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Dan Pallotta: The dream we haven't dared to dream
丹．帕洛塔: 我們未敢追逐的夢想
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你的夢想是什麼？或者，你未曾實現的夢想是什麼？丹．帕洛塔 (Dan Pallotta ) 夢想有一天，我們把對發展科技所投注的熱情、好奇心與科學的方法，同樣地投注到發展人道上。 帕洛塔說道 :「人生的終極恐懼，莫過於我們沒有機會實現自己的潛力」，「想像我們住在一個世界裡，在這裡，每個人都能理解他人心中那份與生俱來的恐懼--並勇敢地深愛彼此，因為我們知道要得到人生的真諦，必須學會與這種恐懼共存。」
Dan Pallotta - Author, speaker, reformer
We dream boldly in the dimension of our doing, but set the bar no higher than stability in our emotional lives. It’s time to dream in multiple dimensions at the same time, says AIDSRide Founder Dan Pallotta. He aims to transform the way society thinks about giving, and being. Full bio
We dream boldly in the dimension of our doing, but set the bar no higher than stability in our emotional lives. It’s time to dream in multiple dimensions at the same time, says AIDSRide Founder Dan Pallotta. He aims to transform the way society thinks about giving, and being. Full bio
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When I think about dreams,
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每當我想到夢想
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like many of you,
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跟很多人一樣，
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I think about this picture.
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我會想到這張照片。
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I was eight when I watched Neil Armstrong
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那年我八歲，看到尼爾．阿姆斯壯
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step off the Lunar Module
onto the surface of the Moon.
onto the surface of the Moon.
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從登月艙出來，踏上月球表面。
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I had never seen anything like it before,
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那是一個空前
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and I've never seen
anything like it since.
anything like it since.
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絕後的場景。
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We got to the Moon for one simple reason:
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我們登上了月球
只爲一個簡單的原因：
只爲一個簡單的原因：
00:40
John Kennedy committed us to a deadline.
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約翰．甘迺迪
對我們承諾了最後期限。
對我們承諾了最後期限。
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And in the absence of that deadline,
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如果沒有這樣一個期限，
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we would still be dreaming about it.
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我們至今都還在做登月美夢。
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Leonard Bernstein said two things
are necessary for great achievement:
are necessary for great achievement:
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倫納德．伯恩斯坦曾經説過
偉大的成就，有兩個必要條件：
偉大的成就，有兩個必要條件：
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a plan and not quite enough time.
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一是計劃，二是不太足夠的時間。
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(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
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Deadlines and commitments
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最後期限和承諾
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are the great and fading
lessons of Apollo.
lessons of Apollo.
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是阿波羅計劃留給我們
寶貴卻漸漸被淡忘的課程。
寶貴卻漸漸被淡忘的課程。
01:14
And they are what give the word
"moonshot" its meaning.
"moonshot" its meaning.
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是它們賦予了
「登月任務」獨特的意義。
「登月任務」獨特的意義。
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And our world is in desperate need
of political leaders
of political leaders
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當今世界非常需要能夠
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willing to set bold deadlines
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設定大膽期限的政治領袖，
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for the achievement of daring dreams
on the scale of Apollo again.
on the scale of Apollo again.
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來實現能媲美
阿波羅登月計劃的新夢想。
阿波羅登月計劃的新夢想。
01:34
When I think about dreams,
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每當我想到夢想，
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I think about the drag queens
of LA and Stonewall
of LA and Stonewall
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我會想到洛杉磯和
石牆酒吧的變裝皇后們，
石牆酒吧的變裝皇后們，
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and millions of other people
risking everything
risking everything
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以及那些數以百萬,
不顧一切危險
不顧一切危險
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to come out when that
was really dangerous,
was really dangerous,
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勇敢站出來的人們。
01:45
and of this picture of the White House
lit up in rainbow colors,
lit up in rainbow colors,
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也會想到這張白宮
亮起彩虹旗的照片，
亮起彩虹旗的照片，
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yes --
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是的，
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(Applause) --
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（掌聲）
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celebrating America's gay and lesbian
citizens' right to marry.
citizens' right to marry.
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慶祝美國同性戀的婚姻合法化。
01:59
It is a picture that in my wildest dreams
I could never have imagined
I could never have imagined
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我不敢奢望的夢想，
竟有實現的一天。
竟有實現的一天。
02:04
when I was 18
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那年我十八歲，
02:06
and figuring out that I was gay
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因意識到了
自己是一個男同性戀，
自己是一個男同性戀，
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and feeling estranged from my country
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而感覺到自己被國家拋棄，
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and my dreams because of it.
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覺得自己離夢想越來越遠。
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I think about this picture of my family
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我從沒想過我可以有
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that I never dreamed I could ever have --
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這樣一張夢想中的家庭照。
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(Applause) --
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（掌聲）
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and of our children holding this headline
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我們的孩子拿著這篇報刊頭條，
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I never dreamed could ever be printed
about the Supreme Court ruling.
about the Supreme Court ruling.
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我做夢也沒想到，最高法院的裁決
就這樣出現在這份頭條裡。
就這樣出現在這份頭條裡。
02:40
We need more of the courage
of drag queens and astronauts.
of drag queens and astronauts.
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我們需要更多變裝皇后
和宇航員那樣的勇氣。
和宇航員那樣的勇氣。
02:46
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
02:48
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
02:51
But I want to talk
about the need for us to dream
about the need for us to dream
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但是我想以不同的角度，
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in more than one dimension,
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討論我們需要夢想的必要性。
02:56
because there was something about Apollo
that I didn't know when I was 8,
that I didn't know when I was 8,
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因為八歲的我，並不知道
阿波羅計劃背後的故事，
阿波羅計劃背後的故事，
03:02
and something about organizing
that the rainbow colors over.
that the rainbow colors over.
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也不瞭解彩虹旗背後的艱辛。
03:07
Of the 30 astronauts in the original
Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs,
Mercury, Gemini and Apollo programs,
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30 位水星、雙子星和
阿波羅先遣計劃的宇航員中，
阿波羅先遣計劃的宇航員中，
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only seven marriages survived.
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只有七段婚姻僥幸存活。
03:17
Those iconic images of the astronauts
bouncing on the Moon
bouncing on the Moon
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那些在月球表面彈跳的代表性畫面，
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obscure the alcoholism
and depression on Earth.
and depression on Earth.
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模糊了地球上那些宇航員
酗酒和患憂鬱症的現實。
酗酒和患憂鬱症的現實。
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Thomas Merton, the Trappist monk,
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托馬斯．默頓--
特拉普派的修士，
特拉普派的修士，
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asked during the time of Apollo,
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在阿波羅計劃期間提問過，
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"What can we gain by sailing to the moon
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「如果我們不能克服
人與人之間的鴻溝，
人與人之間的鴻溝，
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if we are not able to cross the abyss
that separates us from ourselves?"
that separates us from ourselves?"
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航行到月球對我們又有何益處？」
03:43
And what can we gain by the right to marry
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如果我們無法跨越言語的刻薄
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if we are not able to cross the acrimony
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和情感的疏離，
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and emotional distance
that so often separates us from our love?
that so often separates us from our love?
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即使有了結婚的權利
我們又如何能從中獲益？
我們又如何能從中獲益？
03:54
And not just in marriage.
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不僅僅在婚姻方面。
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I have seen the most hurtful, destructive,
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我曾經見過最傷人的
最破壞性的，最慘烈的內訌
最破壞性的，最慘烈的內訌
04:04
tragic infighting in LGBT and AIDS
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發生在同性戀與愛滋病患者之間，
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and breast cancer and non-profit activism,
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發生在乳癌患者和非盈利組織之中，
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all in the name of love.
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而且這些都被冠以愛的名義。
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Thomas Merton also wrote
about wars among saints
about wars among saints
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托馬斯．默頓也曾寫過
聖人之間的戰爭，
聖人之間的戰爭，
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and that "there is a pervasive form
of contemporary violence
of contemporary violence
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並說道：「讓理想主義者
最容易屈服的當代暴力形式就是：
04:25
to which the idealist
most easily succumbs:
most easily succumbs:
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activism and overwork.
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行動主義和工作過勞。
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The frenzy of our activism
neutralizes our work for peace.
neutralizes our work for peace.
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行動主義的狂熱
抵消了我們爲和平的努力。
抵消了我們爲和平的努力。
04:38
It destroys our own
inner capacity for peace."
inner capacity for peace."
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它破壞我們内心對和平的嚮往。」
04:44
Too often our dreams become
these compartmentalized fixations
these compartmentalized fixations
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我們的夢想往往
太過定焦於未來，
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on some future
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that destroy our ability to be present
for our lives right now.
for our lives right now.
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讓我們失去了活在當下的能力。
04:56
Our dreams of a better life
for some future humanity
for some future humanity
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當我們爲下一代或
其他國家的人們
其他國家的人們
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or some other humanity in another country
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努力創造美好未來的同時，
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alienate us from the beautiful
human beings sitting next to us
human beings sitting next to us
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我們卻疏遠了
此時此刻
坐在我們身邊的美好人們。
坐在我們身邊的美好人們。
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at this very moment.
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Well, that's just the price
of progress, we say.
of progress, we say.
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好吧，我們說這就是進步的代價。
05:13
You can go to the Moon
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你可以登上月球，
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or you can have stability
in your family life.
in your family life.
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或者選擇穩定的家庭生活。
05:19
And we can't conceive of dreaming
in both dimensions at the same time.
in both dimensions at the same time.
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魚和熊掌不可兼得。
05:24
And we don't set the bar
much higher than stability
much higher than stability
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談到感情生活的時候，
我們也不敢奢望太多，
簡單穩定就好。
簡單穩定就好。
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when it comes to our emotional life.
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05:30
Which is why our technology
for talking to one another
for talking to one another
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這就是為什麼，
幫助我們與他人交流的科技
幫助我們與他人交流的科技
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has gone vertical,
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呈垂直式的線性成長，
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our ability to listen
and understand one another
and understand one another
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而我們傾聽和理解他人的能力，
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has gone nowhere.
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卻停滯不前；
05:43
Our access to information
is through the roof,
is through the roof,
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我們獲取資訊的能力突飛猛進，
05:47
our access to joy, grounded.
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但獲得快樂的能力，
卻在原地踏步。
卻在原地踏步。
05:53
But this idea, that our present
and our future are mutually exclusive,
and our future are mutually exclusive,
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但是，
認爲現在和未來不可兼得，
認爲現在和未來不可兼得，
如果要發揮成大事的的潛能，
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that to fulfill our potential for doing
we have to surrender
we have to surrender
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就要放棄實現生命本質的無窮潛力，
這個觀點是錯誤的。
這個觀點是錯誤的。
06:03
our profound potential for being,
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06:06
that the number of transistors
on a circuit can be doubled and doubled,
on a circuit can be doubled and doubled,
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電路版上的電晶體可以倍數增長，
06:10
but our capacity for compassion
and humanity and serenity and love
and humanity and serenity and love
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但是我們的同情心、人道、
平常心和愛的能力，
平常心和愛的能力，
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is somehow limited
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卻因此受限無法發揮。
06:16
is a false and suffocating choice.
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這是自掘墳墓的選擇。
06:22
Now, I'm not suggesting
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我不是陳腔濫調地建議你
06:24
simply the uninspiring idea
of more work-life balance.
of more work-life balance.
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維持工作、生活的平衡。
06:31
What good is it for me to spend
more time with my kids at home
more time with my kids at home
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如果心不在焉，
06:34
if my mind is always somewhere else
while I'm doing it?
while I'm doing it?
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那花更多的時間，
待在家陪孩子也沒有意義。
待在家陪孩子也沒有意義。
06:38
I'm not even talking about mindfulness.
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我現在也不是在講
專注覺察。
專注覺察。
06:40
Mindfulness is all of a sudden becoming
a tool for improving productivity.
a tool for improving productivity.
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不知什麽時候，專注覺察變成了
提高效率的代名詞。
提高效率的代名詞。
06:45
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
06:48
Right?
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是吧？
06:49
I'm talking about dreaming
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我現在講的是築夢，
06:52
as boldly in the dimension of our being
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就像我們勇於在
工業與科技中築夢一樣，
工業與科技中築夢一樣，
我們也要在真我的本質裡，
大膽築夢。
大膽築夢。
06:57
as we do about industry and technology.
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06:59
I'm talking about
an audacious authenticity
an audacious authenticity
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我在討論一種無畏的真情，
07:04
that allows us to cry with one another,
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一種可以讓我們相擁大哭，
07:08
a heroic humility that allows us
to remove our masks and be real.
to remove our masks and be real.
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一種可以讓我們摘下面具，
活出真實的偉大人性。
活出真實的偉大人性。
07:13
It is our inability
to be with one another,
to be with one another,
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正因為我們無法與人溝通相處，
07:16
our fear of crying with one another,
that gives rise to so many
that gives rise to so many
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我們害怕與人相擁哭泣，
因此，造成了許多
讓我們焦頭爛額的問題，
讓我們焦頭爛額的問題，
07:20
of the problems we are frantically
trying to solve in the first place,
trying to solve in the first place,
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07:24
from Congressional gridlock
to economic inhumanity.
to economic inhumanity.
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比如國會裡的僵局和經濟問題。
07:28
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
07:31
I'm talking about what Jonas Salk
called an Epoch B,
called an Epoch B,
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我談的是
喬納斯．索爾克的 B 時代，
喬納斯．索爾克的 B 時代，
07:35
a new epoch in which we become
as excited about and curious about
as excited about and curious about
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在這個時代的我們，
無論是對於科技的進步
無論是對於科技的進步
還是對於人性的發展
07:41
and scientific about
the development of our humanity
the development of our humanity
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都無比的激動、
無比的好奇、無比的理性。
無比的好奇、無比的理性。
07:45
as we are about the development
of our technology.
of our technology.
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07:49
We should not shrink from this opportunity
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我們不能因爲不理解它，
07:51
simply because
we don't really understand it.
we don't really understand it.
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而畏怯這樣的機會。
07:55
There was a time
when we didn't understand space.
when we didn't understand space.
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曾經，我們也不瞭解太空。
07:58
Or because we're more used
to technology and activism.
to technology and activism.
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或是因為我們已經
更習慣於科技和行動主義了。
更習慣於科技和行動主義了。
08:02
That is the very definition
of being stuck in a comfort zone.
of being stuck in a comfort zone.
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這只是說明了，
我們擺脫不了舒適圈。
我們擺脫不了舒適圈。
08:05
We are now very comfortable imagining
unimaginable technological achievement.
unimaginable technological achievement.
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我們現在很舒服地
幻想不可思議的科技成就。
幻想不可思議的科技成就。
08:11
In 2016, it is the dimension
of our being itself
of our being itself
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而當今 2016 年，
人類內在的真我，
人類內在的真我，
08:16
that cries out for its fair share
of our imagination.
of our imagination.
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迫切需要我們
多花點精力爲它築夢。
多花點精力爲它築夢。
08:23
Now, we're all here to dream,
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各位今天來這裡
都是要追逐夢想的，
都是要追逐夢想的，
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but maybe if we're honest about it,
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如果我們彼此真誠以待，
08:27
each of us chasing our own dream.
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我們都可以追逐自己的夢想。
08:30
You know, looking at the name tags
to see who can help me with my dream,
to see who can help me with my dream,
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當我們環顧周圍人的名牌，
看有誰可以幫我完成夢想的時候，
看有誰可以幫我完成夢想的時候，
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sometimes looking right through
one another's humanity.
one another's humanity.
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我們就有可能就忽略了
名牌背後的那個靈魂。
名牌背後的那個靈魂。
08:37
I can't be bothered with you right now.
I have an idea for saving the world.
I have an idea for saving the world.
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抱歉，我現在不想被打擾，
我正在思考如何拯救世界。
我正在思考如何拯救世界。
08:41
Right?
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對吧？
08:42
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
08:45
Years ago, once upon a time,
I had this beautiful company
I had this beautiful company
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多年以前，我有一間公司，
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that created these long journeys
for heroic civic engagement.
for heroic civic engagement.
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致力於推動公民參與社區活動。
08:54
And we had this mantra:
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我們的宗旨是：
08:56
"Human. Kind. Be Both."
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人性與仁慈，二者兼備。
09:01
And we encouraged people to experiment
outrageously with kindness.
outrageously with kindness.
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我們鼓勵大家積極行善，
09:07
Like, "Go help everybody
set up their tents."
set up their tents."
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比如，「幫助其他人搭帳篷。」
09:11
And there were a lot of tents.
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然後很多帳篷就搭起來了。
09:13
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
09:16
"Go buy everybody Popsicles."
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比如，「給每個人買一枝冰棒。」
09:17
"Go help people fix their flat tires
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再比如，「幫助需要的人補胎，
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even though you know
the dinner line is going to get longer."
the dinner line is going to get longer."
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哪怕要花更多時間排隊等晚餐。」
09:22
And people really took us up on this,
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人們還真的把我們的
要求付諸行動。
要求付諸行動。
09:25
so much so that if you got
a flat tire on the AIDS ride,
a flat tire on the AIDS ride,
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以至於如果
你在愛滋宣傳活動上車胎爆了，
你在愛滋宣傳活動上車胎爆了，
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you had trouble fixing it, because there
were so many people there asking you
were so many people there asking you
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你很難去修好它，
因為太多的人在詢問你
因為太多的人在詢問你
09:31
if you needed help.
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是否需要幫忙。
09:33
For a few days,
for tens of thousands of people,
for tens of thousands of people,
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雖然活動只有幾天，
09:37
we created these worlds
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但我們爲數萬名參與者，
09:39
that everybody said were the way
they wish the world could always be.
they wish the world could always be.
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創造了他們理想中的烏托邦。
09:46
What if we experimented
with creating that kind of world
with creating that kind of world
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如果在接下來的幾天中，
我們進行打造烏托邦的實驗，
我們進行打造烏托邦的實驗，
09:50
these next few days?
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結果會是如何呢？
09:54
And instead of going up to someone
and asking them, "What do you do?"
and asking them, "What do you do?"
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與其走到人們面前問道:
「你是做什麽的？」
「你是做什麽的？」
09:59
ask them, "So what are your dreams?"
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何不問問他們 :
「你的夢想是什麽？」
「你的夢想是什麽？」
10:02
or "What are your broken dreams?"
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或者 :「你未能實現的夢想是什麽？」
10:05
You know, "TED."
Tend to Each other's Dreams.
Tend to Each other's Dreams.
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你知道 TED 代表什麽嗎？
關心每一個人的夢想。
關心每一個人的夢想。
10:10
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
10:15
Maybe it's "I want to stay sober"
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也許夢想是「我想要戒酒」
10:18
or "I want to build
a tree house with my kid."
a tree house with my kid."
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或是「我想要爲我的孩子搭一間樹屋」
與其想認識大家
都想結交的有名人士，
都想結交的有名人士，
10:21
You know, instead of going up
to the person everybody wants to meet,
to the person everybody wants to meet,
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10:24
go up to the person who is all alone
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何不走向那些被冷落的人，
10:26
and ask them if they want
to grab a cup of coffee.
to grab a cup of coffee.
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問問他們是否想喝杯咖啡。
10:30
I think what we fear most
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我想我們最害怕的是
10:33
is that we will be denied the opportunity
to fulfill our true potential,
to fulfill our true potential,
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我們沒有機會去發揮
真正的潛力，
真正的潛力，
害怕對生來就要逐夢的我們，
10:37
that we are born to dream
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10:40
and we might die
without ever having the chance.
without ever having the chance.
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在走到生命的盡頭時，
卻沒有機會實現我們的夢想。
卻沒有機會實現我們的夢想。
想像住在一個世界裡，
10:45
Imagine living in a world
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where we simply recognize
that deep, existential fear in one another
that deep, existential fear in one another
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我們能理解彼此的恐懼，
10:53
and love one another boldly
because we know
because we know
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並彼此勇敢地相愛，
因爲我們知道
因爲我們知道
10:56
that to be human
is to live with that fear.
is to live with that fear.
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要得到人生的真諦，
必須學會與這種恐懼共存。
必須學會與這種恐懼共存。
11:01
It's time for us to dream
in multiple dimensions simultaneously,
in multiple dimensions simultaneously,
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是時候讓我們同時
從不同的角度一起夢想了，
從不同的角度一起夢想了，
11:08
and somewhere that transcends
all of the wondrous things
all of the wondrous things
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在那個超越我們所能完成
美好事物的地方，
美好事物的地方，
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we can and will and must do
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在那個超乎想像的地方，
讓我們成就
所有不可思議的夢想。
所有不可思議的夢想。
11:16
lies the domain of all
the unbelievable things we could be.
the unbelievable things we could be.
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11:23
It's time we set foot into that dimension
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是時候讓我們
朝那新的方向去探索，
朝那新的方向去探索，
11:27
and came out about the fact
that we have dreams there, too.
that we have dreams there, too.
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並在那裏
開始實現我們的夢想。
開始實現我們的夢想。
11:33
If the Moon could dream,
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如果月亮能夢想，
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I think that would be its dream for us.
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我想它的夢想會跟我們一樣。
11:43
It's an honor to be with you.
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很榮幸能跟大家共聚一堂。
11:45
Thank you very much.
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非常感謝。
11:47
(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Dan Pallotta - Author, speaker, reformerWe dream boldly in the dimension of our doing, but set the bar no higher than stability in our emotional lives. It’s time to dream in multiple dimensions at the same time, says AIDSRide Founder Dan Pallotta. He aims to transform the way society thinks about giving, and being.
Why you should listen
"The nonprofit sector is critical to our dream of changing the world. Yet there is no greater injustice than the double standard that exists between the for-profit and nonprofit sectors. One gets to feast on marketing, risk-taking, capital and financial incentive, the other is sentenced to begging,” Dan Pallotta says in discussing his book Charity Case. This economic starvation of our nonprofits is why he believes we are not moving the needle on great social problems. “My goal … is to fundamentally transform the way the public thinks about charity within 10 years.”
Pallotta is best known for creating the multi-day charitable event industry, and a new generation of philanthropists with the AIDS Rides and Breast Cancer 3-Day events, which raised $582 million in nine years. He is president of Advertising for Humanity, which helps foundations and philanthropists transform the growth potential of their favorite grantees. He is also the founder and President of the Charity Defense Council .
Dan Pallotta | Speaker | TED.com