ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Matthew Carter - Type designer
Even if you don’t recognize his name, chances are you’ve seen Matthew Carter’s work -- his type designs include some of the world’s most familiar digital typefaces.

Why you should listen

MacArthur Fellow Matthew Carter started his career as a punchcutter, a print artisan who physically carves each letter into metal. He had already designed several legendary typefaces (in 1975, he created Bell Centennial for use in phone books) when he stepped into the digital design ring. As part of a project undertaken for Microsoft, Carter created early and successful examples of screen type emphasizing clarity and ease of long-term viewing, including the familiar Verdana, Galliard and Georgia. A recent work is MS Sitka, a family of digital fonts that are built to be readable at many sizes in print and onscreen.

Print and online publications such as Sports Illustrated, Newsweek, Wired and the Washington Post have all commissioned Carter fonts, leading Microsoft's typography blog to call him "the person who shapes the way we read about the world."

Carter is a principal of Carter & Cone Type Inc., a Cambridge, Massachusetts-based company specializing in designing and producing original typefaces. As he says: "A typeface is a beautiful collection of letters, not a collection of beautiful letters."

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Matthew Carter: My life in typefaces

马修·卡特: 我的字体人生

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挑一本书,一本杂志,或在屏幕上,你很有可能会碰到马修·卡特所设计的某个字体。在这个动人的演讲里,这位设计了Verdana、Georgia、Bell Centennial(为电话簿设计的字体,记得吗?)等字体的幕后人物,带领我们穿越一段专注于字体中每个字母的每个像素的职业生涯。
- Type designer
Even if you don’t recognize his name, chances are you’ve seen Matthew Carter’s work -- his type designs include some of the world’s most familiar digital typefaces. Full bio

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Type类型 is something we consume消耗
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字体是我们
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in enormous巨大 quantities数量.
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大量使用的东西。
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In much of the world世界,
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从很大程度上,
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it's completely全然 inescapable不可避免的.
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字体完全不可避免。
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But few少数 consumers消费者 are concerned关心 to know
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但是很少有用户关心
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where a particular特定 typeface字体 came来了 from
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某种字体是哪儿来的
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or when or who designed设计 it,
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或什么时候、谁设计的,
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if, indeed确实, there was any human人的 agency机构 involved参与
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是否真有人力融入了字体的创造,
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in its creation创建, if it didn't just sort分类 of materialize物质化
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它是否只是
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out of the software软件 ether.
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由软件凭空产生的。
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But I do have to be concerned关心 with those things.
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但我却不得不关心这些问题。
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It's my job工作.
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这是我的工作。
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I'm one of the tiny handful少数 of people
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我是这一小部分人之一,
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who gets得到 badly bent弯曲 out of shape形状
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会对T和e之间错误的间距
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by the bad spacing间距 of the T and the E
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大发雷霆,
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that you see there.
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就像你们这里看到的。
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I've got to take that slide滑动 off.
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我不得不换下那张幻灯片。
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I can't stand it. Nor也不 can Chris克里斯.
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我受不了,Chris也是。
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There. Good.
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行了。好的。
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So my talk is about the connection连接
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所以我的演讲是有关
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between之间 technology技术 and design设计 of type类型.
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技术和字体设计之间的联系。
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The technology技术 has changed
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自我工作以来
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a number of times since以来 I started开始 work:
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技术已变化了多次:
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photo照片, digital数字, desktop桌面, screen屏幕, web卷筒纸.
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照排,数码,桌面,屏幕和网络。
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I've had to survive生存 those changes变化 and try
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我已不得不适应这些变化,
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to understand理解 their implications启示 for what I do
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并设法理解它们对
我的设计工作所产生的影响。
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for design设计.
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This slide滑动 is about the effect影响 of tools工具 on form形成.
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这张幻灯片是有关工具对形式的影响。
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The two letters, the two K'sK公司,
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这两个字母,这两个K,
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the one on your left, my right, is modern现代,
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在你们的左边我的右边的,是现代的,
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made制作 on a computer电脑.
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用计算机设计出来的。
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All straight直行 lines线 are dead straight直行.
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所有的直线都是笔直的。
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The curves曲线 have that kind of
mathematical数学的 smoothness顺利
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曲线具有用贝塞尔公式施加出来
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that the Bézier紫儿 formula imposes强加.
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的数学平滑。
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On the right, ancient Gothic哥特,
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右边,古老的哥特式的,
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cut in the resistant material材料 of steel by hand.
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是从耐磨的钢材手工切割出来的。
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None没有 of the straight直行 lines线 are actually其实 straight直行.
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没有一条直线实际上是直的。
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The curves曲线 are kind of subtle微妙.
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曲线有点微妙。
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It has that spark火花 of life from the human人的 hand
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它具有来自人手的生命火花,
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that the machine or the program程序
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这是机器或程序
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can never capture捕获.
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永远也扑捉不到的。
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What a contrast对比.
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多么鲜明的对比。
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Well, I tell a lie谎言.
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好吧,我撒了个谎。
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A lie谎言 at TEDTED. I'm really sorry.
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在TED撒了个谎。我真的很抱歉。
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Both of these were made制作 on a computer电脑,
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这两个都是电脑做出来的,
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same相同 software软件, same相同zier紫儿 curves曲线,
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同样的软件,同样的贝塞尔曲线,
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same相同 font字形 format格式.
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同样的字体格式。
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The one on your left
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你们左边的这个
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was made制作 by Zuzana苏珊娜 Licko利奇 at Emigre羇客,
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是由Emigre公司的Zuzana Licko制作的,
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and I did the other one.
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另一个是我制作的。
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The tool工具 is the same相同, yet然而 the letters are different不同.
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工具是一样的,但字母是不同的。
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The letters are different不同
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字母不同
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because the designers设计师 are different不同.
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是因为设计者不同。
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That's all. Zuzana苏珊娜 wanted hers她的 to look like that.
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就这些。Zuzana希望她设计的东西看起来那样。
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I wanted mine to look like that. End结束 of story故事.
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我希望我的看起来这样。仅此而已。
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Type类型 is very adaptable适应性强.
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字体有很强的适应性。
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Unlike不像 a fine art艺术, such这样 as sculpture雕塑 or architecture建筑,
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不像雕塑或建筑这样的艺术,
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type类型 hides its methods方法.
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字体使人看不出它的制作方法。
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I think of myself as an industrial产业 designer设计师.
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我把自己看成是工业设计师。
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The thing I design设计 is manufactured制成的,
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我设计的东西被制造,
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and it has a function功能:
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而且它有功能:
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to be read, to convey传达 meaning含义.
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可读并表达意思。
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But there is a bit more to it than that.
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除此之外还有更多的含义。
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There's the sort分类 of aesthetic审美 element元件.
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有点儿美学的成份。
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What makes品牌 these two letters different不同
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是什么使这两个字母由于
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from different不同 interpretations解读 by different不同 designers设计师?
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不同的设计者有不同的解释呢?
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What gives the work of some designers设计师
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是什么使某些设计者的工作
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sort分类 of characteristic特性 personal个人 style样式,
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有着特有的个人风格,
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as you might威力 find in the work of a fashion时尚 designer设计师,
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像你在时装设计师
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an automobile汽车 designer设计师, whatever随你?
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或汽车设计师的作品中发现的一样?
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There have been some cases, I admit承认,
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我承认,在有些情况下,
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where I as a designer设计师
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我作为一名设计师
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did feel the influence影响 of technology技术.
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确实感到技术的影响。
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This is from the mid-'中-'60s,
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这来自六十年代中期,
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the change更改 from metal金属 type类型 to photo照片,
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从铅字变成照相排版,
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hot to cold.
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从热到凉。
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This brought some benefits好处
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这既带来益处
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but also one particular特定 drawback退税:
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但也有一个特别的缺点:
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a spacing间距 system系统 that only provided提供
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它的间距体系只提供了
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18 discrete离散的 units单位 for letters
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18个离散的单元
来容纳字母。
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to be accommodated容纳 on.
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I was asked at this time to design设计
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当时我被要求设计
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a series系列 of condensed冷凝 sansSANS serif衬线 types类型
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一系列紧凑的无衬线字体,
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with as many许多 different不同 variants变种 as possible可能
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在18个单元之内
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within this 18-unit-单元 box.
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带有尽可能多的字体变化。
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Quickly很快 looking at the arithmetic算术,
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快速地看了一下算术,
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I realized实现 I could only actually其实 make three
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我意识到实际只能进行三个相关设计。
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of related有关 design设计. Here you see them.
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这里你们看到了,
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In Helvetica黑体 Compressed压缩, Extra额外 Compressed压缩,
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Helvetica压缩,额外压缩,和超压缩三种字体。
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and Ultra Compressed压缩, this rigid死板 18-unit-单元 system系统
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这种严格的18 单元系统
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really boxed盒装 me in.
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真把我限制住了。
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It kind of determined决心 the proportions比例
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它某种程度上决定了
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of the design设计.
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设计的比例。
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Here are the typefaces字体, at least最小 the lower降低 cases.
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这里是这些字体的小写部分。
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So do you look at these and say,
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所以你是否会看着这些说,
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"Poor较差的 Matthew马修, he had to submit提交 to a problem问题,
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“可怜的马修不得不屈从于这一难题,
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and by God it shows节目 in the results结果."
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天哪,结果显而易见。”
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I hope希望 not.
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我希望不是这样。
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If I were doing this same相同 job工作 today今天,
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如果我今天还做同样的工作,
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instead代替 of having 18 spacing间距 units单位,
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我会有1000个间距单元,
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I would have 1,000.
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而不是有18个单元。
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Clearly明确地 I could make more variants变种,
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显然我能制出更多的字体变化,
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but would these three members会员
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但这一系列的三种字体会更好吗?
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It's hard to say without actually其实 doing it,
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没有实际做过很难说,
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but they would not be better in the proportion比例
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但我可以告诉你们
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of 1,000 to 18, I can tell you that.
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不会有1000比18倍这么好。
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My instinct直觉 tells告诉 you that any improvement起色
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我的直觉是,
任何改进都会是很轻微的,
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would be rather slight轻微, because they were designed设计
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as functions功能 of the system系统 they were designed设计 to fit适合,
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and as I said, type类型 is very adaptable适应性强.
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像我说的那样,字体适应性很强。
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It does hide隐藏 its methods方法.
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确实让人看不出它的设计方法。
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All industrial产业 designers设计师 work within constraints限制.
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所有工业设计师的工作都有局限性。
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This is not fine art艺术.
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这不是艺术。
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The question is, does a constraint约束
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问题是,是否局限性
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force a compromise妥协?
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会迫使妥协?
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By accepting验收 a constraint约束,
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接受局限性
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are you working加工 to a lower降低 standard标准?
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你就降低工作标准了吗?
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I don't believe so, and I've always been encouraged鼓励
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我不相信,而且我总是被
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by something that Charles查尔斯 Eames埃姆斯 said.
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Charles Eames所说的话激励着。
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He said he was conscious意识 of working加工
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within constraints限制,
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but not of making制造 compromises妥协.
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但不是进行妥协。
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The distinction分别 between之间 a constraint约束
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局限性和妥协之间的区别
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and a compromise妥协 is obviously明显 very subtle微妙,
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显然是很微妙的,
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but it's very central中央 to my attitude态度 to work.
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但对我的工作态度确实是很重要的。
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Remember记得 this reading experience经验?
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记得这种阅读体验吧?
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The phone电话 book. I'll hold保持 the slide滑动
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电话簿。我留住这张幻灯片,
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so you can enjoy请享用 the nostalgia怀旧之情.
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This is from the mid-'中-'70s early trials试验
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这来自70年代中期
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of Bell Centennial百周年纪念 typeface字体 I designed设计
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Bell Centennial字体的早期尝试,
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for the U.S. phone电话 books图书,
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and it was my first experience经验 of digital数字 type类型,
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这也是我第一次用数码字体,
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and quite相当 a baptism洗礼.
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相当于一次洗礼。
像我所说的那样,为电话簿而设计,
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Designed设计 for the phone电话 books图书, as I said,
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to be printed印刷的 at tiny size尺寸 on newsprint报纸
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以极小的尺寸打印在新闻纸上,
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on very high-speed高速 rotary旋转 presses印刷机
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with ink墨水 that was kerosene煤油 and lampblack油烟.
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以及煤油和灯黑制成的油墨。
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This is not a hospitable好客 environment环境
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对字体设计师来说
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for a typographic印刷 designer设计师.
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这不是一个好的环境。
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So the challenge挑战 for me was to design设计 type类型
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所以对我的挑战是
在这些非常不利的条件下,
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that performed执行 as well as possible可能
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in these very adverse不利的 production生产 conditions条件.
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尽可能地把字体设计好。
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As I say, we were in the infancy婴儿期 of digital数字 type类型.
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如我所说,我们处在数码字体的婴儿期。
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I had to draw every一切 character字符 by hand
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我不得不在方格坐标图纸上
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on quadrille四对舞 graph图形 paper --
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手工绘制每一个字符。
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there were four weights权重 of Bell Centennial百周年纪念
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pixel像素 by pixel像素, then encode编码
them raster光栅 line线 by raster光栅 line线
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先一个像素一个像素地绘制,
再用键盘对其逐行编码。
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for the keyboard键盘.
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It took two years年份, but I learned学到了 a lot.
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我花了两年时间,但学了很多。
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These letters look as though虽然 they've他们已经 been chewed咀嚼
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这些字母看上去像
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by the dog or something or other,
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被狗或别的什么东西嚼过,
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but the missing失踪 pixels像素 at the intersections十字路口
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但在笔画的交点处或岔口处
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of strokes or in the crotches岔口
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缺失的像素,
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are the result结果 of my studying研究 the effects效果
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是我研究了
油墨在廉价纸上扩散和反应的效果,
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of ink墨水 spread传播 on cheap低廉 paper
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and reacting反应, revising修订 the font字形 accordingly于是.
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从而相应修改字体的结果。
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These strange奇怪 artifacts文物 are designed设计 to compensate补偿
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这些奇怪的人为的缺陷被设计于用来弥补
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for the undesirable不可取 effects效果 of scale规模
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大规模生产过程中所带来的
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and production生产 process处理.
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不良影响。
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At the outset开始, AT&T had wanted
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起初,AT&T公司想
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to set the phone电话 books图书 in Helvetica黑体,
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在电话簿中用Helvetica字体,
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but as my friend朋友 Erik埃里克 SpiekermannSpiekermann said
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但正如我朋友Erik Spiekermann
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in the Helvetica黑体 movie电影, if you've seen看到 that,
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在电影《传奇字体》中所说,如果你看过的话,
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the letters in Helvetica黑体 were designed设计 to be
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Helvetica字体的字母被设计得
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as similar类似 to one another另一个 as possible可能.
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彼此尽可能相似。
07:16
This is not the recipe食谱 for legibility易读性 at small size尺寸.
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这不是看清小尺寸字体的良方。
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It looks容貌 very elegant优雅 up on a slide滑动.
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它在幻灯片上看起来非常优雅。
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I had to disambiguate歧义 these forms形式
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我必须尽可能拆开
07:24
of the figures人物 as much as possible可能 in Bell Centennial百周年纪念
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Bell Centennial字体的形状
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by sort分类 of opening开盘 the shapes形状 up, as you can see
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来给这些数字形式消除歧义,
07:29
in the bottom底部 part部分 of that slide滑动.
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就像你在这张幻灯片底部看到的那样。
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So now we're on to the mid-'中-'80s,
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现在我们看到的是80年代中期,
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the early days of digital数字 outline大纲 fonts字体,
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数码轮廓字体的初期,
07:38
vector向量 technology技术.
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矢量技术。
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There was an issue问题 at that time
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当时的一个问题在于
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with the size尺寸 of the fonts字体,
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字体的大小,
07:44
the amount of data数据 that was required需要 to find
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在计算机内存中搜寻和存储一种字体
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and store商店 a font字形 in computer电脑 memory记忆.
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所需的数据量。
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It limited有限 the number of fonts字体 you could get
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这个问题限制了
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on your typesetting排版 system系统 at any one time.
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排版系统同时可用的字体数量。
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I did an analysis分析 of the data数据,
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我进行了数据分析,
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and found发现 that a typical典型 serif衬线 face面对
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发现一种典型的衬线字体,
08:03
you see on the left
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如你们左边看到的,
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needed需要 nearly几乎 twice两次 as much data数据
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比中间的无衬线字体
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as a sansSANS serif衬线 in the middle中间
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要多近两倍的数据,
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because of all the points required需要
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因为需要很多的点才能
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to define确定 the elegantly优雅 curved弯曲 serif衬线 brackets括号.
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给出衬线与主体之间优雅而弯曲的过渡。
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The numbers数字 at the bottom底部 of the slide滑动, by the way,
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顺便提一下,幻灯片底部的数字
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they represent代表 the amount of data数据
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代表存储每一种字体
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needed需要 to store商店 each of the fonts字体.
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所需的数据量。
08:24
So the sansSANS serif衬线, in the middle中间,
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因此中间的无衬线字体
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sansSANS the serifs衬线, was much more economical经济,
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是更经济的,
08:30
81 to 151.
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81相比于151。
08:32
"Aha," I thought. "The engineers工程师 have a problem问题.
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我想,“哈,工程师们有麻烦了。
08:35
Designer设计师 to the rescue拯救."
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设计师来救援。”
08:38
I made制作 a serif衬线 type类型, you can see it on the right,
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我设计了一种衬线字体,你们可以在右边看到,
08:40
without curved弯曲 serifs衬线.
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没有弯曲的衬线。
08:42
I made制作 them polygonal多边形, out
of straight直行 line线 segments,
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我把它们用直线段制成多角形的
08:44
chamfered倒角 brackets括号.
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斜切的过渡。
08:46
And look, as economical经济 in data数据 as a sansSANS serif衬线.
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看,数据量上和无衬线字体一样经济。
08:51
We call it Charter宪章, on the right.
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我们把右边的命名为Charter字体。
08:53
So I went to the head of engineering工程
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所以我带着我的数字找到工程部主管,
08:55
with my numbers数字, and I said proudly傲然,
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自豪地说:
08:57
"I have solved解决了 your problem问题."
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“我解决了你们的问题。”
09:00
"Oh," he said. "What problem问题?"
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“噢?” 他说, “什么问题?”
09:03
And I said, "Well, you know, the problem问题
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我说:“你知道,
09:05
of the huge巨大 data数据 you require要求
for serif衬线 fonts字体 and so on."
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衬线字体等要求大量数据的问题。“
09:08
"Oh," he said. "We solved解决了 that problem问题 last week.
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“噢,” 他说,”我们上周解决了那个问题。
09:12
We wrote a compaction压实 routine常规 that reduces减少
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我们写了一个压缩程序
09:14
the size尺寸 of all fonts字体 by an order订购 of magnitude大小.
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把所有字体的大小都缩小了一个数量级。
09:17
You can have as many许多 fonts字体 on your system系统
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你想要多少字体,
09:19
as you like."
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你的系统就可以有多少。“
09:20
"Well, thank you for letting出租 me know," I said.
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我说:“谢谢你告诉我。“
09:23
Foiled挫败 again.
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再次受打击。
09:24
I was left with a design设计 solution
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留给我的是
为了一个不存在的技术问题而设计的一个解决方案。
09:27
for a nonexistent不存在的 technical技术 problem问题.
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09:31
But here is where the story故事 sort分类
of gets得到 interesting有趣 for me.
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但这里是这个故事让我感兴趣的地方。
09:33
I didn't just throw my design设计 away
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我并没有赌气
09:36
in a fit适合 of pique愤怒.
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扔掉我的设计。
09:37
I persevered坚持.
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我继续坚持做下去。
09:39
What had started开始 as a technical技术 exercise行使
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作为技术练习开始的作品,
09:41
became成为 an aesthetic审美 exercise行使, really.
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变成了美学练习,真的。
09:45
In other words, I had come to like this typeface字体.
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换句话说,我渐渐开始喜欢这种字体。
09:48
Forget忘记 its origins起源. Screw that.
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忘掉初衷。别管它。
09:50
I liked喜欢 the design设计 for its own拥有 sake清酒.
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我喜欢这个设计本身。
09:52
The simplified forms形式 of Charter宪章
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Charter字体的简化的形式
09:55
gave it a sort分类 of plain-spoken直言不讳 quality质量
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使它具有某种直言不讳的质量,
09:57
and unfussy一切从简 sparenessspareness
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简洁而开阔,
09:58
that sort分类 of pleased满意 me.
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这有点令我高兴。
10:01
You know, at times of technical技术 innovation革新,
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要知道,在技术创新的时代,
10:04
designers设计师 want to be influenced影响
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设计师们希望受到
10:05
by what's in the air空气.
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当时环境的影响。
10:07
We want to respond响应. We want to be pushed
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我们想要回应。
我们想要被迫去探索新的东西。
10:09
into exploring探索 something new.
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10:12
So Charter宪章 is a sort分类 of parable寓言 for me, really.
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因此Charter字体对我来说真有点象个寓言。
10:15
In the end结束, there was no hard and fast快速 causal因果 link链接
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最后,在技术和Charter字体的设计之间
10:19
between之间 the technology技术 and the design设计 of Charter宪章.
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没有硬性的因果联系。
10:22
I had really misunderstood误解 the technology技术.
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我确实是误解了技术。
10:26
The technology技术 did suggest建议 something to me,
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技术确实向我提出了些什么,
10:29
but it did not force my hand,
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但并没有强迫我,
10:32
and I think this happens发生 very often经常.
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我想这种情况时常发生。
10:34
You know, engineers工程师 are very smart聪明,
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要知道,工程师们非常聪明,
10:37
and despite尽管 occasional偶然 frustrations挫折
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尽管偶尔受挫折,
10:38
because I'm less smart聪明,
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因为我不够聪明,
10:40
I've always enjoyed享受 working加工 with them
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我总喜欢和他们一起工作
10:42
and learning学习 from them.
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并向他们学习。
10:44
Apropos恰好的, in the mid-'中-'90s,
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恰好在90年代中期,
10:46
I started开始 talking to Microsoft微软
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我开始向微软
10:49
about screen屏幕 fonts字体.
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谈起屏幕字体。
10:51
Up to that point, all the fonts字体 on screen屏幕
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当时,屏幕上的所有字体
10:54
had been adapted适应 from previously先前 existing现有
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都由先前已有的印刷字体
10:56
printing印花 fonts字体, of course课程.
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改编而来。
10:59
But Microsoft微软 foresaw预见 correctly正确地
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但微软正确地预见到了
11:01
the movement运动, the stampede踩踏
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这个潮流,
11:03
towards electronic电子 communication通讯,
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电子通信的热潮,
11:06
to reading and writing写作 onscreen在屏幕上
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在屏幕上进行读写的趋势,
11:08
with the printed印刷的 output产量 as being存在 sort分类 of secondary次要
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而打印输出成为了次要的。
11:11
in importance重要性.
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11:14
So the priorities优先 were just tipping小费 at that point.
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这种优先级当时才露端倪。
11:17
They wanted a small core核心 set of fonts字体
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他们想要的是一小组核心字体,
11:19
that were not adapted适应 but designed设计 for the screen屏幕
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不是改编而来的,
而是专门针对屏幕的问题而设计的,
11:23
to face面对 up to the problems问题 of screen屏幕,
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11:25
which哪一个 were their coarse resolution解析度 displays显示器.
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就是那些低分辨率的显示器。
11:29
I said to Microsoft微软, a typeface字体 designed设计
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我对微软说,
为某种特定的技术而设计的字体
11:33
for a particular特定 technology技术
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11:34
is a self-obsoleting自obsoleting typeface字体.
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是自我淘汰的字体。
11:38
I've designed设计 too many许多 faces面孔 in the past过去
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过去我设计过太多字体
11:40
that were intended to mitigate减轻 technical技术 problems问题.
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意在减轻技术问题。
11:43
Thanks谢谢 to the engineers工程师, the
technical技术 problems问题 went away.
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多亏了工程师们,技术问题不存在了。
11:46
So did my typeface字体.
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我的字体也不存在了。
11:49
It was only a stopgap权宜之计.
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这只是个临时措施。
11:52
Microsoft微软 came来了 back to say that
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微软回过来说
11:53
affordable实惠 computer电脑 monitors显示器
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价格实惠的有着更好的分辨率的
11:55
with better resolutions决议
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电脑显示器
11:56
were at least最小 a decade away.
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至少还要等十年。
11:59
So I thought, well, a decade, that's not bad,
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所以,我想, 好吧,十年,不太坏,
12:01
that's more than a stopgap权宜之计.
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不能算是个临时措施。
12:04
So I was persuaded说服了, I was convinced相信,
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所以我被说服了,
12:06
and we went to work on what became成为 Verdana宋体
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我们着手工作,
做出了Verdana字体和Georgia字体,
12:08
and Georgia格鲁吉亚,
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12:10
for the first time working加工 not on paper
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第一次不是在纸上工作
12:12
but directly onto the screen屏幕 from the pixel像素 up.
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而是直接从像素到屏幕。
12:16
At that time, screens屏幕 were binary二进制.
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当时,屏幕是二进制的。
12:20
The pixel像素 was either on or it was off.
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像素或亮或灭。
12:23
Here you see the outline大纲 of a letter,
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这里你们看到字母的轮廓,
12:26
the cap H,
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大写的H,
12:27
which哪一个 is the thin black黑色 line线, the contour轮廓,
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细黑线是它的轮廓,
12:30
which哪一个 is how it is stored存储 in memory记忆,
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这也是它在存储器里的样子,
12:33
superimposed叠加 on the bitmap位图,
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叠加在点阵字体上,
12:35
which哪一个 is the grey灰色 area,
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即灰色区域,
12:37
which哪一个 is how it's displayed显示 on the screen屏幕.
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这就是它在屏幕上显示的样子。
12:39
The bitmap位图 is rasterized光栅化 from the outline大纲.
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点阵字体是从轮廓点阵化而来的。
12:42
Here in a cap H, which哪一个 is all straight直行 lines线,
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在大写的H里,全部都是直线,
12:44
the two are in almost几乎 perfect完善 sync同步
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在直角坐标网格上
12:46
on the Cartesian笛卡尔 grid.
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两者近乎完美同步。
12:50
Not so with an O.
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O可就不是这样啦。
12:53
This looks容貌 more like bricklaying瓦工
than type类型 design设计,
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这个看起来更像是砌砖而不是字体设计,
12:56
but believe me, this is a good bitmap位图 O,
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但相信我,这是一个好的点阵字体O,
12:59
for the simple简单 reason原因 that it's symmetrical对称
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原因很简单,
13:01
in both x and y axes.
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在X轴和Y轴上都是对称的。
13:04
In a binary二进制 bitmap位图, you actually其实 can't ask
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在二进制的点阵字体里,
13:06
for more than that.
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你实际上不能要求更多了。
13:08
I would sometimes有时 make, I don't know,
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我有时会为一个难字母
13:11
three or four different不同 versions版本 of a difficult letter
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设计三个或四个版本,
13:13
like a lowercase小写 A,
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像小写的a,
13:14
and then stand back to choose选择 which哪一个 was the best最好.
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再退回去选出最好的一个。
13:18
Well, there was no best最好,
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其实没有最好的。
13:20
so the designer's设计师 judgment判断 comes in
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所以这里需要设计师的判断,
13:23
in trying to decide决定
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来设法决定
13:24
which哪一个 is the least最小 bad.
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哪个是最不坏的。
13:27
Is that a compromise妥协?
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这是一种妥协吗?
13:29
Not to me, if you are working加工
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对我来说不是,
13:31
at the highest最高 standard标准 the technology技术 will allow允许,
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如果你是按技术所允许的最高标准来工作,
13:34
although虽然 that standard标准 may可能 be
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尽管这个标准
13:36
well short of the ideal理想.
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可能不够理想。
13:39
You may可能 be able能够 to see on this slide滑动
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你或许能看到这张幻灯片上
13:40
two different不同 bitmap位图 fonts字体 there.
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有两个不同的点阵字体。
13:42
The "a" in the upper one, I think,
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我觉得上方的“a”
13:44
is better than the "a" in the lower降低 one,
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比下方的“a”要好,
13:46
but it still ain't great.
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但仍不够优秀。
13:49
You can maybe see the effect影响 better
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如果缩小它,你们或许能更好地看出这种效果。
13:51
if it's reduced减少. Well, maybe not.
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也许看不出来。
13:54
So I'm a pragmatist实用主义者, not an idealist理想主义者,
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所以,我是一个出于需要的实用主义者,
13:56
out of necessity必要性.
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而不是一个理想主义者。
13:58
For a certain某些 kind of temperament气质,
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有些事情无法完美
14:00
there is a certain某些 kind of satisfaction满意
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但尽你所能仍可完成,
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in doing something that cannot不能 be perfect完善
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就某种气质而言,
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but can still be doneDONE to the best最好 of your ability能力.
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做这些事情时存在一种满足感。
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Here's这里的 the lowercase小写 H from Georgia格鲁吉亚 Italic斜体.
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这是用Georgia斜体的小写h。
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The bitmap位图 looks容貌 jagged盘陀 and rough.
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这个点阵看起来参差不齐,还粗糙。
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It is jagged盘陀 and rough.
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它的确参差不齐和粗糙。
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But I discovered发现, by experiment实验,
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但我通过实验发现,
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that there is an optimum最佳 slant倾斜
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屏幕上的斜体
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for an italic斜体 on a screen屏幕
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有一个最佳倾斜
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so the strokes break打破 well
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以致笔画刚好
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at the pixel像素 boundaries边界.
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在像素边界断开。
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Look in this example how, rough as it is,
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看这个例子,多粗糙,
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how the left and right legs
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左腿和右腿
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actually其实 break打破 at the same相同 level水平.
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实际上怎样在同一水平分开。
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That's a victory胜利. That's good, right there.
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那是个胜利。那很好,就是那儿。
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And of course课程, at the lower降低 depths深处,
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当然在更低深度,
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you don't get much choice选择.
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你就没有多少选择了。
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This is an S, in case案件 you were wondering想知道.
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这是S,万一你想知道。
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Well, it's been 18 years年份 now
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那么, 自从Verdana和Georgia字体发行以来,
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since以来 Verdana宋体 and Georgia格鲁吉亚 were released发布.
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现在已经18年了。
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Microsoft微软 were absolutely绝对 right,
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微软完全是对的,
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it took a good 10 years年份,
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花了整整10年,
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but screen屏幕 displays显示器 now do have
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但屏幕显示现在确实
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improved改善 spatial空间的 resolution解析度,
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改进了空间分辨率,
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and very much improved改善 photometric光度 resolution解析度
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也大大改进了光度分辨率,
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thanks谢谢 to anti-aliasing抗锯齿 and so on.
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多亏了反锯齿等技术。
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So now that their mission任务 is accomplished完成,
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所以现在它们的使命完成了,
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has that meant意味着 the demise让位
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是不是意味着
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of the screen屏幕 fonts字体 that I designed设计
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那时我为较粗糙的显示器所设计的
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for coarser粗糙 displays显示器 back then?
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屏幕字体就消亡了呢?
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Will they outlive活得比 the now-obsolete目前已过时 screens屏幕
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它们的寿命会超过现已过时的屏幕
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and the flood洪水 of new web卷筒纸 fonts字体
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和大量涌向市场的
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coming未来 on to the market市场?
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新网页字体吗?
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Or have they established既定 their own拥有
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还是他们已经建立了自己的
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sort分类 of evolutionary发展的 niche壁龛
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某种不依赖技术的
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that is independent独立 of technology技术?
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进化生态位呢?
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In other words, have they been absorbed吸收
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换句话说,是否它们已被并入了
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into the typographic印刷 mainstream主流?
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排版的主流了呢?
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I'm not sure, but they've他们已经 had a good run so far.
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我不确定,但到目前为止运行良好。
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Hey, 18 is a good age年龄 for anything
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嘿,以现今的淘汰率来看,
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with present-day今天 rates利率 of attrition摩擦,
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18对于任何东西都是个不错的年纪了,
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so I'm not complaining抱怨的.
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所以我不抱怨。
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Thank you.
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谢谢。
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(Applause掌声)
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(掌声)
Translated by Catherine Gu
Reviewed by Qingqing Mao

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Matthew Carter - Type designer
Even if you don’t recognize his name, chances are you’ve seen Matthew Carter’s work -- his type designs include some of the world’s most familiar digital typefaces.

Why you should listen

MacArthur Fellow Matthew Carter started his career as a punchcutter, a print artisan who physically carves each letter into metal. He had already designed several legendary typefaces (in 1975, he created Bell Centennial for use in phone books) when he stepped into the digital design ring. As part of a project undertaken for Microsoft, Carter created early and successful examples of screen type emphasizing clarity and ease of long-term viewing, including the familiar Verdana, Galliard and Georgia. A recent work is MS Sitka, a family of digital fonts that are built to be readable at many sizes in print and onscreen.

Print and online publications such as Sports Illustrated, Newsweek, Wired and the Washington Post have all commissioned Carter fonts, leading Microsoft's typography blog to call him "the person who shapes the way we read about the world."

Carter is a principal of Carter & Cone Type Inc., a Cambridge, Massachusetts-based company specializing in designing and producing original typefaces. As he says: "A typeface is a beautiful collection of letters, not a collection of beautiful letters."

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