Deborah Lipstadt: Behind the lies of Holocaust denial
デボラ・リップシュタット: ホロコースト否定説の嘘に潜むもくろみ
Deborah Lipstadt's research focuses on the development of Holocaust denial and how to fight for the truth in an era marked by "alternative facts." Full bio
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about Holocaust denial,
初めて聞いた時は
the dubious distinction
世界一 記録が充実していて
あのホロコーストを?
genocide in the world?
一体誰が信じるのでしょう?
誰でしょうか?
their harrowing stories.
生存者たちです
街や村や都市の住民が
of towns and villages and cities
be rounded up --
to the outskirts of the town
around the death camps,
町や村に住んでいた彼らが
収容所へと向かい
誤証言は 誰のものになるでしょう?
「私がやった」
I was forced to do it."
強要されたんだ」
「私がやった」とは言うのです
戦争犯罪裁判において
since the end of World War II
戦争犯罪者は どの国にもいません
ever said, "It didn't happen."
but never that it didn't happen.
「なかった」とは言いません
going to be on my agenda;
もっと大事なことがあるし と
to write about, to research,
歴史学者である2人ですが―
of the Holocaust --
研究課題があるんだが」
that we think is perfect for you."
課題を持ってきてくれたことに
that they came to me with an idea
納得させているのか?」
to believe what they say?"
it was worthwhile,
教授たちが調べる価値があると考えるなら
気晴らしにやってみよう
three, maybe even four --
数年は「ちょっとの間」ですから
いくつかの結論を導き出しました
with a number of things,
with you today.
皆さんにお話しします
ということです
お任せします
to put a "neo" there or not.
着ているわけでも
振る舞う人々でした
as respectable academics.
機関誌も出していました
ヒストリカルレビュー』
「我々は修正主義者である
少し内側を覗くと 本性が見えます
one inch below the surface,
いかにも理性的な説の姿を装っていたのです
parading as rational discourse.
という考え方を教えられます
there are facts and there are opinions --
まず 自分たちの嘘を
is take their lies,
これは「見解」だから
事実を歪めます
大量虐殺否定者たちの嘘ともくろみ』
Assault on Truth and Memory,"
ペンギンブックスから出ました
and ready to move on.
次に移ろうとしていた時です
手紙が届きました
これで3度目でした
ホロコースト否定者と呼ばれたことに対し
was bringing a libel suit against me
という知らせでした
デイヴィッド・アーヴィングとは
歴史著述家です
of historical works,
第二次世界大戦についてです
took the position
展開している主張が
というものです
こういった結論を出していたのです
to get this opinion.
ありません
支持するようになりました
was this was a man
否定するだけでなく
the battleship Auschwitz."
数字のタトゥーを指さして
on a survivor's arm and said,
と言い放った男です
tattooed on your arm?"
チャパキディック事件の犠牲者は
ガス室の犠牲者よりも多い」
but you can look it up.
事実か調べてみてください
at all ashamed or reticent
こう忠告されました
colleagues counseled me --
無視できないと説明すると
ignore a libel suit,
と言われました
believe him anyway?"
被告つまり私の側に立証責任があるのです
put the burden of proof on me
証明しなくてはなりません
been in the United States
正当な主張になってしまいます
ホロコーストは正規の見解である
is a legitimate version.
私を否定者と呼び
to have libeled me
ホロコースト否定者ではない」
am not a Holocaust denier."
with any suffering that went on,
一切関連していない
ユダヤ人のでっち上げである
ユダヤ人国家を作るのが目的だ
連合国の支援と協力の下
and abettance of the allies --
and planted the evidence.
顔向けができないと思いました
a responsible historian.
まだ観ていない人は
who haven't seen "Denial,"
「デイビッド・アーヴィングは
目立った実例から導き出されました
in over 25 different major instances.
in this audience write books,
多いと思いますが
だから再版はありがたいのです
we're glad to have second editions:
in the same direction:
どの例も方向性は同じでした
back to his sources.
情報源を突き止めたのです
触れていた全ての事例において
he made some reference to the Holocaust,
歪められており
出席してもいない人物が加えられ
ということです
he didn't have the evidence.
証明にならなかったのです
事実であると主張した内容も
アーヴィングが彼らを引用するか
because he either quotes them
more than just the story
とどまりません
長く困難な訴訟の物語—
six-year, difficult lawsuit,
法廷闘争に引きずり込まれ
being dragged into a courtroom
という判決が下る—
declared in its judgment
of the question of truth,
話においては
込められています
「攻撃」を受けているからです
the gifts it has given us,
様々な恩恵をもたらしながらも
between facts -- established facts --
既成事実と「嘘」との違いがなくなり
white supremacist language.
言葉さえ聞かないかもしれません
のように呼び名は様々ですが
"National Front" -- pick your names.
ホロコースト否定説に見られた—
that I found in Holocaust denial
「真実」は「防御態勢」にあります
where truth is on the defensive.
風刺漫画を思い出します
in "The New Yorker"
is saying to one of the contestants,
大声で叫んだので
more loudly than you did,
by rational appearances.
だまされないこと
理解しなくてはなりません
that truth is not relative.
荒唐無稽な主張をしてきたら
one of the highest offices in the land,
一番偉い立場の人だったとしても
扱ってはいけません
are the same as the facts.
truth is not relative.
相対的な真実などありません
in the world of the academy
everything is open to debate.
教わりました
物事は存在し
教えてくれたことです
回っているという持説を
to recant by the Vatican
ということです
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Deborah Lipstadt - HistorianDeborah Lipstadt's research focuses on the development of Holocaust denial and how to fight for the truth in an era marked by "alternative facts."
Why you should listen
Dr. Deborah E. Lipstadt, Dorot professor of Holocaust Studies at Emory University in Atlanta, was sued for libel in 1996 by David Irving for having called him a Holocaust denier. After a ten-week trial in London in 2000, in an overwhelming victory for Lipstadt, the judge found Irving to be a "neo-Nazi polemicist" who "perverts" history and engages in "racist" and "anti-Semitic" discourse. The Daily Telegraph (London) described the trial as having "done for the new century what the Nuremberg tribunals or the Eichmann trial did for earlier generations." The Times (London) described it as "history has had its day in court and scored a crushing victory." According to the New York Times, the trial "put an end to the pretense that Mr. Irving is anything but a self-promoting apologist for Hitler."
The movie Denial, starring Rachel Weisz and Tom Wilkenson with a screenplay by David Hare, tells the story of this legal battle. It is based on Lipstadt's book, History on Trial: My Day in Court with a Holocaust Denier (Harper Collins, 2006), and recently reissued as Denial (Harper Collins, 2016). The film was nominated for a BAFTA as one of the best British films of the year.
Lipstadt has written most recently Holocaust: An American Understanding (Rutgers, 2016), which explores how America has understood and interpreted the Holocaust since 1945.
Her previous book, The Eichmann Trial, (Schocken/Nextbook, 2011) published in commemoration of the 50th anniversary of the Eichmann trial, was called by Publisher's Weekly, "a penetrating and authoritative dissection of a landmark case and its after effects." The New York Times Book Review described Lipstadt as having "done a great service by … recovering the event as a gripping legal drama, as well as a hinge moment in Israel's history and in the world's delayed awakening to the magnitude of the Holocaust."
She has also published Beyond Belief: The American Press And The Coming Of The Holocaust, 1933-1945 (Free Press, 1986), which surveys what the American press wrote about the persecution of the Jews in the years 1933-1945. She is currently writing a book, The Antisemitic Delusion: Letters to a Concerned Student which will be published in 2018.
At Emory, Lipstadt directs the website known as HDOT, Holocaust Denial on Trial, which contains a complete archive of the proceedings of Irving v. Penguin UK and Deborah Lipstadt. It also provides answers to frequent claims made by deniers. Lipstadt has won the Emery Williams Teaching Award, and she was selected for the award by alumni as the teacher who had most influenced them.
Lipstadt was a historical consultant to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, helping design the section of the Museum dedicated to the American Response to the Holocaust. She has held a Presidential appointment to the United States Holocaust Memorial Council (from Presidents Clinton and Obama) and was asked by President George W. Bush to represent the White House at the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz.
Lipstadt has a BA from the City College of New York and an MA and PhD from Brandeis University.
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