada dobilo zatvorsku kaznu
09:19
of any kind.
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bilo koje vrste.
09:20
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
09:28
Ramel, a week later --
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Remel, nedelju dana kasnije -
09:31
he was still on the boat,
locked in that jail cell.
locked in that jail cell.
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još uvek je bio na brodu,
zaključan u toj zatvorskoj ćeliji.
zaključan u toj zatvorskoj ćeliji.
09:34
He was on the cusp of losing everything,
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Bio je na ivici da sve izgubi
09:36
and he was about to plead guilty,
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i zamalo da je priznao krivicu,
09:38
and the Bronx Freedom Fund
intervened and paid his bail.
intervened and paid his bail.
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kada je Fond slobode Bronksa
intervenisao i platio kauciju.
intervenisao i platio kauciju.
09:42
Now, reunited with his daughter,
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Sada, ponovo sa svojom ćerkom,
09:44
he was able to fight
his case from outside.
his case from outside.
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mogao je da se bori sa slobode.
09:46
Look, it took some time --
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Vidite, bilo je potrebno neko vreme -
09:48
two years, to be exact --
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da budem tačna, dve godine -
09:50
but at the end of that,
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ali na kraju svega,
09:51
his case was dismissed in its entirety.
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njegov slučaj je u potpunosti odbačen.
09:54
For Ramel --
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Za Ramela -
09:56
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
10:01
For Ramel, the Bronx
Freedom Fund was a lifeline,
Freedom Fund was a lifeline,
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Za Ramela, Fond slobode Bronksa
je bio slamka spasa
je bio slamka spasa
10:06
but for countless other Americans
locked in jail cells,
locked in jail cells,
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ali za brojne druge Amerikance
zaključane u ćelijama
zaključane u ćelijama
10:08
there is no freedom fund coming.
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ne postoji fond slobode.
10:11
It's time to do something about that.
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Vreme je da se uradi nešto po tom pitanju.
10:14
It's time to do something big.
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Vreme je da se uradi nešto veliko.
10:16
It's time to do something bold.
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Vreme je da se uradi nešto smelo.
10:19
It's time to do something,
maybe, audacious?
maybe, audacious?
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Vreme je da se uradi
nešto, možda, odvažno?
nešto, možda, odvažno?
10:22
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
10:23
We want to take our proven,
revolving bail-fund model
revolving bail-fund model
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Želimo da naš dokazani model
obrtnog fonda za kauciju,
obrtnog fonda za kauciju,
10:26
that we built in the Bronx
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koji smo razvili u Bronksu,
10:28
and spread it across America,
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proširimo širom Amerike,
10:30
attacking the front end
of the legal system
of the legal system
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napadajući prvu liniju pravnog sistema,
10:32
before incarceration begins.
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pre nego što zatvaranje počne.
10:34
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
10:36
(Cheers)
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(Ovacije)
10:39
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
10:45
Here's the plan.
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Evo plana.
10:46
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
10:48
We're going to bail out
as many people as we can
as many people as we can
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Platićemo kauciju za što više ljudi možemo
10:50
as quickly as we can.
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što brže možemo.
10:51
Over the next five years,
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Tokom narednih pet godina,
10:52
partnering with public defenders
and local community organizations,
and local community organizations,
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u partnerstvu sa javnim braniocima
i lokalnim organizacijama,
i lokalnim organizacijama,
10:55
we're going to set up 40 sites
in high-need jurisdictions.
in high-need jurisdictions.
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osnovaćemo 40 mesta
u oblastima sa velikim potrebama.
u oblastima sa velikim potrebama.
10:58
The goal is to bail out 160,000 people.
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Cilj je da platimo kauciju
za 160.000 ljudi.
za 160.000 ljudi.
11:02
Our strategy leverages the fact
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Naša strategija koristi činjenicu
11:04
that bail money comes back
at the end of a case.
at the end of a case.
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da se novac za kauciju vraća
na kraju slučaja.
na kraju slučaja.
11:06
Data from the Bronx
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Podaci iz Bronksa
11:07
shows that a dollar can be used
two or three times a year,
two or three times a year,
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pokazuju da se jedan dolar
može iskoristiti tri puta tokom godine,
može iskoristiti tri puta tokom godine,
11:12
creating a massive force multiplier.
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stvarajući tako masivno pojačanje sile.
11:15
So a dollar donated today can be used
to pay bail for up to 15 people
to pay bail for up to 15 people
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Dolar koji je doniran danas
može da se iskoristi da izbavi do 15 ljudi
može da se iskoristi da izbavi do 15 ljudi
11:20
over the next five years.
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u narednih 5 godina.
11:23
Our strategy also relies on the experience
and the wisdom and the leadership
and the wisdom and the leadership
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Naša strategija se takođe oslanja
na iskustvo i mudrost i liderstvo
na iskustvo i mudrost i liderstvo
11:28
of those who have experienced
this injustice firsthand.
this injustice firsthand.
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onih koji su iskusili
ovu nepravdu iz prve ruke.
ovu nepravdu iz prve ruke.
11:32
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
11:34
Each bail project site will be staffed
by a team of bail disrupters.
by a team of bail disrupters.
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Na svakom mestu za kaucije
radiće tim revolucionara kaucija.
radiće tim revolucionara kaucija.
11:38
These are passionate, dedicated
advocates from local communities,
advocates from local communities,
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To su strastveni, posvećeni
zagovarači iz lokalnih zajednica,
zagovarači iz lokalnih zajednica,
11:42
many of whom were formerly
incarcerated themselves,
incarcerated themselves,
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od kojih su mnogi ranije bili zatvoreni,
11:45
who will pay bails and support clients
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koji će plaćati kaucije
i podržavati klijente
i podržavati klijente
11:47
while their cases are going
through the legal system,
through the legal system,
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dok njihovi slučajevi
prolaze kroz pravni sistem,
prolaze kroz pravni sistem,
11:50
providing them with whatever
resources and support they may need.
resources and support they may need.
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i davaće im svu podršku i resurse
koji su im potrebni.
koji su im potrebni.
11:54
Our first two sites are up and running.
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Prva dva mesta su proradila.
11:56
One in Tulsa, Oklahoma,
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Jedno u Tulsi, u Oklahomi,
11:58
and one in St. Louis, Missouri.
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drugo u Snt Luisu, u Mizuriju.
12:01
And Ramel?
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A Ramel?
12:02
He's training right now to be a bail
disrupter in Queens County, New York.
disrupter in Queens County, New York.
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On je trenutno na obuci da bude
revolucionar za kaucije u Kvinsu, Njujork.
revolucionar za kaucije u Kvinsu, Njujork.
12:06
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
12:11
Our next three sites are ready to launch
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Naša naredna tri mesta
su spremna za otvaranje
su spremna za otvaranje
12:13
in Dallas, Detroit
and Louisville, Kentucky.
and Louisville, Kentucky.
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u Dalasu, Detroitu i Luivilu, Kentaki.
12:17
The Bail Project will attack
the money bail system
the money bail system
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Projekat Kaucija će napasti
novčani sistem kaucije
novčani sistem kaucije
12:20
on an unprecedented scale.
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u do sada neviđenoj razmeri.
12:23
We will also listen, collect and elevate
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Takođe ćemo slušati,
skupljati, promovisati
skupljati, promovisati
12:27
and honor the stories of our clients
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i poštovati priče svojih klijenata
12:30
so that we can change hearts and minds,
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kako bismo promenili srca i umove
12:32
and we will collect
critical, national data
critical, national data
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i skupljaćemo važne, nacionalne podatke
12:36
that we need so we can chart
a better path forward
a better path forward
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koji su nam potrebni
da bismo napravili bolji plan za dalje
da bismo napravili bolji plan za dalje
12:40
so that we do not recreate this system
of oppression in just another form.
of oppression in just another form.
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da ne bismo rekreirali sistem opresije
u nekom drugom obliku.
u nekom drugom obliku.
12:45
The Bail Project,
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Projekat Kaucija,
12:46
by bailing out 160,000 people
over the next five years,
over the next five years,
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oslobađenjem 160.000 ljudi
u narednih pet godina,
u narednih pet godina,
12:50
will become one of the largest
non-governmental decarcerations
non-governmental decarcerations
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postaće jedna od najvećih
nevladinih akcija puštanja iz zatvora
nevladinih akcija puštanja iz zatvora
12:53
of Americans in history.
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Amerikanaca u istoriji.
12:55
So look --
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Dakle, vidite -
12:57
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
12:59
the criminal legal system, as it exists --
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kriminalni pravni sistem, kakav jeste -
13:02
it needs to be dismantled.
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mora da se menja.
13:04
But here's the thing I know
from decades in the system:
from decades in the system:
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Ali evo šta znam posle decenija u sistemu:
13:06
real, systemic change takes time,
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prava, sistemska promena zahteva vreme
13:09
and it takes a variety of strategies.
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i raznovrsne strategije.
13:11
So it's going to take all of us.
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I potrebni smo svi mi.
13:13
It's going to take
the civil rights litigators,
the civil rights litigators,
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Potrebni su advokati za građanska prava,
13:15
the community organizers, the academics,
the media, the philanthropists,
the media, the philanthropists,
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vođe zajednica, akademici,
mediji, filantropi,
mediji, filantropi,
13:20
the students, the singers, the poets,
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studenti, muzičari, pesnici
13:22
and, of course, the voices and efforts
of those who are impacted by this system.
of those who are impacted by this system.
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i naravno, glasovi i napori onih
na koje je ovaj sistem uticao.
na koje je ovaj sistem uticao.
13:27
But here's what I also know:
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Ali evo šta još znam:
13:30
together, I believe we can end
mass incarceration.
mass incarceration.
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zajedno, verujem da možemo
zaustaviti masovno zatvaranje.
zaustaviti masovno zatvaranje.
13:34
But one last thing:
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Ali još nešto:
13:37
those people, sitting in America,
in those jail cells,
in those jail cells,
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ti ljudi, koji u Americi sede u zatvorima,
13:40
in every corner of the country,
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u svakom kutku zemlje,
13:42
who are held in jail
on bail bondage, right now --
on bail bondage, right now --
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koji su u zatvorima zbog kaucije, sada -
13:46
they need a lifeline today.
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njima je potrebna slamka spasa danas.
13:49
That's where The Bail Project comes in.
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Tu nastupa Projekat Kaucija.
13:52
We have a proven model, a plan of action,
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Imamo dokazani model, plan akcije,
13:55
and a growing network of bail disrupters
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rastuću mrežu revolucionara
13:57
who are audacious enough
to dream big and fight hard,
to dream big and fight hard,
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koji su dovoljno odvažni
da sanjaju velike snove i bore se snažno,
da sanjaju velike snove i bore se snažno,
14:01
one bail at a time, for as long it takes,
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jednu po jednu kauciju,
koliko god je potrebno,
koliko god je potrebno,
14:04
until true freedom and equal justice
are a reality in America.
are a reality in America.
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dok istinska sloboda i jednaka pravda
ne postanu stvarnost u Americi.
ne postanu stvarnost u Americi.
14:09
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
14:10
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Robin Steinberg - Public defender, activistRobin Steinberg is the CEO of The Bail Project, a new organization designed to combat mass incarceration in the United States by disrupting the money bail system -- one person at a time. As she says: "I hate injustice and simply can't sit still when I see it."
Why you should listen
Robin Steinberg is the CEO of The Bail Project and a senior fellow at the UCLA Law Criminal Justice Program. As she writes: "When I started my career, all I wanted was to be a great public defender for my clients. I vowed to fight for their rights, dignity and humanity in a system that seemed intent on crushing them, their families and their communities. It was hard work, but I woke up everyday inspired and with a sense of purpose -- even when the unfairness of the system made me cry. I was doing my part in the larger struggle for social justice -- one client at a time. But the need to do more, to rethink the very nature of public defense and challenge the larger systemic issues that fueled the cycle of criminalization and poverty led me to start The Bronx Defenders in 1997. For 20 years, I worked to create a new vision of public defense, extending legal representation and advocacy beyond criminal court with the goal of breaking that cycle. That process led to the founding of several new initiatives, including Still She Rises, a public defender office dedicated exclusively to the representation of women in the criminal justice system, and The Bronx Freedom Fund, a revolving bail fund that used philanthropic dollars to pay bail for clients who couldn’t buy their freedom.
"As it turns out, what I love most is getting people out of jail so they can be home with their families and have a fighting chance in court. My new organization, The Bail Project, will take the lessons we learned in the Bronx and go to dozens of high-need jurisdictions with the goal of paying bail for 160,000 people over the next five years, disrupting the bail system, reducing the human suffering it causes and continuing the fight to decarcerate America."
Robin Steinberg | Speaker | TED.com