Roman Mars: Why city flags may be the worst-designed thing you've never noticed
Roman Mars: Zašto bi zastave gradova mogle biti najgore dizajnirane stvari koje ste ikada videli
With his show 99% Invisible, Roman Mars discovered new ways to jolt public radio out of its old paradigms, while at the same time spinning riveting tales of design. Full bio
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orijentaciji u prostoru i fontovima.
with the design that they care about
do kojih im je stalo
to all forms of design.
na sve oblike dizajna.
with design intent in mind,
sa svrhom dizajna na umu,
naporno radili
the definition of design:
on your flag, Canada.
"I don't care about flags,"
about flags, and trust me,
o zastavama i, verujte mi,
that works on our emotions.
što utiče na naša osećanja.
as flags this year,
moje Božićne poklone u zastave,
koja je lepo obučena u zastavu Škotske.
and sure enough,
na internet i, naravno,
someone left a comment that said,
neko je ostavio komentar koji kaže:
and shove it up your ass." (Laughter)
krst Svetog Endrua
about flags, you know?
po pitanju zastava, zar ne?
the design of flags,
what makes a bad flag,
šta čini lošu zastavu,
the design of almost anything.
of my radio show,
to reconstruct it here on stage,
i rekonstruisaću je ovde na bini,
glas ili muziku,
Ja sam Roman Mars.
principles of flag design.
principa dizajna zastava.
American Vexillological Association.
veksilološkom udruženju.
is the study of flags.
that makes it sound weird.
da ta reč zvuči čudno.
keep it simple.
that a child can draw it from memory.
da je dete može nacrtati po sećanju.
had their own flags.
da gradovi imaju zastave.
do have flags.
That's Ted Kaye, by the way.
RM: He's a flag expert.
fenomenalan je momak.
akademskog žurnala o studijama zastava
a scholarly journal on flag studies,
with the Portland Flag Association
udruženjem zastava
Vexillological Association.
veksilološkim udruženjem.
the book on flag design.
o dizajnu zastava.
It's about 16 pages.
ima oko 16 strana.
"Good Flag, Bad Flag:
Kako dizajnirati sjajnu zastavu“.
koju sam otkrio u Čikagu
I discovered in Chicago
dve horizontalne bele štrafte
down the middle.
crvene zvezde na sredini.
use meaningful symbolism.
značajne simbole.
the water, the river and the lake.
vodu, reku i jezero.
colors or pattern
da prenesu ono što ona simbolizuje.
significant events in Chicago's history.
važne događaje iz istorije Čikaga.
on the future site of Chicago,
na budućem mestu osnivanja Čikaga,
which everyone remembers
zbog zabavnog parka „Beli grad“
koje se uopšte niko ne seća.
use two to three basic colors.
dve-tri osnovne boje.
is to use two to three colors
je da se koriste dve do tri boje
plava, zelena, žuta i crna.
green, yellow and black.
has complete buy-in
ima potpunu podršku
at least one store on every block
makar jedna prodavnica u svakom bloku
some sort of Chicago flag paraphernalia.
koja prodaje stvari sa zastavom Čikaga.
from Chicago magazine.
I went to get a haircut,
u kojoj berber drži svoj pribor
that the barber kept all his tools in,
a Chicago flag on the wall behind me.
zastavu Čikaga na zidu iza sebe.
a Chicago flag badge on his backpack.
sa zastavom Čikaga na rancu.
i može se kombinovati.
show up in all kinds of places.
na raznoraznim mestima.
je bila sa zvezdom Čikaga.
of Chicago pride.
čikaškog ponosa.
or a firefighter dies in Chicago,
ili vatrogasac umre u Čikagu,
United States on his casket.
nije zastava Sjedinjenih Država.
into the civic imagery of Chicago.
u građanski simbolizam Čikaga.
love Chicago and therefore love the flag.
i da zato vole zastavu.
zato što je zastava toliko dobra.
i građanskog ponosa.
between great symbolism and civic pride.
u San Francisko 2008. godine,
to San Francisco in 2008,
u prethodnih osam godina
that a child can draw it from memory.
da je dete može nacrtati po sećanju.
San Franciska je feniks
of the San Francisco flag is a phoenix
rising from the ashes
iz pedesetih godina 19. veka.
to both be too crude
da bude i suviše jednostavan
at the same time,
da postignete, ne biste uspeli,
puts that element in the plus column.
taj elemenat u kolonu pozitivnih stvari.
the background is mostly white,
gold border around it.
dizajnerski element.
design element.
(Laughter) --
no lettering or seals.
bez natpisa ili pečata.
natpise bilo kakve vrste.
there's a motto on a ribbon
"Gold in peace, iron in war,"
„Zlato u miru, gvožđe u ratu“
„San Franscisko“.
onoga što predstavljate na vašoj zastavi,
doesn't say "USA" across the front.
Država ne piše „SAD“.
they tend to behave.
se obično pristojno ponašaju.
and Turkey and Israel
Južnoj Africi, Turskoj, Izraelu,
of really great country flags,
zastava zemalja,
because the stakes are high.
jer je ulog veliki.
i regiona su druga priča.
that good design
ponekad je zaista tako,
sometimes it is, actually,
Severno-američkog veksilološkog udruženja.
flag design principles.
basic principles of flag design.
dizajna zastava.
TK: Keep it simple.
TK: Prvo - neka bude jednostavna.
TK: Use meaningful symbolism.
TK: Koristite značajne simbole.
TK: Use two to three basic colors.
TK: Koristite 2-3 osnovne boje.
TK: No lettering or seals.
TK: Bez natpisa ili pečata.
writing of any kind.
TK: Ne mogu se pročitati sa daljine.
read that at a distance.
TK: And be distinctive.
TK: Budite upečatljivi.
se uglavnom pridržavaju ovih principa.
to stick to these principles.
most country flags are okay.
većina zastava država je okej.
ovih principa bilo kojem dizajneru,
to any designer of almost anything,
simplicity, deep meaning,
jednostavnost, duboko značenje,
u izboru boja, jedinstvenost,
thoughtful about colors,
writing you can't read --
koji se ne može pročitati -
are rarely invoked
retko poštuju principe dobrog dizajna.
najveći problem četvrti princip.
seems to be that fourth one.
da se suzdržimo od stavljanja imena
with tiny writing on them.
sa majušnim tekstom na naše zastave.
to be on pieces of paper
na povetarcu na 30 metara udaljenosti.
flapping in the breeze.
what city they go to,
očigledno su to popravili.
of the municipal seal
a lesson for how to do things right.
kako da stvari radimo ispravno.
coat of arms of Amsterdam.
the whole coat of arms
"Amsterdam" below it,
i ispod napišu „Amsterdam“,
of the escutcheon, the shield,
badass city flag in the world.
gradsku zastavu na svetu.
are found throughout Amsterdam,
širom Amsterdama,
are particularly painful
in vexillological history.
u istoriji veksilologije.
i sakupio brdo prijava
by the name of Fred Steffan
što je sada zastava Milvokija.
representing industry,
odaje počast industriji piva.
iz Milvokija, želi da je promeni.
from Milwaukee, wants to change it.
the Milwaukee flag over the top,
vezano za zastavu Milvokija,
sa samoparodijom,
battle flag of the Milwaukee regiment.
puka Milvokija iz Građanskog rata.
elemenat na zastavi
that much more ridiculous,
within the Milwaukee flag.
unutar zastave Milvokija.
of this flag, though,
najviše obeshrabruje činjenica
two major redesign contests.
konkursa za ponovno dizajniranje.
entries were received.
of the Milwaukee Arts Board
odbora Milvokija su odlučili
were worthy of flying over the city.
dostojna da se vijori iznad grada.
to change that thing! (Laughter)
da promene tu stvar.
to make you think
da vas natera da pomislite
jednostavno ne idu jedno uz drugo.
će još jednom probati
to try one more time
zaslužuje sjajnu zastavu.
to reveal his design yet.
da otkrije svoj dizajn.
proposing one of these things
morate da zainteresujete ljude
kao sjajne zastave Čikaga ili Vašingtona,
which also has a great flag,
inch rectangle on a piece of paper.
dimenzija 2,5 sa 4 centimetara
u taj majušni pravougaonik.
within that tiny rectangle.
na stubu udaljenom 30 metara
2,5 sa 4 centimetara
and simple the design can be
i lako dizajniranje može biti
vratimo se u San Francisko.
that in every bad flag
čuči dobra zastava koja pokušava da izađe.
(Laughter)
San Francisco's flag a good flag
napravimo dobru zastavu
jer se ne može pročitati iz daljine.
tako da postane deo zastave.
na sredini zastave.
that's got to go.
or stylize the phoenix.
ili stilizovao ovog feniksa.
sa velikim krilima
was designed by Frank Chimero
je dizajnirao Frenk Kamero
da je u potpunosti bio nesputan
if we was completely unfettered
su čuli da se žalim na loše zastave.
flags of the world more beautiful,
zastave širom sveta,
upon themselves
and look into the feasibility
i da ispitaju mogućnost
i ako vam se dopada,
a design rule or two.
zastavu svoga grada,
da pokušate to da promenite.
to try to change that.
ne samo simbol tog grada kao mesta,
kako taj grad gleda na sam dizajn,
considers design itself,
is becoming more design-aware.
postaje zainteresovanije za dizajn.
na najvišem nivou do sada.
is at an all-time high.
as an indicator of how a city
može biti pokazatelj
dizajn svih svojih sistema:
than worry about a city flag,"
nego da brinemo o zastavi grada“,
ispod kojeg bi se ljudi okupili
for people to rally under
what a good city flag can do
zastava može da uradi u slučaju Čikaga.
and civic pride
je da su naše vlasništvo.
of the community.
prilagođavati i moćne su.
and graphical imagery
i grafičku simboliku
loše zastave koje ne koristimo,
bad flags we don't use,
and tourism boards.
i turističkim udruženjima.
and break our hearts.
i slomiti nam srca.
don't really care about sports.
zaista nije stalo do sporta.
can just be cheesy.
mogu biti baš jeftino urađene.
a city to its people
grad svojim ljudima
can be as inspiring as Hong Kong
mogu biti inspirativne
Portlanda ili Trondhejma,
Milvokija i Sidar Rapidsa
about Pocatello, Idaho,
po pitanju Pokatela u Ajdahu,
Vexillological Association
veksilološko udruženje smatra
u Severnoj Americi.
symbol on it, people. (Laughter)
and Keegan DeWitt (@keegandewitt)"]
i Kigan Devit (@keegandewitt)]
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Roman Mars - Digital storytellerWith his show 99% Invisible, Roman Mars discovered new ways to jolt public radio out of its old paradigms, while at the same time spinning riveting tales of design.
Why you should listen
From its humble beginnings in his home, Roman Mars’ podcast and radio show 99% Invisible accumulated a massive following to become a broadcast and internet phenomenon. Its premise -- 10- to 20-minute episodes focused on a single compelling story -- subverts public radio’s reliance on long, strictly formatted shows, and has garnered national praise.
Over a series of three runaway crowdsourced fundraising campaigns, 99% Invisible generated over $1.2 million, making Mars the most successful crowdfunded journalist in Kickstarter history.
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