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James A. White Sr.: The little problem I had renting a house
Džejm Vajt Stariji (James White, Sr.): Problemčić koji sam imao sa iznajmljivanjem kuće
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Pre 53 godine, Džejms A. Vajt se pridružio američkom ratnom vazduhoplovstvu. Međutim, budući da je Afroamerikanac, morao je da prevaziđe šokantne prepreke kako bi negde u blizini pronašao dom za svoju porodicu. On priča ovu moćnu priču o svom iskustvu svakodnevnog rasizma i o tome kako se ona danas odražava na način na koji uči svoje unuke da se ophode prema policiji.
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James A. White Sr. believes that every person and organization has incredible potential. He works to help them understand it — and communicate it to others. Full bio
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An 18-year-old, African-American male
joined the United States Air Force
joined the United States Air Force
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Afroamerikanac od 18 godina se pridružio
Američkom ratnom vazduhoplovstvu,
Američkom ratnom vazduhoplovstvu,
dodeljen je vazduhoplovnoj bazi
Mauntin Houm
Mauntin Houm
00:18
and was assigned to Mountain Home
Air Force Base
Air Force Base
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and was a part of the air police squadron.
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i postao je član eskadrile
vazduhoplovne policije.
vazduhoplovne policije.
Čim sam stigao tamo,
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Upon first arriving there,
the first goal that I had
the first goal that I had
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moj prvi cilj bio je da nađem stan,
00:28
was for me to identify an apartment,
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kako bih mogao da dovedem svoju ženu
i našu novorođenu bebu Melani
i našu novorođenu bebu Melani
00:30
so I could bring my wife
and my new baby, Melanie,
and my new baby, Melanie,
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da mi se pridruže u Ajdahu.
00:34
out to join me in Idaho.
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Odmah sam otišao do kancelarije za osoblje
00:36
I immediately went to
the personnel office,
the personnel office,
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i članovi osoblja su mi rekli:
00:39
and talking with the guys in personnel,
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00:41
they said, "Hey, no problem finding
an apartment in Mountain Home, Idaho.
an apartment in Mountain Home, Idaho.
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„Hej, nećeš imati problema da nađeš
stan u Mountin Houmu u Ajdahu.
stan u Mountin Houmu u Ajdahu.
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The people down there love us
because they know if they have an airman
because they know if they have an airman
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Ljudi nas tamo vole
jer znaju da će, ako imaju vazduhoplovca
koji dolazi da iznajmi neki njihov stan,
koji dolazi da iznajmi neki njihov stan,
00:51
who is coming in to rent
one of their apartments,
one of their apartments,
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uvek moći da naplate."
00:53
they'll always get their money."
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A to je bilo vrlo važno.
00:56
And that was a really important thing.
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Jedan mi je rekao: „Evo liste ljudi
koje možeš nazvati,
koje možeš nazvati,
00:58
He said, "So here is a list
of people that you can call,
of people that you can call,
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a onda će ti oni dopustiti
da odabereš stan po želji.“
da odabereš stan po želji.“
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and then they will then allow you
to select the apartment that you want."
to select the apartment that you want."
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01:04
So I got the list; I made the call.
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Tako sam dobio listu i obavio sam poziv.
01:07
The lady answered on the other end
and I told her what I wanted.
and I told her what I wanted.
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Javila mi se neka žena
i rekao sam joj šta želim.
i rekao sam joj šta želim.
Rekla je: „O, divno što ste nazvali.
01:10
She said, "Oh, great you called.
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Trenutno imamo četiri ili pet
raspoloživih stanova."
raspoloživih stanova."
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We have four or five apartments
available right now."
available right now."
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Rekla je: „Da li želite
jednosoban ili dvosoban stan?“
jednosoban ili dvosoban stan?“
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She said, "Do you want
a one-bedroom or two-bedroom?"
a one-bedroom or two-bedroom?"
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A onda je dodala:
„Hajde da ne pričamo o tome.
„Hajde da ne pričamo o tome.
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Then she said, "Let's not talk about that.
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Samo dođite i odaberite stan
koji vam se sviđa.
koji vam se sviđa.
01:22
Just come on down,
select the apartment that you want.
select the apartment that you want.
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Potpisaćemo ugovor
01:24
We'll sign the contract
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i dobićete ključeve, pa ćete odmah
moći da dovedete porodicu.“
moći da dovedete porodicu.“
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and you'll have keys in your hand
to get your family out here right away."
to get your family out here right away."
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01:30
So I was excited.
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Bio sam uzbuđen.
Uskočio sam u auto. Odvezao se
do centra grada i pokucao na vrata.
do centra grada i pokucao na vrata.
01:32
I jumped in my car. I went downtown
and knocked on the door.
and knocked on the door.
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Kada sam pokucao na vrata,
žena se pojavila,
žena se pojavila,
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When I knocked on the door,
the woman came to the door,
the woman came to the door,
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pogledala me i rekla:
„Da li mogu da vam pomognem?“
„Da li mogu da vam pomognem?“
01:38
and she looked at me, and she said,
"Can I help you?"
"Can I help you?"
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Rekao sam: „Da, sa mnom ste pričali
o stanovima za iznajmljivanje.
o stanovima za iznajmljivanje.
01:41
I said, "Yes, I'm the person
who called about the apartments.
who called about the apartments.
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Došao sam da odaberem stan za sebe.“
01:45
I was just coming down
to make my selection."
to make my selection."
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Ona je rekla: „Znate šta?
Zaista mi je žao,
Zaista mi je žao,
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She said, "You know what?
I'm really sorry,
I'm really sorry,
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ali moj muž je izdao te stanove
i nije mi ništa rekao.“
i nije mi ništa rekao.“
01:50
but my husband rented those apartments
and didn't tell me about them."
and didn't tell me about them."
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Rekao sam: „Hoćete da kažete da je izdao
svih pet stanova za sat vremena?“
svih pet stanova za sat vremena?“
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I said, "You mean he rented
all five of them in one hour?"
all five of them in one hour?"
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Nije mi odgovorila,
ali mi je rekla sledeće:
ali mi je rekla sledeće:
01:59
She didn't give me a response,
and what she said was this:
and what she said was this:
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„Zašto ne ostavite broj telefona
02:02
She said, "Why don't you
leave your number,
leave your number,
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i ako budemo imali slobodan stan,
ja ću Vas nazvati?“
ja ću Vas nazvati?“
02:04
and if we have some openings,
I'll give you a call?"
I'll give you a call?"
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Nije ni potrebno da vam kažem
da me nikada nije nazvala.
da me nikada nije nazvala.
02:07
Needless to say,
I did not get a call from her.
I did not get a call from her.
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02:11
Nor did I get any responses
from the other people
from the other people
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Niti sam dobio odgovor od ostalih ljudi
koji su bili na dobijenoj listi osoba
koje izdaju stanove.
koje izdaju stanove.
02:14
that they gave me on the list
where I could get apartments.
where I could get apartments.
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Zbog svega toga osećao sam se odbačeno,
02:17
So as a result of that,
and feeling rejected,
and feeling rejected,
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otišao sam nazad u bazu
i popričao sa komandantom eskadrile.
i popričao sa komandantom eskadrile.
02:20
I went back to the base, and I talked
to the squadron commander.
to the squadron commander.
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Ime mu je bilo Mekdau, major Mekdau.
02:23
His name was McDow, Major McDow.
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Rekao sam: „Majore Mekdau,
treba mi Vaša pomoć.“
treba mi Vaša pomoć.“
02:26
I said, "Major McDow, I need your help."
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Rekao sam mu šta se desilo,
a on mi je ovako odgovorio.
a on mi je ovako odgovorio.
02:28
I told him what happened,
and here's what he said to me:
and here's what he said to me:
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Rekao je: „Džejms, voleo bih
da ti pomognem,
da ti pomognem,
02:31
He said, "James, I would love to help you.
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ali znaš u čemu je problem?
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But you know the problem:
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Ne možemo da nateramo ljude da izdaju
stan onima kojima ne žele da izdaju.
stan onima kojima ne žele da izdaju.
02:35
We can't make people rent to folks
that they don't want to rent to.
that they don't want to rent to.
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02:39
And besides, we have a great relationship
with people in the community
with people in the community
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Osim toga, imamo odličan odnos
sa ljudima iz ove zajednice
sa ljudima iz ove zajednice
i ne želimo da ga pokvarimo.“
02:43
and we really don't want to damage that."
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Rekao je: „Stoga možda treba
ovako da uradiš.
ovako da uradiš.
02:45
He said, "So maybe this is
what you should do.
what you should do.
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Zašto ne ostaviš porodicu kod kuće,
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Why don't you let your family stay home,
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jer i sam znaš da ćeš dobiti
jedan mesec odsustva.
jedan mesec odsustva.
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because you do know
that you get a 30-day leave.
that you get a 30-day leave.
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02:53
So once a year,
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Tako, jednom godišnje
možeš da posetiš porodicu kod kuće,
provedeš s njima 30 dana i vratiš se.“
provedeš s njima 30 dana i vratiš se.“
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you can go home to your family,
spend 30 days and then come on back."
spend 30 days and then come on back."
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Ne moram ni da kažem
da mi se to nije dopalo.
da mi se to nije dopalo.
02:59
Needless to say, that didn't
resonate for me.
resonate for me.
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Posle razgovora s njim,
vratio sam se kod osoblja
vratio sam se kod osoblja
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So after leaving him,
I went back to personnel,
I went back to personnel,
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03:04
and talking to the clerk,
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i jedan službenik mi je rekao:
03:06
he said, "Jim, I think I have a
solution for you.
solution for you.
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„Džim, mislim da imam rešenje za tebe.
Poznajem jednog pilota koji odlazi,
a ima ovde prikolicu.
a ima ovde prikolicu.
03:09
There's an airman who is leaving
and he has a trailer.
and he has a trailer.
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Ako si primetio, u Mauntin Houmu
svuda ima prikolica i parkinga za njih.
svuda ima prikolica i parkinga za njih.
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If you noticed, in Mountain Home,
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there are trailer parks and trailers
all over the place.
all over the place.
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Možeš da kupiš njegovu prikolicu,
a verovatno će biti jeftina,
a verovatno će biti jeftina,
03:17
You can buy his trailer,
and you'd probably get a really good deal
and you'd probably get a really good deal
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jer on želi da ode iz grada što pre.
03:21
because he wants to get out of town
as soon as possible.
as soon as possible.
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To bi ti rešilo problem
03:24
And that would take care of your problem,
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i bilo rešenje koje ti treba.“
03:26
and that would provide
the solution for you."
the solution for you."
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Odmah sam uskočio u auto,
odvezao se u centar, pogledao prikolicu.
odvezao se u centar, pogledao prikolicu.
03:28
So I immediately jumped in my car,
went downtown, saw the trailer --
went downtown, saw the trailer --
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Bila je to mala prikolica,
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it was a small trailer,
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ali pod takvim okolnostima,
03:33
but under the circumstances,
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računao sam da je to najbolje
što mogu da uradim.
što mogu da uradim.
03:35
I figured that was the
best thing that I could do.
best thing that I could do.
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Tako sam kupio prikolicu
03:37
So I bought the trailer.
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i onda ga pitao: „Da li mogu
da je ostavim ovde?
da je ostavim ovde?
03:39
And then I asked him,
"Can I just leave the trailer here,
"Can I just leave the trailer here,
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03:42
and that would take care
of all my problems,
of all my problems,
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To bi mi rešilo sve probleme,
jer ne bih morao da tražim novi parking.“
03:44
I wouldn't have to find
another trailer park?"
another trailer park?"
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Rekao je: „Pre nego što pristanem,
moram da pitam upravu.“
moram da pitam upravu.“
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He said, "Before I say yes to that,
I need to check with management."
I need to check with management."
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Tako sam se vratio u bazu,
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So I get back to the base,
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pozvao me i rekao da je uprava kazala:
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he called me back and management said,
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03:54
"No, you can't leave the trailer here
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„Ne, ne možeš da ostaviš prikolicu tu
jer smo obećali to mesto
nekim drugim ljudima.“
nekim drugim ljudima.“
03:56
because we had promised that slot
to some other people."
to some other people."
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To mi je bilo čudno
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And that was strange to me
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jer je bilo još nekoliko slobodnih mesta,
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because there were several
other slots that were open,
other slots that were open,
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a on je obećao baš to mesto nekom.
04:04
but it just so happened that he
had promised that slot to someone else.
had promised that slot to someone else.
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Tako sam -
04:08
So, what I did --
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A onda je dodao: „Ne brini, Džim,
ovde ima dosta parkinga za prikolice.“
ovde ima dosta parkinga za prikolice.“
04:09
and he said, "You shouldn't worry, Jim,
because there are a lot of trailer parks."
because there are a lot of trailer parks."
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Tako sam sastavio još jednu iscrpnu listu
odlazaka na parkinge za prikolice.
odlazaka na parkinge za prikolice.
04:13
So I put out another exhaustive list
of going to trailer parks.
of going to trailer parks.
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Išao sam od jednog do drugog.
04:17
I went to one after another,
after another.
after another.
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04:19
And I got the same kind of rejection there
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Na isti način su me odbili
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that I received when I was looking
for the apartment.
for the apartment.
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kao kada sam tražio stan.
Kao rezultat, pored njihovih komentara
04:26
And as a result, the kind of comments
that they made to me,
that they made to me,
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i toga što su govorili
da nema slobodnih mesta,
da nema slobodnih mesta,
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in addition to saying that they
didn't have any slots open,
didn't have any slots open,
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jedna osoba je rekla: „Džim,
razlog zbog kog ne možemo da ti izdamo
razlog zbog kog ne možemo da ti izdamo
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one person said, "Jim, the reason
why we can't rent to you,
why we can't rent to you,
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je to što već imamo
jednu crnačku porodicu ovde.“
jednu crnačku porodicu ovde.“
04:39
we already have a Negro family
in the trailer park."
in the trailer park."
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04:43
He said, "And it's not me,
because I like you people."
because I like you people."
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Rekao je: „To nije zbog mene,
jer se meni vi sviđate.“
jer se meni vi sviđate.“
04:47
(Laughs)
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(Smeh)
To sam i ja uradio.
Zacerekao sam se.
Zacerekao sam se.
04:48
And that's what I did, too.
I chuckled, too.
I chuckled, too.
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04:52
He said, "But here's the problem:
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Rekao je: „Međutim, problem je u tome
što, ako te pustim da dođeš,
ostali zakupci će se iseliti,
ostali zakupci će se iseliti,
04:54
If I let you in, the other tenants
will move out
will move out
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a ne mogu da priuštim
da dozvolim takav gubitak.“
da dozvolim takav gubitak.“
04:58
and I can't afford to take
that kind of a hit."
that kind of a hit."
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Rekao je: „Prosto ne mogu da ti iznajmim.“
05:01
He said, "I just can't rent to you."
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05:04
Even though that was discouraging,
it didn't stop me.
it didn't stop me.
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Iako je ovo bilo obeshrabrujuće,
nije me zaustavilo.
nije me zaustavilo.
Nastavio sam potragu
05:06
I kept looking,
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i tražio sam u udaljenom kraju grada
u Mauntin Houmu,
u Mauntin Houmu,
05:07
and I looked at the far end
of the town in Mountain Home,
of the town in Mountain Home,
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gde je bio jedan mali
parking za prikolice,
parking za prikolice,
05:12
and there was a small trailer park.
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a pod tim mislim baš mali parking.
05:14
I mean, a really small trailer park.
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Nije bilo asfaltiranih puteva,
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It didn't have any paved roads in it,
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nije bilo betonskih ploča,
05:18
it didn't have the concrete slabs,
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nije bilo ograde da razdvoji
jedno mesto za parkiranje od ostalih.
jedno mesto za parkiranje od ostalih.
05:20
it didn't have fencing
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05:22
to portion off your trailer slot
from other trailer slots.
from other trailer slots.
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Nije bilo perionice veša.
05:25
It didn't have a laundry facility.
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Ipak, u tom trenutku sam zaključio
05:26
But the conclusion I reached
at that moment
at that moment
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da nemam baš puno opcija,
05:29
was that I didn't have
a lot of other options.
a lot of other options.
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05:31
So I called my wife, and I said,
"We're going to make this one work."
"We're going to make this one work."
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pa sam pozvao ženu i rekao joj:
„Potrudićemo se da uspemo.“
„Potrudićemo se da uspemo.“
Uselili smo se i postali vlasnici kuće
u Mauntin Houmu u Ajdahu.
u Mauntin Houmu u Ajdahu.
05:34
And we moved into it
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05:36
and we became homeowners
in Mountain Home, Idaho.
in Mountain Home, Idaho.
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Naravno, s vremenom
su se stvari sredile.
su se stvari sredile.
05:40
And of course, eventually
things settled down.
things settled down.
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05:44
Four years after that, I received papers
to move from Mountain Home, Idaho
to move from Mountain Home, Idaho
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Četiri godine kasnije sam dobio papire
da se preselim iz Mauntin Houma u Ajdahu
da se preselim iz Mauntin Houma u Ajdahu
05:50
to a place called Goose Bay, Labrador.
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u mesto pod imenom Gus Bej u Labradoru.
05:53
We won't even talk about that.
It was another great location. (Laughter)
It was another great location. (Laughter)
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Nećemo ni pričati o tome.
Bila je to još jedna sjajna lokacija.
Bila je to još jedna sjajna lokacija.
(Smeh)
Moj zadatak je tada bio da premestim
porodicu iz Mauntin Houma u Ajdahu
porodicu iz Mauntin Houma u Ajdahu
05:57
So my challenge then was to get my family
from Mountain Home, Idaho
from Mountain Home, Idaho
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u Šeron u Pensilvaniji.
06:01
to Sharon, Pennsylvania.
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To nije bio problem
jer smo nedavno kupili skroz nov auto.
jer smo nedavno kupili skroz nov auto.
06:03
That wasn't a problem because we
had just purchased a brand-new automobile.
had just purchased a brand-new automobile.
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Moja majka je nazvala
i rekla da će doći kod nas.
i rekla da će doći kod nas.
06:07
My mother called
and said she'll fly out.
and said she'll fly out.
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06:09
She'll be with us as we drive,
she'll help us manage the children.
she'll help us manage the children.
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Biće s nama na putu,
pomoći će nam oko dece.
pomoći će nam oko dece.
06:13
So she came out, her and Alice
put a lot of food together for the trip.
put a lot of food together for the trip.
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Tako je došla, ona i Alis su spremile
dosta hrane za put.
dosta hrane za put.
06:17
That morning, we left at about 5 a.m.
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Tog jutra smo krenuli oko 5 ujutro.
Sjajno putovanje, zabava, fini razgovori.
06:20
Great trip, having a great time,
good conversation.
good conversation.
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06:24
Somewhere around 6:30, 7 o'clock,
we got a little bit tired,
we got a little bit tired,
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Negde oko pola sedam, sedam uveče
smo se malo umorili
smo se malo umorili
06:27
and we said, "Why don't we get
a motel so that we can rest
a motel so that we can rest
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i rekao sam: „Zašto ne nađemo
neki motel i odmorimo
neki motel i odmorimo
kako bismo rano ujutro nastavili?“
06:30
and then have an early start
in the morning?"
in the morning?"
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Videli smo više motela pored puta
dok smo se vozili
dok smo se vozili
06:33
So we were looking at a number
of the motels as we drove down the road,
of the motels as we drove down the road,
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i onda ugledali jedan
koji je imao veliki, treperavi natpis:
koji je imao veliki, treperavi natpis:
06:36
and we saw one, it was a great
big, bright flashing light that said,
big, bright flashing light that said,
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„Slobodna mesta. Slobodna mesta.“
06:40
"Vacancies, Vacancies, Vacanies."
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06:42
So we stopped in.
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Zaustavili smo se.
06:43
They were in the parking lot,
I went inside.
I went inside.
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Oni su ostali na parkingu, ja sam ušao.
Kada sam ušao, službenica je upravo
zaključivala ugovor sa nekim ljudima,
zaključivala ugovor sa nekim ljudima,
06:45
When I walked inside,
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the lady was just finishing up
one contract with some folks,
one contract with some folks,
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a neki su dolazili iza mene.
06:50
some other people
were coming in behind me.
were coming in behind me.
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Prišao sam recepciji,
a ona je rekla: „Izvolite.“
a ona je rekla: „Izvolite.“
06:52
And so I walked to the counter,
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06:54
and she said, "How can I help you?"
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Rekao sam: „Hteo bih da iznajmim sobu
za svoju porodicu na jedno veče.“
za svoju porodicu na jedno veče.“
06:56
I said, "I would like to get a motel
for the evening for my family."
for the evening for my family."
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Rekla je: „Znate, veoma mi je žao,
ali upravo sam izdala poslednju.
ali upravo sam izdala poslednju.
06:59
She said, "You know, I'm really sorry,
I just rented the last one.
I just rented the last one.
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Nećemo imati drugih do ujutro.“
07:04
We will not have any more
until the morning."
until the morning."
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Rekla je: „Ali ako produžite
oko 45 minuta ili sat niz put,
oko 45 minuta ili sat niz put,
07:06
She said, "But if you go down the road
about an hour, 45 minutes,
about an hour, 45 minutes,
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there's another trailer park down there."
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postoji još jedan parking za prikolice.“
07:13
I said, "Yeah, but you still have the
'Vacancies' light on, and it's flashing."
'Vacancies' light on, and it's flashing."
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Rekao sam: „Da, ali i dalje vam je
uključen znak za slobodna mjesta.“
uključen znak za slobodna mjesta.“
Rekla je: „Oh, zaboravila sam.“
07:16
She said, "Oh, I forgot."
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Ispružila je ruku i ugasila svetlo.
07:18
And she reached over
and turned the light off.
and turned the light off.
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Onda me je pogledala
i ja sam pogledao u nju.
i ja sam pogledao u nju.
07:20
She looked at me and I looked at her.
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Bilo je i drugih u sobi.
07:22
There were other people in the room.
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Pogledala je ka njima.
Niko nije progovorio.
Niko nije progovorio.
07:24
She kind of looked at them.
No one said anything.
No one said anything.
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Shvatio sam nagoveštaj
i izašao na parking.
i izašao na parking.
07:27
So I just got the hint and I left,
and went outside to the parking lot.
and went outside to the parking lot.
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07:30
And I told my mother and I told my wife
and also Melanie, and I said,
and also Melanie, and I said,
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Rekao sam majci, ženi i Melaniji:
„Izgleda da ćemo morati
da se vozimo još malo dalje niz put
da se vozimo još malo dalje niz put
07:34
"It looks like we're going to have to
drive a little bit further down the road
drive a little bit further down the road
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da bismo se naspavali noćas.“
07:38
to be able to sleep tonight."
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I nastavili smo da se vozimo,
07:40
And we did drive down the road,
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ali tek što smo se isparkirali
i izašli sa parkinga,
i izašli sa parkinga,
07:42
but just before we took off
and pulled out of the parking lot,
and pulled out of the parking lot,
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znate šta se desilo?
07:46
guess what happened?
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Znak se ponovo uključio.
07:47
The light came back on.
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07:49
And it said, "Vacancies,
Vacancies, Vacancies."
Vacancies, Vacancies."
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Pisalo je: „Slobodna mesta.
Slobodna mesta.“
Slobodna mesta.“
07:52
We were able to find a nice place.
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Uspeli smo da nađemo fino mesto.
Nije bilo prvi izbor,
ali bilo je sigurno i čisto,
ali bilo je sigurno i čisto,
07:54
It wasn't our preference,
but it was secure and it was clean.
but it was secure and it was clean.
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07:59
And so we had a great sleep that night.
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te smo se odlično naspavali to veče.
08:02
The piece that's important about that
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Ono što je bitno je to
što smo imali sličnih iskustava
što smo imali sličnih iskustava
08:04
is that we had similar
kinds of experiences
kinds of experiences
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od Ajdaha sve do Pensilvanije,
08:07
from Idaho all the way through
to Pennsylvania,
to Pennsylvania,
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08:10
where we were rejected from hotels,
motels and restaurants.
motels and restaurants.
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gde su nas odbijali u hotelima,
motelima i restoranima.
motelima i restoranima.
Ipak, uspeli smo
da stignemo do Pensilvanije.
da stignemo do Pensilvanije.
08:14
But we made it to Pennsylvania.
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08:17
We got the family settled.
Everyone was glad to see the kids.
Everyone was glad to see the kids.
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Moja porodica se smestila.
Svima je bilo drago da vide decu.
Svima je bilo drago da vide decu.
Uskočio sam na avion
i odleteo u Gus Bej u Labradoru,
i odleteo u Gus Bej u Labradoru,
08:21
I jumped on a plane and shot off
to Goose Bay, Labrador,
to Goose Bay, Labrador,
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što je druga priča, zar ne?
08:26
which is another story, right?
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(Smeh)
08:27
(Laughter)
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08:30
Here it is, 53 years later,
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Evo nas, 53 godine kasnije.
08:34
I now have nine grandchildren,
two great-grandchildren.
two great-grandchildren.
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Sada imam devetoro unučadi,
dvoje praunučadi.
dvoje praunučadi.
08:39
Five of the grandchildren are boys.
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Petoro unučadi su dečaci.
Neki su na masteru, doktorskim, osnovnim
studijama, jedan studira medicinu.
studijama, jedan studira medicinu.
08:41
I have master's, Ph.D., undergrad,
one in medical school.
one in medical school.
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08:47
I have a couple that are trending.
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Neki nisu ni tu ni tamo.
08:49
They're almost there but not quite.
(Laughter)
(Laughter)
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Skoro su tu, ali ne skroz.
(Smeh)
Jedan studira već osam godina.
08:52
I have one who has been
in college now for eight years.
in college now for eight years.
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(Smeh)
08:55
(Laughter)
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08:56
He doesn't have a degree yet,
but he wants to be a comedian.
but he wants to be a comedian.
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Nije još diplomirao,
ali želi da postane komičar,
ali želi da postane komičar,
09:00
So we're just trying to get him
to stay in school.
to stay in school.
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pa se trudimo da ga zadržimo u školi.
09:03
Because you never know,
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Nikad ne znate;
to što zasmejavaš porodicu,
ne znači da si komičar, zar ne?
ne znači da si komičar, zar ne?
09:04
just because you're funny at home,
does not make you a comedian, right?
does not make you a comedian, right?
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(Smeh)
09:08
(Laughter)
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Ali ono što je bitno
je da su svi dobra deca.
je da su svi dobra deca.
09:10
But the thing about it,
they're all good kids --
they're all good kids --
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09:13
no drugs, no babies
in high school, no crime.
in high school, no crime.
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Nema droge, beba u srednjoj školi,
nema kriminala.
nema kriminala.
09:17
So with that being the backdrop,
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S tim kao pozadinom priče,
sedeo sam u sobi i gledao TV,
09:19
I was sitting in my TV room watching TV,
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09:22
and they were talking about Ferguson
and all the hullabaloo that was going on.
and all the hullabaloo that was going on.
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a pričali su o Fergusonu
i galami koja je to pratila.
i galami koja je to pratila.
09:26
And all of a sudden, one of the news
commentators got on the air and she said,
commentators got on the air and she said,
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Onda, odjednom, jedna od reporterki
je došla uživo i rekla:
je došla uživo i rekla:
09:32
"In the last three months,
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„U poslednja tri meseca,
09:34
eight unarmed African-American males
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osam nenaoružanih Afroamerikanaca
09:38
have been killed by police,
white homeowners, or white citizens."
white homeowners, or white citizens."
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ubijeno je od strane policije,
belih građana ili belih vlasnika kuća."
Iz nekog razloga me sve to
tada odjednom pogodilo.
tada odjednom pogodilo.
09:46
For some reason, at that moment
it just all hit me.
it just all hit me.
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09:49
I said, "What is it? It is so insane.
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Rekao sam: „Šta je ovo? Ovo je ludilo.
09:53
What is the hatred that's causing people
to do these kinds of things?"
to do these kinds of things?"
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Kakva to mržnja tera ljude da ovo rade?“
09:58
Just then, one of my grandsons called.
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I upravo tada me pozvao jedan od unuka.
10:01
He said, "Granddad, did you hear
what they said on TV?"
what they said on TV?"
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Rekao je: „Deko, jesi li čuo
šta su upravo rekli na televiziji?“
šta su upravo rekli na televiziji?“
10:04
I said, "Yes, I did."
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Rekao sam: „Jesam.“
10:05
He said, "I'm just so confused.
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Rekao je: „Potpuno sam zbunjen.
10:07
We do everything we do,
but it seems that driving while black,
but it seems that driving while black,
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Radimo sve kako treba, ali izgleda
da je voziti auto kad si crnac,
da je voziti auto kad si crnac,
10:12
walking while black, talking while black,
it's just dangerous.
it's just dangerous.
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hodati kad si crnac,
pričati kad si crnac - prosto opasno.
pričati kad si crnac - prosto opasno.
10:16
What can we do? We do everything
that you told us to do.
that you told us to do.
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Šta možemo da uradimo?
Radimo sve što si nam rekao da radimo.
Radimo sve što si nam rekao da radimo.
10:21
When stopped by the police,
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Kada nas zaustavi policija,
stavimo obe ruke ravno na volan.
10:23
we place both hands on the steering wheel
at the 12 o'clock position.
at the 12 o'clock position.
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10:27
If asked to get identification,
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Ako nam traže dokumenta,
10:29
we tell them, 'I am slowly reaching over
into the glove compartment to get my I.D.'
into the glove compartment to get my I.D.'
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kažemo: 'Polako ću otvoriti
kasetu da uzmem ličnu.'
kasetu da uzmem ličnu.'
10:35
When pulled out of the car to be searched,
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Kada nas zaustave da pregledaju auto,
kada nas spuste na zemlju da nas pretraže,
10:38
when laid on the ground to be searched,
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kada nam otvaraju gepek da ga pretraže,
10:40
when our trunks are opened to be searched,
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ne provociramo, ne suprotstavljamo se,
jer znamo, jer si nam rekao:
jer znamo, jer si nam rekao:
10:42
we don't push back, we don't challenge
because we know, you've told us,
because we know, you've told us,
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10:46
'Don't you challenge the police.
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„Ne izazivajte policiju.
10:49
After it's over, call us and we'll
be the ones to challenge."
be the ones to challenge."
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Kada bude gotovo, pozovi nas i mi
ćemo biti ti koji će se suprotstaviti.“
ćemo biti ti koji će se suprotstaviti.“
10:52
He said, "And this is the piece
that really bugs me:
that really bugs me:
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Rekao je: „A onda me ovo zaista muči.
10:55
Our white friends, our buddies,
we kind of hang together.
we kind of hang together.
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Naši prijatelji belci, naši drugari,
ljudi s kojima se družimo,
ljudi s kojima se družimo,
10:58
When they hear about these kinds
of things happening to us, they say,
of things happening to us, they say,
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kada čuju da nam se ovo dešava, kažu nam:
'Zašto to trpite?
11:02
'Why do you take it?
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11:04
You need to push back.
You need to challenge.
You need to challenge.
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Morate da odreagujete.
Morate da se suprotstavite.
Morate da se suprotstavite.
Morate vi njima
da tražite identifikaciju.'“
da tražite identifikaciju.'“
11:07
You need to ask them
for their identification.'"
for their identification.'"
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11:10
And here's what the boys have been
taught to tell them:
taught to tell them:
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Ovo smo naučili momke da im kažu:
„Znamo da vi to možete da uradite,
11:12
"We know that you can do that,
but please do not do that
but please do not do that
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ali molim vas da to ne radite
dok smo i mi u autu,
dok smo i mi u autu,
11:15
while we're in the car
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11:18
because the consequences for you
are significantly different
are significantly different
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jer su posledice po vas
značajno drugačije od posledica po nas.“
značajno drugačije od posledica po nas.“
11:21
than the consequences for us."
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od posledica po nas."
11:23
And so as a grandparent,
what do I tell my grandsons?
what do I tell my grandsons?
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Kao deda, šta treba
da kažem svojim unucima?
da kažem svojim unucima?
11:27
How do I keep them safe?
How do I keep them alive?
How do I keep them alive?
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Kako da ih zaštitim?
Kako da sprečim da poginu?
Kako da sprečim da poginu?
11:30
As a result of this, people have
come to me and said,
come to me and said,
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Zbog ovog mi je više ljudi
prišlo i pitalo me:
prišlo i pitalo me:
11:33
"Jim, are you angry?"
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„Džim, da li si ljut?“
11:37
And my response to that is this:
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A moj odgovor je ovo:
„Nemam taj luksuz da budem ljut,
11:40
"I don't have the luxury of being angry,
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11:46
and I also know the consequences
of being enraged."
of being enraged."
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a takođe znam posledice ljutnje.“
Tako je jedino što mogu da uradim
11:51
So therefore, the only thing that I can do
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da iskoristim sav svoj um,
energiju, ideje i iskustva
energiju, ideje i iskustva
11:53
is take my collective intellect and my
energy and my ideas and my experiences
energy and my ideas and my experiences
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11:59
and dedicate myself to challenge,
at any point in time,
at any point in time,
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i posvetim se tome da se suprotstavim,
u svakom trenutku,
u svakom trenutku,
12:03
anything that looks
like it might be racist.
like it might be racist.
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svemu što mi izgleda rasistički.
12:06
So the first thing I have
to do is to educate,
to do is to educate,
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Prva stvar koju moram da uradim
je da edukujem,
je da edukujem,
12:09
the second thing I have to do
is to unveil racism,
is to unveil racism,
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druga stvar koju moram da uradim
je da razotkrijem rasizam
je da razotkrijem rasizam
12:12
and the last thing I need to do
is do everything within my power
is do everything within my power
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i poslednje što treba da radim
je da uradim sve što mogu,
je da uradim sve što mogu,
12:15
to eradicate racism in my lifetime
by any means necessary.
by any means necessary.
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kako bih iskorenio rasizam
dok sam živ, na bilo koji način.
dok sam živ, na bilo koji način.
12:22
The second thing I do is this:
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Druga stvar koju radim je ovo.
12:25
I want to appeal to Americans.
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Želim da apelujem na Amerikance.
12:28
I want to appeal to their humanity,
to their dignity,
to their dignity,
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Želim da apelujem na njihovu humanost,
na njihovo dostojanstvo,
na njihovo dostojanstvo,
12:33
to their civic pride and ownership
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na njihov građanski ponos i pravo svojine
12:37
to be able to not react to these
heinous crimes in an adverse manner.
heinous crimes in an adverse manner.
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kako bih mogao da ne reagujem
na ove odvratne zločine na loš način,
12:45
But instead, to elevate your level
of societal knowledge,
of societal knowledge,
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već, umesto toga, da podignem
vaš nivo znanja o društvu,
vaš nivo znanja o društvu,
nivo društvene svesti
i društvene svesnosti,
i društvene svesnosti,
12:52
your level of societal awareness
and societal consciousness
and societal consciousness
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12:56
to then collectively come together,
all of us come together,
all of us come together,
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da bismo se združili, svi zajedno,
13:00
to make sure that we speak out against
and we challenge any kind of insanity,
and we challenge any kind of insanity,
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da preispitamo i suprotstavimo
se svakom vidu ludila,
se svakom vidu ludila,
svakom vidu ludila koji čini da je u redu
ubijati nenaoružane ljude,
ubijati nenaoružane ljude,
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any kind of insanity that makes it
okay to kill unarmed people,
okay to kill unarmed people,
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bez obzira na njihovo poreklo,
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regardless of their ethnicity,
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bez obzira na njihovu rasu,
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regardless of their race,
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bez obzira na njihovu različitost.
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regardless of their diversity makeup.
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Moramo tome da se suprotstavimo.
To nema nikakvog smisla.
To nema nikakvog smisla.
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We have to challenge that.
It doesn't make any sense.
It doesn't make any sense.
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Jedini način na koji mislim da ovo
možemo da uradimo je kao zajednica.
možemo da uradimo je kao zajednica.
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The only way I think we can do that
is through a collective.
is through a collective.
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We need to have black and white
and Asian and Hispanic
and Asian and Hispanic
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Moramo da skupimo i belce
i crnce i Azijate i Špance,
i crnce i Azijate i Špance,
da istupe i kažu:
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just to step forward and say,
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„Nećemo više tolerisati takvo ponašanje.“
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"We are not going to accept
that kind of behavior anymore."
that kind of behavior anymore."
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Hvala vam.
(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
James A. White Sr. - ConsultantJames A. White Sr. believes that every person and organization has incredible potential. He works to help them understand it — and communicate it to others.
Why you should listen
James A. White Sr. is an executive coach and management consultant. The owner and president of Performance Consulting Services in Columbus, Ohio, he helps individuals, groups and organizations recognize their potential, fine-tune their strategic messages and present them effectively.
James is dedicated to sharing his energy, passion and insight into how to overcome life’s obstacles with others. As a dyslexic student in the inner city, he dropped out of high school — and after getting his G.E.D. jumpstarted his career by joining the U.S. Air Force. He went on to positions at Xerox, Wang Laboratories and Digital Equipment Corporation and has spent the past 25 as a consultant and educator. He also aims to share his experiences of racism in order to stress the message that all races, genders and backgrounds must come together to challenge the status quo.
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