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Trevor Aaronson: How this FBI strategy is actually creating US-based terrorists
Trevor Aaronson: Bagaimana sebenarnya strategi FBI ini sedang mencetak teroris di Amerika
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Ada sebuah organisasi yang bertanggung jawab terhadap plot terorisme di Amerika lebih banyak daripada total gabungan al-Qaeda, al-Shabaab, dan ISIS: FBI. Bagaimana? Mengapa? Dalam ceramah yang membuka mata, jurnalis investigasi Trevor Aaronson mengungkap praktik FBI yang buruk yang membiakkan plot-plot terorisme dengan cara mengeksploitasi warga Amerika Muslim dengan gangguan kejiwaan.
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An investigative journalist who reports on the FBI’s misuse of informants in counterterrorism operations, Trevor Aaronson asks the question: Is the United States catching terrorists or creating them? Full bio
An investigative journalist who reports on the FBI’s misuse of informants in counterterrorism operations, Trevor Aaronson asks the question: Is the United States catching terrorists or creating them? Full bio
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The FBI is responsible
for more terrorism plots
for more terrorism plots
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FBI bertanggung jawab
terhadap plot terorisme di AS
terhadap plot terorisme di AS
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in the United States
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lebih banyak daripada organisasi lainnya.
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than any other organization.
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More than al Qaeda,
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Lebih banyak daripada al Qaeda,
lebih banyak daripada al Shabaab,
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more than al Shabaab,
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more than the Islamic State,
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lebih banyak daripada ISIS,
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more than all of them combined.
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Lebih daripada gabungan semuanya.
00:27
This isn't likely how you
think about the FBI.
think about the FBI.
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FBI tidak seperti yang Anda pikirkan.
00:30
You probably think of FBI agents
gunning down bad guys like John Dillinger,
gunning down bad guys like John Dillinger,
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Anda mungkin berpikir agen FBI
menembaki penjahat seperti John Dillinger,
menembaki penjahat seperti John Dillinger,
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or arresting corrupt politicians.
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Atau menahan politisi korup.
Setelah serangan teroris 11 September,
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After the 9/11 terrorist attacks,
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the FBI became less concerned
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FBI menjadi lebih tidak peduli
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with gangsters and
crooked elected officials.
crooked elected officials.
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terhadap bandit dan pejabat curang.
00:42
The new target became terrorists,
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Target baru mereka adalah para teroris,
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and the pursuit of terrorists
has consumed the FBI.
has consumed the FBI.
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dan pengejaran teroris
telah menggerogoti FBI.
telah menggerogoti FBI.
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Every year, the Bureau spends
3.3 billion dollars
3.3 billion dollars
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Setiap tahun, biro pemerintah
menghabiskan USD 3,3 miliar
menghabiskan USD 3,3 miliar
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on domestic counterterrorism activities.
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pada aktivitas pencegahan
terorisme domestik.
terorisme domestik.
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Compare than to just 2.6 billion dollars
combined for organized crime,
combined for organized crime,
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Dibandingkan dengan total USD 2,6 miliar
pada kejahatan terorganisir,
pada kejahatan terorganisir,
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financial fraud, public corruption
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penyelewengan keuangan, korupsi publik,
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and all other types of traditional
criminal activity.
criminal activity.
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dan aktivitas
kejahatan tradisional lainnya.
kejahatan tradisional lainnya.
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I've spent years pouring through
the case files
the case files
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Tahunan saya curahkan pada berkas kasus
tuntutan terorisme di Amerika,
tuntutan terorisme di Amerika,
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of terrorism prosecutions in
the United States,
the United States,
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dan saya berkesimpulan bahwa FBI
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and I've come to
the conclusion that the FBI
the conclusion that the FBI
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01:10
is much better at creating terrorists
than it is at catching terrorists.
than it is at catching terrorists.
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lebih unggul dalam mencetak teroris
daripada menangkapnya.
daripada menangkapnya.
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In the 14 years since 9/11,
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14 tahun sejak 11 September,
Anda dapat menghitung sekitar enam
penyerangan teroris sungguhan di Amerika,
penyerangan teroris sungguhan di Amerika,
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you can count about six real
terrorist attacks in the United States.
terrorist attacks in the United States.
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These include the Boston Marathon
bombings in 2013,
bombings in 2013,
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Termasuk pengeboman
Boston Marathon di 2013,
Boston Marathon di 2013,
termasuk serangan yang gagal,
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as well as failed attacks,
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such as the time when
a man named Faisal Shahzad
a man named Faisal Shahzad
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seperti saat seorang pria
bernama Faisal Shahzad
bernama Faisal Shahzad
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tried to deliver a car bomb
to Times Square.
to Times Square.
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mencoba membawa bom mobil ke Times Square.
01:30
In those same 14 years,
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Pada 14 tahun yang sama,
biro pemerintah, di satu sisi,
telah membual
telah membual
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the Bureau, however, has bragged
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about how it's foiled dozens
of terrorism plots.
of terrorism plots.
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bagaimana mereka menggagalkan
puluhan plot terorisme.
puluhan plot terorisme.
01:36
In all, the FBI has arrested
more than 175 people
more than 175 people
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Secara keseluruhan, FBI telah
menangkap lebih dari 175 orang
menangkap lebih dari 175 orang
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in aggressive, undercover
conterterrorism stings.
conterterrorism stings.
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dengan aksi penyamaran
perlawanan terorisme yang agresif.
perlawanan terorisme yang agresif.
01:44
These operations, which are usually
led by an informant,
led by an informant,
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Operasi ini, yang biasanya
dipimpin oleh seorang informan,
dipimpin oleh seorang informan,
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provide the means and opportunity,
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memberikan cara-cara dan kesempatan,
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and sometimes even the idea,
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dan terkadang bahkan ide,
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for mentally ill and
economically desperate people
economically desperate people
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untuk orang-orang sakit jiwa
dan putus asa secara ekonomi
dan putus asa secara ekonomi
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to become what we now term terrorists.
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untuk menjadi apa yang
sekarang kita sebut teroris.
sekarang kita sebut teroris.
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After 9/11, the FBI was given an edict:
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Setelah 11 September,
FBI diberikan maklumat:
FBI diberikan maklumat:
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never again.
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tak boleh terjadi lagi.
02:01
Never another attack on American soil.
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Tak boleh ada serangan lagi
di tanah Amerika.
di tanah Amerika.
Agen FBI diperintah untuk menemukan
teroris sebelum mereka menyerang.
teroris sebelum mereka menyerang.
02:04
FBI agents were told to find terrorists
before they struck.
before they struck.
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02:07
To do this, agents recruited a network
of more than 15,000 informants nationwide,
of more than 15,000 informants nationwide,
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Untuk itu, para agen merekrut lebih dari
15.000 jaringan informan di penjuru negeri
15.000 jaringan informan di penjuru negeri
02:12
all looking for anyone who
might be dangerous.
might be dangerous.
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semuanya mencari siapa saja
yang mungkin berbahaya.
yang mungkin berbahaya.
Seorang informan bisa mendapat
USD 100.000 atau lebih
USD 100.000 atau lebih
02:15
An informant can earn
100,000 dollars or more
100,000 dollars or more
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02:17
for every terrorism case
they bring to the FBI.
they bring to the FBI.
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untuk setiap kasus terorisme
yang mereka bawa ke FBI.
yang mereka bawa ke FBI.
02:20
That's right, the FBI is paying
mostly criminals and con men
mostly criminals and con men
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Benar, FBI kebanyakan membayar
pelanggar hukum dan penipu
pelanggar hukum dan penipu
02:24
six figures to spy on communities
in the United States,
in the United States,
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enam digit untuk memata-matai
berbagai komunitas di Amerika,
berbagai komunitas di Amerika,
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but mostly Muslim American communities.
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tapi kebanyakan komunitas Muslim Amerika.
Para informan ini menangkap orang-orang
seperti Abu Khalid Abdul-Latif
seperti Abu Khalid Abdul-Latif
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These informants nab people like
Abu Khalid Abdul-Latif
Abu Khalid Abdul-Latif
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and Walli Mujahidh.
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dan Walli Mujahidh.
02:35
Both are mentally ill.
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Keduanya sakit jiwa.
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Abdul-Latif had a history of huffing
gasoline and attempting suicide.
gasoline and attempting suicide.
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Abdul Latif punya catatan
menghirup bensin dan percobaan bunuh diri.
menghirup bensin dan percobaan bunuh diri.
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Mujahidh had schizoaffective disorder,
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Mujahidh punya kelainan skizoafektif,
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he had trouble distinguishing between
reality and fantasy.
reality and fantasy.
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dia tidak bisa membedakan
kenyataan dan khayalan.
kenyataan dan khayalan.
02:45
In 2012, the FBI arrested these two men
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Tahun 2012, FBI menangkap kedua orang ini
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for conspiring to attack a military
recruiting station outside Seattle
recruiting station outside Seattle
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atas tuduhan konspirasi penyerangan
stasiun perekrutan militer di luar Seattle
stasiun perekrutan militer di luar Seattle
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with weapons provided,
of course, by the FBI.
of course, by the FBI.
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dengan senjata yang disediakan,
tentu saja, oleh FBI.
tentu saja, oleh FBI.
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The FBI's informant was Robert Childs,
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Informan FBI-nya adalah Robert Childs,
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a convicted rapist and child molester
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terdakwa perkosaan dan penganiayaan anak
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who was paid 90,000 dollars
for his work on the case.
for his work on the case.
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yang dibayar USD 90.000 untuk kasus ini.
03:04
This isn't an outlier.
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Ini bukan orang luar.
03:05
In 2009, an FBI informant
who had fled Pakistan on murder charges
who had fled Pakistan on murder charges
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Tahun 2009, informan FBI yang telah kabur
dari Pakistan karena tuduhan pembunuhan
dari Pakistan karena tuduhan pembunuhan
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led four men in a plot to bomb
synagogues in the Bronx.
synagogues in the Bronx.
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memimpin empat orang dalam
plot pengeboman sinagoga di Bronx.
plot pengeboman sinagoga di Bronx.
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The lead defendant was James Cromitie,
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Tergugat utamanya adalah James Cromitie,
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a broke Walmart employee
with a history of mental problems.
with a history of mental problems.
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karyawan Walmart yang bangkrut
dengan catatan masalah kejiwaan.
dengan catatan masalah kejiwaan.
03:18
And the informant had offered
him 250,000 dollars
him 250,000 dollars
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Dan si informan telah
menawarkannya USD 250.000
menawarkannya USD 250.000
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if he participated in that plot.
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jika ia ikut serta dalam plot tersebut.
03:23
There are many more examples.
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Ada lebih banyak contoh lagi.
Hari ini, The Intercept
menerbitkan kisah baru saya
menerbitkan kisah baru saya
03:26
Today, The Intercept
published my new story
published my new story
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about a counterterrorism sting in Tampa
involving Sami Osmakac,
involving Sami Osmakac,
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tentang aksi penyusupan melawan terorisme
di Tampa yang melibatkan Sami Osmakac,
di Tampa yang melibatkan Sami Osmakac,
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a young man who was living
near Tampa, Florida.
near Tampa, Florida.
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seorang pemuda yang tinggal
di sekitar Tampa, Florida.
di sekitar Tampa, Florida.
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Osmakac also had
schizoaffective disorder.
schizoaffective disorder.
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Osmakac juga punya kelainan skizoafektif.
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He too was broke,
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Dia juga bangkrut,
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and he had no connections to
international terrorist groups.
international terrorist groups.
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dan dia tidak punya koneksi
ke kelompok teroris internasional.
ke kelompok teroris internasional.
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Nonetheless,
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Walau demikian,
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an FBI informant gave him a job,
handed him money,
handed him money,
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seorang informan FBI memberi dia tugas,
memberinya sejumlah uang,
memberinya sejumlah uang,
memperkenalkannya kepada
agen yang menyamar sebagai teroris,
agen yang menyamar sebagai teroris,
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introduced him to an undercover agent
posing as a terrorist,
posing as a terrorist,
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and lured him in a plot
to bomb an Irish bar.
to bomb an Irish bar.
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dan memancingnya ke dalam
plot pengeboman bar Irlandia.
plot pengeboman bar Irlandia.
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But here's what's interesting:
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Tapi inilah yang menarik:
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The lead undercover agent --
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Agen penyamaran utamanya --
Anda bisa lihat di foto ini
yaitu yang wajahnya diburamkan --
yaitu yang wajahnya diburamkan --
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you can see him in this picture
with his face blurred --
with his face blurred --
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would go back to the Tampa field office
with his recording equipment on.
with his recording equipment on.
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akan kembali ke kantor lapangan di Tampa
dengan dipasangi alat perekam.
dengan dipasangi alat perekam.
04:02
Behind closed doors,
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Diam-diam,
04:03
FBI agents admitted that what
they were doing was farcical.
they were doing was farcical.
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agen-agen FBI mengakui
apa yang mereka lakukan itu lucu.
apa yang mereka lakukan itu lucu.
04:06
A federal judge doesn't want you
to hear about these conversations.
to hear about these conversations.
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Seorang hakim federal tidak ingin
Anda mendengar percakapan ini.
Anda mendengar percakapan ini.
Dia menyegel salinannya dan menempatkannya
di bawah perintah penjagaan
di bawah perintah penjagaan
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He sealed the transcripts and placed
them under a protective order
them under a protective order
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04:13
in an attempt to prevent someone like me
from doing something like this.
from doing something like this.
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dalam upaya mencegah orang seperti saya
melakukan sesuatu seperti ini.
melakukan sesuatu seperti ini.
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Behind closed doors, the lead agent,
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Diam-diam, agen utamanya,
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the squad supervisor,
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tim pengawasnya, menggambarkan
teroris mereka yang selanjutnya
teroris mereka yang selanjutnya
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described their would-be terrorist
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as a "retarded fool who didn't have
a pot to piss in."
a pot to piss in."
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sebagai "si bodoh terbelakang
yang super miskin."
yang super miskin."
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They described his terrorist ambitions
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Mereka menjabarkan ambisi terorisnya
plin-plan, skenario mimpi di siang bolong.
plin-plan, skenario mimpi di siang bolong.
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as wishy-washy and
a pipe dream scenario.
a pipe dream scenario.
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But that didn't stop the FBI.
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Tapi itu tidak menghentikan FBI.
Mereka memberikan Sami Osmakac
semua yang ia butuhkan.
semua yang ia butuhkan.
04:32
They provided Sami Osmakac
everything he needed.
everything he needed.
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04:36
They gave him a car bomb,
they gave him an AK-47,
they gave him an AK-47,
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Mereka memberinya bom mobil,
mereka memberinya senjata AK-47,
mereka memberinya senjata AK-47,
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they helped him make a so-called
martyrdom video,
martyrdom video,
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mereka membantunya
membuat video kesyahidan
membuat video kesyahidan
dan mereka bahkan
memberinya uang untuk naik taksi
memberinya uang untuk naik taksi
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and they even gave
him money for a taxi cab
him money for a taxi cab
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so that he could get to where
they wanted him to go.
they wanted him to go.
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supaya ia dapat pergi
ke mana pun yang mereka mau.
ke mana pun yang mereka mau.
Selagi mereka bekerja pada penyusupannya,
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As they were working the sting,
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the squad supervisor tells his agents
he wanted a Hollywood ending.
he wanted a Hollywood ending.
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tim pengawas memberitahu para agennya
ia ingin akhir seperti film Hollywood.
ia ingin akhir seperti film Hollywood.
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And he got a Hollywood ending.
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Dan ia mendapatkannya.
Sewaktu Sami Osmakac bermaksud untuk
membawa apa yang ia kira adalah bom mobil,
membawa apa yang ia kira adalah bom mobil,
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When Sami Osmakac attempted
to deliver what he thought
to deliver what he thought
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04:59
was a car bomb,
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he was arrested, convicted and
sentenced to 40 years in prison.
sentenced to 40 years in prison.
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dia ditangkap, didakwa,
dan dijatuhi hukuman 40 tahun penjara.
dan dijatuhi hukuman 40 tahun penjara.
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Sami Osmakac isn't alone.
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Sami Osmakac tidak sendirian.
Ia salah satu dari 175 lebih
yang disebut-sebut teroris,
yang disebut-sebut teroris,
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He's one of more than
175 so-called terrorists,
175 so-called terrorists,
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05:10
for whom the FBI has created
Hollywood endings.
Hollywood endings.
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yang mana FBI telah menciptakan
akhir seperti film Hollywood.
akhir seperti film Hollywood.
Pejabat pemerintah Amerika
menyebutnya Perang terhadap Teror.
menyebutnya Perang terhadap Teror.
05:15
U.S. government officials call this
the War on Terror.
the War on Terror.
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05:18
It's really just theater,
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Ini benar-benar hanya teater,
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a national security theater,
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teater keamanan nasional,
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with mentally ill men like Sami Osmakac
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dengan pria sakit jiwa
seperti Sami Osmakac
seperti Sami Osmakac
Aktor yang tak tahu apa-apa
dalam produksi yang ditata hati-hati
dalam produksi yang ditata hati-hati
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unwitting actors in a
carefully choreographed production
carefully choreographed production
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brought to you by the FBI.
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dipersembahkan kepada Anda oleh FBI.
05:30
Thank you.
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Terima kasih.
05:31
(Applause)
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(Tepuk tangan)
05:41
Tom Rielly: So, those are some
pretty strong accusations,
pretty strong accusations,
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Tom Rielly: Jadi, itu adalah beberapa
tudingan yang cukup kuat,
tudingan yang cukup kuat,
05:44
pretty strong charges.
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tuntutan yang cukup kuat.
Bagaimana Anda bisa membuktikan ini?
05:47
How can you back this up?
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05:48
Trevor Aaronson: My research began in 2010
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Trevor Aaronson: Penelitian saya dimulai
di 2010 waktu saya mendapat penghargaan
di 2010 waktu saya mendapat penghargaan
05:50
when I received a grant from the
Investigative Reporting Program
Investigative Reporting Program
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dari Program Pelaporan Investigasi
di U.C. Berkeley,
di U.C. Berkeley,
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at U.C. Berkeley,
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and a research assistant and I
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seorang asisten penelitian dan saya
mengumpulkan basis data
mengumpulkan basis data
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put together a database
of all terrorism prosecutions
of all terrorism prosecutions
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semua tuntutan terorisme
selama satu dekade sejak 11 September.
selama satu dekade sejak 11 September.
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at the time during
the first decade after 9/11.
the first decade after 9/11.
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Kami menggunakan berkas pengadilan
untuk mencari tahu apakah
untuk mencari tahu apakah
06:01
And we used the court file
to find out whether
to find out whether
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06:04
the defendants had any connections
to international terrorist groups,
to international terrorist groups,
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para terdakwa punya koneksi
ke kelompok teroris internasional,
ke kelompok teroris internasional,
apakah ada informan yang digunakan,
06:07
whether an informant was used,
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and whether the informant
played the role of an agent provocateur
played the role of an agent provocateur
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dan apakah si informan berperan
sebagai agen provokator
sebagai agen provokator
dengan menyediakan
cara-cara dan kesempatan.
cara-cara dan kesempatan.
06:12
by providing the means and opportunity.
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06:14
And we submitted that to the FBI
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dan kami menyerahkannya ke FBI
06:15
and we asked them to respond
to our database.
to our database.
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dan kami meminta mereka
untuk menanggapinya.
untuk menanggapinya.
06:18
If they believed there were any errors,
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Jika mereka percaya ada kesalahan apapun,
06:20
we asked them to tell us what they were
and we'd go back and check
and we'd go back and check
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kami minta supaya mereka bilang
dan kami akan memeriksanya kembali
dan kami akan memeriksanya kembali
mereka tak pernah menantang
satupun penemuan kami.
satupun penemuan kami.
06:23
and they never challenged any
of our findings.
of our findings.
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06:25
Later, I used that data
in a magazine article
in a magazine article
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Saya memakai data itu pada
artikel majalah kemudian di buku saya,
artikel majalah kemudian di buku saya,
06:27
and later in my book,
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dan pada kemunculan saya
di tempat seperti CBS dan NPR,
di tempat seperti CBS dan NPR,
06:28
and on appearances on places
like CBS and NPR,
like CBS and NPR,
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06:31
they were offered that opportunity again
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mereka ditawarkan kesempatan itu lagi
06:33
to say, "Trevor Aaronson's
findings are wrong."
findings are wrong."
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untuk bilang, "Penemuan
Trevor Aaronson salah."
Trevor Aaronson salah."
Dan mereka tak pernah datang dan berkata,
06:35
And they've never
come forward and said,
come forward and said,
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06:37
"These are the problems
with those findings."
with those findings."
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"Inilah masalah pada penemuan itu."
Data tersebut sejak itu digunakan
oleh kelompok seperti Human Rights Watch
oleh kelompok seperti Human Rights Watch
06:39
So the data has since been used
by groups like Human Rights Watch
by groups like Human Rights Watch
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06:42
on its recent report on
these types of sting operations.
these types of sting operations.
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di laporan terakhirnya pada
operasi penyusupan seperti ini.
operasi penyusupan seperti ini.
06:45
And so far, the FBI has never
really responded
really responded
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Dan sejauh ini, FBI belum pernah
benar-benar menanggapi tuntutan ini
benar-benar menanggapi tuntutan ini
06:47
to these charges that it's really
not catching terrorists
not catching terrorists
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bahwa ini bukan
penangkapan teroris sungguhan
penangkapan teroris sungguhan
06:51
so much as it's catching
mentally ill people
mentally ill people
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tapi tak lebih dari
penangkapan orang sakit jiwa
penangkapan orang sakit jiwa
06:53
that it can dress up as terrorists
in these types of sting operations.
in these types of sting operations.
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yang dipacaki sebagai teroris
pada operasi penyusupan semacam ini.
pada operasi penyusupan semacam ini.
06:57
TR: So The Intercept is that new
investigative journalism website,
investigative journalism website,
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TR: Jadi The Intercept adalah
situs jurnalisme investigasi baru,
situs jurnalisme investigasi baru,
07:01
that's cofounded by Glenn Greenwald.
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yang didirikan oleh Glenn Greenwald.
07:03
Tell us about your article
and why there.
and why there.
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Ceritakan mengenai artikel Anda
dan mengapa dipasang di sana.
dan mengapa dipasang di sana.
07:06
TA: The Intercept seemed to be
the most logical place for this
the most logical place for this
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TA: The Intercept sepertinya
tempat yang paling logis untuk ini
tempat yang paling logis untuk ini
07:09
because my article is
really leveraging the fact that
really leveraging the fact that
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karena artikel saya benar-benar
mengangkat fakta bahwa
mengangkat fakta bahwa
07:12
a source had leaked to me
transcripts of these
transcripts of these
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seorang sumber telah
membocorkan kepada saya
membocorkan kepada saya
salinan percakapan rahasia FBI
yang telah disegel oleh hakim federal
yang telah disegel oleh hakim federal
07:15
private FBI conversations
that a federal judge had sealed
that a federal judge had sealed
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07:18
based on the government's claim
that their release
that their release
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berdasarkan gugatan pemerintah
bahwa penyebarannya
bahwa penyebarannya
07:20
would irreparably damage
the U.S. government's
the U.S. government's
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akan merusak strategi penegakan hukum
pemerintah Amerika secara permanen
pemerintah Amerika secara permanen
07:22
law enforcement strategy.
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Jadi wadah seperti The Intercept
dibuat untuk melindungi para jurnalis
dibuat untuk melindungi para jurnalis
07:24
So a place like The Intercept
was set up to protect journalists
was set up to protect journalists
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dan menerbitkan karyanya
07:27
and publish their work
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07:28
when they're dealing with
very sensitive matters like this.
very sensitive matters like this.
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sewaktu mereka berurusan
dengan topik sensitif semacam ini.
dengan topik sensitif semacam ini.
07:31
So my story in The Intercept,
which was just published today,
which was just published today,
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Jadi kisah saya di The Intercept,
yang baru dipublikasikan hari ini,
yang baru dipublikasikan hari ini,
07:34
tells the story of how Sami Osmakac
was set up in this FBI sting
was set up in this FBI sting
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menceritakan kisah Sami Osmakac
yang dijebak pada penyusupan FBI
yang dijebak pada penyusupan FBI
07:37
and goes into much greater detail.
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dan detail yang lebih dalam lagi.
Kali ini, saya hanya bisa menyorot
hal-hal yang mereka katakan, seperti
hal-hal yang mereka katakan, seperti
07:39
In this talk, I could only
highlight the things that they said,
highlight the things that they said,
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07:42
such as calling him a "retarded fool."
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menyebutnya "si bodoh terbelakang."
07:44
But it was much more elaborate,
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Tapi bahkan lebih jelas lagi,
07:45
they went to great lengths
to put money in Sami Osmakac's hands,
to put money in Sami Osmakac's hands,
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mereka bertindak sejauh memberikan uang
ke tangan Sami Osmakac,
ke tangan Sami Osmakac,
yang kemudian ia gunakan untuk
membeli senjata dari agen penyamaran.
membeli senjata dari agen penyamaran.
07:49
which he then used to purchase weapons
from the undercover agent.
from the undercover agent.
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07:52
When he went to trial,
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Sewaktu mereka disidang,
07:53
the central piece of evidence
was that he paid for these weapons,
was that he paid for these weapons,
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bukti utamanya adalah bahwa
ia membayar senjata-senjata ini,
ia membayar senjata-senjata ini,
07:56
when in truth, these transcripts show
how the FBI orchestrated
how the FBI orchestrated
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padahal, salinan ini menunjukkan
bagaimana FBI mengatur
bagaimana FBI mengatur
07:59
someone who was essentially
mentally ill and broke
mentally ill and broke
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seseorang yang pada intinya
sakit jiwa dan bangkrut
sakit jiwa dan bangkrut
08:01
to get money to then
pay for weapons
pay for weapons
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mendapatkan uang untuk membayar senjata
yang kemudian mereka dapat
mendakwanya atas konspirasi.
mendakwanya atas konspirasi.
08:03
that they could then charge him
in a conspiracy for.
in a conspiracy for.
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08:06
TR: One final question.
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TR: Satu pertanyaan lagi.
08:08
Less than 10 days ago,
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Kurang dari 10 hari yang lalu,
08:10
the FBI arrested some potential
ISIS suspects in Brooklyn,
ISIS suspects in Brooklyn,
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FBI menangkap beberapa tersangka
yang berpotensi ISI di Brooklyn,
yang berpotensi ISI di Brooklyn,
08:13
saying that they might
be headed to Syria,
be headed to Syria,
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mengatakan bahwa mereka
kemungkinan akan bertolak ke Syria,
kemungkinan akan bertolak ke Syria,
08:16
and were those real,
or examples of more of the same?
or examples of more of the same?
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dan apakah itu sungguhan,
atau contoh yang kurang lebih sama?
atau contoh yang kurang lebih sama?
TA: Sejauh ini, kami hanya tahu
dari berkas pengadilan,
dari berkas pengadilan,
08:19
TA: Well so far, we only know
what's come out in the court file,
what's come out in the court file,
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08:22
but they seem to suggest it's another
example of the same.
example of the same.
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tapi itu semua sepertinya mengarah pada
contoh lain yang serupa.
contoh lain yang serupa.
08:25
These types of sting operations
have moved from flavor to flavor.
have moved from flavor to flavor.
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Operasi penyusupan seperti ini
telah berubah-ubah.
telah berubah-ubah.
08:28
So initially it was al Qaeda plots,
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Jadi awalnya ini adalah plot al Qaeda,
08:30
and now the Islamic State
is the current flavor.
is the current flavor.
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dan sekarang ISIS
adalah 'citarasa' terkini.
adalah 'citarasa' terkini.
Yang perlu dicatat tentang kasus tersebut
adalah bahwa tiga pria yang didakwa
adalah bahwa tiga pria yang didakwa
08:33
What's worth noting about that case
is that the three men that were charged
is that the three men that were charged
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08:36
only began the plot to go to Syria
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hanya memulai plot untuk pergi ke Siria
08:38
after the introduction
of the FBI informant,
of the FBI informant,
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setelah perkenalan dengan informan FBI,
08:40
and in fact, the FBI informant had helped
them with the travel documents
them with the travel documents
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dan bahkan, informan FBI telah
membantu mereka dengan dokumen perjalanan
membantu mereka dengan dokumen perjalanan
yang mereka butuhkan.
08:44
that they needed.
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08:45
In kind of a comical turn
in that particular case,
in that particular case,
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Pada komedi sejenis pada kasus tertentu,
08:47
one of the defendant's mother
had found out
had found out
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ibu dari salah satu terdakwa
telah menyadari
telah menyadari
08:49
that he was interested in going to Syria
and had hid his passport.
and had hid his passport.
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bahwa ia tertarik pergi ke Siria
dan menyembunyikan paspornya.
dan menyembunyikan paspornya.
Jadi tidak jelas jika pun ia muncul
di bandara, ia akan pergi ke suatu tempat
di bandara, ia akan pergi ke suatu tempat
08:53
So it's unclear that even if he had
showed up at the airport,
showed up at the airport,
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08:55
that he ever could have gone anywhere.
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Jadi ya, ada orang yang mungkin tertarik
bergabung dengan ISIS di Amerika,
bergabung dengan ISIS di Amerika,
08:57
So yes, there are people who might
be interested in joining the Islamic State
be interested in joining the Islamic State
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dan mereka adalah orang-orang
yang pemerintah Amerika harus cari
yang pemerintah Amerika harus cari
09:01
in the United States,
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09:02
and those are people that the United
States government should be looking at
States government should be looking at
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untuk melihat jika mereka tertarik
pada kekerasan di sini.
pada kekerasan di sini.
Khususnya pada kasus ini,
dengan bukti yang ada sejauh ini,
dengan bukti yang ada sejauh ini,
09:06
to see if they're interested
in violence here.
in violence here.
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09:08
In this particular case, given
the evidence that's so far come out,
the evidence that's so far come out,
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semua mengarah pada
FBI yang memungkinkan
FBI yang memungkinkan
orang-orang itu untuk bergerak
sesuai rencana, pergi ke Syria
sesuai rencana, pergi ke Syria
09:11
it suggests the FBI made
it possible for these guys
it possible for these guys
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waktu mereka tidak pernah
merencanakan apa-apa awalnya.
merencanakan apa-apa awalnya.
09:13
to move along in a plan to go to Syria
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TR: Terima kasih banyak, itu menakjubkan.
TA: Terima kasih.
TA: Terima kasih.
09:15
when they were never close
to that in the first place.
to that in the first place.
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09:18
TR: Thanks a lot, that's amazing.
TA: Thank you.
TA: Thank you.
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(Tepuk tangan)
09:20
(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Trevor Aaronson - JournalistAn investigative journalist who reports on the FBI’s misuse of informants in counterterrorism operations, Trevor Aaronson asks the question: Is the United States catching terrorists or creating them?
Why you should listen
Trevor Aaronson is the executive director of the Florida Center for Investigative Reporting and the author of The Terror Factory: Inside the FBI’s Manufactured War on Terrorism. In 2014 he reported and produced "Informants," a one-hour documentary for Al Jazeera Media Network about the FBI’s counterterrorism program. In 2015 he published "To Catch the Devil" with Foreign Policy and "The Sting: How the FBI Created a Terrorist" with The Intercept, both about his work on the FBI's counterterrorism methods.
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