ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Wayne McGregor - Dancer and Choreographer
Wayne McGregor and his dancers explore the uncharted territory where mind and movement intersect.

Why you should listen

Wayne McGregor is a man in perpetual motion. When not incubating new approaches to choreography with his company, Random Dance, he creates works for ballet, theatre and opera companies worldwide--including the Royal Ballet in London, where he's choreographer in residence, and contemporary dance powerhouse Sadler's Wells. In ongoing collaborations with psychologists, neuroscientists and cognitive scientists, Random dancers are helping researchers measure and analyze how the brain works in the creative process. Whatʼs emerged so far is that we can, and do, think with our bodies.

McGregor is no stranger to pop culture: he's designed movement for Thom Yorke of Radiohead and for Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. This spring he collaborated with DJ Mark Ronson on Carbon Life, a piece for the Royal Ballet with vocals from Boy George. And he's creating a new dance piece for thousands of dancers in Londonʼs Trafalgar Square on Saturday, July 14.

More profile about the speaker
Wayne McGregor | Speaker | TED.com
TEDGlobal 2012

Wayne McGregor: A choreographer's creative process in real time

偉恩.麥桂葛: 編舞家的即時創作過程

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我們天天使用身體,然而幾乎沒有人像麥桂葛這樣看待我們的身體。他示範編舞家如何向觀眾傳達想法。在 TEDGlobal 舞台上,和兩位舞者在即時且未預先編排的情況下,共同合作建立舞句。
- Dancer and Choreographer
Wayne McGregor and his dancers explore the uncharted territory where mind and movement intersect. Full bio

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As you might威力 imagine想像, I'm absolutely絕對 passionate多情
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如你所想的,我對舞蹈很有熱情。
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about dance舞蹈. I'm passionate多情 about making製造 it,
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我熱衷創作舞蹈、
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about watching觀看 it, about encouraging鼓舞人心的 others其他
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熱衷欣賞舞蹈,
也熱衷鼓勵別人參與其中。
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to participate參加 in it,
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我對創造力也很有熱情。
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and I'm also really passionate多情 about creativity創造力.
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Creativity創造力 for me is something that's absolutely絕對 critical危急,
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對我來說,創造力是至關重要的。
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and I think it's something that you can teach.
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我認為創造力是可以教的,
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I think the technicitiestechnicities of creativity創造力 can be taught
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我認為創造力技巧是可以傳授、分享的。
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and shared共享, and I think you can find out things
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我認為你可以找到專屬自己的身體符號、
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about your own擁有 personal個人 physical物理 signature簽名,
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your own擁有 cognitive認知 habits習慣, and use that as
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認知習慣,
並以此為出發點,好好地「胡鬧」一番。
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a point of departure離開 to misbehave行為不端 beautifully精美.
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I was born天生 in the 1970s, and John約翰 Travolta特拉沃爾塔 was big
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我出生於 1970 年代,
當時約翰屈伏塔可是個大人物,
像是《火爆浪子》、《週六夜瘋狂》。
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in those days: "Grease潤滑脂," "Saturday星期六 Night Fever發熱,"
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and he provided提供 a fantastic奇妙 kind of male role角色 model模型 for me
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他提供了很棒的男性榜樣,讓我開始跳舞。
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to start開始 dancing跳舞. My parents父母 were very up for me going.
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我的父母總是讓我做決定,
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They absolutely絕對 encouraged鼓勵 me to take risks風險, to go,
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他們全力地鼓勵我出發去冒險、
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to try, to try. I had an opportunity機會, an access訪問
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去嘗試,再嘗試。
過去我有個機會在當地的舞蹈教室上課,
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to a local本地 dance舞蹈 studio工作室, and I had an enlightened開明 teacher老師
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且我的老師很有啟發性。
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who allowed允許 me to make up my own擁有 and invent發明
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她允許我自己獨立創編舞蹈。
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my own擁有 dances舞蹈, so what she did was let me make up
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她所做的是
讓我自己編國標和拉丁舞,
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my own擁有 ballroom舞廳 and Latin拉丁 American美國 dances舞蹈 to teach
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教給我的同儕。
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to my peers同行.
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And that was the very first time that I found發現 an opportunity機會
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那是我第一次有機會
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to feel that I was able能夠 to express表現 my own擁有 voice語音,
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感受到我可以表達自己的心聲。
這激勵了我日後成為一位編舞者。
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and that's what's fueled燃料 me, then, to become成為 a choreographer編舞.
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I feel like I've got something to say and something to share分享.
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我覺得我有東西要說,有東西要分享。
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And I guess猜測 what's interesting有趣 is, is that I am now obsessed痴迷
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我想有趣的地方在於,
現在我對肢體的技巧非常著迷。
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with the technology技術 of the body身體.
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I think it's the most technologically技術 literate識字 thing that we have,
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我認為這是我們最擅長的溝通傳達技巧。
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and I'm absolutely絕對 obsessed痴迷 with finding發現 a way
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我完全著迷於
尋找一種透過肢體
向觀眾表達理念的方式,
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of communicating通信 ideas思路 through通過 the body身體 to audiences觀眾
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that might威力 move移動 them, touch觸摸 them,
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來感動他們、觸動他們的心、
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help them think differently不同 about things.
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幫助他們用不同角度思考。
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So for me, choreography編舞 is very much a process處理
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所以對我來說,
編舞是一種物理性思考。
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of physical物理 thinking思維. It's very much in mind心神,
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這過程存在於腦中,
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as well as in body身體, and it's a collaborative共同 process處理.
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也存在於身體,是一種合作式的過程。
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It's something that I have to do with other people.
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是必須和別人合作完成的事。
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You know, it's a distributed分散式 cognitive認知 process處理 in a way.
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某種程度上說,是種分散的認知過程。
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I work often經常 with designers設計師 and visual視覺 artists藝術家,
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我常和設計師和視覺藝術家一起工作,
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obviously明顯 dancers舞者 and other choreographers編舞,
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當然還有舞者和其他的編舞家,
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but also, more and more, with economists經濟學家,
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但現在,我有更多的機會是和經濟學家、
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anthropologists人類學家, neuroscientists神經學家, cognitive認知 scientists科學家們,
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人類學家、神經學家,認知科學家
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people really who come from very different不同 domains of
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和許多來自不同領域的專家一起合作。
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expertise專門知識, where they bring帶來 their intelligence情報 to bear
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他們把不同領域的智慧
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on a different不同 kind of creative創作的 process處理.
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運用在不同的創新過程。
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What I thought we would do today今天 a little bit is
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而今天我們要做的是稍稍探索一下
物理性思考這個想法。
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explore探索 this idea理念 of physical物理 thinking思維,
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and we're all experts專家 in physical物理 thinking思維.
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我們都是物理性思考的專家,
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Yeah, you all have a body身體, right?
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我們都有軀體,對吧?
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And we all know what that body身體 is like in the real真實 world世界,
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我們都知道身體在現實世界是怎樣的,
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so one of the aspects方面 of physical物理 thinking思維
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物理性思考的其中一個面向
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that we think about a lot is this notion概念 of proprioception本體,
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就是「本體感受」這概念,
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the sense of my own擁有 body身體 in the space空間 in the real真實 world世界.
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就是自己的身體在真實空間中的感覺。
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So, we all understand理解 what it feels感覺 like to know
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我們都了解
當你敞開雙臂,
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where the ends結束 of your fingers手指 are
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when you hold保持 out your arms武器, yeah?
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知道自己手指在哪的感覺。
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You absolutely絕對 know that when you're going to grab a cup杯子,
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你絕對知道你什麼時候要拿杯子、
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or that cup杯子 moves移動 and you have to renavigaterenavigate it.
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或要把移動了的杯子重新擺好。
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So we're experts專家 in physical物理 thinking思維 already已經.
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我們早已是物理性思維的專家,
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We just don't think about our bodies身體 very much.
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我們只是不常意識到我們的身體。
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We only think about them when they go wrong錯誤, so, when
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我們只有在身體出問題時才想到,
比如手骨折或是心臟病發的時候,
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there's a broken破碎 arm, or when you have a heart attack攻擊,
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then you become成為 really very aware知道的 of your bodies身體.
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你才會真正意識到你的身體。
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But how is it that we can start開始 to think about using運用
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但我們如何將編舞的思維、
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choreographic舞蹈 thinking思維, kinesthetic動覺 intelligence情報, to arm
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動覺智能
運用在一般性的思考當中呢?
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the ways方法 in which哪一個 we think about things more generally通常?
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What I thought I'd do is, I'd make a TEDTED premiere首映.
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我接下要做的是一場 TED 首演。
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I'm not sure if this is going to be good or not.
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我不知道這會不會成功,
就姑且一試。
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I'll just be doing it.
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I thought what I'd do is, I'd use three versions版本
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我要做的是,
用三種物理性思維模式來做些事情。
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of physical物理 thinking思維 to make something.
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03:27
I want to introduce介紹 you. This is Paolo保羅. This is Catarina聖卡塔琳娜.
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向您介紹,這是保歐羅,這是卡特琳娜。
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(Applause掌聲)
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(掌聲)
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They have no idea理念 what we're going to do.
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他們完全不知道接下來要做什麼。
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So this is not the type類型 of choreography編舞 where
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這不像一般的編舞,
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I already已經 have in mind心神 what I'm going to make,
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通常我會先計畫好要做什麼,
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where I've fixed固定 the routine常規 in my head
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並先在腦中設計一套固定舞步
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and I'm just going to teach it to them,
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再教給他們,
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and these so-called所謂 empty vessels船隻 are just going to learn學習 it.
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這些所謂的「白紙」只要學習就好,
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That's not the methodology方法 at all that we work with.
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這完全不是我們要用的方法。
整體的重點是他們如何
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But what's important重要 about it is how it is that they're
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grasping information信息, how they're taking服用 information信息,
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掌握資訊,接受資訊,
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how they're using運用 it, and how they're thinking思維 with it.
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使用資訊,及思考這些資訊。
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I'm going to start開始 really, really simply只是.
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我將簡單地開始。
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Usually平時, dance舞蹈 has a stimulus刺激物 or stimuli刺激, and I thought
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通常舞蹈需要一個或多個刺激元素。
我要用簡單的東西,
這個 TED 標誌,我們都能看到它,
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I'd take something simple簡單, TEDTED logo商標, we can all see it,
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it's quite相當 easy簡單 to work with, and I'm going to do something
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很容易利用,而我要做的也很簡單。
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very simply只是, where you take one idea理念 from a body身體,
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我們先從某軀體來獲得一個想法,
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and it happens發生 to be my body身體, and translate翻譯 that
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這身體剛好是我的身體,然後把那個想法
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into somebody else's別人的 body身體,
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轉移到別人身上,
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so it's a direct直接 transfer轉讓, transformation轉型 of energy能源.
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這是一種直接轉移、是能量的轉換。
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And I'm going to imagine想像 this, you can do this too if you like,
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我將如此想像,如果您願意也可以照著做。
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that I'm going to just take the letter "T" and I'm going
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我只用字母"T",
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to imagine想像 it in mind心神, and I'm going to place地點 that outside in
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先在心中想像它,
然後把它往外置於現實世界,
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the real真實 world世界. So I absolutely絕對 see a letter "T" in front面前 of me.
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所以我絕對有看到一個字母"T"在我前面。
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Yeah? It's absolutely絕對 there.
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有吧?它絕對在那,
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I can absolutely絕對 walk步行 around it when I see it, yeah?
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當我看到它,我能繞著它走,對吧?
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It has a kind of a grammar語法. I know what I'm going to do
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它有某種語法,我知道如何使用它,
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with it, and I can start開始 to describe描述 it, so I can describe描述 it
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所以我可以開始描述它,
我可以簡單描述它,
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very simply只是. I can describe描述 it in my arms武器, right?
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我可以用我的手臂描述它,
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So all I did was take my hand and then I move移動 my hand.
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所以我做的是用我的手,
然後移動我的手。
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I can describe描述 it, whoa, in my head, you know? Whoa.
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我可以描述它,用我的頭,你知道嗎?
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Okay. I can do also my shoulder. Yeah?
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也可用我的肩,瞧?
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It gives me something to do, something to work towards.
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它讓我有事可做,讓我發揮作用。
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If I were to take that letter "T" and flatten弄平 it down
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要是我把字母"T"平放在地,
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on the floor地板, here, maybe just off the floor地板,
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這裡,也許就是這裡,
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all of a sudden突然 I could do maybe something with my knee膝蓋,
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我或許可以突然用我的膝蓋,
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yeah? Whoa. So If I put the knee膝蓋 and the arms武器 together一起,
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如果我膝蓋和手臂並用,
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I've got something physical物理, yeah? And I can start開始 to build建立 something.
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就得到某種有形的東西,開始建立某物。
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So what I'm going to do just for one and a half minutes分鐘 or so
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接下來我要做的大約一分半鐘左右,
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is I'm going to take that concept概念, I'm going to make something,
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我要用這概念要做點什麼。
05:10
and the dancers舞者 behind背後 me are going to interpret it,
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我身後的舞者將詮釋這概念,
他們要快速理解,並採取自己的觀點。
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they're going to snapshot快照 it, they're going to take
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aspects方面 of it, and it's almost幾乎 like I'm offloading卸載 memory記憶
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有點像我在卸載記憶,
05:18
and they're holding保持 onto memory記憶? Yeah?
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而他們在承接記憶,可以嗎?
05:20
And we'll see what we come up with.
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我們來看可迸出怎樣的火花。
05:21
So just have a little watch about how they're, how they're
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我們可以稍微看一下他們是如何
05:23
accessing訪問 this and what they're doing,
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存取記憶和怎麼做。
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and I'm just going to take this letter "T," the letter "E,"
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我將用字母"T"、"E"
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and the letter "D," to make something. Okay. Here goes.
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和"D"做點什麼。好吧。就是這樣。
05:30
So I have to get myself in the zone. Right.
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我要讓自己進入狀態,可以嗎?
05:47
It's a bit of a cross交叉 of my arm.
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一些手臂的交叉。
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So all I'm doing is exploring探索 this space空間 of "T"
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我所做的是探討"T"的空間,
06:00
and flashing閃爍 through通過 it with some action行動.
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並透過行動來反射這空間。
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I'm not remembering記憶 what I'm doing.
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我不記得我做了什麼。
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I'm just working加工 on my task任務. My task任務 is this "T."
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我只是在做我的任務,而任務是"T"。
06:11
Going to watch it from the side, whoa.
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我要從旁邊來看,哇。
06:16
Strike罷工 moment時刻.
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攻擊時刻。
06:18
That's it.
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就是這樣。
06:23
So we're starting開始 to build建立 a phrase短語.
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所以我們開始建立一個舞句。
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So what they're doing, let's see, something like that,
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我們來看看他們做了什麼。
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so what they're doing is grasping aspects方面 of that movement運動
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他們所做的是去理解動作的觀點,
06:33
and they're generating發電 it into a phrase短語.
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然後將它創造成一個舞句。
06:35
You can see the speed速度 is extremely非常 quick, yeah?
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您可以看到的速度非常快,是吧?
06:37
I'm not asking them to copy複製 exactly究竟.
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我並非要求他們要完全複製,
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They're using運用 the information信息 that they receive接收
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他們要用收到的資訊
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to generate生成 the beginnings開始 of a phrase短語.
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產成一個舞句的開端。
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I can watch that and that can tell me something
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我可以觀察並得知
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about how it is that they're moving移動.
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舞者們如何移動。
06:49
Yeah, they're super quick, right?
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他們動作超級快,對吧?
06:53
So I've taken採取 this aspect方面 of TEDTED and translated翻譯 it
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我詮釋 TED 的觀點,
並將它轉化成有形的事物。
06:56
into something that's physical物理.
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Some dancers舞者, when they're watching觀看 action行動,
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有些舞者觀察動作時
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take the overall總體 shape形狀, the arc of the movement運動,
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採用整體形式,即移動的弧線、
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the kinetic動能 sense of the movement運動,
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運動知覺的移動,
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and use that for memory記憶.
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並以此作為記憶。
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Some work very much in specific具體 detail詳情.
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有些則著重在具體細節,
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They start開始 with small little units單位 and build建立 it up.
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從小單位開始然後慢慢建立。
07:16
Okay, you've got something? One more thing.
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好的,都理解了嗎?再來。
07:33
So they're solving this problem問題 for me,
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他們正在為我解決這個問題。
07:37
having a little --
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有一點──
07:40
They're constructing建設 that phrase短語.
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他們正在建構這舞句,
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They have something and they're going to hold保持 on to it,
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他們有些想法要緊緊抓住。
07:44
yeah? One way of making製造.
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可以嗎?一種創作方法。
07:46
That's going to be my beginning開始 in this world世界 premiere首映.
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這將是我在世界首演的開端。
07:48
Okay. From there I'm going to do a very different不同 thing.
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好,現在我要來點不一樣的。
07:50
So basically基本上 I'm going to make a duet雙人.
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簡單來說,我要來個雙人舞。
07:53
I want you to think about them as architectural建築的 objects對象,
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我要你們把舞者看成結構物體,
07:56
so what they are, are just pure lines.
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他們只是純粹的線條,
07:59
They're no longer people, just pure lines, and I'm going
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不再是人,只是線條,然後我會
08:01
to work with them almost幾乎 as objects對象 to think with, yeah?
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把他們視為物體來合作,可以嗎?
我現在想
08:05
So what I'm thinking思維 about is taking服用
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當我移動時,做幾個身體的延展,
08:08
a few少數 physical物理 extensions擴展 from the body身體 as I move移動, and
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08:12
I move移動 them, and I do that by suggesting提示 things to them:
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我移動的同時也提示他們一些事情,
08:14
If, then; if, then. Okay, so here we go.
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如果,就這樣 ;如果,就那樣。開始吧。
08:17
Just grab this arm.
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抓住這個手臂,
08:18
Can you place地點 that down into the floor地板?
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你可以往下放到地上嗎?
08:21
Yeah, down to the floor地板. Can you go underneath?
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對,到地上。可以鑽到底下嗎?
08:24
Yeah. Cat, can you put leg over that side? Yeah.
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卡特,可以把腿跨到這邊嗎?
08:27
Can you rotate迴轉?
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你可以旋轉嗎?
08:29
WhoomWhoom, just go back to the beginning開始.
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再從頭開始。
08:30
Here we go, ready準備? And ... bam哄騙, bake ... (clicks點擊 metronome節拍器)
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開始囉,準備好嗎?
08:36
Great. Okay, from there, you're both getting得到 up.
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很好。你們兩位都站起來。
08:38
You're both getting得到 up. Here we go. Good, now? Them.
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都起身。他們很棒吧?
(掌聲)
08:42
(Applause掌聲)
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So from there, from there, we're both getting得到 up,
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從那裡,從那裡,我們都起身,
08:46
we're both getting得到 up, going in this direction方向,
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都起身往這邊。
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going underneath. Whoa, whoa, underneath.
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往下,往下,
08:50
Whoa, underneath, whoo-um喔-UM. Yeah? Underneath. Jump.
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往下,可以嗎?往下。往前跳。
08:54
Underneath. Jump. Paolo保羅, kick. Don't care關心 where. Kick.
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往下、往前跳。保歐羅,踢。儘管踢。
08:58
Kick, replace更換, change更改 a leg. Kick, replace更換, change更改 the leg.
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踢、站好、換腿。踢、站好、換腿。
09:01
Yeah? Okay? Cat, almost幾乎 get his head. Almost幾乎 get his head.
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可以嗎?卡特,幾乎碰到他的頭。
幾乎碰到他的頭。
09:05
WhoaaWhoaa. Just after it, maybe. WhoaaWhoaa, whaaaywhaaay, ooh.
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也許再後面些,
09:10
Grab her waist腰部, come up back into her first, whoomwhoom, spin,
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扶她的腰部,起身,旋轉,
09:14
turn her, whoo-aa喔-AA. (Snaps捕捉) Great.
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把她轉身,很好。
09:16
Okay, let's have a little go from the beginning開始 of that.
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好,讓我們從頭開始。
09:18
Just, let me slow down here. Fancy幻想 having eight -- (Laughter笑聲)
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讓我稍微慢下來。想像有八...(笑聲)
09:24
Fancy幻想 having eight hours小時 with me in a day.
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一天有八小時這些想像都在我腦海中,
09:26
So, maybe too much. So, here we go, ready準備, and -- (Clicks點擊 metronome節拍器)
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也許太多了。準備好,開始。
(打拍子)
09:31
(Clicks點擊 metronome節拍器)
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09:39
Nice尼斯, good job工作. Yeah? Okay. (Applause掌聲)
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很好,做得好。是吧?(掌聲)
09:42
Okay, not bad. (Applause掌聲) A little bit more?
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好,還不錯。(掌聲)再來一些?
09:45
Yeah. Just a little bit more, here we go, from that place地點.
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好,再來一些。我們從這開始。
09:47
Separate分離. Face面對 the front面前. Separate分離. Face面對 the front面前.
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分開,面對前面。分開,面對前面。
09:50
Imagine想像 that there's a circle in front面前 of you, yeah?
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想像有個圈圈在你前面
09:52
Avoid避免 it. Avoid避免 it. WhoomWhoom. Kick it out of the way.
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繞過它,繞過它,把它踢出去,
09:57
Kick it out of the way. Throw it into the audience聽眾. WhoomWhoom.
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把它踢出去。把它扔向觀眾。
10:01
Throw it into the audience聽眾 again.
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再丟一次。
10:02
We've我們已經 got mental心理 architecture建築, we're sharing分享 it,
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我們有個心理結構,分享它
10:04
therefore因此 solving a problem問題. They're enacting頒布 it.
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因而解決問題。他們正這樣做。
10:06
Let me just see that a little bit. Ready準備, and go.
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讓我看一下。預備,開始。
10:08
(Clicks點擊 metronome節拍器)
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(打拍子)
10:13
Okay, brilliant輝煌. Okay, here we go. From the beginning開始,
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太棒了。再來一次。
10:14
can we do our phrases短語 first? And then that.
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可以先跳我們的舞句?然後再這樣。
10:17
And we're going to build建立 something now, organize組織 it,
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我們正在建立及組織
10:19
the phrases短語. Here we go. Nice尼斯 and slow?
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這些舞句。開始。很好,慢慢來?
10:21
Ready準備 and go ... umUM. (Clicks點擊 metronome節拍器)
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預備,開始。(打拍子)
10:24
(Clicks點擊 metronome節拍器)
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(打拍子)
10:28
The duet雙人 starts啟動. (Clicks點擊 metronome節拍器)
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雙人舞開始了。(打拍子)
10:32
(Clicks點擊 metronome節拍器)
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(打拍子)
10:45
So yeah, okay, good. Okay, nice不錯, very nice不錯. (Applause掌聲)
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好的,很好,好,很好,非常好。(掌聲)
10:49
So good. So -- (Applause掌聲)
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很好。所以──(掌聲)
10:51
Okay. So that was -- (Applause掌聲)
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好的。那是──(掌聲)
10:54
Well doneDONE. (Applause掌聲)
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做的好。(掌聲)
10:56
That was the second第二 way of working加工.
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這是第二種運作方式。
10:57
The first one, body-to-body身體到身體 transfer轉讓, yeah,
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第一種,身體對身體的轉移,對吧?
11:00
with an outside mental心理 architecture建築 that I work with
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和一個外在的心理結構合作,
11:02
that they hold保持 memory記憶 with for me.
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而他們為我承接記憶。
11:04
The second第二 one, which哪一個 is using運用 them as objects對象 to think
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第二種,將他們視為物體來思考
11:07
with their architectural建築的 objects對象, I do a series系列 of
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和結構物體,我下了一連串指令,
11:08
provocations挑釁, I say, "If this happens發生, then that.
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「如果這樣,然後那樣」
11:11
If this, if that happens發生 -- " I've got lots of methods方法 like that,
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若這樣,若那樣──
「我有許多像這樣的方式,
11:13
but it's very, very quick, and this is a third第三 method方法.
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但是非常、 非常快速」,
這是第三種方法。
11:16
They're starting開始 it already已經, and this is a task-based基於任務 method方法,
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他們已經開始了,
這是以任務為主的方法,
11:19
where they have the autonomy自治 to make
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他們有自主權,
可以做所有的決定。
11:20
all of the decisions決定 for themselves他們自己.
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11:22
So I'd like us just to do, we're going to do a little
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我請大家試試看,
11:23
mental心理 dance舞蹈, a little, in this little one minute分鐘,
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在這短短一分鐘來點心靈舞蹈。
11:27
so what I'd love you to do is imagine想像,
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請大家開始想像,
11:29
you can do this with your eyes眼睛 closed關閉, or open打開, and if you
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你可閉上雙眼或者睜開,
11:31
don't want to do it you can watch them, it's up to you.
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如果你不想,大可觀賞,由你決定。
11:33
Just for a second第二, think about that word "TEDTED" in front面前 of
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花一秒鐘想一下"TED"在你面前,
11:37
you, so it's in mind心神, and it's there right in front面前 of your mind心神.
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它就在你腦中,就在你腦海前,
11:40
What I'd like you to do is transplant移植 that outside
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我要你把它向外移植到
11:43
into the real真實 world世界, so just imagine想像 that word "TEDTED"
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現實世界,想像一下"TED"這個字
11:46
in the real真實 world世界.
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在真實世界。
11:48
What I'd like you to do what that is take an aspect方面 of it.
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我要你們從某個觀點來看。
11:51
I'm going to zone in on the "E," and I'm going to
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我將專注在"E"這個字,
11:55
scale規模 that "E" so it's absolutely絕對 massive大規模的,
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我要放大它,所以它很龐大,
11:57
so I'm scaling縮放 that "E" so it's absolutely絕對 massive大規模的,
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我正放大"E",所以它現在很龐大。
12:00
and then I'm going to give it dimensionality維數.
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然後我要它是立體的,
12:01
I'm going to think about it in 3D space空間. So now,
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我要在三度空間思考這個字,
12:03
instead代替 of it just being存在 a letter that's in front面前 of me,
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而非只是一個我面前的字母,
12:06
it's a space空間 that my body身體 can go inside of.
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這是我身體可走進的空間。
12:09
I now decide決定 where I'm going to be in that space空間,
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我要決定我在這空間的哪邊,
12:11
so I'm down on this small part部分 of the bottom底部 rib肋骨
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我退到"E"底邊這小小的部分,
12:16
of the letter "E," and I'm thinking思維 about it, and I'm imagining想像
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我正在想,我正在想像
12:19
this space空間 that's really high and above以上. If I asked you to
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這空間高高在上。如果我要你伸手去摸,
12:22
reach達到 out — you don't have to literally按照字面 do it, but in mind心神
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你不必真的伸出手,而是在心中想像
12:25
reach達到 out to the top最佳 of the "E," where would you reach達到?
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伸手去碰"E"的頂端,你會碰觸到哪?
12:28
If you reach達到 with your finger手指, where would it be?
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如果用手指,會是如何?
12:30
If you reach達到 with your elbow彎頭, where would it be?
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如果用手肘,又會怎樣?
12:33
If I already已經 then said about that space空間 that you're in,
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如果我已向你說明你所在的空間,
12:37
let's infuse注入 it with the color顏色 red, what does that do
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現在讓紅色融入這空間,
12:39
to the body身體? If I then said to you, what happens發生 if
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這對身體有什麼影響嗎?如果我說
12:42
that whole整個 wall on the side of "E" collapses崩潰 and you have to
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"E"內部所有牆面都倒塌了,
你必須用你所有力量把它再蓋起來,
12:45
use your weight重量 to put it back up,
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12:47
what would you be able能夠 to do with it?
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你能夠怎麼做?
12:49
So this is a mental心理 picture圖片, I'm describing說明 a mental心理,
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這是一幅心理圖畫,我正在描述心理的
12:51
vivid生動 picture圖片 that enables使 dancers舞者 to make choices選擇
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鮮明的畫面讓舞者能夠
自己做出選擇。
12:55
for themselves他們自己 about what to make.
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12:58
Okay, you can open打開 your eyes眼睛 if you had them closed關閉.
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若你剛閉上眼,可睜開了。
12:59
So the dancers舞者 have been working加工 on them.
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舞者們從剛才就這樣做,
13:00
So just keep working加工 on them for a little second第二.
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讓他們稍微繼續一會。
13:02
So they've他們已經 been working加工 on those mental心理 architectures架構 in the here.
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他們一直在這裡做這些心理結構。
13:05
I know, I think we should keep them as a surprise.
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我知道,我們應該讓它出人意表。
13:08
So here goes, world世界 premiere首映 dance舞蹈. Yeah? Here we go.
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這就是我們的世界首演。可以嗎?開始。
13:10
TEDTED dance舞蹈. Okay. Here it comes. I'm going to organize組織 it quickly很快.
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TED 舞蹈。來吧。我將迅速組織一下。
13:14
So, you're going to do the first solo獨奏 that we made製作,
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你先跳我們設計的獨舞,
13:17
yeah blah胡說 blah胡說 blah胡說 blah胡說, we go into the duet雙人, yeah,
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很好,這樣這樣,然後雙人舞,對,
13:20
blah胡說 blah胡說 blah胡說 blah胡說. The next下一個 solo獨奏, blah胡說 blah胡說 blah胡說 blah胡說,
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然後...下一個獨舞...這樣這樣,
13:24
yeah, and both at the same相同 time, you do the last solutions解決方案.
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兩人同時,你做最後的詮釋,
13:27
Okay? Okay. Ladies女士們 and gentlemen紳士, world世界 premiere首映,
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可以嗎?好。各位女士先生,世界首演,
13:30
TEDTED dance舞蹈, three versions版本 of physical物理 thinking思維. (Applause掌聲)
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TED 舞蹈,三種模式的物理思維。(掌聲)
13:33
Well, clap afterwards之後, let's see if it's any good, yeah? (Laughter笑聲)
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先看是不是那麼好再鼓掌好嗎?(笑聲)
13:36
So yeah, let's clap -- yeah, let's clap afterwards之後.
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讓我們鼓掌──嗯,讓我們之後再拍。
13:38
Here we go. Catarina聖卡塔琳娜, big moment時刻, here we go, one.
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開始,卡塔琳娜,關鍵時刻,開始,
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(打拍子)
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Here it comes, Cat. (Clicks點擊 metronome節拍器)
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來囉,卡特。(打拍子)
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Paolo保羅, go. (Clicks點擊 metronome節拍器) Last you solo獨奏.
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保歐羅,開始。(打拍子)最後你獨舞。
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The one you made製作. (Clicks點擊 metronome節拍器)
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你剛設計的 。(打拍子)
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Well doneDONE. Okay, good. Super. So --
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做的好。好,很好,很棒。所以──
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(Applause掌聲)
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(掌聲)
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So -- (Applause掌聲)
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所以──(掌聲)
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Thank you. (Applause掌聲)
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謝謝。(掌聲)
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So -- three versions版本. (Applause掌聲) Oh. (Laughs)
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所以──三種模式。(掌聲)哦。(笑聲)
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(Applause掌聲) Three versions版本 of physical物理 thinking思維, yeah?
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(掌聲)三種物理思維模式,可以嗎?
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Three versions版本 of physical物理 thinking思維. I'm hoping希望 that today今天,
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三種物理思維。我希望今天離開後
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what you're going to do is go away and make a dance舞蹈
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你會開始為自己而跳,
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for yourself你自己, and if not that,
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如果不是這樣,
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at least最小 misbehave行為不端 more beautifully精美, more often經常.
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至少更常、更漂亮地「胡鬧」一番,
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Thank you very much. (Applause掌聲)
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非常感謝。(掌聲)
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Thank you. Thank you. (Applause掌聲)
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謝謝,謝謝。(掌聲)
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Here we go. (Applause掌聲)
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就這樣。(掌聲)
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(Applause掌聲)
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(掌聲)
Translated by Chia Hui Lee
Reviewed by Adrienne Lin

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Wayne McGregor - Dancer and Choreographer
Wayne McGregor and his dancers explore the uncharted territory where mind and movement intersect.

Why you should listen

Wayne McGregor is a man in perpetual motion. When not incubating new approaches to choreography with his company, Random Dance, he creates works for ballet, theatre and opera companies worldwide--including the Royal Ballet in London, where he's choreographer in residence, and contemporary dance powerhouse Sadler's Wells. In ongoing collaborations with psychologists, neuroscientists and cognitive scientists, Random dancers are helping researchers measure and analyze how the brain works in the creative process. Whatʼs emerged so far is that we can, and do, think with our bodies.

McGregor is no stranger to pop culture: he's designed movement for Thom Yorke of Radiohead and for Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. This spring he collaborated with DJ Mark Ronson on Carbon Life, a piece for the Royal Ballet with vocals from Boy George. And he's creating a new dance piece for thousands of dancers in Londonʼs Trafalgar Square on Saturday, July 14.

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