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Paul Tasner: How I became an entrepreneur at 66
保羅泰斯納: 我如何在六十六歲時變成創業家
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徹底改造自己永不嫌晚。保羅泰斯納在持續為人作嫁四十年之後，以六十六歲的高齡成立了自己的新企業，結合他的事業點子、經驗及熱情。他並不孤單。在這場簡短有趣又鼓舞人心的演講中，他和我們分享：有越來越多的長者準備用他們的創業家直覺創造極大的成功。
Paul Tasner - Entrepreneur
TED Resident Paul Tasner is the co-founder and CEO of PulpWorks, Inc., designers and manufacturers of biodegradable packaging for consumer goods. Full bio
TED Resident Paul Tasner is the co-founder and CEO of PulpWorks, Inc., designers and manufacturers of biodegradable packaging for consumer goods. Full bio
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00:12
I'd like to take you back
about seven years in my life.
about seven years in my life.
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我想帶各位回到約七年前的人生點。
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Friday afternoon,
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星期五下午，
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a few days before Christmas 2009.
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2009 年，在聖誕節的前幾天，
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I was the director of operations
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我是舊金山一間
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at a consumer products company
in San Francisco,
in San Francisco,
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消費者產品公司的營運主任，
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and I was called into a meeting
that was already in progress.
that was already in progress.
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我被召喚去參與一個會議，
會議已經在進行中。
會議已經在進行中。
00:29
That meeting turned out
to be my exit interview.
to be my exit interview.
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結果，那個會議是我的辭退面談。
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I was fired, along with several others.
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我跟其他幾個人被開除了。
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I was 64 years old at the time.
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那時我 64 歲。
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It wasn't completely unexpected.
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我也不是完全沒預期到。
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I signed a stack of papers,
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我簽了一疊文件，
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gathered my personal effects,
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收拾我的私人物品，
00:46
and left to join my wife
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離開公司，去和我老婆會合，
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who was waiting for me
at a nearby restaurant,
at a nearby restaurant,
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她在附近的餐廳等我，
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completely unaware.
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她完全不知道此事。
00:53
Fast-forward several hours,
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把時間快轉七小時，
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we both got really silly drunk.
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我們兩個都醉到腦筋不清楚了。
00:57
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
01:00
So, 40 plus years of continuous employment
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所以，連續四十多年的職涯，
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for a variety of companies,
large and small,
large and small,
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做過大大小小的各種公司，
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was over.
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結束了。
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I had a good a network,
a good reputation --
a good reputation --
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我有好人脈、好名聲──
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I thought I'd be just fine.
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原本以為我不會有事的。
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I was an engineer
in manufacturing and packaging.
in manufacturing and packaging.
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我曾是製造和包裝的工程師，
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I had a good background.
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有不錯的學經歷背景。
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Retirement was, like for so many people,
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和許多人一樣，對我來說，
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simply not an option for me.
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退休根本不在我的選項中。
01:26
So I turned to consulting
for the next couple of years
for the next couple of years
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所以接下來幾年，我轉任顧問，
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without any passion whatsoever.
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沒有任何的熱情。
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And then an idea began to take root,
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接著，一個點子開始生根，
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born from my concern for our environment.
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源自於我對於我們周圍環境的關心。
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I wanted to build my own business,
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我想建造我自己的事業，
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designing and manufacturing
biodegradable packaging from waste --
biodegradable packaging from waste --
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用廢物來設計製造
生物能分解的包裝──
生物能分解的包裝──
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paper, agricultural, even textile waste --
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用的是紙、農業、甚至紡織廢物──
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replacing the toxic,
disposable plastic packaging
disposable plastic packaging
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取代有毒且用完就丟的塑膠包裝，
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to which we've all become addicted.
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我們都太習慣用這類包裝了。
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This is called clean technology,
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這叫做乾淨科技，
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and it felt really meaningful to me.
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我覺得對我而言很有意義。
02:01
A venture that could help to reduce
the billions of pounds
the billions of pounds
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這個企業能協助減少每年被丟棄的
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of single-use plastic packaging
dumped each year
dumped each year
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數十萬磅的單次使用塑膠包裝，
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and polluting our land,
our rivers and our oceans,
our rivers and our oceans,
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這些包裝在污染我們的
大地、河流、海洋，
大地、河流、海洋，
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and left for future
generations to resolve --
generations to resolve --
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且把問題丟給我們
未來的世代去解決──
未來的世代去解決──
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our grandchildren,
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我們的孫子孫女，
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my grandchildren.
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我的孫子孫女。
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And so now at the age of 66,
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所以，我 66 歲時，
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with 40 years of experience,
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帶著 40 年的經驗，
02:24
I became an entrepreneur
for the very first time.
for the very first time.
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我變成了初次創業的企業家。
02:27
(Cheers)
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（歡呼）
02:28
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
02:31
Thank you.
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謝謝。
02:34
But there's more.
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但還不只如此。
02:35
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
02:39
Lots of issues to deal with:
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有很多事要處理：
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manufacturing, outsourcing, job creation,
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製造、發包、工作分配、
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patents, partnerships, funding --
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商標、合夥關係、資金──
02:50
these are all typical
issues for a start-up,
issues for a start-up,
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這些都是新公司的典型議題，
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but hardly typical for me.
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但對我來說毫不典型。
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And a word about funding.
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簡單談談資金。
02:57
I live and work in San Francisco.
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我在舊金山定居和工作。
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And if you're looking for funding,
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如果你要找資金，
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you are typically going to compete
with some very young people
with some very young people
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通常你得和一些來自高科技產業
非常年輕的人競爭，
03:05
from the high-tech industry,
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and it can be very discouraging
and intimidating.
and intimidating.
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過程相當令人害怕和沮喪。
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I have shoes older
than most of these people.
than most of these people.
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我有年歲比他們長的鞋子。
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(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
03:19
I do.
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是真的。
03:20
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
03:21
But five years later,
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但，五年後，
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I'm thrilled and proud to share with you
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我很興奮也很榮幸能和各位分享，
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that our revenues have doubled every year,
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我們的營收每年倍增，
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we have no debt,
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我們沒有債務，
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we have several marquee clients,
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我們有幾個名稱響亮的客戶，
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our patent was issued,
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我們的專利已經被核發下來，
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I have a wonderful partner
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我有個很棒的合作夥伴，
03:36
who's been with me
right from the beginning,
right from the beginning,
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他從一開始就跟我一起打拼，
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and we've won more than 20 awards
for the work that we've done.
for the work that we've done.
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我們的努力已經贏得了
超過二十個獎項。
超過二十個獎項。
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But best of all,
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但，最棒的是，
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we've made a small dent --
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我們做出了小小的貢獻──
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a very small dent --
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在全球塑膠污染危機的年代，
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in the worldwide plastic pollution crisis.
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我們做出了小小的貢獻。
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(Applause)
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（掌聲）
03:55
And I am doing the most rewarding
and meaningful work of my life right now.
and meaningful work of my life right now.
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此時做的是我人生中
最有益也最有意義的工作。
最有益也最有意義的工作。
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I can tell you there's lots of resources
available to entrepreneurs of all ages,
available to entrepreneurs of all ages,
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我可以告訴各位，現在有很多資源
可以讓各年齡層的創業家取用，
可以讓各年齡層的創業家取用，
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but what I really yearned for
five years ago
five years ago
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但我五年前就很渴望
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was to find other first-time entrepreneurs
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想找其他和我同年齡的初次創業者
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who were my age.
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I wanted to connect with them.
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我想和他們連結。
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I had no role models, absolutely none.
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當時我沒有學習的榜樣，完全沒有。
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That 20-something app developer
from Silicon Valley
from Silicon Valley
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來自矽谷的二十多歲應用程式開發者
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was not my role model.
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不是我的榜樣。
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(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
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I'm sure he was very clever --
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我確知他很聰明──
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(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
04:29
I want to do something about that,
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我希望能為社會做點什麼，
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and I want all of us
to do something about that.
to do something about that.
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我希望我們都能為社會做點貢獻。
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I want us to start talking more
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我更想跟大家談談
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about people who don't become
entrepreneurs until they are seniors.
entrepreneurs until they are seniors.
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那些直到年紀大了才創業的人。
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Talking about these bold
men and women who are checking in
men and women who are checking in
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談談我們這些大膽的男女長者，
在同儕退休的年齡
投入創業領域的這群人；
投入創業領域的這群人；
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when their peers, in essence,
are checking out.
are checking out.
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And then connecting all these people
across industries, across regions,
across industries, across regions,
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以及如何連結所有這些人，
跨產業、跨地區和跨國家，
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across countries --
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building a community.
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並建立起一個社群。
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You know, the Small Business
Administration tells us
Administration tells us
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聯邦小企業管理局告訴我們，
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that 64 percent of new jobs
created in the private sector in the USA
created in the private sector in the USA
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64% 美國私人企業的新工作，
來自我們這種小型私人企業公司。
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are thanks to small businesses like mine.
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And who's to say
that we'll stay forever small?
that we'll stay forever small?
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而且，誰說我們會永遠都很小？
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We have an interesting culture
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我們有個很有趣的文化，
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that really expects
when you reach a certain age,
when you reach a certain age,
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大部分人認為當你達到某個年齡時，
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you're going to be golfing,
or playing checkers,
or playing checkers,
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就只會打高爾夫球、玩西洋棋、
05:12
or babysitting the grandkids
all of the time.
all of the time.
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或隨時得幫忙照顧孫子孫女。
05:15
And I adore my grandchildren --
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雖然我很喜歡我的孫子孫女──
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(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
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and I'm also passionate
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但我也很熱衷
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about doing something meaningful
in the global marketplace.
in the global marketplace.
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想要在全球市場上做些有意義的事。
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And I'm going to have lots of company.
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不久的將來，有很多人會跟我一樣。
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The Census Bureau says that by 2050,
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人口普查局說，到 2050 年，
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there will be 84 million seniors
in this country.
in this country.
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我國將會有 8400 萬名老年人。
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That's an amazing number.
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那是個很驚人的數字。
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That's almost twice as many
as we have today.
as we have today.
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幾乎是現今的兩倍。
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Can you imagine how many
first-time entrepreneurs there will be
first-time entrepreneurs there will be
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你們能想像 8400 萬人當中
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among 84 million people?
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會有多少人首次創業嗎？
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And they'll all have
four decades of experience.
four decades of experience.
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且他們都有四十年的經驗。
05:48
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
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So when I say, "Let's start talking more
about these wonderful entrepreneurs,"
about these wonderful entrepreneurs,"
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所以，當我說「多聊聊
這些優質的創業家」時，
這些優質的創業家」時，
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I mean, let's talk about their ventures,
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意思是，我們來談談他們的創投，
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just as we do the ventures
of their much younger counterparts.
of their much younger counterparts.
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如同我們談論那些遠比他們
年輕許多的創業家的創投。
年輕許多的創業家的創投。
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The older entrepreneurs in this country
have a 70 percent success rate
have a 70 percent success rate
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我國的年長創業家
開創新企業的成功率是 70% 。
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starting new ventures.
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70 percent success rate.
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70% 的成功率。
06:13
We're like the Golden State Warriors
of entrepreneurs --
of entrepreneurs --
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我們就像創業家中的金州勇士隊──
06:16
(Laughter)
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(Applause)
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06:20
And that number plummets to 28 percent
for younger entrepreneurs.
for younger entrepreneurs.
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而年輕創業家的成功率落到 28%。
06:25
This is according to a UK-based
group called CMI.
group called CMI.
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數據的來源是英國一個
名為 CMI 的團體。
名為 CMI 的團體。
06:29
Aren't the accomplishments
of a 70-year-old entrepreneur
of a 70-year-old entrepreneur
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七十歲創業家的成就
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every bit as meaningful,
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難道不是和三十歲創業家的成就
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every bit as newsworthy,
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一樣有意義，
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as the accomplishments
of a 30-year-old entrepreneur?
of a 30-year-old entrepreneur?
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一樣值得報導嗎？
06:38
Of course they are.
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當然是。
06:39
That's why I'd like to make the phrase
"70 over 70" just as --
"70 over 70" just as --
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那就是為什麼我想要讓
「70 位 70 歲以上菁英」這個詞──
「70 位 70 歲以上菁英」這個詞──
06:44
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
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just as commonplace
as the phrase "30 under 30."
as the phrase "30 under 30."
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和「30 位 30 歲以下菁英」 一樣普遍。
06:49
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
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Thank you.
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謝謝。
06:51
(Cheers)
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（歡呼）
06:52
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Paul Tasner - EntrepreneurTED Resident Paul Tasner is the co-founder and CEO of PulpWorks, Inc., designers and manufacturers of biodegradable packaging for consumer goods.
Why you should listen
PulpWorks, Inc. is the capstone in a 40-year career in supply chain management for Paul Tasner. He held leadership positions in procurement, manufacturing and logistics in ventures ranging from start-up to Fortune 100. Included among them are: The Clorox Company, California Closet Company, Method Products, Hepagen, OM2 and the Reclipse Group.
In 2008, Tasner founded and continues to lead the San Francisco Bay Area Green Supply Chain Forum -- the first such assembly of supply chain executives anywhere. He has authored many papers and presentations on supply chain sustainability and currently lectures on this timely topic in the MBA Programs at San Francisco State University and Golden Gate University.
Tasner is an Industrial Engineering graduate of the New Jersey Institute of Technology and holds a PhD in Mathematics from Boston University.
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