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Siegfried Woldhek: The search for the true face of Leonardo
Siegfried Woldhek o tem, kako je našel pravi obraz Leonarda
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Mona Lisa je eden najbolj znanih obrazov na tem planetu. Pa bi vi prepoznali podobo Leonarda da Vincija? Ilustrator Siegfried Woldhek s premišljeno tehniko analize podob najde obraz, za katerega je prepričan, da je resnično Leonardov.
Siegfried Woldhek - Illustrator
Siegfried Woldhek knows faces -- he's drawn more than 1,100 of them. Using sophisticated image analysis and his own skills as an artist, he's come up with a fascinating discovery about Leonardo Da Vinci. Full bio
Siegfried Woldhek knows faces -- he's drawn more than 1,100 of them. Using sophisticated image analysis and his own skills as an artist, he's come up with a fascinating discovery about Leonardo Da Vinci. Full bio
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Good morning.
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Pozdravljeni.
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Let's look for a minute at the greatest icon of all, Leonardo da Vinci.
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Vzemimo si nekaj minut za največjo ikono vseh časov, Leonarda da Vincija.
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We're all familiar with his fantastic work --
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Vsi poznamo njegova fantastična dela --
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his drawings, his paintings, his inventions, his writings.
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risbe, slike, izume, besedila.
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But we do not know his face.
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Ne poznamo pa njegovega obraza.
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Thousands of books have been written about him,
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O njem je napisanih na tisoče knjig,
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but there's controversy, and it remains, about his looks.
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še vedno pa obstaja polemika
glede njegovega videza.
glede njegovega videza.
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Even this well-known portrait is not accepted by many art historians.
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Celo tega slavnega portreta
mnogi umetnostni zgodovinarji ne priznavajo.
mnogi umetnostni zgodovinarji ne priznavajo.
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So, what do you think?
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Kaj pa vi mislite?
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Is this the face of Leonardo da Vinci or isn't it?
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Je to obraz Leonarda da Vincija ali ni?
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Let's find out.
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Poskusimo ugotoviti.
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Leonardo was a man that drew everything around him.
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Leonardo je bil človek, ki je risal vse okoli sebe.
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He drew people, anatomy, plants, animals, landscapes, buildings, water, everything.
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Risal je ljudi, anatomijo, rastline,
živali, pokrajino, stavbe, vodo, vse.
živali, pokrajino, stavbe, vodo, vse.
00:58
But no faces?
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Vse razen obrazov?
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I find that hard to believe.
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Težko verjamem.
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His contemporaries made faces, like the ones you see here --
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Njegovi sodobniki so delali obraze;
take, kot jih vidite tu --
take, kot jih vidite tu --
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en face or three-quarters.
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frontalno ali tričetrtinsko.
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So, surely a passionate drawer like Leonardo
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Prav gotovo je strastni risar,
kakršen je bil Leonardo,
kakršen je bil Leonardo,
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must have made self-portraits from time to time.
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od časa do časa naredil kakšen avtoportret.
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So let's try to find them.
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Poskusimo jih najti.
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I think that if we were to scan all of his work
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Če bi skenirali njegov celoten opus
in iskali avtoportrete,
in iskali avtoportrete,
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and look for self-portraits, we would find his face looking at us.
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bi po mojem mnenju ugotovili,
da imamo Leonardov obraz ves čas pred očmi.
da imamo Leonardov obraz ves čas pred očmi.
01:23
So I looked at all of his drawings, more than 700,
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Torej sem preučil vse njegove risbe, več kot 700,
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and looked for male portraits.
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in pri tem iskal moške portrete.
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There are about 120, you see them here.
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Teh je okoli 120, vidite jih tule.
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Which ones of these could be self-portraits?
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Kateri izmed njih bi lahko bili avtoportreti?
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Well, for that they have to be done as we just saw, en face or three-quarters.
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Narisani bi morali biti frontalno ali tričetrtinsko,
kot smo videli prej.
kot smo videli prej.
01:40
So we can eliminate all the profiles.
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Takoj lahko izločimo vse profile.
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It also has to be sufficiently detailed.
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Morajo biti tudi dovolj natančni.
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So we can also eliminate the ones that are very vague or very stylized.
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Tako lahko izločimo portrete,
ki so nerazločni ali zelo stilizirani.
ki so nerazločni ali zelo stilizirani.
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And we know from his contemporaries
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Od njegovih sodobnikov vemo,
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that Leonardo was a very handsome, even beautiful man.
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da je bil Leonardo zelo privlačen in celo lep moški.
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So we can also eliminate the ugly ones or the caricatures.
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Zato lahko izločimo portrete grdih moških in karikature.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:01
And look what happens -- only three candidates remain that fit the bill.
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Poglejte, kaj se je zgodilo --
samo 3 kandidati ustrezajo vsem pogojem.
samo 3 kandidati ustrezajo vsem pogojem.
02:06
And here they are.
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In tukaj so.
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Yes, indeed, the old man is there,
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Res je, starec je ostal,
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as is this famous pen drawing of the Homo Vitruvianus.
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prav tako njegov slavni "Vitruvijanski človek".
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And lastly, the only portrait of a male that Leonardo painted, "The Musician."
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In nazadnje, edini portret moškega,
ki ga je Leonardo kdaj narisal - "Glasbenik".
ki ga je Leonardo kdaj narisal - "Glasbenik".
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Before we go into these faces,
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Preden se jim posvetimo,
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I should explain why I have some right to talk about them.
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moram razložiti,
od kod imam pravico o njih govoriti.
od kod imam pravico o njih govoriti.
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I've made more than 1,100 portraits myself
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Narisal sem že več kot 1.100 avtoportretov
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for newspapers, over the course of 300 -- 30 years, sorry, 30 years only.
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za časopise, in to tekom 300 -- 30 let.
Oprostite, samo tekom 30 let.
Oprostite, samo tekom 30 let.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:32
But there are 1,100, and very few artists have drawn so many faces.
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Jih je pa 1.100
in malo umetnikov je narisalo toliko obrazov.
in malo umetnikov je narisalo toliko obrazov.
02:37
So I know a little about drawing and analyzing faces.
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Zato nekaj vem o risanju in analizi obrazov.
02:40
OK, now let's look at these three portraits.
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Tako, zdaj pa poglejmo tiste tri portrete.
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And hold onto your seats, because if we zoom in on those faces,
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Primite se za sedeže,
saj ko zumiramo njihove obraze,
saj ko zumiramo njihove obraze,
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remark how they have the same broad forehead, the horizontal eyebrows,
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opazimo, da imajo isto široko čelo,
vodoravne obrvi,
vodoravne obrvi,
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the long nose, the curved lips and the small, well-developed chin.
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dolg nos, ukrivljene ustnice
in majhno dobro razvito brado.
in majhno dobro razvito brado.
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I couldn't believe my eyes when I first saw that.
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Ko sem to prvič opazil,
nisem mogel verjeti svojim očem.
nisem mogel verjeti svojim očem.
02:56
There is no reason why these portraits should look alike.
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Nobenega razloga ni,
da bi si ti portreti morali biti podobni.
da bi si ti portreti morali biti podobni.
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All we did was look for portraits that had the characteristics of a self-portrait,
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Mi smo zgolj iskali portrete z značilnostmi avtoportreta
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and look, they are very similar.
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in glejte, zelo so si podobni.
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Now, are they made in the right order?
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Pa so narejeni v pravem časovnem zaporedju?
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The young man should be made first.
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Mladi moški bi moral biti narisan prvi.
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And as you see here from the years that they were created,
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Kot vidite iz letnic, v katerih je bil ustvarjen,
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it is indeed the case.
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je temu res tako.
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They are made in the right order.
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Narisani so v pravem časovnem zaporedju.
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What was the age of Leonardo at the time? Does that fit?
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Koliko je bil v tistem času star Leonardo?
Se to ujema?
Se to ujema?
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Yes, it does. He was 33, 38 and 63 when these were made.
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Se. Star je bil 33, 38 in 63 let,
ko je ustvaril te tri portrete.
ko je ustvaril te tri portrete.
03:20
So we have three pictures, potentially of the same person
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Imamo torej 3 slike,
na katerih je potencialno ista oseba
na katerih je potencialno ista oseba
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of the same age as Leonardo at the time.
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in je stara enako kot Leonardo v tistem času.
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But how do we know it's him, and not someone else?
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A kako vemo, da je to on in ne nekdo drug?
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Well, we need a reference.
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Potrebujemo primerjavo.
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And here's the only picture of Leonardo that's widely accepted.
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Tule vidite edino sliko Leonarda,
ki je splošno priznana.
ki je splošno priznana.
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It's a statue made by Verrocchio, of David,
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Gre za kip Davida, ki ga je ustvaril Verrocchio,
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for which Leonardo posed as a boy of 15.
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in za katerega je pri 15-ih poziral Leonardo.
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And if we now compare the face of the statue,
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In če zdaj primerjamo obraz na kipu
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with the face of the musician, you see the very same features again.
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z obrazom glasbenika,
spet vidimo, da gre za povsem iste poteze.
spet vidimo, da gre za povsem iste poteze.
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The statue is the reference, and it connects the identity of Leonardo
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Kip služi kot primerjava
in povezuje identiteto Leonarda
in povezuje identiteto Leonarda
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to those three faces.
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z našimi tremi obrazi.
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Ladies and gentlemen, this story has not yet been published.
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Dame in gospodje,
ta zgodba še ni bila objavljena.
ta zgodba še ni bila objavljena.
03:57
It's only proper that you here at TED hear and see it first.
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Edino primerno je, da jo ravno vi tu
na dogodku TED slišite in vidite prvi.
na dogodku TED slišite in vidite prvi.
04:00
The icon of icons finally has a face.
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Ikona vseh ikon je končno dobila svoj obraz.
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Here he is: Leonardo da Vinci.
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In tule je: Leonardo da Vinci.
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(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Siegfried Woldhek - IllustratorSiegfried Woldhek knows faces -- he's drawn more than 1,100 of them. Using sophisticated image analysis and his own skills as an artist, he's come up with a fascinating discovery about Leonardo Da Vinci.
Why you should listen
The work of illustrator Siegfried Woldhek is a familiar sight in the European press. His witty pen and sharp eye for faces helps him capture political and literary figures in his home country, the Netherlands, and around the world (he estimates he's drawn 1,100 faces). He's also an accomplished illustrator of nature, and was the longtime CEO of the Dutch branch of the World Wildlife Fund.
Woldhek is the founder of nabuur.com, "the global neighbor network." On nabuur.com, villages in developing communities can connect with volunteers and resources online throughout the world -- sort of a Match.com that pairs communities with the people who'd like to get involved.
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