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Aziz Abu Sarah: For more tolerance, we need more ... tourism?
Aziz Abu Sara (Aziz Abu Sarah): Za više tolerancije, potrebno nam je više... turizma?
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Aziz Abu Sara je palestinski aktivista sa neobičnim pristupom održavanju mira: budite turista. Ovaj učesnik TED Fellows programa pokazuje kako jednostavna komunikacija sa ljudima u različitim kulturama može da razori decenije mržnje. Počinje sa posetom Palestinaca Izraelu i nastavlja dalje od toga...
Aziz Abu Sarah - Entrepreneur + educator
Aziz Abu Sarah helps people break down cultural and historical barriers through tourism. Full bio
Aziz Abu Sarah helps people break down cultural and historical barriers through tourism. Full bio
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00:12
I'm a tourism entrepreneur
and a peacebuilder,
and a peacebuilder,
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Ja sam turistički preduzetnik
i održavalac mira,
i održavalac mira,
00:15
but this is not how I started.
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ali nisam ovako počeo.
00:18
When I was seven years old,
I remember watching television
I remember watching television
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Kada sam imao sedam godina,
sećam se da sam gledao televiziju
sećam se da sam gledao televiziju
00:21
and seeing people throwing rocks,
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i video sam ljude kako bacaju kamenje
00:24
and thinking, this must be
a fun thing to do.
a fun thing to do.
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i mislio sam, mora da je ovo zabavno.
00:27
So I got out to the street
and threw rocks,
and threw rocks,
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Tako sam izašao na ulicu
i bacao sam kamenje,
i bacao sam kamenje,
00:30
not realizing I was supposed
to throw rocks at Israeli cars.
to throw rocks at Israeli cars.
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ali nisam shvatio da treba
da ih bacam na izraelske automobile.
da ih bacam na izraelske automobile.
00:34
Instead, I ended up stoning
my neighbors' cars. (Laughter)
my neighbors' cars. (Laughter)
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Zapravo sam kamenovao
automobile mojih komšija. (Smeh)
automobile mojih komšija. (Smeh)
00:38
They were not enthusiastic
about my patriotism.
about my patriotism.
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Nisu bili oduševljeni mojim patrotizmom.
00:42
This is my picture with my brother.
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Ovo je slika mene s mojim bratom.
00:44
This is me, the little one,
and I know what you're thinking:
and I know what you're thinking:
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Ja sam manji, i znam šta mislite.
00:47
"You used to look cute,
what the heck happened to you?"
what the heck happened to you?"
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"Baš si bio sladak,
pobogu, šta ti se desilo?"
pobogu, šta ti se desilo?"
00:50
But my brother, who is older than me,
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Ali mog brata, koji je stariji od mene,
00:52
was arrested when he was 18,
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su uhapsili kada je imao 18 godina
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taken to prison on charges
of throwing stones.
of throwing stones.
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i odveli su ga u zatvor
pod optužbama da je bacao kamenje.
pod optužbama da je bacao kamenje.
00:57
He was beaten up when he refused
to confess that he threw stones,
to confess that he threw stones,
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Prebili su ga kada je odbio to da prizna,
01:01
and as a result, had internal injuries
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i za posledicu je imao unutrašnje povrede
01:04
that caused his death soon after
he was released from prison.
he was released from prison.
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koje su izazvale njegovu smrt
ubrzo nakon izlaska iz zatvora.
ubrzo nakon izlaska iz zatvora.
01:08
I was angry, I was bitter,
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Bio sam ljut i ogorčen
01:12
and all I wanted was revenge.
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i samo sam želeo osvetu.
01:16
But that changed when I was 18.
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Ali to se promenilo
kada sam napunio 18 godina.
kada sam napunio 18 godina.
01:18
I decided that I needed
Hebrew to get a job,
Hebrew to get a job,
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Odlučio sam da mi je hebrejski potreban
kako bih našao posao,
kako bih našao posao,
01:22
and going to study Hebrew
in that classroom
in that classroom
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i kada sam krenuo u učionici
da učim hebrejski,
da učim hebrejski,
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was the first time I ever met Jews
who were not soldiers.
who were not soldiers.
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tada sam prvi put sreo Jevreje
koji nisu bili vojnici.
koji nisu bili vojnici.
01:30
And we connected over really small things,
like the fact that I love country music,
like the fact that I love country music,
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Povezali smo se preko vema malih stvari,
poput toga da volim kantri muziku,
poput toga da volim kantri muziku,
01:34
which is really strange
for Palestinians.
for Palestinians.
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što je za Palestince veoma čudna stvar.
01:38
But it was then that I realized also
that we have a wall of anger,
that we have a wall of anger,
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Ali tada sam i shvatio
da svi imamo zid besa,
da svi imamo zid besa,
01:43
of hatred and of ignorance
that separates us.
that separates us.
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mržnje i neznanja
koji nas razdvaja.
koji nas razdvaja.
01:48
I decided that it doesn't matter
what happens to me.
what happens to me.
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Odlučio sam da nije bitno
šta mi se desi.
šta mi se desi.
01:53
What really matters is how I deal with it.
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Bitno je zapravo kako se ja
prema tome odnosim.
prema tome odnosim.
01:56
And therefore, I decided
to dedicate my life
to dedicate my life
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Stoga sam odlučio da svoj život posvetim
01:59
to bringing down the walls
that separate people.
that separate people.
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rušenju zidova koji razdvajaju ljude.
02:03
I do so through many ways.
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Ovo radim na mnogo načina.
02:05
Tourism is one of them,
but also media and education,
but also media and education,
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Turizam je jedan od njih,
ali tu su i mediji i obrazovanje,
ali tu su i mediji i obrazovanje,
02:08
and you might be wondering,
really, can tourism change things?
really, can tourism change things?
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i možda se pitate, da li turizam
zaista može da promeni stvari?
zaista može da promeni stvari?
02:12
Can it bring down walls? Yes.
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Može li da sruši zidove? Da.
02:14
Tourism is the best sustainable way
to bring down those walls
to bring down those walls
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Turizam je najbolji održiv način
za rušenje tih zidova
za rušenje tih zidova
02:19
and to create a sustainable way
of connecting with each other
of connecting with each other
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i stvaranje održivog načina
za međusobno povezivanje
za međusobno povezivanje
02:23
and creating friendships.
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i stvaranje prijateljstava.
02:26
In 2009, I cofounded Mejdi Tours,
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2009. sam osnovao Meždi Turs,
02:29
a social enterprise that
aims to connect people,
aims to connect people,
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društvni poduhvat koji za cilj ima
povezivanje ljudi,
povezivanje ljudi,
02:33
with two Jewish friends, by the way,
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a to sam uradio
sa dva prijatelja Jevreja.
sa dva prijatelja Jevreja.
02:35
and what we'll do, the model we did,
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Model koji smo napravili,
02:38
for example, in Jerusalem,
we would have two tour guides,
we would have two tour guides,
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na primer u Jerusalimu,
imao bi dva vodiča,
imao bi dva vodiča,
02:41
one Israeli and one Palestinian,
guiding the trips together,
guiding the trips together,
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jednog Izraelca i jednog Palestinca
koji zajedno vode ture
koji zajedno vode ture
02:44
telling history and narrative
and archaeology and conflict
and archaeology and conflict
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i iznose istoriju i priče
i arheologiju i konflikt
i arheologiju i konflikt
02:48
from totally different perspectives.
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iz potpuno različitih perspektiva.
02:51
I remember running a trip together
with a friend named Kobi --
with a friend named Kobi --
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Sećam se da sam zajedno vodio turu
sa prijateljem Kobijem -
sa prijateljem Kobijem -
02:54
Jewish congregation from Chicago,
the trip was in Jerusalem --
the trip was in Jerusalem --
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skupina Jevreja iz Čikaga,
tura je bira u Jerusalimu --
tura je bira u Jerusalimu --
02:57
and we took them to a refugee camp,
a Palestinian refugee camp,
a Palestinian refugee camp,
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i poveli smo ih do izbegličkog kampa,
kampa za Palestince,
kampa za Palestince,
03:00
and there we had this amazing food.
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i tu smo jeli neverovatnu hranu.
03:02
By the way, this is my mother. She's cool.
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Usput, ovo je moja majka.
Ona je kul.
Ona je kul.
03:05
And that's the Palestinian
food called maqluba.
food called maqluba.
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A ovo je palestinska hrana, maklube.
03:08
It means "upside-down."
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To znači "naopačke".
03:09
You cook it with rice and chicken,
and you flip it upside-down.
and you flip it upside-down.
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Kuva se sa pirinčem i piletinom
i okrene se naopačke.
i okrene se naopačke.
03:12
It's the best meal ever.
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To je najbolji obrok na svetu.
03:14
And we'll eat together.
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Svi smo jeli zajedno.
Tada smo napravili zajednički bend,
sa izraelskim i palestinskim muzičarima
sa izraelskim i palestinskim muzičarima
03:15
Then we had a joint band,
Israeli and Palestinian musicians,
Israeli and Palestinian musicians,
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03:18
and we did some belly-dancing.
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i plesali smo trbušni ples.
03:20
If you don't know any,
I'll teach you later.
I'll teach you later.
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Ako ne znate nijedan,
pokazaću vam posle.
pokazaću vam posle.
03:23
But when we left, both sides,
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Ali kada smo otišli,
sa obe strane je bilo plakanja
sa obe strane je bilo plakanja
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they were crying because
they did not want to leave.
they did not want to leave.
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jer niko nije želeo da ide.
03:29
Three years later, those
relationships still exist.
relationships still exist.
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Nakon tri godine,
te veze još uvek postoje.
te veze još uvek postoje.
03:33
Imagine with me
if the one billion people
if the one billion people
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Zamislite sa mnom
kada bi milijarda ljudi
kada bi milijarda ljudi
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who travel internationally
every year travel like this,
every year travel like this,
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koji putuju van svojih zemalja
svake godine putovalo ovako,
svake godine putovalo ovako,
03:39
not being taken in the bus
from one side to another,
from one side to another,
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a ne u autobusu od jedne do druge strane,
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from one hotel to another,
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od jednog do drugog hotela,
03:45
taking pictures from the windows
of their buses of people and cultures,
of their buses of people and cultures,
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slikajući iza prozora
svojih autobusa, ljudi i kultura,
svojih autobusa, ljudi i kultura,
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but actually connecting with people.
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već se zapravo povezujući sa ljudima?
03:52
You know, I remember having
a Muslim group from the U.K.
a Muslim group from the U.K.
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Znate, sećam se grupe muslimana
iz Ujedinjenog kraljevstva,
iz Ujedinjenog kraljevstva,
03:56
going to the house
of an Orthodox Jewish family,
of an Orthodox Jewish family,
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išli su do kuće jedne
pravoslavne jevrejske porodice,
pravoslavne jevrejske porodice,
03:58
and having their first Friday night
dinners, that Sabbath dinner,
dinners, that Sabbath dinner,
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i prvi petak uveče su proveli
na večeri za sabat
na večeri za sabat
04:03
and eating together hamin,
which is a Jewish food, a stew,
which is a Jewish food, a stew,
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i zajedno su jeli hamin,
jevrejsku vrstu čorbe,
jevrejsku vrstu čorbe,
04:06
just having the connection
of realizing, after a while,
of realizing, after a while,
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prosto su se povezivali
nakon što su shvatili
nakon što su shvatili
04:09
that a hundred years ago,
their families came out
their families came out
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da su pre sto godina
njihove porodice potekle
njihove porodice potekle
04:12
of the same place in Northern Africa.
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iz istog mesta u Severnoj Africi.
04:15
This is not a photo profile
for your Facebook.
for your Facebook.
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Ovo nije profilna slika za vaš Fejsbuk.
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This is not disaster tourism.
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Ovo nije turizam propasti.
04:20
This is the future of travel,
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Ovo je budućnost putovanja
04:23
and I invite you to join me to do that,
to change your travel.
to change your travel.
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i pozivam vas da uradite upravo to,
da promenite način putovanja.
da promenite način putovanja.
04:26
We're doing it all over the world now,
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To radimo sada širom sveta,
04:28
from Ireland to Iran to Turkey,
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od Irske, preko Irana, do Turske
04:30
and we see ourselves going
everywhere to change the world.
everywhere to change the world.
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i vidimo sebe kako idemo svuda
kako bismo promenili svet.
kako bismo promenili svet.
04:33
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
04:34
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Aziz Abu Sarah - Entrepreneur + educatorAziz Abu Sarah helps people break down cultural and historical barriers through tourism.
Why you should listen
When Aziz Abu Sarah was a boy, his older brother was arrested on charges of throwing stones. He was taken to prison and beaten — and died of his injuries. Sarah grew up angry, bitter and wanting revenge. But when later in life he met, for the first time, Jews who were not soldiers, Sarah had an epiphany: Not only did they share his love of small things, namely country music, but coming face to face with the “enemy” compelled him to find ways to overcome hatred, anger and fear.
Sarah founded MEJDI Tours to send tourists to Jerusalem with two guides, one Jewish and one Palestinian, each offering a different history and narrative of the city. Sarah tells success stories of tourists from the US visiting a Palestinian refugee camp and listening to joint Arab and Jewish bands play music, and of a Muslim family from the UK sharing Sabbath dinner with a Jewish family and realizing that 100 years ago, their people came from the same town in Northern Africa. MEJDI is expanding its service to Iran, Turkey, Ireland and other regions suffering from cultural conflict. If more of the world’s 1 billion tourists were to engage with real people living real lives, argues Sarah, it would be a powerful force for shattering sterotypes and promoting understanding, friendship and peace.
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