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Aziz Abu Sarah: For more tolerance, we need more ... tourism?
Aziz Abu Sarah: 为了更多的宽容，我们需要更多的……旅游？
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Aziz Abu Sarah 是一个巴勒斯坦活动家，他有着不同寻常的建设和平的方法——旅游。他告诉我们不同文化的人之间简单的互动可以帮助消除仇恨。他从巴勒斯坦人拜访以色列人开始讲起……
Aziz Abu Sarah - Entrepreneur + educator
Aziz Abu Sarah helps people break down cultural and historical barriers through tourism. Full bio
Aziz Abu Sarah helps people break down cultural and historical barriers through tourism. Full bio
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我是一个旅游企业家以及和平建设者，
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I'm a tourism entrepreneur
and a peacebuilder,
and a peacebuilder,
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but this is not how I started.
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不过我并不是一开始就做这行的。
在我7岁那年，我记得在电视上看到
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When I was seven years old,
I remember watching television
I remember watching television
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and seeing people throwing rocks,
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别人丢石头，
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and thinking, this must be
a fun thing to do.
a fun thing to do.
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我在想：这一定很好玩！
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So I got out to the street
and threw rocks,
and threw rocks,
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于是我走到大街上去丢石头，
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not realizing I was supposed
to throw rocks at Israeli cars.
to throw rocks at Israeli cars.
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而我不知道的是，
我应该向以色列的车丢石头，
我应该向以色列的车丢石头，
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Instead, I ended up stoning
my neighbors' cars. (Laughter)
my neighbors' cars. (Laughter)
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而我却砸了我邻居的车。（笑声）
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They were not enthusiastic
about my patriotism.
about my patriotism.
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他们对我的这个爱国之举很无语。
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This is my picture with my brother.
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这是我跟我哥哥的照片。
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This is me, the little one,
and I know what you're thinking:
and I know what you're thinking:
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小的这个是我，我知道你在想什么：
“你小时候挺可爱的，怎么长成了这样？”
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"You used to look cute,
what the heck happened to you?"
what the heck happened to you?"
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But my brother, who is older than me,
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我的哥哥，他比我大一些，
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was arrested when he was 18,
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在他18岁的时候被捕了，
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taken to prison on charges
of throwing stones.
of throwing stones.
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他因丢石头被关进了监狱。
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He was beaten up when he refused
to confess that he threw stones,
to confess that he threw stones,
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当他拒绝承认他丢石头的时候，
他遭到了猛打，
他遭到了猛打，
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and as a result, had internal injuries
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结果他受了很严重了内伤，
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that caused his death soon after
he was released from prison.
he was released from prison.
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导致他出狱不久后就死了。
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I was angry, I was bitter,
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我很生气，很愤愤不平，
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and all I wanted was revenge.
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我只想报复。
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But that changed when I was 18.
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不过这在我18岁的时候发生了改变。
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I decided that I needed
Hebrew to get a job,
Hebrew to get a job,
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我决定我需要学好希伯来语并找到一份工作，
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and going to study Hebrew
in that classroom
in that classroom
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去课堂学习希伯来语
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was the first time I ever met Jews
who were not soldiers.
who were not soldiers.
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让我第一次见到不是士兵的犹太人。
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And we connected over really small things,
like the fact that I love country music,
like the fact that I love country music,
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我们很快找到了很多共同点，
比如我爱乡村音乐，
比如我爱乡村音乐，
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which is really strange
for Palestinians.
for Palestinians.
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虽然这在巴勒斯坦人中是很罕见的。
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But it was then that I realized also
that we have a wall of anger,
that we have a wall of anger,
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这段经历让我意识到
我们之间有一睹由愤怒、
仇恨和无知筑成的墙。
仇恨和无知筑成的墙。
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of hatred and of ignorance
that separates us.
that separates us.
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I decided that it doesn't matter
what happens to me.
what happens to me.
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我意识到在我身上发生什么并不重要，
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What really matters is how I deal with it.
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重要的是我如何看待面对它。
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And therefore, I decided
to dedicate my life
to dedicate my life
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于是，我决定把自己的生命
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to bringing down the walls
that separate people.
that separate people.
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花在拆除这堵把我们分开的墙上。
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I do so through many ways.
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我有几个不同的途径。
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Tourism is one of them,
but also media and education,
but also media and education,
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旅游是其中一个，还有媒体和教育，
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and you might be wondering,
really, can tourism change things?
really, can tourism change things?
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你可能在想：
真的吗？旅游能改变什么呢？
真的吗？旅游能改变什么呢？
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Can it bring down walls? Yes.
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它能拆除这些墙吗？
是的！旅游是最好的
拆除这些墙的可持续途径，
拆除这些墙的可持续途径，
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Tourism is the best sustainable way
to bring down those walls
to bring down those walls
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and to create a sustainable way
of connecting with each other
of connecting with each other
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旅游可以成为连接对方和
创造友谊的可持续途径。
创造友谊的可持续途径。
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and creating friendships.
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In 2009, I cofounded Mejdi Tours,
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在2009年，我帮助创办了
Mejdi 旅游（Mejdi Tours），
Mejdi 旅游（Mejdi Tours），
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a social enterprise that
aims to connect people,
aims to connect people,
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一个旨在把人与人连接起来的社会企业，
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with two Jewish friends, by the way,
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对了，我是跟两个犹太朋友一起创办的。
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and what we'll do, the model we did,
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我们是这样做的，
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for example, in Jerusalem,
we would have two tour guides,
we would have two tour guides,
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比如在耶路撒冷，我们会有两个导游，
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one Israeli and one Palestinian,
guiding the trips together,
guiding the trips together,
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一个以色列人和一个巴勒斯坦人，
一起提供讲解，
一起提供讲解，
从完全不同的角度
讲解历史、发生的故事、考古和冲突。
讲解历史、发生的故事、考古和冲突。
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telling history and narrative
and archaeology and conflict
and archaeology and conflict
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from totally different perspectives.
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我记得和一个朋友 Kobi 一起讲解，
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I remember running a trip together
with a friend named Kobi --
with a friend named Kobi --
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Jewish congregation from Chicago,
the trip was in Jerusalem --
the trip was in Jerusalem --
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这是给来自芝加哥的一个犹太人团队讲解，
地点在耶路撒冷，
地点在耶路撒冷，
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and we took them to a refugee camp,
a Palestinian refugee camp,
a Palestinian refugee camp,
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我们把他们带到了一个难民区，
一个巴勒斯坦难民区，
一个巴勒斯坦难民区，
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and there we had this amazing food.
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在那里我们吃了无比美味的食物。
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By the way, this is my mother. She's cool.
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对了，这是我的妈妈。她人很好。
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And that's the Palestinian
food called maqluba.
food called maqluba.
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这是巴勒斯坦食物 maqluba，
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It means "upside-down."
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意思是“上下颠倒”。
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You cook it with rice and chicken,
and you flip it upside-down.
and you flip it upside-down.
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这是把米饭和鸡肉放在一起煮，然后再倒过来，
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It's the best meal ever.
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真是人间美味。
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And we'll eat together.
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我们会一起吃饭，
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Then we had a joint band,
Israeli and Palestinian musicians,
Israeli and Palestinian musicians,
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接着我们有一个联合乐队，
以色列和巴勒斯坦音乐人一起，
以色列和巴勒斯坦音乐人一起，
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and we did some belly-dancing.
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我们还跳了肚皮舞。
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If you don't know any,
I'll teach you later.
I'll teach you later.
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如果你不知道怎么跳，我可以等下教你。
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But when we left, both sides,
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等到我们离开的时候，所有的人都哭了，
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they were crying because
they did not want to leave.
they did not want to leave.
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因为他们不想离开。
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Three years later, those
relationships still exist.
relationships still exist.
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三年过去了，这些友谊还在。
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Imagine with me
if the one billion people
if the one billion people
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请跟我一起想象一下如果10亿人——
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who travel internationally
every year travel like this,
every year travel like this,
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也就是世界上每年旅行的人数，
都这样旅行，
都这样旅行，
不是坐在大巴上从一个目的地到另一个目的地，
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not being taken in the bus
from one side to another,
from one side to another,
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from one hotel to another,
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从一个酒店到另一个酒店，
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taking pictures from the windows
of their buses of people and cultures,
of their buses of people and cultures,
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在大巴上透过窗户拍窗外的人们和文化，
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but actually connecting with people.
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而是融入到当地的人和文化里面。
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You know, I remember having
a Muslim group from the U.K.
a Muslim group from the U.K.
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我记得一个来自英国的穆斯林团，
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going to the house
of an Orthodox Jewish family,
of an Orthodox Jewish family,
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进入到一个正统的犹太教家庭里面，
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and having their first Friday night
dinners, that Sabbath dinner,
dinners, that Sabbath dinner,
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他们吃了他们的第一顿
星期五的安息日晚饭，
星期五的安息日晚饭，
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and eating together hamin,
which is a Jewish food, a stew,
which is a Jewish food, a stew,
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一起吃犹太食物 hamin，也就是杂烩，
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just having the connection
of realizing, after a while,
of realizing, after a while,
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并在不久后意识到
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that a hundred years ago,
their families came out
their families came out
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一百年前，他们的祖先
是从北非的同一个地方走出来的。
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of the same place in Northern Africa.
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这不是一张你用来放在脸书上的头像照片，
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This is not a photo profile
for your Facebook.
for your Facebook.
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This is not disaster tourism.
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这不是灾区旅游，
这是未来的旅游，
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This is the future of travel,
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and I invite you to join me to do that,
to change your travel.
to change your travel.
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我邀请你加入我们来改变你的旅游。
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We're doing it all over the world now,
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我们现在正在世界各地倡导这种旅游，
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from Ireland to Iran to Turkey,
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从爱尔兰到伊朗再到土耳其，
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and we see ourselves going
everywhere to change the world.
everywhere to change the world.
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我们可以看到我们必将散播各地改变世界。
谢谢！
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Thank you.
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（掌声）
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(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Aziz Abu Sarah - Entrepreneur + educatorAziz Abu Sarah helps people break down cultural and historical barriers through tourism.
Why you should listen
When Aziz Abu Sarah was a boy, his older brother was arrested on charges of throwing stones. He was taken to prison and beaten — and died of his injuries. Sarah grew up angry, bitter and wanting revenge. But when later in life he met, for the first time, Jews who were not soldiers, Sarah had an epiphany: Not only did they share his love of small things, namely country music, but coming face to face with the “enemy” compelled him to find ways to overcome hatred, anger and fear.
Sarah founded MEJDI Tours to send tourists to Jerusalem with two guides, one Jewish and one Palestinian, each offering a different history and narrative of the city. Sarah tells success stories of tourists from the US visiting a Palestinian refugee camp and listening to joint Arab and Jewish bands play music, and of a Muslim family from the UK sharing Sabbath dinner with a Jewish family and realizing that 100 years ago, their people came from the same town in Northern Africa. MEJDI is expanding its service to Iran, Turkey, Ireland and other regions suffering from cultural conflict. If more of the world’s 1 billion tourists were to engage with real people living real lives, argues Sarah, it would be a powerful force for shattering sterotypes and promoting understanding, friendship and peace.
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