ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Kate Bowler - Divinity professor, author
Kate Bowler is reexamining her perspective on the "prosperity gospel": the belief that good things happen to good people.

Why you should listen

After being diagnosed with stage IV cancer at age 35, Duke tenured professor and author Kate Bowler launched a national conversation about why it feels so difficult to speak frankly about suffering. She delves into how we live and cope with pain and suffering in Everything Happens for a Reason: And Other Lies I've Loved, a New York Times bestselling memoir, and in her popular podcast, Everything Happens. She is also the author of Blessed: A History of the American Prosperity Gospel, which received widespread media and academic attention as the first history of a movement based on divine promises of health, wealth and happiness. She has appeared on NPR and The TODAY Show, Amanpour & Company as well as in the New York Times, Washington Post and TIME Magazine. Her work has also been praised by a wide variety of religious and political publications, from liberal print media to conservative talk radio.

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TEDMED 2018

Kate Bowler: "Everything happens for a reason" -- and other lies I've loved

凱特‧包樂: 「萬事皆有因」和其它我愛的謊言

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在人生最艱苦的時刻,你要怎麼活下去?凱特‧包樂於 35 歲被診斷出癌症末期後,就不斷在問這個問題。她在這場深刻、悲痛卻又意外好笑的演講中,提供了一些答案——挑戰「萬事皆有因」這個想法。她並分享辛苦得來的智慧,在人生突然完全改變後,如何看待這個世界。「我相信在黑暗中,即使在黑暗中,也有美好的事物,也有愛,」她如是說。
- Divinity professor, author
Kate Bowler is reexamining her perspective on the "prosperity gospel": the belief that good things happen to good people. Full bio

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00:12
There is some medical news新聞
that nobody沒有人, absolutely絕對 nobody沒有人,
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有些健康檢查消息是沒有人,
絕對沒有人準備好要聽的。
00:16
is prepared準備 to hear.
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I certainly當然 wasn't.
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至少我沒有準備好。
00:20
It was three years年份 ago
that I got a call in my office辦公室
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三年前,
我在辦公室接到一通電話,
00:24
with the test測試 results結果 of a recent最近 scan掃描.
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通知我剛做過的掃描結果。
00:27
I was 35 and finally最後 living活的
the life I wanted.
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那時我 35 歲,
終於過著自己想要的生活。
00:31
I married已婚 my high school學校 sweetheart愛人
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我嫁給從高中就開始交往的男朋友,
00:33
and had finally最後 gotten得到 pregnant
after years年份 of infertility不孕不育.
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多年不孕之後終於懷孕了。
00:38
And then suddenly突然 we had a Zach扎克,
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然後突然我們就有了查克,
00:41
a perfect完善 one-year-old一歲 boy男孩/dinosaur恐龍,
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完美無瑕的一歲男寶寶/恐龍,
00:44
depending根據 on his mood心情.
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看他那天的心情如何。
00:46
And having a Zach扎克 suited合適的 me perfectly完美.
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有查克太適合我了。
00:51
I had gotten得到 the first job工作
I applied應用的 for in academia學術界,
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我拿到了之前申請
學術界的第一份工作,
00:55
land土地 of a thousand crushed dreams.
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那可是充滿了破碎的夢的地方。
00:58
And there I was,
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我居然在那裡,
00:59
working加工 at my dream夢想 job工作
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做著我的夢想工作,
01:01
with my little baby寶寶
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還有個小寶寶,
01:03
and the man I had imported進口 from Canada加拿大.
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還有我從加拿大進口的男人。
01:06
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
01:07
But a few少數 months個月 before,
I'd started開始 feeling感覺 pain疼痛 in my stomach
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但是幾個月前,我開始有點胃痛,
01:10
and had gone走了 to every一切 expert專家
to find out why.
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遍訪專家要找出原因。
01:13
No one could tell me.
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沒有人能告訴我為什麼。
01:15
And then, out of the blue藍色,
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然後,晴天霹靂,
01:17
some physician's醫生 assistant助理
called me at work
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有位醫師助理
打電話到我工作的地方,
01:21
to tell me that I had stage階段 IVIV cancer癌症,
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說我得了末期癌症,
01:24
and that I was going to need
to come to the hospital醫院 right away.
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還說我要立刻就醫。
01:28
And all I could think of to say was,
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而我能想到要說的只有:
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"But I have a son兒子.
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「可是我有個兒子。
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I can't end結束.
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我不能死。
01:35
This world世界 can't end結束.
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這個世界不能結束。
01:38
It has just begun開始."
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它才剛開始。」
01:41
And then I called my husband丈夫,
and he rushed to find me
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然後我打電話給我先生,
他趕過來找我,
01:44
and I said all the true真正 things
that I have known已知.
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我對他說了所有我知道的真話,
01:46
I said, "I have loved喜愛 you forever永遠,
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我說:「我愛你愛了一輩子,
01:50
I have loved喜愛 you forever永遠.
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我愛你愛了一輩子。
01:51
I am so sorry.
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對不起。
01:53
Please take care關心 of our son兒子."
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請照顧我們的兒子。」
01:56
And then as I began開始
the walk步行 to the hospital醫院,
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然後,在我開始走路去醫院時,
01:59
it crossed越過 my mind心神 for the first time,
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有件事第一次閃過我的腦海,
02:02
"Oh. How ironic具有諷刺意味."
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喔。多諷刺啊!
02:05
I had just written書面
a book called "Blessed幸福."
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我才剛剛寫了一本書,叫《蒙福》。
02:09
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
02:12
I am a historian歷史學家
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我是歷史學家,
02:13
and an expert專家 in the idea理念
that good things happen發生 to good people.
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而且是「好人有好報」
這個想法的專家。
02:17
I research研究 a form形成 of Christianity基督教
nicknamed綽號 "the prosperity繁榮 gospel福音,"
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我研究一種基督教義,
暱稱「成功神學」,
02:21
for its very bold膽大 promise諾言
that God wants you to prosper繁榮.
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它非常大膽的承諾說神想要你成功。
02:25
I never considered考慮 myself
a follower信徒 of the prosperity繁榮 gospel福音.
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我從來不認為自己是
成功神學的信徒。
02:29
I was simply只是 an observer觀察者.
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我只是觀察者。
02:32
The prosperity繁榮 gospel福音 believes相信
that God wants to reward獎勵 you
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成功神學相信神要獎賞你,
02:35
if you have the right kind of faith信仰.
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因為你有正確的信仰。
02:37
If you're good and faithful可信,
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如果你良善又忠心,
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God will give you health健康 and wealth財富
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神會賜你健康及財富,
02:42
and boundless漫漫 happiness幸福.
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還有無窮盡的快樂。
02:44
Life is like a boomerang自食其果:
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生命就像迴力鏢:
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if you're good,
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如果你良善,
02:47
good things will always come back to you.
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美好的事物就會回到你身上。
02:50
Think positively積極. Speak說話 positively積極.
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思考要正向。說話也要正向。
02:53
Nothing is impossible不可能 if you believe.
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只要你相信,什麼都有可能。
02:58
I got interested有興趣 in this
very American美國 theology神學
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我開始對這種
非常美式的神學產生興趣,
03:01
when I was 18 or so,
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那時我十八歲左右,
03:03
and by 25 I was traveling旅行 the country國家
interviewing面試 its celebrities名人.
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二十五歲前,我已經在這個國家
四處訪問這方面的名人。
03:08
I spent花費 a decade talking to televangelists遠端傳道者
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我花了十年的時間與電視佈道家談論
03:11
with spiritual精神 guarantees擔保
for divine神聖 money.
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靈命如何保證屬天財富。
03:15
I interviewed採訪 countless無數 megachurch大型教堂 pastors牧師
with spectacular壯觀 hair頭髮
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我訪談了無數位大教會的牧師,
他們的髮型都好棒,
03:19
about how they live生活 their best最好 lives生活 now.
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談論他們如何在現在
活出最美好的人生。
03:23
I visited參觀 with people
in hospital醫院 waiting等候 rooms客房
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我去探訪在醫院等候室的人,
03:26
and plush長毛絨 offices辦事處.
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還有超豪華辦公室裡的人。
03:28
I held保持 hands with people in wheelchairs輪椅,
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我握著坐輪椅的人的手,
03:30
praying祈禱 to be cured治愈.
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禱告他們得醫治。
03:33
I earned my reputation聲譽
as destroyer驅逐艦 of family家庭 vacations休假
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我贏得「聲譽」,
被稱為家庭度假摧毀者,
03:37
for always insisting堅持 on being存在 dropped下降 off
at the fanciest最高檔 megachurch大型教堂 in town.
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因為我總是堅持要去當地
最漂亮的大教會坐坐。
03:42
If there was a river
running賽跑 through通過 the sanctuary避難所,
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只要那裡有小溪穿過教堂,
03:45
an eagle flying飛行 freely自如 in the auditorium禮堂,
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有老鷹在會堂裡自由飛翔,
03:48
or an enormous巨大 spinning紡織 golden金色 globe地球,
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或是有個超大的旋轉金球,
03:51
I was there.
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我都會出現。
03:54
When I first started開始 studying研究 this,
the whole整個 idea理念 of being存在 "blessed幸福"
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我開始研究這個的時候,
「領受祝福」這件事
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wasn't what it is today今天.
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跟今天完全不一樣。
04:00
It was not, like it is now,
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那時,不像現在,
04:02
an entire整個 line of "#blessed幸福" home goods產品.
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沒有整個「#蒙福」(#blessed)
系列的家居用品。
04:05
It was not yet然而 a flood洪水 of "#blessed幸福"
vanity虛榮 license執照 plates and T-shirtsT卹
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那時也沒有「#蒙福」
客製汽車牌照及短袖汗衫
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and neon wall art藝術.
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及霓虹壁貼裝飾。
04:13
I had no idea理念 that "blessed幸福" would become成為
one of the most common共同 cultural文化 cliches陳詞濫調,
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我完全不知道「蒙福」會成為
被說到爛的文化陳詞,
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one of the most used
hashtags主題標籤 on InstagramInstagram的,
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被用到爛的 Instagram 主題標籤,
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to celebrate慶祝 barely僅僅 there bikini比基尼泳裝 shots鏡頭,
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被拿來讚揚清涼比基尼照,
04:24
as if to say, "I am so blessed幸福.
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好像在說:「我真蒙福。
04:26
Thank you, Jesus耶穌, for this body身體."
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感謝耶穌給我這樣的身體。」
04:28
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
04:32
I had not yet然而 fully充分 grasped掌握
the way that the prosperity繁榮 gospel福音
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我還沒有完全掌握到成功神學
04:36
had become成為 the great civil國內 religion宗教,
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怎麼變成全民信仰,
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offering another另一個 transcendent超然 account帳戶
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給予美國夢的中心思想
另一個超然的根據。
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of the core核心 of the American美國 Dream夢想.
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04:44
Rather than worshipping崇拜
the founding創建 of America美國 itself本身,
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成功神學不是崇拜創建美國這件事,
04:47
the prosperity繁榮 gospel福音
worshipped崇拜 Americans美國人.
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而是崇拜美國人。
04:51
It deifies分德 and ritualizes儀式化 their hungers飢渴,
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它神化及儀式化美國人的渴望、
04:54
their hard work and moral道德 fiber纖維.
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勤奮及道德品質。
04:58
Americans美國人 believe in a gospel福音 of optimism樂觀,
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美國人信仰樂觀的福音,
05:01
and they are their own擁有 proof證明.
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而他們自身就是證明。
05:04
But despite儘管 telling告訴 myself,
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但是儘管我告訴自己
05:06
"I'm just studying研究 this stuff東東,
I'm nothing like them,"
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「我只是研究這玩意,
我跟他們不一樣,」
05:09
when I got my diagnosis診斷,
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當我得到診斷報告時,
05:11
I suddenly突然 understood了解
how deeply invested投資 I was
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我才突然明白我有多投入
05:15
in my own擁有 Horatio霍雷 Alger阿爾格 theology神學.
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我自己的霍瑞修·愛爾傑
努力就會成功的神學。
05:19
If you live生活 in this culture文化,
whether是否 you are religious宗教 or not,
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如果你住在這個文化裡,
不管你有沒有信仰,
05:22
it is extremely非常 difficult
to avoid避免 falling落下 into the trap陷阱
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都很難避免掉入
美德與成功肩並肩的思想陷阱裡。
05:26
of believing相信 that virtue美德
and success成功 go hand in hand.
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The more I stared盯著 down my diagnosis診斷,
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我愈盯著自己的診斷,
05:34
the more I recognized認可
that I had my own擁有 quiet安靜 version
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就愈認清原來我自己
對好人有好報這個想法
有一個低調的版本。
05:37
of the idea理念 that good things
happen發生 to good people.
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05:41
Aren't是不是 I good?
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我不是很良善嗎?
05:42
Aren't是不是 I special特別 somehow不知何故?
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我不是還算特別嗎?
05:45
I have committed提交 zero homicides殺人
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我還沒犯過謀殺罪,
05:47
to date日期.
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至少到目前為止!
05:49
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
05:51
(Applause掌聲)
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(掌聲)
05:53
So why is this happening事件 to me?
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所以這怎麼會發生在我身上?
05:56
I wanted God to make me good
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我希望上帝讓我變得良善,
05:58
and to reward獎勵 my faith信仰 with just a few少數
shining閃亮的 awards獎項 along沿 the way.
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並因我的信心而能
一路得幾個光輝的獎賞。
06:03
OK, like, a lot of shining閃亮的 awards獎項.
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好吧,我承認,很多光輝的獎賞。
06:05
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
06:06
I believed相信 that hardships艱辛
were only detours少走彎路
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我相信苦難只是讓我在
無庸置疑的漫漫人生中繞個路罷了。
06:09
on what I was certain某些 would be
my long, long life.
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06:14
As is this case案件 with many許多 of us,
it's a mindset心態 that served提供服務 me well.
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就像大多數人一樣,
這種心態對我很有幫助。
06:19
The gospel福音 of success成功 drove開車 me to achieve實現,
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成功神學驅使我有成就,
06:22
to dream夢想 big,
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作遠大的夢,
06:23
to abandon放棄 fear恐懼.
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放下恐懼。
06:26
It was a mindset心態 that served提供服務 me well
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這種心態對我很有幫助,
06:28
until直到 it didn't,
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直到無用為止,
06:30
until直到 I was confronted面對 with something
I couldn't不能 manage管理 my way out of;
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直到我面對自己無力解決的問題,
06:35
until直到 I found發現 myself
saying into the phone電話,
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直到我發現自己對著電話說:
06:37
"But I have a son兒子,"
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「可是我還有個兒子,」
06:39
because it was all
I could think of to say.
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因為那是我唯一能想到的話。
06:45
That was the most difficult
moment時刻 to accept接受:
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那是最難接受的時刻:
06:48
the phone電話 call, the walk步行 to the hospital醫院,
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那通電話,去醫院的路,
06:51
when I realized實現 that my own擁有
personal個人 prosperity繁榮 gospel福音
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在我明瞭我個人的成功神學版本
06:55
had failed失敗 me.
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讓我大失所望的時候。
06:57
Anything I thought was good
or special特別 about me could not save保存 me --
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我自認自己還不錯或特別的部分
都不能拯救我——
07:02
my hard work, my personality個性,
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我勤奮的工作,我的人格,
07:05
my humor幽默, my perspective透視.
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我的幽默,我的觀點。
07:08
I had to face面對 the fact事實 that my life
is built內置 with paper walls牆壁,
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我不得不面對事實:
我的人生是紙牆糊的,
07:12
and so is everyone大家 else's別人的.
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別人的也一樣。
07:16
It is a hard thought to accept接受
that we are all a breath呼吸 away
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我們很難接受這個想法,
就是在瞬息之間,
07:20
from a problem問題 that could
destroy破壞 something irreplaceable不可替代
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某個難處就會摧毀無可取代的事物,
07:24
or alter改變 our lives生活 completely全然.
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或完全改變我們的生活。
07:27
We know that in life
there are befores之前 and afters.
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我們都知道人生有
「以前」和「以後」。
07:31
I am asked all the time to say
that I would never go back,
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我總是被期待要說
「我永遠不會回頭,」
07:36
or that I've gained獲得
so much in perspective透視.
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或「我學到很多。」
07:39
And I tell them no,
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而我都會跟他們說
「不是這樣,以前更好。」
07:40
before was better.
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07:45
A few少數 months個月 after I got sick生病,
I wrote about this
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我生病後幾個月,我寫下這個,
07:48
and then I sent發送 it off to an editor編輯
at the "New York紐約 Times."
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然後送給紐約時報的某位編輯。
07:51
In retrospect回想起來, taking服用 one of the most
vulnerable弱勢 moments瞬間 of your life
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現在回想起來,
把人生最脆弱的時刻寫成專欄,
07:55
and turning車削 into an op-ed專欄
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07:57
is not an amazing驚人 way
to feel less vulnerable弱勢.
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好像也不是讓自己
感覺不那麼脆弱的好方法。
08:00
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
08:01
I got thousands數千 of letters and emails電子郵件.
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我收到無數封信件及電郵。
08:04
I still get them every一切 day.
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現在我每天還是會收到。
08:07
I think it is because
of the questions問題 I asked.
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我想這是因為我問的問題。
08:10
I asked: How do you live生活
without quite相當 so many許多 reasons原因
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我問:你要怎麼毫無疑問的活下去,
08:14
for the bad things that happen發生?
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如果壞事發生了?
08:17
I asked: Would it be better to live生活
without outrageous蠻橫的 formulas公式
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我問:這樣會不會過得更好,
如果沒有太過分的公式
08:22
for why people deserve值得 what they get?
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解釋為什麼人應得他們得到的?
08:26
And what was so funny滑稽
and so terrible可怕 was, of course課程,
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最好玩也是最可怕的地方當然是
08:29
I thought I asked people to simmer down
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我以為我在請求大家平靜下來,
08:31
on needing需要 an explanation說明
for the bad things that happened發生.
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不要再要求解釋為什麼壞事發生了。
08:34
So what did thousands數千 of readers讀者 do?
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那麼千萬的讀者怎麼回應?
08:37
Yeah, they wrote to defend保衛 the idea理念
that there had to be a reason原因
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對啊,他們寫信來捍衛這個想法,
就是發生在我身上的事一定有原因。
08:41
for what happened發生 to me.
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08:43
And they really want me
to understand理解 the reason原因.
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他們真的要我去了解原因。
08:46
People want me to reassure再保證 them
that my cancer癌症 is all part部分 of a plan計劃.
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大家希望我向他們保證
我的癌症是計畫的一部分。
08:51
A few少數 letters even suggested建議
it was God's plan計劃 that I get cancer癌症
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有幾封信甚至暗示著
我得到癌症是神的計畫,
08:55
so I could help people
by writing寫作 about it.
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所以我才能寫下來幫助別人。
08:58
People are certain某些
it is a test測試 of my character字符
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人們確信這是對我性格的考驗,
09:01
or proof證明 of something terrible可怕 I've doneDONE.
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或證明我做過可怕的事。
09:04
They want me to know without a doubt懷疑
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他們要我知道,毫無疑問,
09:07
that there is a hidden logic邏輯
to this seeming表面上的 chaos混沌.
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這看似混亂的背後
一定有個隱而未見的邏輯。
09:12
They tell my husband丈夫,
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他們對我先生說,
09:13
while I'm still in the hospital醫院,
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當時我還在醫院,
09:15
that everything happens發生 for a reason原因,
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每件事發生都有理由,
09:18
and then stammer結巴 awkwardly笨拙 when he says,
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然後他們只能支支吾吾,
因為他回說:
09:21
"I'd love to hear it.
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「好啊,告訴我理由。
09:23
I'd love to hear the reason原因
my wife妻子 is dying垂死."
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我要聽我妻子邁向死亡的理由。」
09:27
And I get it.
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我恍然大悟。
09:29
We all want reasons原因.
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我們都想要理由。
09:31
We want formulas公式
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我們要公式
09:32
to predict預測 whether是否
our hard work will pay工資 off,
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預測努力是否有回報,
09:36
whether是否 our love and support支持
will always make our partners夥伴 happy快樂
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預測我們的愛與支持
是否永遠都會讓另一半高興,
09:40
and our kids孩子 love us.
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讓我們的孩子愛我們。
09:43
We want to live生活 in a world世界
in which哪一個 not one ounce盎司
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我們想要的世界裡,
每一分努力、每一分痛苦,
或最深切的希望都不是枉然。
09:46
of our hard work or our pain疼痛
or our deepest最深 hopes希望 will be for nothing.
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09:52
We want to live生活 in a world世界
in which哪一個 nothing is lost丟失.
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我們想要的世界裡,沒有任何落空。
09:58
But what I have learned學到了
in living活的 with stage階段 IVIV cancer癌症
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但是我在與末期癌症共存下學到,
10:02
is that there is no easy簡單 correlation相關
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我有多努力跟我的壽命
沒有簡單的關聯。
10:05
between之間 how hard I try
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10:08
and the length長度 of my life.
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10:10
In the last three years年份,
I've experienced有經驗的 more pain疼痛 and trauma外傷
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過去三年,我經歷的痛苦與創傷,
10:14
than I ever thought I could survive生存.
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比我想像能承受的多很多。
10:18
I realized實現 the other day that I've had
so many許多 abdominal腹部的 surgeries手術
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有一天我突然發現
我開過這麼多次腹部手術,
10:21
that I'm on my fifth第五 belly肚皮 button按鍵,
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我現在有第五個肚臍了,
10:23
and this last one is my least最小 favorite喜愛.
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而且這個肚臍是我最不愛的。
10:26
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
10:29
But at the same相同 time,
I've experienced有經驗的 love,
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但是同時,我也經歷了愛,
10:32
so much love,
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好多愛,
10:34
love I find hard to explain說明.
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很難解釋的愛。
10:38
The other day, I was reading the findings發現
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有一天,我在讀
瀕臨死亡經驗研究基金會的發現,
10:40
of the Near Death死亡 Experience經驗
Research研究 Foundation基礎,
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10:43
and yes, there is such這樣 a thing.
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沒錯,有這種東西。
10:45
People were interviewed採訪
about their brushes with death死亡
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人們受訪談論他們
與死亡擦身而過的經驗。
10:48
in all kinds of circumstances情況:
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各種情況都有:
10:50
car汽車 accidents事故, labor勞動 and delivery交貨,
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車禍、生產、
10:52
suicides自殺.
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自殺。
10:54
And many許多 reported報導 the same相同 odd thing:
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很多人都描述同樣一件怪事:
10:57
love.
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愛。
10:59
I'm sure I would have ignored忽視 it
if it hadn't有沒有 reminded提醒 me
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我相信我會忽略這件事,
如果沒有某件親身經歷的事
喚醒我的記憶,
11:01
of something I had experienced有經驗的,
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11:03
something I felt
uncomfortable不舒服 telling告訴 anyone任何人:
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某件我覺得很難啟齒的事:
11:06
that when I was sure
that I was going to die,
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當時我相信自己快死了,
11:09
I didn't feel angry憤怒.
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我沒有生氣的感覺。
11:12
I felt loved喜愛.
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我感受到被愛。
11:15
It was one of the most surreal超現實主義 things
I have experienced有經驗的.
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這是我所經歷過最超自然的事。
11:18
In a time in which哪一個 I should have
felt abandoned by God,
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在我應該覺得被神遺棄的時刻,
11:22
I was not reduced減少 to ashes灰燼.
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我沒有化為灰燼。
11:25
I felt like I was floating漂浮的,
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我覺得自己好像漂浮著,
11:27
floating漂浮的 on the love and prayers祈禱
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漂浮在愛與禱告中——
11:29
of all those who hummed哼著歌
around me like worker工人 bees蜜蜂,
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來自工蜂般嗡嗡圍繞著我的人——
11:33
bringing使 me notes筆記 and socks襪子 and flowers花卉
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他們給我慰問卡、襪子和花,
11:35
and quilts棉被 embroidered繡花
with words of encouragement鼓勵.
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還有繡著鼓勵話語的拼布被。
11:39
But when they satSAT beside me,
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但是當他們坐在我身邊,
11:41
my hand in their hands,
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將我的手握在他們手中,
11:43
my own擁有 suffering痛苦 began開始 to feel
like it had revealed透露 to me
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我自己的苦難開始更像是
別人的苦難向我顯明。
11:47
the suffering痛苦 of others其他.
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11:49
I was entering進入 a world世界
of people just like me,
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我進入一個世界,裡面的人就像我,
11:53
people stumbling絆腳 around in the debris廢墟
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芸芸眾生被破碎的夢絆倒——
11:55
of dreams they thought
they were entitled標題 to
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他們以為應得的夢——
11:58
and plans計劃 they didn't
realize實現 they had made製作.
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還有他們沒有意識到
已經做的計畫。
12:02
It was a feeling感覺 of being存在 more connected連接的,
somehow不知何故, with other people,
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這是種莫名的感覺,
好像自己與別人更加連結,
12:06
experiencing經歷 the same相同 situation情況.
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更感同身受。
12:09
And that feeling感覺
stayed with me for months個月.
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那種感覺持續了好幾個月。
12:12
In fact事實, I'd grown長大的 so accustomed慣常的 to it
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事實上,我已經太習慣這種感覺,
12:14
that I started開始 to panic恐慌
at the prospect展望 of losing失去 it.
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我開始恐慌可能會失去它。
12:17
So I began開始 to ask friends朋友, theologians神學家,
historians歷史學家, nuns修女 I liked喜歡,
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所以我開始問朋友、神學家、
歷史學家,我喜歡的修女:
12:23
"What I am I going to do
when that loving愛心 feeling感覺 is gone走了?"
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「那種愛的感覺沒有之後
我要怎麼辦?」
12:28
And they knew知道 exactly究竟
what I was talking about,
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他們都完全懂我在說什麼,
12:30
because they had either
experienced有經驗的 it themselves他們自己
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因為他們自己有親身經歷過,
12:32
or they'd他們會 read about it
in great works作品 of Christian基督教 theology神學.
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或有讀過關於這方面的
基督教神學偉大作品。
12:35
And they said,
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他們說:
12:37
"Yeah, it'll它會 go.
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「是的,它會消失。
12:39
The feelings情懷 will go.
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這種感覺會消失。
12:41
And there will be no formula
for how to get it back."
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也沒有什麼方法能把它找回來。」
12:45
But they offered提供 me
this little piece of reassurance放心,
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但是他們給了我一點點小小的確據,
12:48
and I clung抱定 to it.
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我緊緊抓著它不放。
12:50
They said,
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他們說:
12:51
"When the feelings情懷 recede退 like the tides潮汐,
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「即使這種感覺像退潮般漸漸消失,
12:54
they will leave離開 an imprint版本說明."
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還是會留下印記。」
12:57
And they do.
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的確如此。
12:59
And it is not proof證明 of anything,
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這沒有證明什麼,
13:03
and it is nothing to boast about.
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也沒有什麼好誇的。
13:05
It was just a gift禮品.
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它就是個禮物。
13:07
So I can't respond響應 to
the thousands數千 of emails電子郵件 I get
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所以我無法回應
我所收到的成千上萬封電郵,
13:10
with my own擁有 five-step五步 plan計劃
to divine神聖 health健康
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用我自創的屬天健康五步驟
13:13
and magical神奇 floating漂浮的 feelings情懷.
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和神奇漂浮感。
13:16
I see that the world世界 is jolted震動 by events事件
that are wonderful精彩 and terrible可怕,
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我看到這世界因各種事件而震動,
無論事件是美妙還是可怕,
13:22
gorgeous華麗 and tragic悲慘.
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華美還是悲慘。
13:25
I can't reconcile調和 the contradiction矛盾,
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我無法調解矛盾,
13:28
except that I am beginning開始 to believe
that these opposites對立
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只能開始相信這兩極
13:31
do not cancel取消 each other out.
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不能相互抵銷。
13:35
Life is so beautiful美麗,
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人生如此美麗,
13:37
and life is so hard.
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而人生也如此困難。
13:42
Today今天, I am doing quite相當 well.
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現在,我過得還不錯。
13:46
The immunotherapy免疫治療 drugs毒品
appear出現 to be working加工,
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免疫療法藥物好像有用,
13:49
and we are watching觀看
and waiting等候 with scans掃描.
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我們還在看,還在等掃描結果。
13:52
I hope希望 I will live生活 a long time.
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我希望我能活很久。
13:55
I hope希望 I will live生活 long enough足夠
to embarrass阻礙 my son兒子
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我希望我能活得夠久,
可以消遣一下兒子,
14:00
and to watch my husband丈夫
lose失去 his beautiful美麗 hair頭髮.
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看我的丈夫掉光漂亮的頭髮。
14:04
And I think I might威力.
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我想我可以。
14:06
But I am learning學習 to live生活
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但是我還在學著過生活,
14:08
and to love
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去愛,
14:10
without counting數數 the cost成本,
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不要計算代價,
14:12
without reasons原因 and assurances保證
that nothing will be lost丟失.
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不要再想理由或確據,
以為什麼都不會失去。
14:17
Life will break打破 your heart,
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人生會讓你心碎,
14:20
and life may可能 take everything you have
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人生也可能會拿走你所擁有
14:22
and everything you hope希望 for.
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或你希望擁有的東西。
14:25
But there is one kind
of prosperity繁榮 gospel福音 that I believe in.
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但是有一種成功神學是我相信的。
14:29
I believe that in the darkness黑暗,
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我相信即使在黑暗中,
14:32
even there,
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就算是黑暗中,
14:33
there will be beauty美女,
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也有美好的事物,
14:35
and there will be love.
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也有愛。
14:37
And every一切 now and then,
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14:39
it will feel like more than enough足夠.
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也會覺得綽綽有餘。
14:43
Thank you.
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謝謝。
14:45
(Applause掌聲)
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(掌聲)
Translated by Regina Chu
Reviewed by Marssi Draw

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Kate Bowler - Divinity professor, author
Kate Bowler is reexamining her perspective on the "prosperity gospel": the belief that good things happen to good people.

Why you should listen

After being diagnosed with stage IV cancer at age 35, Duke tenured professor and author Kate Bowler launched a national conversation about why it feels so difficult to speak frankly about suffering. She delves into how we live and cope with pain and suffering in Everything Happens for a Reason: And Other Lies I've Loved, a New York Times bestselling memoir, and in her popular podcast, Everything Happens. She is also the author of Blessed: A History of the American Prosperity Gospel, which received widespread media and academic attention as the first history of a movement based on divine promises of health, wealth and happiness. She has appeared on NPR and The TODAY Show, Amanpour & Company as well as in the New York Times, Washington Post and TIME Magazine. Her work has also been praised by a wide variety of religious and political publications, from liberal print media to conservative talk radio.

More profile about the speaker
Kate Bowler | Speaker | TED.com

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