ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Dread Scott - Visual artist
Dread Scott makes revolutionary art to propel history forward.

Why you should listen

Dread Scott's work is exhibited across the US and internationally. In 1989, his art became the center of national controversy over its transgressive use of the American flag, while he was a student at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago. President G.H.W. Bush called his art "disgraceful," and the entire US Senate denounced and outlawed this work. Scott became part of a landmark Supreme Court case when he and others defied the new law by burning flags on the steps of the US Capitol. His studio is now based in Brooklyn. 

Scott's work has been included in exhibitions at New York's MoMA PS1, the Walker Art Center, Minneapolis and Gallery MOMO in Cape Town, South Africa. His performance work has been presented at BAM in Brooklyn and on the streets of Harlem, NY. His work is in the collection of the Whitney Museum of American Art and the Brooklyn Museum, and it has been featured on the cover of Artforum magazine and the front page of NYTimes.com. Scott is a recipient of a 2018 United States Artists Fellowship and grants from the Creative Capital Foundation and the Open Society Institute. He works in a range of media, from performance and photography to screen-printing and video.   

Scott plays with fire -- metaphorically and sometimes literally -- as when he burned $171 on Wall Street and encouraged those with money to add theirs to the pyre. His work asks viewers to look soberly at America's past and our present. Writing about a recent banner project, Angelica Rogers wrote in the New York Times: "...it was difficult to look away from the flag's blocky, capitalized type. 'A Man Was Lynched by Police Yesterday.' It shouted the words so matter-of-factly that I felt myself physically flinch."

Scott is currently working on Slave Rebellion Reenactment, a community engaged performance that will reenact the largest rebellion of enslaved people in American History.

More profile about the speaker
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Dread Scott: How art can shape America's conversation about freedom

斯科特: 艺术如何塑造美国关于自由的对话

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在这个简短的演讲中,视觉艺术家斯科特讲述了他的一个最令人不安的艺术作品背后的故事。这个作品引起了全国关注,因为它有争议地使用了美国国旗,并在美国最高法院引发了一场具有里程碑意义的,涉及第一修正案的讨论。
- Visual artist
Dread Scott makes revolutionary art to propel history forward. Full bio

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I am a visual视觉 artist艺术家,
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我是一个视觉艺术家,
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and I make revolutionary革命的 art艺术
to propel推进 history历史 forward前锋.
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我创造革命性的艺术来推动历史前进。
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I'm going to come right out
and tell you something:
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我马上就会告诉你们一些事情:
我不接受美国的经济基础,
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I don't accept接受 the economic经济 foundation基础,
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社交关系,
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the social社会 relations关系
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或执政理念等东西。
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or the governing治理 ideas思路 of America美国.
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My art艺术 contributes有助于 to fundamental基本的 change更改
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我的艺术通过鼓励观众从这个角度
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by encouraging鼓舞人心的 an audience听众 to address地址
big questions问题 from that perspective透视.
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来解决大问题,从而促成根本性的改变。
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Social社会 change更改 is hard,
but ideas思路 matter tremendously异常.
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社交变革困难,但思想非常重要。
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When I say I'm an artist艺术家,
most people think, "Oh, he's a painter画家."
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当我说:“我是个艺术家”,
很多人会想,“哦,他是个画家”。
我身后的舞台布景展示了
我做的一些工作。
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Behind背后 me, you can see
some of the kind of work I do.
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“想象一个没有美国的世界”是一幅画,
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"Imagine想像 a World世界
Without没有 America美国" is a painting绘画,
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but I work in a range范围 of media媒体,
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其制作过程包含了多种媒体,
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including包含 photography摄影,
video视频 and performance性能 art艺术.
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包括图片,视频和行为艺术。
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A current当前 project项目,
"Slave奴隶 Rebellion暴动 Reenactment重演,"
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一个正在进行的项目,
“奴隶起义的重现”,
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is going to be reenacted重演
on the outskirts郊区 of New Orleans奥尔良
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9月将会在新奥尔良郊区
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this November十一月.
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再次上演。
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In 1989, I had an artwork艺术品 that became成为
the center中央 of controversy争议
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在1989年,我有一件
艺术作品成为了关于
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over its transgressive海侵 use
of the American美国 flag.
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美国国旗过度使用的争论焦点。
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"What is the Proper正确 Way
to Display显示 a US Flag?"
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“什么是展示美国国旗的正确方式?”
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is a conceptual概念上的 work that encouraged鼓励
audience听众 participation参与.
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是一项鼓励观众参与的概念性工作。
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It consisted of a photo照片 montage剪辑
that had text文本 that read,
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它包含了一组照片,上面用文字写着:
“什么是展示美国国旗的正确方式?”
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"What is the Proper正确 Way
to Display显示 a US Flag?"
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Below下面 that were books图书 that people
could write responses回复 to that question in,
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下面是人们可以针对这个问题
进行回应的本子,
下方是一张人们可以选择
站在上面的旗帜。
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and below下面 that was a flag
that people had the option选项 of standing常设 on.
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The photo照片 montage剪辑 consisted
of images图片 of South Korean朝鲜的 students学生们
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这组照片包含了韩国学生
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burning燃烧 American美国 flags,
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焚烧美国国旗的照片,
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holding保持 signs迹象 that said,
"Yankee扬基 go home. Son儿子 of a bitch婊子,"
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举着牌子,上面写着:
“洋基回家。婊子养的。”
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and below下面 that were flag-draped旗帜垂坠 coffins棺材
coming未来 back from Vietnam越南.
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其下则是从越南运回来的
覆盖着国旗的棺材。
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People wrote long and short answers答案.
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人们写下了或长或短的答案。
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Thousands成千上万 of people engaged订婚 with the work
in a lot of different不同 languages语言.
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成千上万的人用不同的语言
参与了这场活动。
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Some of the people said,
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有些人说,
“我是个德国女孩,
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"I'm a German德语 girl女孩.
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If we Germans德国 would admire欣赏
our flag as you all do,
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如果德国人像你们那样
崇拜我们的国旗,
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we would be called Nazis纳粹 again.
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我们会被再次叫做纳粹。
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I think you do have too much
trouble麻烦 about this flag."
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我认为你这面国旗有太多的问题。”
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"I think that the artist艺术家
should be returned to his heritage遗产,
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“我觉得这个艺术家应该回到他老家去,
比如,非洲丛林,
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i.e., the jungles丛林 of Africa非洲,
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and then he can shovel manure肥料
in his artistic艺术的 way."
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在那儿他可以用他的艺术来铲粪”。
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"This flag I'm standing常设 on stands站立 for
everything oppressive压抑 in this system系统:
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“我所站的这面旗帜代表了
这个系统所有的压迫:
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the murder谋杀 of the Indians印度人
and all the oppressed压迫 around the world世界,
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对印第安人的屠杀和对全球的压迫,
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including包含 my brother哥哥
who was shot射击 by a pig,
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包括我那个被一只蠢猪枪击的兄弟,
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who kicked over his body身体
to 'make' 使 sure the nigger黑 鬼 was dead.'
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蠢猪踢了他尸体一脚,
以“确保黑鬼已经死了。”
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That pig was wearing穿着 the flag.
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那头猪就披着这个国旗。
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Thank you, Dread恐惧 Scott斯科特,
for this opportunity机会."
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谢谢你给予的这个机会,斯科特。”
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"As a veteran老将 defending卫冕 the flag,
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“作为一名捍卫国旗的老兵,
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I personally亲自 would never
defend保卫 your stupid ass屁股!
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我个人永远不会为你这头蠢驴辩护!
你应该被枪杀!“
——美国海军海豹突击队。
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You should be shot射击!" -- US Navy海军 Seal密封 Team球队.
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As you can see, people had
very strong强大 reactions反应 about the flag then,
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如你所见,那时人们
对国旗有强烈的反应,
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as they do now.
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就如他们现在一样。
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There were demonstrations示威 of veterans老兵
in front面前 of the Art艺术 Institute研究所 of Chicago芝加哥.
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在芝加哥艺术学院的前面还有
一些退伍军人的示威游行。
他们高呼诸如这样的口号,
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They chanted高呼 things like,
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“国旗和艺术家,把它们都吊起来”
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"The flag and the artist艺术家,
hang them both high,"
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这种唤起私刑的画面。
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evoking唤起 images图片 of lynching私刑.
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I received收到 numerous众多 death死亡 threats威胁,
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我收到了无数的死亡威胁,
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and bomb炸弹 threats威胁
were phoned打电话给 in to my school学校.
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炸弹威胁电话打到了我的学校。
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It was a very dangerous危险 situation情况.
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境况已经极度危险了。
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Later后来, President主席 Bush衬套 called
the work "disgraceful可耻,"
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后来,布什总统说:
“这个艺术作品是“可耻的”,
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which哪一个 I viewed观看 as a tremendous巨大 honor荣誉,
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我却视之为无尽的荣耀,
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and Congress国会 outlawed取缔 the work.
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国会还宣布这个艺术作品为非法。
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(Laughter笑声)
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(笑声)
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I became成为 part部分 of a Supreme最高 Court法庭 case案件
when I and others其他 defied蔑视 that law,
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当我和其他人违反法律,
在国会大厦的台阶上焚烧国旗时,
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by burning燃烧 flags
on the steps脚步 of the Capitol国会大厦.
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我成为了最高法院案例中的一员。
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That action行动 and the subsequent随后
legal法律 and political政治 battle战斗
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这一行动以及随后的法律和政治斗争,
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led to a landmark里程碑 First Amendment修订 decision决定
that prevented防止 the government政府
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导致了一项具有里程碑意义的
涉及宪法第一修正案的决定,
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from demanding严格
patriotism爱国主义 be mandatory强制性.
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该决定阻止了政府要求
爱国主义的强制性。
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But let me back up a bit.
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但让我退回去一点。
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These people literally按照字面 wanted me dead.
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这些人是真希望我死。
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What I would do at this moment时刻
would make a difference区别.
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我现在要做的事情会有所不同。
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This is me at the exact精确 same相同 moment时刻,
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这是我在同一时刻,
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eight stories故事 above以上 that crowd人群.
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在那群人所在位置附近的
八层楼的楼顶。
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It was supposed应该 to be for a photo照片 shoot射击
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它应该是
在老兵们当时所在的台阶上拍的。
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that was going to take place地点 on the steps脚步
where the veterans老兵 were at that time.
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不夸张地说,我在那里是不安全的。
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It wouldn't不会 have been safe安全
for me to be there, to say the least最小.
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但是拍摄这组照片真的很重要,
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But it was really important重要
to do that shoot射击,
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因为虽然有人想杀我,但这也让那些
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because while some wanted to kill me,
it was also a situation情况
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认为美国国旗象征着
这个系统一切压迫的
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where those who viewed观看 the American美国 flag
as standing常设 for everything oppressive压抑
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人觉得
他们有自己的声音,
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in this system系统
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felt that they had a voice语音,
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而这种声音需要被放大。
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and that voice语音 needed需要 to be amplified放大.
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The point is this:
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我的观点是这样的:
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changing改变 anything --
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改变任何事情——
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whether是否 it's conventional常规 ideas思路
about US national国民 symbols符号,
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不管是关于美国国家象征的传统观点,
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traditional传统 thinking思维 challenged挑战
by scientific科学 breakthroughs突破
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科学突破的传统思维挑战,
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or ousting下台 an authoritarian独裁的 president主席 --
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或者推翻独裁总统——
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requires要求 a lot of things.
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需要很多东西。
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It requires要求 courage勇气,
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它要求勇气,
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luck运气
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运气,
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and also vision视力 and boldness魄力 of action行动.
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还有远见和大胆的行动。
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But on luck运气 --
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但关于运气——
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I have to say, the photo照片 shoot射击 we did
might威力 not have worked工作 out so well.
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我不得不说,我们拍的
照片可能效果不太好。
离开这个地区后,我们都笑了。
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We laughed笑了 after we were out of the area.
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But the thing is, it was worth价值 the risk风险
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但问题是,它值得冒这个险,
因为涉及到的利害关系。
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because of the stakes赌注 that were involved参与.
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And in this case案件, the luck运气
led to a wonderful精彩,
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在这种情况下,运气带来了一种奇妙、
深刻和强大的情境,
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profound深刻 and powerful强大 situation情况
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同时也很幽默。
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that was also humorous幽默.
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Thank you.
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谢谢。
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(Applause掌声)
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(鼓掌)
Translated by jacks peng

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Dread Scott - Visual artist
Dread Scott makes revolutionary art to propel history forward.

Why you should listen

Dread Scott's work is exhibited across the US and internationally. In 1989, his art became the center of national controversy over its transgressive use of the American flag, while he was a student at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago. President G.H.W. Bush called his art "disgraceful," and the entire US Senate denounced and outlawed this work. Scott became part of a landmark Supreme Court case when he and others defied the new law by burning flags on the steps of the US Capitol. His studio is now based in Brooklyn. 

Scott's work has been included in exhibitions at New York's MoMA PS1, the Walker Art Center, Minneapolis and Gallery MOMO in Cape Town, South Africa. His performance work has been presented at BAM in Brooklyn and on the streets of Harlem, NY. His work is in the collection of the Whitney Museum of American Art and the Brooklyn Museum, and it has been featured on the cover of Artforum magazine and the front page of NYTimes.com. Scott is a recipient of a 2018 United States Artists Fellowship and grants from the Creative Capital Foundation and the Open Society Institute. He works in a range of media, from performance and photography to screen-printing and video.   

Scott plays with fire -- metaphorically and sometimes literally -- as when he burned $171 on Wall Street and encouraged those with money to add theirs to the pyre. His work asks viewers to look soberly at America's past and our present. Writing about a recent banner project, Angelica Rogers wrote in the New York Times: "...it was difficult to look away from the flag's blocky, capitalized type. 'A Man Was Lynched by Police Yesterday.' It shouted the words so matter-of-factly that I felt myself physically flinch."

Scott is currently working on Slave Rebellion Reenactment, a community engaged performance that will reenact the largest rebellion of enslaved people in American History.

More profile about the speaker
Dread Scott | Speaker | TED.com

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