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Dan Pallotta: The dream we haven't dared to dream
丹·帕洛塔: 那些我们还没有勇气追逐的梦想
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你的梦想是什么？或者，你曾经破碎的梦想是什么？丹·帕洛塔梦想有一天我们能把对人性的探索和对科技的探索以同样的热情，同样的好奇，和同样科学的方法来发展我们的人性。“最可怕的是我们自己放弃了我们与生俱来的可以真正实现我们潜力的梦想”丹·帕洛塔说，“想像一下在世界上尽管我们意识到那深深存在的恐惧，仍然勇敢地深爱着彼此，因为我们知道要得到人生的真谛，必须学会与这种恐惧共存。”
Dan Pallotta - Author, speaker, reformer
We dream boldly in the dimension of our doing, but set the bar no higher than stability in our emotional lives. It’s time to dream in multiple dimensions at the same time, says AIDSRide Founder Dan Pallotta. He aims to transform the way society thinks about giving, and being. Full bio
We dream boldly in the dimension of our doing, but set the bar no higher than stability in our emotional lives. It’s time to dream in multiple dimensions at the same time, says AIDSRide Founder Dan Pallotta. He aims to transform the way society thinks about giving, and being. Full bio
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When I think about dreams,
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当我想到梦想
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like many of you,
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与很多人一样，
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I think about this picture.
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我会想到这张图片。
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I was eight when I watched Neil Armstrong
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八岁时我看见尼尔·阿姆斯特朗
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step off the Lunar Module
onto the surface of the Moon.
onto the surface of the Moon.
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从登月舱中走出踏上月球表面。
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I had never seen anything like it before,
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前无古人
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and I've never seen
anything like it since.
anything like it since.
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后亦无来者。
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We got to the Moon for one simple reason:
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我们登月的原因很简单：
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John Kennedy committed us to a deadline.
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肯尼迪总统向大家承诺了死限。
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And in the absence of that deadline,
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如果没有这个死限，
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we would still be dreaming about it.
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也许这件事还只是一个梦想。
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Leonard Bernstein said two things
are necessary for great achievement:
are necessary for great achievement:
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伦纳德·伯恩斯坦说过
伟大的成就有两个必要条件
伟大的成就有两个必要条件
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a plan and not quite enough time.
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一个计划和不太够的时间。
00:59
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
01:03
Deadlines and commitments
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死限和承诺
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are the great and fading
lessons of Apollo.
lessons of Apollo.
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是阿波罗计划留给我们深刻
却渐渐淡化的一堂课。
却渐渐淡化的一堂课。
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And they are what give the word
"moonshot" its meaning.
"moonshot" its meaning.
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是他们定义了什么叫“射月思维”。
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And our world is in desperate need
of political leaders
of political leaders
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现在世界上急需伟大的政治领导
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willing to set bold deadlines
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设立像阿波罗那样大胆的有死限的计划
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for the achievement of daring dreams
on the scale of Apollo again.
on the scale of Apollo again.
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来再次地成就伟大的梦想。
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When I think about dreams,
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当我想到梦想，
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I think about the drag queens
of LA and Stonewall
of LA and Stonewall
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我会想到洛杉矶和斯通沃尔的异装女皇，
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and millions of other people
risking everything
risking everything
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和那些数以百万, 不顾一切危险
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to come out when that
was really dangerous,
was really dangerous,
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勇敢站出来的人们。
01:45
and of this picture of the White House
lit up in rainbow colors,
lit up in rainbow colors,
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也会想到最终美国白宫
也装扮上了彩虹色。
也装扮上了彩虹色。
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yes --
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是的
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(Applause) --
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（掌声）
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celebrating America's gay and lesbian
citizens' right to marry.
citizens' right to marry.
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这是为了庆祝美国
同性恋公民有权利结婚。
同性恋公民有权利结婚。
01:59
It is a picture that in my wildest dreams
I could never have imagined
I could never have imagined
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我从没想过有一天，
我梦寐以求的梦想可以实现。
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when I was 18
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当时我18岁，发现自己是一个男同性恋，
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and figuring out that I was gay
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and feeling estranged from my country
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感觉被自己的国家遗弃，
02:13
and my dreams because of it.
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同时也因此感觉自己
离梦想越来越远。
离梦想越来越远。
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I think about this picture of my family
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我从没想过我可以有
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that I never dreamed I could ever have --
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这样一张梦想裡的家庭照。
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(Applause) --
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（掌声）
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and of our children holding this headline
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我们的孩子可以拿着这样的报纸头条，
02:34
I never dreamed could ever be printed
about the Supreme Court ruling.
about the Supreme Court ruling.
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我从没想过最高法院会立法支持我们。
02:40
We need more of the courage
of drag queens and astronauts.
of drag queens and astronauts.
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我们需要更多异装皇后
和宇航员那样的勇气。
和宇航员那样的勇气。
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(Laughter)
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（笑声）
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(Applause)
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（掌声）
02:51
But I want to talk
about the need for us to dream
about the need for us to dream
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但是我想以不同的角度，
讨论我们需要梦想的必要性。
讨论我们需要梦想的必要性。
02:54
in more than one dimension,
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because there was something about Apollo
that I didn't know when I was 8,
that I didn't know when I was 8,
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因为八岁时我并不知晓
阿波罗计划的事情，
阿波罗计划的事情，
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and something about organizing
that the rainbow colors over.
that the rainbow colors over.
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也不知道彩虹色标志背后的艰辛。
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Of the 30 astronauts in the original
Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs,
Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs,
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30位“水星”“双子星”和
“阿波罗”先遣计划的宇航员中
“阿波罗”先遣计划的宇航员中
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only seven marriages survived.
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只有七位的婚姻侥幸存活。
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Those iconic images of the astronauts
bouncing on the Moon
bouncing on the Moon
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那些在月球表面弹跳的标誌性画面
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obscure the alcoholism
and depression on Earth.
and depression on Earth.
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掩盖了他们在地球上的酗酒和抑郁。
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Thomas Merton, the Trappist monk,
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托马斯·默顿
一位特拉比斯特派的僧人
一位特拉比斯特派的僧人
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asked during the time of Apollo,
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在阿波罗计划期间题问过，
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"What can we gain by sailing to the moon
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“如果我们都不能够
填平人与人之间的巨大隔阂
我们通过登月又能获得什么呢？”
我们通过登月又能获得什么呢？”
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if we are not able to cross the abyss
that separates us from ourselves?"
that separates us from ourselves?"
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And what can we gain by the right to marry
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如果我们无法跨越
言语的刻薄和情感的距离
言语的刻薄和情感的距离
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if we are not able to cross the acrimony
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and emotional distance
that so often separates us from our love?
that so often separates us from our love?
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即使有了结婚的权利
我们得到的是甚么？
我们得到的是甚么？
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And not just in marriage.
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不仅仅是婚姻方面。
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I have seen the most hurtful, destructive,
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我曾经见过最伤人的
最破坏性的，最惨烈的内讧
最破坏性的，最惨烈的内讧
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tragic infighting in LGBT and AIDS
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发生在同性恋与艾滋病患者之间，
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and breast cancer and non-profit activism,
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发生在乳癌患者和非盈利组织之中，
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all in the name of love.
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而这些内讧都被冠以爱的名义。
04:14
Thomas Merton also wrote
about wars among saints
about wars among saints
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托马斯·默顿
在关于先哲的战争中也写到
在关于先哲的战争中也写到
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and that "there is a pervasive form
of contemporary violence
of contemporary violence
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“当今让理想主义者
最容易屈服的當代暴力
最容易屈服的當代暴力
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to which the idealist
most easily succumbs:
most easily succumbs:
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有一种普遍的现象：
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activism and overwork.
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行动主义和过度疲劳。
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The frenzy of our activism
neutralizes our work for peace.
neutralizes our work for peace.
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行动主义的狂热
抵消了我们为
促进和平所付出的努力
促进和平所付出的努力
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It destroys our own
inner capacity for peace."
inner capacity for peace."
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并破坏了我们内心
对和平的嚮往。”
对和平的嚮往。”
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Too often our dreams become
these compartmentalized fixations
these compartmentalized fixations
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我们的梦想往往
会变得无疾而终，
会变得无疾而终，
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on some future
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让我们失去了活在当下的能力。
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that destroy our ability to be present
for our lives right now.
for our lives right now.
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Our dreams of a better life
for some future humanity
for some future humanity
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我们的梦想都是关于
人类未来更好的生活
人类未来更好的生活
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or some other humanity in another country
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关于其他国家人民更好的生活。
05:02
alienate us from the beautiful
human beings sitting next to us
human beings sitting next to us
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卻反而让我们疏远了
此时此刻坐在我们身边的美好人们。
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at this very moment.
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Well, that's just the price
of progress, we say.
of progress, we say.
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好吧，我们说这就是进步的代价。
05:13
You can go to the Moon
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你可以去月球
05:15
or you can have stability
in your family life.
in your family life.
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或者也可以仅仅维持家庭的稳定。
05:19
And we can't conceive of dreaming
in both dimensions at the same time.
in both dimensions at the same time.
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在同一時間，鱼与熊掌不可兼得。
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And we don't set the bar
much higher than stability
much higher than stability
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而且说到感情生活的时候
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when it comes to our emotional life.
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我们也不敢奢望太多，
简单稳定即可。
简单稳定即可。
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Which is why our technology
for talking to one another
for talking to one another
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所以帮助我们与他人交流的科技一直呈
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has gone vertical,
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指数式增长
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our ability to listen
and understand one another
and understand one another
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但是我们倾听和理解别人的能力
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has gone nowhere.
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却没有变化。
05:43
Our access to information
is through the roof,
is through the roof,
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我们获得了很多很多知识
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our access to joy, grounded.
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却没有获得一点点快乐。
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But this idea, that our present
and our future are mutually exclusive,
and our future are mutually exclusive,
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一般认爲，我们的现在
和未来不可兼得，
和未来不可兼得，
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that to fulfill our potential for doing
we have to surrender
we have to surrender
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如果要实现我们的潜力
就要放弃当下，
就要放弃当下，
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our profound potential for being,
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that the number of transistors
on a circuit can be doubled and doubled,
on a circuit can be doubled and doubled,
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电路版上的晶体管数
可以翻倍再翻倍，
可以翻倍再翻倍，
06:10
but our capacity for compassion
and humanity and serenity and love
and humanity and serenity and love
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但是我们的同情心
人性、平常心和爱卻是有限的，
人性、平常心和爱卻是有限的，
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is somehow limited
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這些观点是错误的，
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is a false and suffocating choice.
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是自掘坟墓的选择。
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Now, I'm not suggesting
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我不是在陈词滥调地建议
06:24
simply the uninspiring idea
of more work-life balance.
of more work-life balance.
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保持工作生活平衡。
06:31
What good is it for me to spend
more time with my kids at home
more time with my kids at home
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如果心不在焉，
那花更多的时间，
待在家陪孩子也没有意义。
待在家陪孩子也没有意义。
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if my mind is always somewhere else
while I'm doing it?
while I'm doing it?
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06:38
I'm not even talking about mindfulness.
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我现在也不是在讲专注。
06:40
Mindfulness is all of a sudden becoming
a tool for improving productivity.
a tool for improving productivity.
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专注突然就变成了
提高效率的工具。
提高效率的工具。
06:45
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
06:48
Right?
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是吧？
06:49
I'm talking about dreaming
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我现在讲的是梦想，
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as boldly in the dimension of our being
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一种活在当下，
在工作和科技中进步的梦想。
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as we do about industry and technology.
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06:59
I'm talking about
an audacious authenticity
an audacious authenticity
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我在讨论一种无畏的真情
07:04
that allows us to cry with one another,
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让我们可以为彼此流泪，
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a heroic humility that allows us
to remove our masks and be real.
to remove our masks and be real.
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我在讨论一种伟大的谦逊
让我们摘下面具，真诚相待。
让我们摘下面具，真诚相待。
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It is our inability
to be with one another,
to be with one another,
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正是因为我们缺乏互相沟通的能力
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our fear of crying with one another,
that gives rise to so many
that gives rise to so many
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因为我们由于害怕不敢互相哭诉
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of the problems we are frantically
trying to solve in the first place,
trying to solve in the first place,
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才会出现很多诸如
国会僵局，经济不人道等
国会僵局，经济不人道等
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from Congressional gridlock
to economic inhumanity.
to economic inhumanity.
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我们一直在疯狂解决的问题。
07:28
(Applause)
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（掌声）
07:31
I'm talking about what Jonas Salk
called an Epoch B,
called an Epoch B,
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我在说乔纳斯·索尔克所谓的 B 时代
07:35
a new epoch in which we become
as excited about and curious about
as excited about and curious about
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在这个时代的我们
无论是对于科技的进步
无论是对于科技的进步
07:41
and scientific about
the development of our humanity
the development of our humanity
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还是对于人性的发展
07:45
as we are about the development
of our technology.
of our technology.
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都无比的激动，
无比的好奇，无比的理性。
无比的好奇，无比的理性。
07:49
We should not shrink from this opportunity
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我们不能因为不了解
07:51
simply because
we don't really understand it.
we don't really understand it.
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就放弃这样的机会。
07:55
There was a time
when we didn't understand space.
when we didn't understand space.
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以前我们也不了解太空，
但不能因为我们对于所知的科技
和行动主义比加熟悉就要放弃了解太空。
和行动主义比加熟悉就要放弃了解太空。
07:58
Or because we're more used
to technology and activism.
to technology and activism.
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08:02
That is the very definition
of being stuck in a comfort zone.
of being stuck in a comfort zone.
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这无疑是画地为牢。
08:05
We are now very comfortable imagining
unimaginable technological achievement.
unimaginable technological achievement.
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我们现在很舒服地
幻想不可思议的科技进步。
幻想不可思议的科技进步。
08:11
In 2016, it is the dimension
of our being itself
of our being itself
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在2016年，我们急需我们的人性
08:16
that cries out for its fair share
of our imagination.
of our imagination.
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在我们的梦想之中占据一席之地。
08:23
Now, we're all here to dream,
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各位今天来这裡
都是要追逐梦想的，
都是要追逐梦想的，
08:26
but maybe if we're honest about it,
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如果我们彼此真诚以待
08:27
each of us chasing our own dream.
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我们都可以追逐自己的梦想。
08:30
You know, looking at the name tags
to see who can help me with my dream,
to see who can help me with my dream,
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当我们环顾周围人的名牌，
看看有谁可以帮我完成梦想的时候，
看看有谁可以帮我完成梦想的时候，
08:34
sometimes looking right through
one another's humanity.
one another's humanity.
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我们有时候会忽略了名牌
背后的那个灵魂，
背后的那个灵魂，
08:37
I can't be bothered with you right now.
I have an idea for saving the world.
I have an idea for saving the world.
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抱歉，我现在不想被打扰，
我正在思考如何拯救世界。
我正在思考如何拯救世界。
08:41
Right?
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对吧？
08:42
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
08:45
Years ago, once upon a time,
I had this beautiful company
I had this beautiful company
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几年前，我曾经设立了
这样一个美好的公司，
这样一个美好的公司，
08:50
that created these long journeys
for heroic civic engagement.
for heroic civic engagement.
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我们让英勇的公民
参与到这趟长程的旅途当中。
参与到这趟长程的旅途当中。
08:54
And we had this mantra:
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我们的座右铭是：
08:56
"Human. Kind. Be Both."
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“与人为善 于己为善“
09:01
And we encouraged people to experiment
outrageously with kindness.
outrageously with kindness.
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我们鼓励大家积极行善，
09:07
Like, "Go help everybody
set up their tents."
set up their tents."
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比如“帮助大家支起他们的帐篷”
09:11
And there were a lot of tents.
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然后很多帐篷就支起来了。
09:13
(Laughter)
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09:16
"Go buy everybody Popsicles."
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“给大家买冰棍。”
09:17
"Go help people fix their flat tires
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“帮助需要的人补胎
09:19
even though you know
the dinner line is going to get longer."
the dinner line is going to get longer."
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哪怕要花更多时间排队等晚饭。“
09:22
And people really took us up on this,
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人们真的开始这样积极地帮忙
09:25
so much so that if you got
a flat tire on the AIDS ride,
a flat tire on the AIDS ride,
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以至于如果你在
为艾滋病骑行的过程中爆胎了
为艾滋病骑行的过程中爆胎了
09:27
you had trouble fixing it, because there
were so many people there asking you
were so many people there asking you
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你很难去修好它，
因为太多的人在询问你
因为太多的人在询问你
是否需要帮忙。
09:31
if you needed help.
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09:33
For a few days,
for tens of thousands of people,
for tens of thousands of people,
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几天中，我们为上万人
09:37
we created these worlds
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创造了这样的世界
09:39
that everybody said were the way
they wish the world could always be.
they wish the world could always be.
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所有人都希望这样的世界
可否一直这样美好下去。
可否一直这样美好下去。
09:46
What if we experimented
with creating that kind of world
with creating that kind of world
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如果我们可以在接下来的日子
一直创造这样的世界，
一直创造这样的世界，
09:50
these next few days?
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我们会得到什么结果呢？
09:54
And instead of going up to someone
and asking them, "What do you do?"
and asking them, "What do you do?"
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与其找到别人问他：“你是做什么的？”
09:59
ask them, "So what are your dreams?"
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不如问他们：“你有什么梦想？”
10:02
or "What are your broken dreams?"
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或者：“你未能实现的梦想是什么？”
10:05
You know, "TED."
Tend to Each other's Dreams.
Tend to Each other's Dreams.
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“TED”就是
关心每一个人的梦想。
关心每一个人的梦想。
10:10
(Applause)
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10:15
Maybe it's "I want to stay sober"
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也许梦想就是“我想要戒酒”
10:18
or "I want to build
a tree house with my kid."
a tree house with my kid."
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或者“我想和我的孩子
建造一个树屋”。
建造一个树屋”。
10:21
You know, instead of going up
to the person everybody wants to meet,
to the person everybody wants to meet,
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与其去趋炎附势，
10:24
go up to the person who is all alone
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不如雪中送炭，
10:26
and ask them if they want
to grab a cup of coffee.
to grab a cup of coffee.
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问问那些孤独的人
是否需要一杯咖啡。
是否需要一杯咖啡。
10:30
I think what we fear most
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我想我们最害怕的是，
10:33
is that we will be denied the opportunity
to fulfill our true potential,
to fulfill our true potential,
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我们自己放弃了我们与生俱来
10:37
that we are born to dream
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可以真正实现我们潜力的梦想，
10:40
and we might die
without ever having the chance.
without ever having the chance.
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害怕我们至死都不曾一试。
10:45
Imagine living in a world
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想像一下在一个世界中，
10:47
where we simply recognize
that deep, existential fear in one another
that deep, existential fear in one another
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尽管我们意识到了
那深深存在的恐惧，
那深深存在的恐惧，
我们仍然勇敢地深爱着彼此
10:53
and love one another boldly
because we know
because we know
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10:56
that to be human
is to live with that fear.
is to live with that fear.
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因为我们知道要得到人生的真谛，
必须学会与这种恐惧共存。
必须学会与这种恐惧共存。
11:01
It's time for us to dream
in multiple dimensions simultaneously,
in multiple dimensions simultaneously,
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是时候让我们同时
从不同的方向一起梦想，
从不同的方向一起梦想，
11:08
and somewhere that transcends
all of the wondrous things
all of the wondrous things
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在我们尽我们所能不停地追寻
并实现我们远大的梦想之后，
并实现我们远大的梦想之后，
11:12
we can and will and must do
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11:16
lies the domain of all
the unbelievable things we could be.
the unbelievable things we could be.
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我们会得到人生的真谛。
11:23
It's time we set foot into that dimension
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是时候让我们朝新的方向探索
11:27
and came out about the fact
that we have dreams there, too.
that we have dreams there, too.
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并开始实现我们的梦想了。
11:33
If the Moon could dream,
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如果月亮能梦想
11:38
I think that would be its dream for us.
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我想它的梦想会跟我们一样。
11:43
It's an honor to be with you.
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与各位相聚是一种荣幸。
11:45
Thank you very much.
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非常感谢
11:47
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Dan Pallotta - Author, speaker, reformerWe dream boldly in the dimension of our doing, but set the bar no higher than stability in our emotional lives. It’s time to dream in multiple dimensions at the same time, says AIDSRide Founder Dan Pallotta. He aims to transform the way society thinks about giving, and being.
Why you should listen
"The nonprofit sector is critical to our dream of changing the world. Yet there is no greater injustice than the double standard that exists between the for-profit and nonprofit sectors. One gets to feast on marketing, risk-taking, capital and financial incentive, the other is sentenced to begging,” Dan Pallotta says in discussing his book Charity Case. This economic starvation of our nonprofits is why he believes we are not moving the needle on great social problems. “My goal … is to fundamentally transform the way the public thinks about charity within 10 years.”
Pallotta is best known for creating the multi-day charitable event industry, and a new generation of philanthropists with the AIDS Rides and Breast Cancer 3-Day events, which raised $582 million in nine years. He is president of Advertising for Humanity, which helps foundations and philanthropists transform the growth potential of their favorite grantees. He is also the founder and President of the Charity Defense Council .
Dan Pallotta | Speaker | TED.com