ABOUT THE SPEAKER

Sally Kohn - Political pundit
Sally Kohn searches for common ground among political foes by focusing on the compassion and humanity in everyone.

Why you should listen

Sally Kohn has a powerful vision for a more united United States. She's a columnist and a political commentator for CNN, and she is working on a book about hate that will be published in the spring of 2018. As a former contributor to Fox News, this progressive lesbian sparred with some of the most conservative minds on television and has sifted through hundreds of letters of hate mail a day. But she deeply believes in finding our common humanity, political differences aside. Before we can achieve political correctness, we must first establish emotional correctness — and this will ignite conversations that lead to real change.

Kohn has appeared on Fox, MSNBC and CNN and has written for The Daily Beast, Salon, The Atlantic and TIME Magazine.

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Sally Kohn: Let’s try emotional correctness

Sally Kohn: Zuzentasun emozionala proba dezagun

Filmed: 2013-10-14

Readability: 3.5

2,012,109 views

Sally Kohn, politikan aditua denak dio badela garaia liberalek eta kontserbadoreek euren bat ez etortze politikoak gainditu eta elkar benetan entzun dezaten. Hitzaldi optimista honetan, Kohn-ek Fox News-eko aurkezle lesbiana aurrerakoi bezala ikasitakoa partekatzen du. Berak dioenez, gauza ez da zuzentasun politikoa, zuzentasun emozionala baizik.

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00:13

So when I do my job, people hate me.

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Nire lana egiten dudanean, jendeak gorrotatu egiten nau.

00:16

In fact, the better I do my job,

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Egia esan, nire lana gero eta hobe egin,

00:19

the more people hate me.

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jendeak gero eta gehiago gorrotatzen nau.

00:20

And no, I'm not a meter maid,

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Eta ez, ez naiz trafiko polizia

00:22

and I'm not an undertaker.

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ez eta ehorztetxe bateko langilea ere.

00:24

I am a progressive lesbian talking head

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Lesbiana eta aurrerakoia den aurkezle bat naiz.

00:27

on Fox News. (Applause)

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Fox News-eko aurkezlea. (Txaloak)

00:31

So y'all heard that, right? Just to make sure, right?

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Beraz entzun duzue, ezta?
Ziur egoteko, bai?

00:33

I am a gay talking head on Fox News.

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Fox News-eko aurkezle gay bat naiz.

00:36

I am going to tell you how I do it

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Hau nola egiten dudan azalduko dizuet,

00:38

and the most important thing I've learned.

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baita ikasi dudan garrantzitsuena zer den ere.

00:40

So I go on television.

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Beraz telebistara joaten naiz.

00:42

I debate people who literally want to obliterate

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Sinisten dudan guztia literalki
suntsitu nahi duten

00:45

everything I believe in, in some cases,

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pertsonekin eztabaidatzen dut,
zenbait kasutan

00:47

who don't want me and people like me to even exist.

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ni bezalako pertsonak egotea ere nahi
ez duten pertsonekin.

00:50

It's sort of like Thanksgiving
with your conservative uncle

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Osaba kontserbadorearekin
"Acción de gracias" antzeko bat da

00:53

on steroids,

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esteroideekin,

00:55

with a live television audience of millions.

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milioietako audientzia batekin,
zuzenean eta telebistaz.

00:59

It's totally almost just like that.

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Ia-ia horixe da.

01:01

And that's just on air.

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Eta hori zuzenean nagoenean besterik ez da.

01:03

The hate mail I get is unbelievable.

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Jasotzen ditudan gorrotozko mezuak sinistezinak dira.

01:05

Last week alone, I got 238 pieces of nasty email

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Oso hurrun joan gabe, pasa den astean 238 mezu elektroniko
ezatsegin bidali zizkidaten,

01:10

and more hate tweets than I can even count.

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eta kontatu ezin diren adina tweet.

01:13

I was called an idiot, a traitor, a scourge,

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Tentela, traidorea,

01:17

a cunt, and an ugly man,

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zakurra eta gizon itsusia deitu didate.

01:19

and that was just in one email.

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Eta guzti hori mezu bakar batean.

01:21

(Laughter)

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(Barreak)

01:24

So what have I realized,

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Gauza itsusi horiek guztiak

01:26

being on the receiving end of all this ugliness?

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jasotzean zertaz ohartu naizen?

01:29

Well, my biggest takeaway is that for decades,

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Beno, ondorio garrantzitsuena hau izan da, hamarkadetan zehar,

01:32

we've been focused on political correctness,

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zuzentasun politikoan ipini dugu arreta,

01:35

but what matters more is emotional correctness.

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baina garrantzitsuena zuzentasun emozionala da.

01:39

Let me give you a small example.

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Utz iezadazue adibide bat ipintzen.

01:41

I don't care if you call me a dyke. I really don't.

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Ez dit axola "tortillera" deitzen badidate.

01:44

I care about two things.

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Baina badira bi gauza axola zaizkidanak.

01:45

One, I care that you spell it right.

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Alde batetik hitz hori zuzen idaztea

01:48

(Laughter) (Applause)

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(Barreak)(Txaloak)

01:53

Just quick refresher, it's D-Y-K-E.

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"Tortillera" "ll"-rekin eta ez "y"-rekin.

01:57

You'd totally be surprised.

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Hatrritu egingo zinatekete.

02:00

And second, I don't care about the word,

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Eta bestetik, ez dit hitzak axola,

02:01

I care about how you use it.

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hitza erabiltzeko moduak axola dit.

02:03

Are you being friendly? Are you just being naive?

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Atsegina izaten ari da? Besterik gabe inozoa da?

02:05

Or do you really want to hurt me personally?

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Edo benetan min egin nahi dit?

02:09

Emotional correctness is the tone, the feeling,

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Zuzentasun emozionala tonua da, sentimendua,

02:14

how we say what we say,

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esaten duguna esaten dugun modua,

02:16

the respect and compassion we show one another.

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elkarri erakusten diogun errespetua eta errukia.

02:19

And what I've realized is that political persuasion

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Eta hontaz ohartu naiz: persuasio,
konbentzitze politikoa

02:22

doesn't begin with ideas or facts or data.

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ez da ideiekin, datuekin edo ekintzekin hasten.

02:26

Political persuasion begins with
being emotionally correct.

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Persuasio politikoa emozionalki zuzena
izatearekin hasten da.

02:30

So when I first went to go work at Fox News,

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Beraz lehendabizikoz Fox News-era lanera
joan nintzenean,

02:33

true confession,

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benetan diotsuet,

02:34

I expected there to be marks in the carpet

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alfonbran kobazueloetako gizonen markak

02:37

from all the knuckle-dragging.

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egongo zirela imajinatzen nuen.

02:39

That, by the way, in case you're paying attention,
is not emotionally correct.

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Bide batez esan behar dut, arretaz jarraitzen ari bazarete, hori ez da
emozionalki zuzena.

02:44

But liberals on my side,

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Baina nire aldeko liberalak,

02:47

we can be self-righteous,
we can be condescending,

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moralistak, amore-emaileak,

02:50

we can be dismissive of anyone
who doesn't agree with us.

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gurekin ados ez daudenekiko mespretxuzkoak
izan gaitezke.

02:53

In other words, we can be politically right

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Beste hitz batzuekin esanda, politikoki zuzenak

02:56

but emotionally wrong.

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baina emozionalki okerrak izan gaitezke.

02:58

And incidentally, that means that

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Eta horrek zera esan nahi du

03:01

people don't like us. Right?

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jendeari ez gatzaizkiola atsegin, ez?

03:04

Now here's the kicker.

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Eta hau da benetan harrigarriena.

03:06

Conservatives are really nice.

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Kontserbadoreak benetan atseginak direla.

03:09

I mean, not all of them,

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Beno, guztiak ez,

03:10

and not the ones who send me hate mail,

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eta ez gorrotoz betetako mezuak bidaltzen dituztenak,

03:12

but you would be surprised.

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baina harritu egingo zinatekete.

03:14

Sean Hannity is one of the sweetest guys

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Sean Hannity ezagutu dudan pertsonarik gozoenetako

03:16

I've ever met.

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bat da.

03:18

He spends his free time

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Bere denbora librea

03:20

trying to fix up his staff on blind dates,

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bere lankideak "zita itsu" bidez elkartzen
pasatzen du,

03:22

and I know that if I ever had a problem,

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eta badakit noizbait arazoren bat izango banu,

03:24

he would do anything he could to help.

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berak ahal lukeen guztia egingo lukeela laguntzeko.

03:27

Now, I think Sean Hannity is

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Hala ere, uste dut Sean Hannity

03:30

99 percent politically wrong,

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%99an politikoki oker dagoela.

03:32

but his emotional correctness
is strikingly impressive,

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Baina bere zuzentasun emozionala
benetan harrigarria da,

03:36

and that's why people listen to him.

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eta horregatik jendeak entzun egiten dio.

03:38

Because you can't get anyone to agree with you

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Inork ez baitu lortutako besteak bere iritziekin bat etortzea

03:40

if they don't even listen to you first.

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lehendabizi entzuten ez badiote.

03:43

We spend so much time talking past each other

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Hitz egiten baina elkar ulertu gabe denbora asko pasatzen dugu

03:46

and not enough time talking
through our disagreements,

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eta ez dugu behar bezainbeste denbora pasatzen gure
desadostasunei buruz hitz egiten,

03:49

and if we can start to find
compassion for one another,

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eta bestearekiko errukia izaten hasten bagara,

03:53

then we have a shot at building common ground.

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orduan izango dugu elkarrekin
oinarri bat eraikitzeko aukera.

03:57

It actually sounds really hokey

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Egiaz benetan "kursi"-a dirudi

03:59

to say it standing up here,

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hemen hori esateak,

04:01

but when you try to put it in practice,

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baina praktikan jartzen saiatzean,

04:03

it's really powerful.

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indar handia du.

04:05

So someone who says they hate immigrants,

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Honela, norbaitek kanpotarrak gorroto dituela badio,

04:08

I try to imagine how scared they must be

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bere komunitatea beti izan denetik aldatzen ari dela konturatuta

04:10

that their community is changing
from what they've always known.

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zer nolako beldurra sentitzen duen imajinatzen saiatzen naiz.

04:13

Or someone who says they
don't like teachers' unions,

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Edo norbaitek irakasleen sindikatuak
gogoko ez dituela dionean,

04:17

I bet they're really devastated to see

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apustu beraien seme-alaben eskolak pikutara

04:18

their kid's school going into the gutter,

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doazela ikusteaz atsekabetuta daudela,

04:20

and they're just looking for someone to blame.

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eta errudunak bilaka besterik ez direla ari.

04:23

Our challenge is to find the compassion for others

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Gure erronka besteekiko errukia aurkitzea da,

04:27

that we want them to have for us.

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guri ematea nahi dugun hori aurkitzea.

04:30

That is emotional correctness.

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Hori da zuzentasun emozionala.

04:33

I'm not saying it's easy.

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Ez diot erraza denik.

04:35

An average of, like, 5.6 times per day

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Batazbeste egunean 5.6 aldiz

04:38

I have to stop myself from responding

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irain itsusiz betetako nire mezuei

04:39

to all of my hate mail with a flurry of vile profanities.

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ez erantzuteko ahalegina egin behar dut.

04:45

This whole finding compassion

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Nire aurkariekiko errukia eta

04:48

and common ground with your enemies thing

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eurekin puntu amankomunak aurkitze hori

04:50

is kind of like a political-spiritual practice for me,

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praktika politiko-espiritual bat da niretzat,

04:53

and I ain't the Dalai Lama.

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eta ez naiz Dalai Lama.

04:56

I'm not perfect, but what I am is optimistic,

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Ez naiz perfektua, baina optimista banaiz,

05:02

because I don't just get hate mail.

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gorrotoz betetako mezuak soilik jasotzen ez ditudalako.

05:04

I get a lot of really nice letters, lots of them.

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Oso atseginak diren mezu mordoa ere jasotzen ditut.

05:07

And one of my all-time favorites begins,

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Eta denbora luzez nire gustokoenetako bat
izandako horrela hasten da:

05:10

"I am not a big fan of your political leanings

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"Ez naiz zure ideia politikoen
jarraitzaile handi bat,

05:13

or your sometimes tortured logic,

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ez eta zure logika batzuetan maltzurraren jarraitzailea ere,

05:18

but I'm a big fan of you as a person."

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baina zu pertsona bezala zarenaren
jarraitzaile handi bat nahiz".

05:22

Now this guy doesn't agree with me, yet.

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Hala ere gizon hau ez dago nirekin ados, oraindik.

05:26

(Laughter)

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(Barreak)

05:29

But he's listening, not because of what I said,

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Baina nik esaten dudana entzuten du,
ez diodanagatik,

05:32

but because of how I said it,

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esaten dudan moduagatik baizik,

05:34

and somehow, even though we've never met,

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eta nolabait, inoiz elkar ezagutu ez dugun arren,

05:36

we've managed to form a connection.

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lotura bat eraiki dugu.

05:38

That's emotional correctness,

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Hori da zuzentasun emozionala,

05:41

and that's how we start the conversations

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eta horrela hasten dira benetako eraldaketa

05:43

that really lead to change.

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lortuko duten elkarrizketak.

05:45

Thank you.

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Mila esker.

05:48

(Applause)

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(Txaloak)

Translated by Jone Aliri
Reviewed by Jon del Olmo

ABOUT THE SPEAKER

Sally Kohn - Political pundit
Sally Kohn searches for common ground among political foes by focusing on the compassion and humanity in everyone.

Why you should listen

Sally Kohn has a powerful vision for a more united United States. She's a columnist and a political commentator for CNN, and she is working on a book about hate that will be published in the spring of 2018. As a former contributor to Fox News, this progressive lesbian sparred with some of the most conservative minds on television and has sifted through hundreds of letters of hate mail a day. But she deeply believes in finding our common humanity, political differences aside. Before we can achieve political correctness, we must first establish emotional correctness — and this will ignite conversations that lead to real change.

Kohn has appeared on Fox, MSNBC and CNN and has written for The Daily Beast, Salon, The Atlantic and TIME Magazine.

More profile about the speaker
Sally Kohn | Speaker | TED.com

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