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James A. White Sr.: The little problem I had renting a house
James White, Sr.: Težavica, ki sem jo imel pri najemu hiše
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Pred triinpetdesetimi leti se je James A. White Sr. pridružil vojaškemu letalstvu ZDA. A kot temnopolti Američan se je moral zelo potruditi, da je našel prostor, kjer bi blizu službe lahko živel s svojo mlado družino. Pove nam presunljivo zgodbo o izkušnji z "vsakodnevnim rasizmom" in kako ta še danes odmeva v naukih, s katerimi je svoje vnuke podučil o tem, kako naj se soočajo s policijo.
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00:12
An 18-year-old, African-American male
joined the United States Air Force
joined the United States Air Force
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18-letni temnopolti Američan
se je pridružil vojaškemu letalstvu ZDA
se je pridružil vojaškemu letalstvu ZDA
00:18
and was assigned to Mountain Home
Air Force Base
Air Force Base
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in poslali so ga v letalsko bazo
Mountain Home.
Mountain Home.
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and was a part of the air police squadron.
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Bil je del eskadrilje letalske policije.
00:24
Upon first arriving there,
the first goal that I had
the first goal that I had
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Ko sem prišel tja, je bil moj prvi cilj
00:28
was for me to identify an apartment,
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najti stanovanje,
00:30
so I could bring my wife
and my new baby, Melanie,
and my new baby, Melanie,
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kamor bi lahko pripeljal svojo ženo
in hčer, Melanie,
in hčer, Melanie,
00:34
out to join me in Idaho.
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da bi se mi pridružili v Idahu.
00:36
I immediately went to
the personnel office,
the personnel office,
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Odšel sem do kadrovske službe,
00:39
and talking with the guys in personnel,
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govoril sem z njimi
00:41
they said, "Hey, no problem finding
an apartment in Mountain Home, Idaho.
an apartment in Mountain Home, Idaho.
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in rekli so mi: "Hej, ni problem najti
stanovanje v Mountain Home, Idaho.
stanovanje v Mountain Home, Idaho.
00:46
The people down there love us
because they know if they have an airman
because they know if they have an airman
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Ljudje tam nas imajo radi,
ker vedo, da če imajo letalca,
ker vedo, da če imajo letalca,
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who is coming in to rent
one of their apartments,
one of their apartments,
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ki bo prišel najet eno izmed stanovanj,
00:53
they'll always get their money."
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bodo vedno dobili svoj denar."
00:56
And that was a really important thing.
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In to je bila res pomembna stvar.
00:58
He said, "So here is a list
of people that you can call,
of people that you can call,
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Rekli so: "Tu je seznam ljudi,
ki jih lahko pokličeš
ki jih lahko pokličeš
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and then they will then allow you
to select the apartment that you want."
to select the apartment that you want."
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in ti bodo dovolili,
da si izbereš stanovanje, ki bi ga rad."
da si izbereš stanovanje, ki bi ga rad."
01:04
So I got the list; I made the call.
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Dobil sem seznam. Poklical sem.
01:07
The lady answered on the other end
and I told her what I wanted.
and I told her what I wanted.
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Gospe, ki se je oglasila,
sem povedal, kaj želim.
sem povedal, kaj želim.
01:10
She said, "Oh, great you called.
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Rekla je: "Super, da ste poklicali.
01:13
We have four or five apartments
available right now."
available right now."
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Sedaj imamo na voljo
štiri ali pet stanovanj."
štiri ali pet stanovanj."
01:17
She said, "Do you want
a one-bedroom or two-bedroom?"
a one-bedroom or two-bedroom?"
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Rekla je: "Želite enosobno
ali dvosobno stanovanje?"
ali dvosobno stanovanje?"
01:20
Then she said, "Let's not talk about that.
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Potem je dodala: "Ne govoriva o tem.
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Just come on down,
select the apartment that you want.
select the apartment that you want.
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Kar pridite sem in si izberite stanovanje.
01:24
We'll sign the contract
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Podpisala bova pogodbo
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and you'll have keys in your hand
to get your family out here right away."
to get your family out here right away."
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imeli boste ključe v rokah,
da bo vaša družina takoj prišla sem."
da bo vaša družina takoj prišla sem."
01:30
So I was excited.
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Bil sem vznemirjen.
01:32
I jumped in my car. I went downtown
and knocked on the door.
and knocked on the door.
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Skočil sem v avto, se odpravil
v mesto in potrkal na vrata.
v mesto in potrkal na vrata.
01:35
When I knocked on the door,
the woman came to the door,
the woman came to the door,
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Ko sem potrkal, je k vratom prišla ženska,
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and she looked at me, and she said,
"Can I help you?"
"Can I help you?"
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me pogledala in rekla:
"Vam lahko pomagam?"
"Vam lahko pomagam?"
01:41
I said, "Yes, I'm the person
who called about the apartments.
who called about the apartments.
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Dejal sem: "Da, jaz sem tisti,
ki je klical zaradi stanovanj.
ki je klical zaradi stanovanj.
01:45
I was just coming down
to make my selection."
to make my selection."
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Prišel sem, da bi si eno izbral."
01:47
She said, "You know what?
I'm really sorry,
I'm really sorry,
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Rekla je: "Veste kaj? Zelo mi je žal,
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but my husband rented those apartments
and didn't tell me about them."
and didn't tell me about them."
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ampak moj mož je že oddal
ta stanovanja in mi ni povedal."
ta stanovanja in mi ni povedal."
01:54
I said, "You mean he rented
all five of them in one hour?"
all five of them in one hour?"
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Vprašal sem: "Hočete reči,
da je oddal vseh pet v eni uri?"
da je oddal vseh pet v eni uri?"
01:59
She didn't give me a response,
and what she said was this:
and what she said was this:
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Ni mi odgovorila, dejala je le:
02:02
She said, "Why don't you
leave your number,
leave your number,
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"Zakaj mi ne pustite svoje številke
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and if we have some openings,
I'll give you a call?"
I'll give you a call?"
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in če bo katero prosto,
vas bom poklicala?"
vas bom poklicala?"
02:07
Needless to say,
I did not get a call from her.
I did not get a call from her.
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Seveda me ni poklicala.
02:11
Nor did I get any responses
from the other people
from the other people
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Niti nisem dobil odgovora od drugih ljudi,
02:14
that they gave me on the list
where I could get apartments.
where I could get apartments.
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ki so bili na seznamu za stanovanja.
02:17
So as a result of that,
and feeling rejected,
and feeling rejected,
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Zaradi tega in zaradi občutka zavrnitve
02:20
I went back to the base, and I talked
to the squadron commander.
to the squadron commander.
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sem šel nazaj v bazo
in govoril s komandirjem.
in govoril s komandirjem.
02:23
His name was McDow, Major McDow.
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Ime mu je bilo McDow, major McDow.
02:26
I said, "Major McDow, I need your help."
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Rekel sem: "Major McDow,
potrebujem pomoč."
potrebujem pomoč."
02:28
I told him what happened,
and here's what he said to me:
and here's what he said to me:
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Povedal sem mu, kaj se je zgodilo,
in rekel mi je:
in rekel mi je:
02:31
He said, "James, I would love to help you.
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"James, rad bi ti pomagal.
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But you know the problem:
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A saj poznaš problem:
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We can't make people rent to folks
that they don't want to rent to.
that they don't want to rent to.
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Ne morem prisiliti ljudi, da nekomu
oddajo stanovanje, če tega ne želijo.
oddajo stanovanje, če tega ne želijo.
02:39
And besides, we have a great relationship
with people in the community
with people in the community
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Poleg tega se z ljudmi v skupnosti
zelo dobro razumemo
zelo dobro razumemo
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and we really don't want to damage that."
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in tega res ne želimo uničiti."
02:45
He said, "So maybe this is
what you should do.
what you should do.
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Dodal je: "Mogoče bi lahko naredil to.
02:48
Why don't you let your family stay home,
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Zakaj ne bi tvoja družina ostala doma,
02:50
because you do know
that you get a 30-day leave.
that you get a 30-day leave.
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saj veš, da dobiš 30 dni dopusta.
02:53
So once a year,
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Tako da enkrat letno
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you can go home to your family,
spend 30 days and then come on back."
spend 30 days and then come on back."
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lahko greš domov k družini,
preživiš tam 30 dni in prideš nazaj."
preživiš tam 30 dni in prideš nazaj."
02:59
Needless to say, that didn't
resonate for me.
resonate for me.
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Seveda mi to ni bilo preveč všeč.
03:01
So after leaving him,
I went back to personnel,
I went back to personnel,
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Ko sva se poslovila,
sem odšel nazaj v kadrovsko
sem odšel nazaj v kadrovsko
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and talking to the clerk,
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in govoril sem z uslužbencem,
03:06
he said, "Jim, I think I have a
solution for you.
solution for you.
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ki je menil: "Jim,
mislim, da imam rešitev zate.
mislim, da imam rešitev zate.
03:09
There's an airman who is leaving
and he has a trailer.
and he has a trailer.
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Nek drugi letalec odhaja
in on ima prikolico.
in on ima prikolico.
03:13
If you noticed, in Mountain Home,
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Mogoče si opazil, v Mountain Home-u
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there are trailer parks and trailers
all over the place.
all over the place.
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je polno prikolic
in prikoličarskih naselij.
in prikoličarskih naselij.
03:17
You can buy his trailer,
and you'd probably get a really good deal
and you'd probably get a really good deal
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Lahko kupiš njegovo prikolico,
verjetno bo zelo poceni,
verjetno bo zelo poceni,
03:21
because he wants to get out of town
as soon as possible.
as soon as possible.
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saj želi oditi iz mesta čim prej.
03:24
And that would take care of your problem,
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In to bi rešilo tvoj problem
03:26
and that would provide
the solution for you."
the solution for you."
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in tvoje težave."
03:28
So I immediately jumped in my car,
went downtown, saw the trailer --
went downtown, saw the trailer --
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Nemudoma sem skočil v avto,
šel v mesto, videl prikolico -
šel v mesto, videl prikolico -
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it was a small trailer,
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bila je majhna,
03:33
but under the circumstances,
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a v teh okoliščinah
03:35
I figured that was the
best thing that I could do.
best thing that I could do.
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se mi je to zdelo najboljše,
kar lahko dobim.
kar lahko dobim.
03:37
So I bought the trailer.
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Tako sem kupil prikolico.
Nato sem ga vprašal:
"Lahko pustim prikolico tu
"Lahko pustim prikolico tu
03:39
And then I asked him,
"Can I just leave the trailer here,
"Can I just leave the trailer here,
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03:42
and that would take care
of all my problems,
of all my problems,
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in bodo moji problemi rešeni
ter mi ne bo treba iskati
drugega naselja?"
drugega naselja?"
03:44
I wouldn't have to find
another trailer park?"
another trailer park?"
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03:46
He said, "Before I say yes to that,
I need to check with management."
I need to check with management."
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Odvrnil je: "Preden rečem ja,
moram vprašati vodstvo."
moram vprašati vodstvo."
03:50
So I get back to the base,
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Šel sem nazaj v bazo,
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he called me back and management said,
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poklical me je in vodstvo je reklo:
03:54
"No, you can't leave the trailer here
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"Ne, prikolice ne morete imeti tu,
03:56
because we had promised that slot
to some other people."
to some other people."
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ker smo to mesto obljubili drugim ljudem."
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And that was strange to me
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Zdelo se mi je čudno,
ker so bila prosta še druga mesta,
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because there were several
other slots that were open,
other slots that were open,
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a ravno to so obljubili nekomu drugemu.
04:04
but it just so happened that he
had promised that slot to someone else.
had promised that slot to someone else.
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04:08
So, what I did --
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Kaj sem naredil -
04:09
and he said, "You shouldn't worry, Jim,
because there are a lot of trailer parks."
because there are a lot of trailer parks."
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rekel mi je: "Ne skrbi, Jim,
veliko je še prikoličarskih naselij."
veliko je še prikoličarskih naselij."
Naredil sem si še en izčrpen seznam
za obisk prikoličarskih naselij.
za obisk prikoličarskih naselij.
04:13
So I put out another exhaustive list
of going to trailer parks.
of going to trailer parks.
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04:17
I went to one after another,
after another.
after another.
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Šel sem v enega za drugim.
04:19
And I got the same kind of rejection there
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Povsod so me zavrnili,
04:22
that I received when I was looking
for the apartment.
for the apartment.
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tako kot so me pri iskanju stanovanja.
04:26
And as a result, the kind of comments
that they made to me,
that they made to me,
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In kot rezultat tega še komentarji,
ki sem jih dobil:
ki sem jih dobil:
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in addition to saying that they
didn't have any slots open,
didn't have any slots open,
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poleg tega, da so mi rekli,
da nimajo prostih mest,
da nimajo prostih mest,
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one person said, "Jim, the reason
why we can't rent to you,
why we can't rent to you,
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je nekdo dejal:
"Jim, ne morem ti dati prostora,
"Jim, ne morem ti dati prostora,
04:39
we already have a Negro family
in the trailer park."
in the trailer park."
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ker že imamo črnsko družino
v tem naselju."
v tem naselju."
04:43
He said, "And it's not me,
because I like you people."
because I like you people."
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Rekel je: "Pa ne zaradi mene,
meni ste všeč."
meni ste všeč."
04:47
(Laughs)
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(Smeh)
04:48
And that's what I did, too.
I chuckled, too.
I chuckled, too.
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In to sem naredil tudi jaz.
Zasmejal sem se.
Zasmejal sem se.
04:52
He said, "But here's the problem:
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Rekel je: "Ampak tu je problem:
04:54
If I let you in, the other tenants
will move out
will move out
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Če tebe spustim noter,
se bodo ostali izselili
se bodo ostali izselili
04:58
and I can't afford to take
that kind of a hit."
that kind of a hit."
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in tega si ne morem privoščiti."
05:01
He said, "I just can't rent to you."
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Dejal je: "Enostavno ti ne morem
dati prostora."
dati prostora."
05:04
Even though that was discouraging,
it didn't stop me.
it didn't stop me.
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Čeprav to ni bilo spodbudno,
me ni ustavilo.
me ni ustavilo.
05:06
I kept looking,
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Še naprej sem iskal
05:07
and I looked at the far end
of the town in Mountain Home,
of the town in Mountain Home,
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in pogledal sem na konec mesta
v Mountain Home-u,
v Mountain Home-u,
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and there was a small trailer park.
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kjer je bilo majhno
prikoličarsko naselje.
prikoličarsko naselje.
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I mean, a really small trailer park.
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Mislim, res majhno.
05:16
It didn't have any paved roads in it,
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Ni imelo tlakovanih cest,
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it didn't have the concrete slabs,
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ni imelo tlakovcev,
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it didn't have fencing
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ni imelo ograje,
05:22
to portion off your trailer slot
from other trailer slots.
from other trailer slots.
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ki bi ločevala prostor tvoje prikolice
od prostora drugih.
od prostora drugih.
05:25
It didn't have a laundry facility.
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Ni imelo pralnice.
05:26
But the conclusion I reached
at that moment
at that moment
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A takrat sem prišel do zaključka,
05:29
was that I didn't have
a lot of other options.
a lot of other options.
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da nimam veliko drugih možnosti.
05:31
So I called my wife, and I said,
"We're going to make this one work."
"We're going to make this one work."
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Poklical sem ženo in ji rekel:
"Tole bova premagala."
"Tole bova premagala."
05:34
And we moved into it
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Preselila sva se vanjo
05:36
and we became homeowners
in Mountain Home, Idaho.
in Mountain Home, Idaho.
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in postala sva lastnika doma
v Mountain Home-u, Idaho.
v Mountain Home-u, Idaho.
05:40
And of course, eventually
things settled down.
things settled down.
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In seveda, sčasoma so se stvari umirile.
05:44
Four years after that, I received papers
to move from Mountain Home, Idaho
to move from Mountain Home, Idaho
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Štiri leta po tem sem dobil papirje,
naj se preselim iz Idaha
naj se preselim iz Idaha
05:50
to a place called Goose Bay, Labrador.
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v kraj imenovan Goose Bay, Labrador.
05:53
We won't even talk about that.
It was another great location. (Laughter)
It was another great location. (Laughter)
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O tem ne bom govoril.
To je bila še ena odlična lokacija. (Smeh)
To je bila še ena odlična lokacija. (Smeh)
05:57
So my challenge then was to get my family
from Mountain Home, Idaho
from Mountain Home, Idaho
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Moj izziv je bilo spraviti družino
iz Mountain Home-a
iz Mountain Home-a
06:01
to Sharon, Pennsylvania.
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v Sharon v Pensilvaniji.
06:03
That wasn't a problem because we
had just purchased a brand-new automobile.
had just purchased a brand-new automobile.
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To ni bil problem, ker sva pravkar kupila
čisto nov avtomobil.
čisto nov avtomobil.
06:07
My mother called
and said she'll fly out.
and said she'll fly out.
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Moja mama je klicala,
da bo priletela k nama.
da bo priletela k nama.
06:09
She'll be with us as we drive,
she'll help us manage the children.
she'll help us manage the children.
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Z nama bo, ko bova vozila,
in pomagala z otroki.
in pomagala z otroki.
06:13
So she came out, her and Alice
put a lot of food together for the trip.
put a lot of food together for the trip.
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Prišla je in z Alice
sta pripravili veliko hrane za pot.
sta pripravili veliko hrane za pot.
06:17
That morning, we left at about 5 a.m.
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Odšli smo okrog petih zjutraj.
06:20
Great trip, having a great time,
good conversation.
good conversation.
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Čudovito potovanje, lepo smo se imeli,
se pogovarjali.
se pogovarjali.
06:24
Somewhere around 6:30, 7 o'clock,
we got a little bit tired,
we got a little bit tired,
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Nekje okrog pol sedmih, sedmih
smo postali malo utrujeni
smo postali malo utrujeni
06:27
and we said, "Why don't we get
a motel so that we can rest
a motel so that we can rest
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in rekli smo: "Pojdimo v motel,
kjer bomo lahko počivali
kjer bomo lahko počivali
06:30
and then have an early start
in the morning?"
in the morning?"
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in potem zjutraj zgodaj odšli na pot."
06:33
So we were looking at a number
of the motels as we drove down the road,
of the motels as we drove down the road,
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Med vožnjo smo videli veliko motelov
06:36
and we saw one, it was a great
big, bright flashing light that said,
big, bright flashing light that said,
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in na enem je velika
utripajoča luč vabila:
utripajoča luč vabila:
06:40
"Vacancies, Vacancies, Vacanies."
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"Proste sobe, proste sobe, proste sobe."
06:42
So we stopped in.
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Zato smo se ustavili.
Ostali so bili na parkirišču,
jaz sem šel noter.
jaz sem šel noter.
06:43
They were in the parking lot,
I went inside.
I went inside.
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06:45
When I walked inside,
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Ko sem stopil noter,
06:47
the lady was just finishing up
one contract with some folks,
one contract with some folks,
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je gospa ravno zaključevala
s skupino ljudi,
s skupino ljudi,
06:50
some other people
were coming in behind me.
were coming in behind me.
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nekaj ljudi pa je prihajalo noter za mano.
06:52
And so I walked to the counter,
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Tako sem stopil do pulta
06:54
and she said, "How can I help you?"
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in rekla je: "Kako vam lahko pomagam?"
06:56
I said, "I would like to get a motel
for the evening for my family."
for the evening for my family."
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Dejal sem: "Rad bi najel sobo
za ta večer za svojo družino."
za ta večer za svojo družino."
06:59
She said, "You know, I'm really sorry,
I just rented the last one.
I just rented the last one.
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Menila je: "Veste, zelo mi je žal,
ravno sem oddala zadnjo.
ravno sem oddala zadnjo.
07:04
We will not have any more
until the morning."
until the morning."
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Nič ne bo prosto do jutra."
07:06
She said, "But if you go down the road
about an hour, 45 minutes,
about an hour, 45 minutes,
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In dodala: "Če se peljete
po cesti eno uro, 45 minut,
po cesti eno uro, 45 minut,
07:10
there's another trailer park down there."
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je doli še eno prikoličarsko naselje."
07:13
I said, "Yeah, but you still have the
'Vacancies' light on, and it's flashing."
'Vacancies' light on, and it's flashing."
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Rekel sem: "Ja, ampak še vedno imate
prižgan napis 'Proste sobe' in utripa."
prižgan napis 'Proste sobe' in utripa."
07:16
She said, "Oh, I forgot."
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"Oh, pozabila sem," je dejala.
07:18
And she reached over
and turned the light off.
and turned the light off.
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Obrnila se je in ugasnila luč.
07:20
She looked at me and I looked at her.
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Pogledala me je in jaz sem pogledal njo.
07:22
There were other people in the room.
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Še drugi ljudje so bili v sobi.
07:24
She kind of looked at them.
No one said anything.
No one said anything.
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Pogledala jih je. Nihče ni rekel nič.
07:27
So I just got the hint and I left,
and went outside to the parking lot.
and went outside to the parking lot.
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Dojel sem in odšel na parkirišče.
07:30
And I told my mother and I told my wife
and also Melanie, and I said,
and also Melanie, and I said,
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Povedal sem mami in ženi
in tudi Melanie, rekel sem:
in tudi Melanie, rekel sem:
07:34
"It looks like we're going to have to
drive a little bit further down the road
drive a little bit further down the road
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"Očitno se bomo morali peljati
malo dlje po cesti,
malo dlje po cesti,
07:38
to be able to sleep tonight."
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da bomo lahko nocoj spali."
07:40
And we did drive down the road,
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In smo se odpeljali,
07:42
but just before we took off
and pulled out of the parking lot,
and pulled out of the parking lot,
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a malo preden smo
speljali s parkirišča,
speljali s parkirišča,
07:46
guess what happened?
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veste, kaj se je zgodilo?
07:47
The light came back on.
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Luč se je spet prižgala.
07:49
And it said, "Vacancies,
Vacancies, Vacancies."
Vacancies, Vacancies."
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In pisalo je: "Proste sobe,
proste sobe, proste sobe".
proste sobe, proste sobe".
07:52
We were able to find a nice place.
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Uspeli smo najti prijeten kraj.
07:54
It wasn't our preference,
but it was secure and it was clean.
but it was secure and it was clean.
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Ni bil naš najljubši,
a bil je varen in čist.
a bil je varen in čist.
07:59
And so we had a great sleep that night.
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Tako smo se tisto noč lepo naspali.
08:02
The piece that's important about that
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Kar je pomembno tu, je,
08:04
is that we had similar
kinds of experiences
kinds of experiences
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da smo imeli podobne izkušnje
08:07
from Idaho all the way through
to Pennsylvania,
to Pennsylvania,
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od Idaha vse do Pensilvanije,
08:10
where we were rejected from hotels,
motels and restaurants.
motels and restaurants.
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kjer so nas zavrnili v hotelih,
motelih in restavracijah.
motelih in restavracijah.
08:14
But we made it to Pennsylvania.
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A prišli smo v Pensilvanijo.
08:17
We got the family settled.
Everyone was glad to see the kids.
Everyone was glad to see the kids.
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Z družino smo se namestili.
Vsi so bili veseli, da vidijo otroke.
Vsi so bili veseli, da vidijo otroke.
08:21
I jumped on a plane and shot off
to Goose Bay, Labrador,
to Goose Bay, Labrador,
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Skočil sem na letalo
in odletel v Goose Bay, Labrador,
in odletel v Goose Bay, Labrador,
08:26
which is another story, right?
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kar pa je že druga zgodba, kajne?
08:27
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:30
Here it is, 53 years later,
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Tukaj sem 53 let kasneje,
08:34
I now have nine grandchildren,
two great-grandchildren.
two great-grandchildren.
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imam devet vnukov in dva pravnuka.
08:39
Five of the grandchildren are boys.
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Pet vnukov je fantov.
08:41
I have master's, Ph.D., undergrad,
one in medical school.
one in medical school.
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Imamo magisterij, doktorat,
diplomo, enega na medicinski fakulteti.
diplomo, enega na medicinski fakulteti.
08:47
I have a couple that are trending.
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Nekaj jih je "v trendu".
08:49
They're almost there but not quite.
(Laughter)
(Laughter)
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So skoraj tam, a ne še čisto.
(Smeh)
(Smeh)
Eden je na fakulteti že osem let.
08:52
I have one who has been
in college now for eight years.
in college now for eight years.
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08:55
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
08:56
He doesn't have a degree yet,
but he wants to be a comedian.
but he wants to be a comedian.
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Nima še diplome, a hoče biti komik.
09:00
So we're just trying to get him
to stay in school.
to stay in school.
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Želimo samo doseči, da ostane v šoli.
09:03
Because you never know,
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Ker nikoli ne veš,
09:04
just because you're funny at home,
does not make you a comedian, right?
does not make you a comedian, right?
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samo zato, ker si zabaven doma,
še nisi komik, kajne?
še nisi komik, kajne?
09:08
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:10
But the thing about it,
they're all good kids --
they're all good kids --
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A dobri otroci so -
09:13
no drugs, no babies
in high school, no crime.
in high school, no crime.
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nobenih drog,
nosečnosti v srednji šoli, kriminala.
nosečnosti v srednji šoli, kriminala.
09:17
So with that being the backdrop,
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S tem v mislih
09:19
I was sitting in my TV room watching TV,
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sem sedel v dnevni sobi
in gledal televizijo,
in gledal televizijo,
09:22
and they were talking about Ferguson
and all the hullabaloo that was going on.
and all the hullabaloo that was going on.
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ko so govorili o Fergusonu
in vsej tamkajšnji zmešnjavi.
in vsej tamkajšnji zmešnjavi.
09:26
And all of a sudden, one of the news
commentators got on the air and she said,
commentators got on the air and she said,
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Naenkrat je neka
televizijska komentatorka v eter rekla:
televizijska komentatorka v eter rekla:
09:32
"In the last three months,
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"V zadnjih treh mesecih
09:34
eight unarmed African-American males
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je osem neoboroženih
temnopoltih Američanov
temnopoltih Američanov
09:38
have been killed by police,
white homeowners, or white citizens."
white homeowners, or white citizens."
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ubila policija, beli lastniki domov
ali beli državljani.
ali beli državljani.
09:46
For some reason, at that moment
it just all hit me.
it just all hit me.
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Iz nekega razloga
me je v tistem trenutku zadelo.
me je v tistem trenutku zadelo.
09:49
I said, "What is it? It is so insane.
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Rekel sem: "Kaj je to? To je tako noro.
09:53
What is the hatred that's causing people
to do these kinds of things?"
to do these kinds of things?"
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Kaj to sovraštvo, zaradi katerega
ljudje počnejo vse te stvari?"
ljudje počnejo vse te stvari?"
09:58
Just then, one of my grandsons called.
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Takrat je poklical eden mojih vnukov.
10:01
He said, "Granddad, did you hear
what they said on TV?"
what they said on TV?"
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Rekel je: "Dedek, si slišal,
kaj so rekli na televiziji?"
kaj so rekli na televiziji?"
10:04
I said, "Yes, I did."
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Odvrnil sem: "Ja, sem."
10:05
He said, "I'm just so confused.
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"Tako zmeden sem," je dejal.
10:07
We do everything we do,
but it seems that driving while black,
but it seems that driving while black,
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"Vse počnemo kot vedno, a zdi se,
da je enostavno nevarno,
da je enostavno nevarno,
10:12
walking while black, talking while black,
it's just dangerous.
it's just dangerous.
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voziti, hoditi, govoriti, če si temnopolt.
10:16
What can we do? We do everything
that you told us to do.
that you told us to do.
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Kaj naj naredimo? Vse delamo tako,
kot si nas naučil.
kot si nas naučil.
10:21
When stopped by the police,
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Ko nas ustavi policija,
10:23
we place both hands on the steering wheel
at the 12 o'clock position.
at the 12 o'clock position.
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damo obe roki na volan
v položaj ure ob 12-ih.
v položaj ure ob 12-ih.
10:27
If asked to get identification,
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Če zahtevajo identifikacijo,
10:29
we tell them, 'I am slowly reaching over
into the glove compartment to get my I.D.'
into the glove compartment to get my I.D.'
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jim povemo: "Počasi segam v predal
po osebno izkaznico."
po osebno izkaznico."
10:35
When pulled out of the car to be searched,
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Ko nas potegnejo ven, da bi nas preiskali,
10:38
when laid on the ground to be searched,
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ko ležimo na tleh, da bi nas preiskali,
10:40
when our trunks are opened to be searched,
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ko so naši prtljažniki odprti
za preiskavo,
za preiskavo,
10:42
we don't push back, we don't challenge
because we know, you've told us,
because we know, you've told us,
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se ne upiramo, ne izzivamo,
ker vemo, ker si nam povedal:
ker vemo, ker si nam povedal:
10:46
'Don't you challenge the police.
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Ne izzivaj policije.
10:49
After it's over, call us and we'll
be the ones to challenge."
be the ones to challenge."
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Ko bo vsega konec, nas pokliči,
in bomo mi tisti, ki bomo izzivali."
in bomo mi tisti, ki bomo izzivali."
10:52
He said, "And this is the piece
that really bugs me:
that really bugs me:
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Rekel je še: "To pa me zares moti:
10:55
Our white friends, our buddies,
we kind of hang together.
we kind of hang together.
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naši beli prijatelji,
naši kolegi, družimo se.
naši kolegi, družimo se.
10:58
When they hear about these kinds
of things happening to us, they say,
of things happening to us, they say,
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In ko slišijo, kakšne stvari
se nam dogajajo, rečejo:
se nam dogajajo, rečejo:
11:02
'Why do you take it?
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Zakaj to prenašate?
11:04
You need to push back.
You need to challenge.
You need to challenge.
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Upreti se morate. Oporekati morate.
11:07
You need to ask them
for their identification.'"
for their identification.'"
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Morate zahtevati, da se identificirajo."
11:10
And here's what the boys have been
taught to tell them:
taught to tell them:
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In to sem naučil fante, naj jim rečejo:
11:12
"We know that you can do that,
but please do not do that
but please do not do that
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"Vemo, da vi lahko to storite,
ampak prosim ne delajte tega,
ampak prosim ne delajte tega,
11:15
while we're in the car
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medtem ko smo mi v avtu,
11:18
because the consequences for you
are significantly different
are significantly different
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ker so posledice za vas zelo drugačne,
11:21
than the consequences for us."
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kot so posledice za nas."
11:23
And so as a grandparent,
what do I tell my grandsons?
what do I tell my grandsons?
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In tako, kot dedek,
kaj naj povem svojim vnukom?
kaj naj povem svojim vnukom?
11:27
How do I keep them safe?
How do I keep them alive?
How do I keep them alive?
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Kako naj jih obvarujem?
Kako naj jih ohranim žive?
Kako naj jih ohranim žive?
11:30
As a result of this, people have
come to me and said,
come to me and said,
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Zaradi vsega tega me ljudje sprašujejo:
11:33
"Jim, are you angry?"
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"Jim, si jezen?"
11:37
And my response to that is this:
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In moj odziv je:
11:40
"I don't have the luxury of being angry,
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"Nimam tega razkošja,
da bi bil lahko jezen
da bi bil lahko jezen
11:46
and I also know the consequences
of being enraged."
of being enraged."
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in prav tako poznam posledice jeze."
Tako je edina stvar, ki jo lahko storim,
11:51
So therefore, the only thing that I can do
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11:53
is take my collective intellect and my
energy and my ideas and my experiences
energy and my ideas and my experiences
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da vzamem svojo pamet,
energijo, ideje in izkušnje
energijo, ideje in izkušnje
11:59
and dedicate myself to challenge,
at any point in time,
at any point in time,
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in se posvetim temu,
da v vsakem trenutku nasprotujem
da v vsakem trenutku nasprotujem
12:03
anything that looks
like it might be racist.
like it might be racist.
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čemerkoli, kar bi lahko bilo rasistično.
12:06
So the first thing I have
to do is to educate,
to do is to educate,
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Najprej moram izobraziti,
12:09
the second thing I have to do
is to unveil racism,
is to unveil racism,
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nato moram razkriti rasizem
12:12
and the last thing I need to do
is do everything within my power
is do everything within my power
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in nazadnje moram narediti vse, kar lahko,
12:15
to eradicate racism in my lifetime
by any means necessary.
by any means necessary.
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da s kakršnimikoli sredstvi
še v času življenja uničim rasizem.
še v času življenja uničim rasizem.
12:22
The second thing I do is this:
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Druga stvar, ki jo storim, je to:
12:25
I want to appeal to Americans.
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Rad bi pozval Američane.
12:28
I want to appeal to their humanity,
to their dignity,
to their dignity,
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Rad bi se skliceval na njihovo človečnost,
na njihovo dostojanstvo,
na njihovo dostojanstvo,
12:33
to their civic pride and ownership
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njihov državljanski ponos,
12:37
to be able to not react to these
heinous crimes in an adverse manner.
heinous crimes in an adverse manner.
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naj ne odreagirajo na te
grozljive zločine na škodljiv način.
grozljive zločine na škodljiv način.
12:45
But instead, to elevate your level
of societal knowledge,
of societal knowledge,
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Naj namesto tega dvignejo svojo raven
družbenega znanja,
družbenega znanja,
12:52
your level of societal awareness
and societal consciousness
and societal consciousness
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svojo raven družbenega zavedanja
in družbene zavesti,
in družbene zavesti,
12:56
to then collectively come together,
all of us come together,
all of us come together,
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da nato pridemo skupaj,
vsi mi pridemo skupaj,
vsi mi pridemo skupaj,
13:00
to make sure that we speak out against
and we challenge any kind of insanity,
and we challenge any kind of insanity,
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da bi nasprotovali
in dvomili v katerokoli norost,
in dvomili v katerokoli norost,
13:07
any kind of insanity that makes it
okay to kill unarmed people,
okay to kill unarmed people,
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katerokoli norost, zaradi katere se zdi
primerno ubijati neoborožene ljudi,
primerno ubijati neoborožene ljudi,
13:14
regardless of their ethnicity,
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ne glede na njihovo etničnost,
13:17
regardless of their race,
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ne glede na njihovo raso,
13:19
regardless of their diversity makeup.
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ne glede na njihovo raznolikost.
13:21
We have to challenge that.
It doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't make any sense.
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Temu moramo nasprotovati. Nima smisla.
13:25
The only way I think we can do that
is through a collective.
is through a collective.
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Edini način, da to storimo,
je skozi skupnost.
je skozi skupnost.
13:29
We need to have black and white
and Asian and Hispanic
and Asian and Hispanic
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Imeti moramo črne in bele,
in Azijce in Latinoameričane,
in Azijce in Latinoameričane,
13:32
just to step forward and say,
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ki bodo stopili naprej in rekli:
"Takega obnašanja ne sprejemamo več."
13:34
"We are not going to accept
that kind of behavior anymore."
that kind of behavior anymore."
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In s tem se vam zahvaljujem.
(Aplavz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
James A. White Sr. - ConsultantJames A. White Sr. believes that every person and organization has incredible potential. He works to help them understand it — and communicate it to others.
Why you should listen
James A. White Sr. is an executive coach and management consultant. The owner and president of Performance Consulting Services in Columbus, Ohio, he helps individuals, groups and organizations recognize their potential, fine-tune their strategic messages and present them effectively.
James is dedicated to sharing his energy, passion and insight into how to overcome life’s obstacles with others. As a dyslexic student in the inner city, he dropped out of high school — and after getting his G.E.D. jumpstarted his career by joining the U.S. Air Force. He went on to positions at Xerox, Wang Laboratories and Digital Equipment Corporation and has spent the past 25 as a consultant and educator. He also aims to share his experiences of racism in order to stress the message that all races, genders and backgrounds must come together to challenge the status quo.
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