ABOUT THE SPEAKER
John Maeda - Artist
John Maeda, the former president of the Rhode Island School of Design, is dedicated to linking design and technology. Through the software tools, web pages and books he creates, he spreads his philosophy of elegant simplicity.

Why you should listen

When John Maeda became president of the legendary Rhode Island School of Design (RISD) in 2008, he told the Wall Street Journal, "Everyone asks me, 'Are you bringing technology to RISD?' I tell them, no, I'm bringing RISD to technology."

In his fascinating career as a programmer and an artist, he's always been committed to blurring the lines between the two disciplines. As a student at MIT, studying computer programming, the legendary Muriel Cooper persuaded him to follow his parallel passion for fine art and design. And when computer-aided design began to explode in the mid-1990s, Maeda was in a perfect position at the MIT Media Lab to influence and shape the form, helping typographers and page designers explore the freedom of the web.

Maeda is leading the "STEAM" movement--adding an "A" for Art to the education acronym STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math)--and experiencing firsthand the transformation brought by social media. After leaving his post as RISD's president, Maeda is turning his attention to Silicon Valley, where is is working as a Design Partner for Kleiner, Perkins, Caulfield and Byers. He is also consulting for eBay, where he is the chair of the Design Advisory Board.

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TEDGlobal 2012

John Maeda: How art, technology and design inform creative leaders

John Maeda 談藝術、科技、設計如何幫助創意型領導者

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John Maeda 是羅德島設計學院院長。在這一個有趣且迷人的演講中,他談到他一生中在藝術、設計、和科技中的作品,並以未來創意型領導者的圖片做結尾。注意看 Maeda 早期的作品——包括那部由「人」組成的「電腦」。
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John Maeda, the former president of the Rhode Island School of Design, is dedicated to linking design and technology. Through the software tools, web pages and books he creates, he spreads his philosophy of elegant simplicity. Full bio

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I have to say that I'm very glad高興 to be here.
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我必須說我很高興站在這裡。
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I understand理解 we have over 80 countries國家 here,
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我知道這裡有來自多於80個國家的朋友,
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so that's a whole整個 new paradigm範例 for me to speak說話
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這對我而言是個新體驗,
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to all of these countries國家.
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我是說跟這麼多國家對話。
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In each country國家, I'm sure you have this thing called
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在你們的國家,你們也一定聽過
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the parent-teacher家長教師 conference會議.
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家長教師會議這東西。
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Do you know about the parent-teacher家長教師 conference會議?
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你知道家長會嗎?
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Not the ones那些 for your kids孩子, but the one you had as a child兒童,
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不是你為了你子女出席的家長會,而是你小時候那種,
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where your parents父母 come to school學校 and your teacher老師
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你爸媽到學校和你的老師見面的家長會。
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talks會談 to your parents父母, and it's a little bit awkward尷尬.
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老師會和你的父母說話,氣氛通常有點奇怪的。
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Well, I remember記得 in third第三 grade年級, I had this moment時刻
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我記得在我三年級的時候,
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where my father父親, who never takes off from work,
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我永遠無法放下工作的爸爸﹣﹣
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he's a classical古典 blue藍色 collar, a working-class工人階級 immigrant移民 person,
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他是個典型的藍領工人、移民,
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going to school學校 to see his son兒子, how he's doing,
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特地到學校去看看他的兒子(我)在學校的表現怎麼樣。
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and the teacher老師 said to him, he said, "You know,
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然後我的老師跟他說:「你知道的,
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John約翰 is good at math數學 and art藝術."
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John的數學和美術科成績很好。」
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And he kind of nodded點頭, you know?
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他還點頭了呢。
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The next下一個 day I saw him talking to a customer顧客 at our
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但是第二天當我看到他在我們的豆腐店和一位客人說話時,
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tofu豆腐 store商店, and he said, "You know, John's約翰 good at math數學."
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他說:「嗯,John的數學不錯。」
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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And that always stuck卡住 with me all my life.
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我一直沒有忘記這件事。
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Why didn't Dad say art藝術? Why wasn't it okay?
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為什麼爸不提美術呢?美術不好嗎?
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Why? It became成為 a question my entire整個 life, and
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這個「為什麼」一直留在我腦海裡。
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that's all right, because being存在 good at math數學 meant意味著
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不過這也沒關係,因為「我數學很好」
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he bought me a computer電腦, and some of you remember記得
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他買了一台電腦給我。你們其中部分人也許還記得
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this computer電腦, this was my first computer電腦.
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那種很久以前的電腦,那是我的第一台電腦。
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Who had an Apple蘋果 IIII? Apple蘋果 IIII users用戶, very cool. (Applause掌聲)
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有人曾經擁有過一台蘋果2號電腦嗎?蘋果2號用家很酷喔。(掌聲)
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As you remember記得, the Apple蘋果 IIII did nothing at all. (Laughter笑聲)
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你也許還記得,蘋果2號其實沒多少功能。
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You'd plug插頭 it in, you'd type類型 in it and green綠色 text文本 would come out.
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你可以插上電源,打字,然後一堆綠色的字會在屏幕上出現。
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It would say you're wrong錯誤 most of the time.
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它通常會說「你錯了」。
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That was the computer電腦 we knew知道.
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那就是我們以前認識的電腦。
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That computer電腦 is a computer電腦 that I learned學到了 about
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那是我上學時研究的電腦
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going to MITMIT, my father's父親的 dream夢想. And at MITMIT, however然而,
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我上的是麻省理工學院,那是我爸的夢想。但是在學校,
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I learned學到了 about the computer電腦 at all levels水平,
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我學到了各式各樣的電腦相關知識,
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and after, I went to art藝術 school學校 to get away from computers電腦,
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之後卻為了逃離電腦跑去讀美術學校。
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and I began開始 to think about the computer電腦 as more of
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然後我開始想,其實電腦這玩意兒
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a spiritual精神 space空間 of thinking思維.
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為我們提供了一個思考的空間。
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And I was influenced影響 by performance性能 art藝術 --
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而且因為我受到表演藝術的影響﹣﹣
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so this is 20 years年份 ago. I made製作 a computer電腦 out of people.
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請記得這是二十年前的事了﹣﹣我用「人」造了一部「電腦」。
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It was called the Human人的 Powered供電 Computer電腦 Experiment實驗.
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這個作品就叫做「人力電腦實驗」。
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I have a power功率 manager經理, mouse老鼠 driver司機, memory記憶, etc等等.,
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這包括了一個電源管理、滑鼠驅動程式、記憶體等等。
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and I built內置 this in Kyoto京都, the old capital首都 of Japan日本.
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我是在日本的古都﹣﹣京都做這個實驗的。
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It's a room房間 broken破碎 in two halves.
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我把一個房間切割為兩部分。
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I've turned轉身 the computer電腦 on,
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我會啟動這台「電腦」,
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and these assistants助理 are placing配售 a giant巨人 floppy軟盤 disk磁盤
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而這些助手們正在把一個巨大的磁碟(floppy disk)
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built內置 out of cardboard紙板, and it's put into the computer電腦.
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這個用紙板造的磁碟會被放返「電腦」裡面。
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And the floppy軟盤 disk磁盤 drive駕駛 person wears穿 it. (Laughter笑聲)
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而扮演磁碟的人會把它掛在身上。(笑聲)
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She finds認定 the first sector扇形 on the disk磁盤, and
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她會拿出磁碟的其中一部分,
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takes data數據 off the disk磁盤 and passes通行證 it off to, of course課程, the bus總線.
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然後交給,嗯,當然是交給傳送資訊的巴士(bus,電路板上的一條線)。
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So the bus總線 diligently用心 carries攜帶 the data數據 into the computer電腦
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而巴士會把資料送到電腦
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to the memory記憶, to the CPU中央處理器, the VRAMVRAM, etc等等.,
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的記憶體,到中央處理器(CPU),再到視頻記憶體(VRAM)等部分。
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and it's an actual實際 working加工 computer電腦. That's a bus總線, really. (Laughter笑聲)
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這真的是一部可以運作的電腦。喔,那也是一部真正的巴士。(笑聲)
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And it looks容貌 kind of fast快速. That's a mouse老鼠 driver司機,
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而且這看起來還挺快的。這是滑鼠驅動程式,
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where it's XYXY. (Laughter笑聲)
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就是有X和Y。(笑聲)
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It looks容貌 like it's happening事件 kind of quickly很快, but it's actually其實
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這看起來運行得很快,但其實
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a very slow computer電腦, and when I realized實現 how slow
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這是一部很慢的電腦,而當我發現以前的電腦
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this computer電腦 was compared相比 to how fast快速 a computer電腦 is,
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和現在的電腦比到底有多慢的時候,
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it made製作 me wonder奇蹟 about computers電腦 and technology技術 in general一般.
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我開始思考關於電腦和科技的問題。
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And so I'm going to talk today今天 about four things, really.
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而我今天的演講是關於四件事的,只是四件事。
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The first three things are about how I've been curious好奇
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頭三件事物是我一直很有興趣的,
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about technology技術, design設計 and art藝術, and how they intersect相交,
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包括科技、設計、藝術,和這三者之間的關係,
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how they overlap交疊, and also a topic話題 that I've taken採取 on
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它們如何重叠,還有最後一個主題:
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since以來 four years年份 ago I became成為 the President主席
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自從四年前我成為羅德島設計學院院長之後
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of Rhode羅德島 Island School學校 of Design設計: leadership領導.
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一直在想的﹣﹣領導力。
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And I'll talk about how I've looked看著 to combine結合
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我也會談到我怎樣嘗試把這四個東西結合起來
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these four areas into a kind of a synthesis合成, a kind of experiment實驗.
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變成一個組織、一個實驗。
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So starting開始 from technology技術,
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先從科技開始說起,
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technology技術 is a wonderful精彩 thing.
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科技真是個美妙的東西。
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When that Apple蘋果 IIII came來了 out, it really could do nothing.
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蘋果2號剛面世時,它的功能真的不多。
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It could show顯示 text文本 and
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它只能顯示一些文字
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after we waited等待 a bit, we had these things called images圖片.
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改良以後才能顯示圖像。
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Remember記得 when images圖片 were first possible可能 with a computer電腦,
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還記不記得當圖像第一次出面在電腦屏幕上﹣﹣
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those gorgeous華麗, full-color飽滿的色彩 images圖片?
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那些彩色的、美麗的圖像?
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And then after a few少數 years年份, we got CD-qualityCD音質 sound聲音.
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幾年後,我們便有了具CD質素的音效。
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It was incredible難以置信. You could listen to sound聲音 on the computer電腦.
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這真是奇妙,在電腦上播放聲音呢!
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And then movies電影, via通過 CD-ROM光盤. It was amazing驚人.
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然後有了燒錄在CD上的電影。真的太神奇了。
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Remember記得 that excitement激動?
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還記得那種興奮感嗎?
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And then the browser瀏覽器 appeared出現. The browser瀏覽器 was great,
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然後我們有了瀏覽器,它真的很棒,
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but the browser瀏覽器 was very primitive原始, very narrow狹窄 bandwidth帶寬.
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但是當時的瀏覽器還是很粗糙的,網速也很慢。
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Text文本 first, then images圖片, we waited等待,
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文字,再來是圖像,我們等了很久
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CD-qualityCD音質 sound聲音 over the Net,
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才等到CD質素的聲音在網上出現,
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then movies電影 over the Internet互聯網. Kind of incredible難以置信.
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然後才有網上電影。不得不說這還挺厲害的。
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And then the mobile移動 phone電話 occurred發生,
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之後我們發明了手提電話,
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text文本, images圖片, audio音頻, video視頻. And now we have iPhone蘋果手機,
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文字、圖像、聲音、影片。現在我們有了iPhone,
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iPadiPad的, AndroidAndroid的, with text文本, video視頻, audio音頻, etc等等.
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iPad, Android,文字短訊、影片甚麼的都有了。
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You see this little pattern模式 here?
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你看到這其中的模式了嗎?
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We're kind of stuck卡住 in a loop循環, perhaps也許, and this sense
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我們好像被困在一個特定模式裡面了,
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of possibility可能性 from computing計算 is something I've been
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也許這就是我為什麼
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questioning疑問 for the last 10 or so years年份,
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在過去十年來一直在疑惑
電腦帶來的可能性到底是甚麼,
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and have looked看著 to design設計, as we understand理解 most things,
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而我轉向從設計中尋找答案,
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and to understand理解 design設計 with our technology技術 has been a passion of mine.
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而從科技的角度了解設計一向是我的興趣之一。
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And I have a small experiment實驗 to give you a quick design設計 lesson.
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我有個小實驗可以讓你體驗一下設計是怎樣的。
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Designers設計師 talk about the relationship關係 between之間 form形成
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設計師說的「形式和內容」、「內容和形式」
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and content內容, content內容 and form形成. Now what does that mean?
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之間的關係。這到底代表什麼?
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Well, content內容 is the word up there: fear恐懼.
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是這樣的,內容是這個字:恐懼。
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It's a four-letter四個字母 word. It's a kind of a bad feeling感覺 word, fear恐懼.
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這個字只有4個字母,它是個不怎麼好的詞,恐懼嘛。
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Fear恐懼 is set in Light Helvetica黑體, so it's not too stressful壓力,
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當這個詞用上Light Helvetica字型,看起來不會那麼有壓迫感。
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and if you set it in Ultra Light Helvetica黑體,
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如果你用Ultra Light Helvetica,
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it's like, "Oh, fear恐懼, who cares管它?" Right? (Laughter笑聲)
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看了之後可能會覺得,「喔,只是惡懼而已啦!」對不對?(笑聲)
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You take the same相同 Ultra Light Helvetica黑體 and make it big,
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用同樣的字型但把它放大,
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and like, whoa, that hurts傷害. Fear恐懼.
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然後它就變成「哇,恐懼喔,會痛吧」
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So you can see how you change更改 the scale規模, you change更改
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這樣你可以看到只要改變字的大小,
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the form形成. Content內容 is the same相同, but you feel differently不同.
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你就可以改變它的形態。內容是一樣的,但感覺完全不一樣了。
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You change更改 the typeface字體 to, like, this typeface字體,
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你改變字型,譬如把它變成這種字型,
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and it's kind of funny滑稽. It's like pirate海盜 typeface字體,
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它看起來就會變得有點好笑。看起來像海盜的字型,
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like Captain隊長 Jack插口 Sparrow麻雀 typeface字體. Arr編曲! Fear恐懼!
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像傑克船長寫的字。「喔喔!恐懼!」
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Like, aww, that's not fearful可怕. That's actually其實 funny滑稽.
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好吧,這聽起來一點也不恐怖,反而還有點搞笑。
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Or fear恐懼 like this, kind of a nightclub夜店 typeface字體. (Laughter笑聲)
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也可以用這種像夜店招牌的字型。(笑聲)
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Like, we gotta總得 go to Fear恐懼. (Laughter笑聲)
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好像在說「來,我們一定要去『恐懼』!」(笑聲)
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It's, like, amazing驚人, right? (Laughter笑聲) (Applause掌聲)
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也好像說這很酷,對不對?(笑聲)(掌聲)
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It just changes變化 the same相同 content內容.
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改變字型就改變了相同內容帶出的感覺。
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Or you make it -- The letters are separated分離 apart距離,
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你也可以改變字之間的距離,
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they're huddled together一起 like on the deck甲板 of the Titanic泰坦尼克號,
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把它們弄成像在泰坦尼克號甲板上抱成一團,
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and you feel sorry for the letters, like, I feel the fear恐懼.
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你真的會感覺到那種恐懼。
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You feel for them.
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你真的會被觸動。
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Or you change更改 the typeface字體 to something like this.
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你也可以把字型變成這種。
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It's very classy優雅. It's like that expensive昂貴 restaurant餐廳, Fear恐懼.
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這字型很經典。就好像一間高級餐廳「恐懼」。
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I can never get in there. (Laughter笑聲)
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我永遠也不會踏足那裡。(笑聲)
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It's just amazing驚人, Fear恐懼. But that's form形成, content內容.
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這真的很奇妙。恐懼。但這就是形式,內容。
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If you just change更改 one letter in that content內容,
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如果你只改變其中一個字母,
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you get a much better word, much better content內容: free自由.
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你會得到一個很好的詞,比恐懼好很多的內容:自由。
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"Free自由" is a great word. You can serve服務 it almost幾乎 any way.
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自由是個很好的詞。你幾乎可以把它用任何方式呈現。
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Free自由 bold膽大 feels感覺 like Mandela曼德拉 free自由.
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粗體的「自由」看起來像曼德拉的自由。
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It's like, yes, I can be free自由.
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好像在說,是的,我可以得到自由。
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Free自由 even light feels感覺 kind of like, ah, I can breathe呼吸 in free自由.
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而幼體的「自由」就好像在說,喔,我可以自由地呼吸呢。
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It feels感覺 great. Or even free自由 spread傳播 out,
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這樣感覺很好。如果把字距拉開,
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it's like, ah, I can breathe呼吸 in free自由, so easily容易.
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就變成,啊,我可以這麼輕易地自由呼吸呢。
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And I can add in a blue藍色 gradient梯度 and a dove鴿子,
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如果加上漸變藍和白鴿,
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and I have, like, Don Draper德雷珀 free自由. (Laughter笑聲)
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就會變成Don Draper(廣告狂人)的「自由」。(笑聲)
06:49
So you see that -- form形成, content內容, design設計, it works作品 that way.
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所以你看到了﹣﹣形式、設計,它是這麼運作的。
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It's a powerful強大 thing. It's like magic魔法, almost幾乎,
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它是很有力的。幾乎就像魔術一樣,
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like the magicians魔術師 we've我們已經 seen看到 at TEDTED. It's magic魔法.
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像我們在TED看到的魔術師一樣神奇。這是魔術。
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Design設計 does that.
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設計可以做到這些事。
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And I've been curious好奇 about how design設計 and technology技術 intersect相交,
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而我很好奇設計和科技是怎樣互相影響的,
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and I'm going to show顯示 you some old work I never really
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我會把一些我幾乎不再公開展示的舊作品
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show顯示 anymore, to give you a sense of what I used to do.
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給你們看看,讓你了解一下我以前是做甚麼的。
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So -- yeah.
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所以
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So I made製作 a lot of work in the '90s.
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嗯,我在九零年代做了很多作品。
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This was a square廣場 that responds響應 to sound聲音.
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這是一個會對聲音作反應的正方形。
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People ask me why I made製作 that. It's not clear明確. (Laughter笑聲)
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其他人會問我為什麼要做這個。我也不是很確定。(笑聲)
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But I thought it'd它會 be neat整齊 for the square廣場
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但我覺得正方形這樣給我反應
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to respond響應 to me, and my kids孩子 were small then,
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是一件很酷的事,而當時我的孩子還小,
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and my kids孩子 would play with these things, like, "Aaah啊哈,"
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他們會玩這些東西,「啊呀」
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you know, they would say, "Daddy, aaahAAAH, aaahAAAH." You know, like that.
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你知道的,他們會說「啊呀,爸爸,啊啊」就像這樣。
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We'd星期三 go to a computer電腦 store商店, and they'd他們會 do the same相同 thing.
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我們會去電腦用品店,他們會做同樣的事。
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And they'd他們會 say, "Daddy, why doesn't the computer電腦 respond響應 to sound聲音?"
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他們會問「爸爸,為什麼這個電腦對聲音沒有反應?」
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And it was really at the time I was wondering想知道 why doesn't the computer電腦 respond響應 to sound聲音?
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那是我第一次認真去想
為甚麼電腦不會對聲音作出反應?
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So I made製作 this as a kind of an experiment實驗 at the time.
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所以我做了這樣一個實驗。
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And then I spent花費 a lot of time in the space空間 of
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然後我花了很多時間
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interactive互動 graphics圖像 and things like this, and I stopped停止 doing it because
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研究圖像和類似的東西,然後我停止了這麼做
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my students學生們 at MITMIT got so much better than myself,
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因為我在麻省理工學院的學生比我做得好太多了,
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so I had to hang up my mouse老鼠.
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所以我要放下我的滑鼠了。
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But in '96, I made製作 my last piece. It was in black黑色 and white白色,
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但在1996年我做了最後一個作品。它是黑白的,
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monochrome單色, fully充分 monochrome單色, all in integer整數 mathematics數學.
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單色的,完全是單色的,只有整數數字。
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It's called "Tap龍頭, Type類型, Write."
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它叫做「按鈕、打字、書寫」(Tap, Type, Write)。
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It's paying付款 a tribute to the wonderful精彩 typewriter打字機
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這是向我母親的打字機致敬的作品,
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that my mother母親 used to type類型 on all the time as a legal法律 secretary秘書.
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我母親是位法律文員,她以前總是用它來打法律文件。
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It has 10 variations變化. (Typing打字 noise噪聲)
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它有10種不同形態。(打字聲)
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(Typing打字 noise噪聲)
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(打字聲)
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There's a shift轉移.
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這是空白鍵。
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Ten variations變化. This is, like, spin the letter around.
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10種變化。看,這是把字母翻轉。
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(Typing打字 noises噪音)
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(打字聲)
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This is, like, a ring of letters. (Typing打字 noises噪音)
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這是個字母圈。(打字聲)
08:40
This is 20 years年份 old, so it's kind of a --
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這已經20歲大了,它有點像﹣﹣
08:43
Let's see, this is —
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嗯,看看這個﹣﹣
08:45
I love the French法國 film電影 "The Red Balloon氣球."
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我很喜歡一部法國電影,《紅氣球》
08:47
Great movie電影, right? I love that movie電影. So,
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很棒的電影,對嗎?我很愛那部電影。所以
08:49
this is sort分類 of like a play on that. (Typing打字 noises噪音) (Typewriter打字機 bell)
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這就像是那裡面的一幕。(打字聲)
08:53
It's peaceful平靜的, like that. (Laughter笑聲)
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聽起來很平和。像這樣。(笑聲)
08:57
I'll show顯示 this last one. This is about balance平衡, you know.
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這會是最後一個。這是關於平衡的。
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It's kind of stressful壓力 typing打字 out, so if you
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這樣打出來很有壓力,所以如果你
09:03
type類型 on this keyboard鍵盤, you can, like, balance平衡 it out.
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在這個鍵盤上打字,你可以平衡一下。
09:06
(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
09:08
If you hit擊中 G, life's人生 okay, so I always say,
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如果你打G,這還過得去,我常常這麼說的,
09:11
"Hit擊中 G, and it's going to be all right.
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「打G吧,一切都會沒問題的。」
09:14
Thank you. (Applause掌聲)
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謝謝。(掌聲)
09:17
Thank you.
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謝謝。
09:19
So that was 20 years年份 ago, and
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所以這是20年前的事了,
09:23
I was always on the periphery周邊 of art藝術.
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而我一直在藝術的邊緣徘徊。
09:27
By being存在 President主席 of RISD羅德島設計學院 I've gone走了 deep into art藝術,
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但在羅德島設計學院當院長讓我對藝術有更深入的認識,
09:30
and art藝術 is a wonderful精彩 thing, fine art藝術, pure art藝術.
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藝術真是一件美好的東西。純藝術。
09:33
You know, when people say, "I don't get art藝術.
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你知道,當人們說「我不明白藝術,
09:36
I don't get it at all." That means手段 art藝術 is working加工, you know?
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我完全不明白。」你知道嗎?這表示藝術成功了。
09:41
It's like, art藝術 is supposed應該 to be enigmatic神秘, so when you say,
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這就好像在說藝術應該是深奧難懂的,所以當你說
09:43
like, "I don't get it," like, oh, that's great. (Laughter笑聲)
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「我不明白」的時候,喔,那很好。(笑聲)
09:46
Art藝術 does that, because art藝術 is about asking questions問題,
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藝術就是有這樣的功能,
因為藝術是應該提出一些問題的,
09:48
questions問題 that may可能 not be answerable可回答的.
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有些問題甚至無人能夠回答。
09:51
At RISD羅德島設計學院, we have this amazing驚人 facility設施 called
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在羅德島設計學院,我們有個很棒的地方
09:53
the Edna埃德娜 Lawrence勞倫斯 Nature性質 Lab實驗室. It has 80,000 samples樣本
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叫做Edna Lawrenece自然實驗室。裡面有80,000個
09:57
of animal動物, bone, mineral礦物, plants植物.
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動物、骨頭、礦物、植物的樣本。
10:00
You know, in Rhode羅德島 Island, if an animal動物 gets得到 hit擊中 on the road,
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你知道的,在羅德島上,如果有動物不小心被車撞到,
10:03
they call us up and we pick it up and stuff東東 it.
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開車的人會打電話給我們,
我們就會去把牠拿回來製成標本。
10:06
And why do we have this facility設施?
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我們為甚麼要這樣做呢?
10:09
Because at RISD羅德島設計學院, you have to look at the actual實際 animal動物,
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因為在我們學院,你要看到實物(真正的動物),
10:12
the object目的, to understand理解 its volume, to perceive感知 it.
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去了解牠的大小,去觀察牠。
10:15
At RISD羅德島設計學院, you're not allowed允許 to draw from an image圖片.
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在我們學院你不能只看著照片畫畫。
10:18
And many許多 people ask me, John約翰, couldn't不能 you just
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很多人問我,John,
10:19
digitize數字化 all this? Make it all digital數字? Wouldn't豈不 it be better?
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為什麼你不把這些都數碼化呢?那樣不會比較好嗎?
10:23
And I often經常 say, well, there's something good to how things
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而我常常說,嗯,傳統的方法總是有它的好處。
10:26
used to be doneDONE. There's something very different不同 about it,
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這是很不一樣的,
10:30
something we should figure數字 out what is good about
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是我們應該去思考該怎麼做的事,
10:32
how we did it, even in this new era時代.
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即使在這個新世紀也是一樣。
10:35
And I have a good friend朋友, he's a new media媒體 artist藝術家 named命名
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我有個好朋友,他是一位新媒體藝術家,
10:38
Tota托塔 Hasegawa長谷川. He's based基於 in London倫敦, no, actually其實 it's in Tokyo東京,
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他叫做長谷川踏太。他一般在倫敦,喔不,在東京工作。
10:42
but when he was based基於 in London倫敦, he had a game遊戲
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但當他在倫敦的時候,他會和他的妻子玩一個遊戲。
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with his wife妻子. He would go to antique古董 shops商店,
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他會去古董店,
10:47
and the game遊戲 was as such這樣:
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這個遊戲是這樣玩的:
10:49
When we look at an antique古董 we want,
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當我們看到一件想要的古董,
10:52
we'll ask the shopkeeper店主 for the story故事 behind背後 the antique古董,
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我們會問店主它背後的故事,
10:55
and if it's a good story故事, we'll buy購買 it.
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如果故事是好的,我們會買。
10:57
So they'd他們會 go to an antique古董 shop, and they'd他們會 look at this cup杯子,
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所以有一次他們去古董店時看到一只杯,
10:59
and they'd他們會 say, "Tell us about this cup杯子."
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問店主「可以跟我們說說這只杯嗎?」
11:00
And the shopkeeper店主 would say, "It's old." (Laughter笑聲)
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然後店主只回答,「喔,它很老了。」(笑聲)
11:04
"Tell us more."
"Oh, it's really old." (Laughter笑聲)
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「說多一點吧。」「喔,它真的很老。」(笑聲)
11:08
And he saw, over and over, the antique's古色古香的 value
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然後一次又一次,他看到古董的價值
11:11
was all about it being存在 old.
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似乎就是在於它在多老。
11:13
And as a new media媒體 artist藝術家, he reflected反射的, and said,
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但是作為一個新媒體藝術家,他反思後說,
11:16
you know, I've spent花費 my whole整個 career事業 making製造 new media媒體 art藝術.
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我花了一輩子做新媒體藝術。
11:18
People say, "Wow, your art藝術, what is it?"
It's new media媒體.
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人們都說「哇,你的藝術喔,在哪兒?」新媒體就是這樣。
11:23
And he realized實現, it isn't about old or new.
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然後他了解其實重點不是東西有多老或多新。
11:26
It's about something in between之間.
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重要是的中間的東西。
11:28
It isn't about "old," the dirt污垢, "new," the cloud. It's about what is good.
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這不是「老」或「泥土」或「新」或「雲端」的問題。
重點是東西好不好。
11:33
A combination組合 of the cloud and the dirt污垢 is where the action行動 is at.
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結合雲端和泥土才是行動所在。
11:39
You see it in all interesting有趣 art藝術 today今天, in all
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你可以在現代所有有趣的藝術中看到,
11:41
interesting有趣 businesses企業 today今天. How we combine結合
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在所有有趣的生意中看到。我們如何結合
11:43
those two together一起 to make good is very interesting有趣.
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這兩者來造一些好東西是很有趣的。
11:47
So art藝術 makes品牌 questions問題, and
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所以藝術是會問問題的,
11:50
leadership領導 is something that is asking a lot of questions問題.
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領導力是一種問問題的能力。
11:54
We aren't functioning功能 so easily容易 anymore.
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我們的思考不再像以往一樣簡單了。
11:56
We aren't a simple簡單 authoritarian獨裁的 regime政權 anymore.
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我們不再是個簡單的組織。
12:00
As an example of authoritarianism獨裁主義, I was in Russia俄國 one time
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說到權威主義這東西,我曾經去過俄羅斯
12:03
traveling旅行 in St. Petersburg聖彼得堡, at a national國民 monument紀念碑,
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聖彼德堡,在一個國家紀念碑前
12:05
and I saw this sign標誌 that says, "Do Not Walk步行 On The Grass,"
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我看到一個告示牌說「請勿在草地上行走。」
12:08
and I thought, oh, I mean, I speak說話 English英語,
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我想,嗯,我看得懂英語,
12:10
and you're trying to single me out. That's not fair公平.
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所以你是在把我劃分開來嗎?這不公平。
12:13
But I found發現 a sign標誌 for Russian-speaking俄語 people,
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但是我找到一個給俄語人士看的告示,
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and it was the best最好 sign標誌 ever to say no.
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這是最適合向之說不的告示。
12:19
It was like, "No swimming游泳的, no hiking徒步旅行, no anything."
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它是這麼寫的:「不準游泳,不準登高,不準做任何事。」
12:21
My favorite喜愛 ones那些 are "no plants植物." Why would you bring帶來 a plant to a national國民 monument紀念碑? I'm not sure.
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我最喜歡的是「不準攜帶植物」,
誰要帶植物去看紀念碑呢?我真的不清楚。
12:27
And also "no love." (Laughter笑聲)
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還有「不準愛」。(笑聲)
12:29
So that is authoritarianism獨裁主義.
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所以這就是權威主義。
12:33
And what is that, structurally結構?
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如果從結構來看,權威主義是甚麼?
12:35
It's a hierarchy等級制度. We all know that a hierarchy等級制度 is how we run
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它是一個等級制度。我們都知道
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many許多 systems系統 today今天, but as we know, it's been disrupted破壞.
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這是今天許多組織運作的方式。
但我們同時也知道,這已經和以前的制度不一樣了。
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It is now a network網絡 instead代替 of a perfect完善 tree.
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現在樹型組織被網絡所取代。
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It's a heterarchy異質觀 instead代替 of a hierarchy等級制度. And that's kind of awkward尷尬.
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現在的組織多是層層相叠而不再階級分明。這有一點奇怪。
12:48
And so today今天, leaders領導者 are faced面對
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所以今天的領袖都得面對一個問題﹣﹣
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with how to lead differently不同, I believe.
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如何隨時代改變領袖風格。
12:53
This is work I did with my colleague同事 Becky貝基 BermontBermont
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我是我和一位同事Becky Bermont做的
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on creative創作的 leadership領導. What can we learn學習
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關於創意領導力的研究。我們可以
12:57
from artists藝術家 and designers設計師 for how to lead?
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從藝術家和設計師身上學到甚麼嗎?
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Because in many許多 senses感官, a regular定期 leader領導 loves to avoid避免 mistakes錯誤.
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因為正常的領袖通常會避免犯錯。
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Someone有人 who's誰是 creative創作的 actually其實 loves to learn學習 from mistakes錯誤.
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但有創意的人卻很喜歡從錯誤中學習。
13:08
A traditional傳統 leader領導 is always wanting希望 to be right,
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傳統的領袖常常努力迫使自己把事情做對,
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whereas a creative創作的 leader領導 hopes希望 to be right.
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但一個有創意的領袖通常只是希望自己做對而已。
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And this frame is important重要 today今天, in this complex複雜,
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這樣的思考方式變得愈來愈重要,因為在這個時代,
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ambiguous曖昧 space空間, and artists藝術家 and designers設計師 have a lot to teach us, I believe.
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很多事情變得模糊、難以掌控,因此我相信
我們可以向藝術家和設計師學到很多。
13:23
And I had a show顯示 in London倫敦 recently最近 where my friends朋友
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而我最近參加了倫敦的一個展覽,
13:26
invited邀請 me to come to London倫敦 for four days
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我的朋友邀我去在沙盒中坐四天,
13:28
to sit in a sandbox砂箱, and I said great.
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我說好啊。
13:31
And so I satSAT in a sandbox砂箱 for four days straight直行,
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所以我在沙盒中坐了整整四天,
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six hours小時 every一切 day, six-minute六分鐘 appointments約會 with anyone任何人 in London倫敦,
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每天六小時,無數個和倫敦陌生人的六分鐘會面,
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and that was really bad.
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那真的很糟。
13:39
But I would listen to people, hear their issues問題,
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但是我會聽這些人說話,聽他們的煩惱,
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draw in the sand, try to figure數字 things out,
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在沙上寫字,嘗試幫他們看清問題,
13:45
and it was kind of hard to figure數字 out what I was doing.
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但我卻不太清楚我在做的是甚麼。
13:48
You know? It's all these one-on-one一對一 meetings會議 for like four days.
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你知道那是怎樣的感覺嗎?
和陌生人一對一的對談,持續四天。
13:50
And it felt kind of like being存在 president主席, actually其實.
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其實感覺有點像變成總統似的。
13:52
I was like, "Oh, this my job工作. President主席. I do a lot of meetings會議, you know?"
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我想「嗯,這是我的工作。總統。我要開很多的會,對吧?」
13:55
And by the end結束 of the experience經驗,
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在這個體驗的結尾,
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I realized實現 why I was doing this.
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我突然理解我在做的是甚麼。
14:00
It's because leaders領導者, what we do is we connect
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因為身為領袖,我們在做的就是把
14:04
improbable難以置信 connections連接 and hope希望 something will happen發生,
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看似互不相關的東西連結起來,
然後希望某些事情會發生,
14:08
and in that room房間 I found發現 so many許多 connections連接
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而在那個空間裡,我找到許多倫敦人之間的連結,
14:10
between之間 people across橫過 all of London倫敦, and so leadership領導,
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所以,領導力這東西
14:14
connecting people, is the great question today今天.
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怎樣把人連結起來,就是今天我們該思考的問題。
14:17
Whether是否 you're in the hierarchy等級制度 or the heterarchy異質觀,
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無論你身處的組織是層層分明
還是較鬆散的網絡形式,
14:19
it's a wonderful精彩 design設計 challenge挑戰.
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這會是一個美妙的挑戰。
14:22
And one thing I've been doing is doing some research研究
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而我正在做的一項研究是關於
14:25
on systems系統 that can combine結合 technology技術 and leadership領導
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能把科技和領導力結合的系統,
14:29
with an art藝術 and design設計 perspective透視.
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而這些系統是帶有藝術及設計元素的。
14:30
Let me show顯示 you something I haven't沒有 shown顯示 anywhere隨地, actually其實.
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現在來看看一個我從沒公開演示過的東西。
14:34
So what this is, is a kind of a sketch草圖, an application應用 sketch草圖
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這是一個很初步的草圖,
14:37
I wrote in Python蟒蛇. You know how there's PhotoshopPhotoshop中?
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我用Python(一種程式語言)寫的。
你知道Photoshop是怎樣的嗎?
14:39
This is called PowershopPowershop, and the way it works作品 is
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這叫做Powershop,它是一個假想的組織圖。
14:43
imagine想像 an organization組織. You know, the CEOCEO isn't ever
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在這個組織裡,CEO不是在最上層的。
14:46
at the top最佳. The CEO's首席執行官 at the center中央 of the organization組織.
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CEO是在組織的中心。
14:49
There may可能 be different不同 subdivisions細分 in the organization組織,
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組織裡可能有不同的小組,
14:51
and you might威力 want to look into different不同 areas. For instance,
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你也可以看看這些領域有甚麼不同。譬如,
14:54
green綠色 are areas doing well, red are areas doing poorly不好.
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綠色的部分是做得出色的,
紅色的部分需要改善。
14:57
You know, how do you, as the leader領導, scan掃描, connect,
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而你作為一個領袖,該怎樣觀看全局,連結不同部分,
14:59
make things happen發生? So for instance, you might威力 open打開 up
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讓事情能夠順利進行?假設你開設一個
15:02
a distribution分配 here and find the different不同 subdivisions細分 in there,
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銷售部門,這衍生了一些更小的部門。
15:06
and know that you know someone有人 in Eco生態, over here,
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而你知道你認識在Eco工作的人,
15:09
and
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而且
15:11
these people here are in Eco生態, the people you might威力
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這些在Eco工作的人,
15:13
engage從事 with as CEOCEO, people going across橫過 the hierarchy等級制度.
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這些你以CEO身份認識的人,
他們並不屬於分層結構的一員。
15:17
And part部分 of the challenge挑戰 of the CEOCEO is to find
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而身為CEO的其中一個考驗就是
15:20
connections連接 across橫過 areas, and so you might威力 look in R&D,
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找到各個領域的連結,所以你看向研發部門
15:24
and here you see one person who crosses十字架 the two areas
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你找到一個涉足這兩個領域的人
15:27
of interest利益, and it's a person important重要 to engage從事.
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這就是你該找的人了。
15:31
So you might威力 want to, for instance, get a heads-up抬頭 display顯示
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你可以看看你和他
15:35
on how you're interacting互動 with them.
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有過怎樣的交流。
15:37
How many許多 coffees咖啡 do you have?
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你們一起喝過多少次咖啡?
15:39
How often經常 are you calling調用 them, emailing電子郵件 them?
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你通常隔多久給他們打一次電話或發一個電郵?
15:42
What is the tenor男高音 of their email電子郵件? How is it working加工 out?
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他們電郵的主旨是甚麼?
有好好表達他們要說的話嗎?
15:45
Leaders領導者 might威力 be able能夠 to use these systems系統 to
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領袖可以用這些系統來控制
15:47
better regulate調節 how they work inside the heterarchy異質觀.
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他們在組織內的工作和角色。
15:50
You can also imagine想像 using運用 technology技術 like from Luminoso道路,
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你也可以嘗試用Luminoso科技
(讓電腦了解你在說甚麼的科技)
15:54
the guys from Cambridge劍橋 who were looking at deep
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這些劍橋學者研究的是深層次的文字分析。
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text文本 analysis分析. What is the tenor男高音 of your communications通訊?
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你通訊的主旨是甚麼?
16:00
So these kind of systems系統, I believe, are important重要.
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所以我相信這樣的系統是很重要的。
16:03
They're targeted針對 social社會 media媒體 systems系統 around leaders領導者.
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它們是領袖可用的、目標精準的社交媒體。
16:06
And I believe that this kind of perspective透視 will only begin開始
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而我相信這種視野
16:09
to grow增長 as more leaders領導者 enter輸入 the space空間 of art藝術 and design設計,
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會隨著領袖了解藝術及設計而變得愈來愈普遍,
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because art藝術 and design設計 lets讓我們 you think like this,
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因為藝術及設計會讓你思考方式變得不一樣,
16:18
find different不同 systems系統 like this,
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找到類似的系統,
16:20
and I've just begun開始 thinking思維 like this,
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而我正開始以這種方式思考,
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so I'm glad高興 to share分享 that with you.
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所以很高興能和你分享。
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So in closing關閉, I want to thank all of you
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在結尾前我想謝謝你們
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for your attention注意. Thanks謝謝 very much. (Applause掌聲)
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每一位專心聽我的演講。非常感謝。(掌聲)
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(Applause掌聲)
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(掌聲)
Translated by Juliana So
Reviewed by Joan Liu

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
John Maeda - Artist
John Maeda, the former president of the Rhode Island School of Design, is dedicated to linking design and technology. Through the software tools, web pages and books he creates, he spreads his philosophy of elegant simplicity.

Why you should listen

When John Maeda became president of the legendary Rhode Island School of Design (RISD) in 2008, he told the Wall Street Journal, "Everyone asks me, 'Are you bringing technology to RISD?' I tell them, no, I'm bringing RISD to technology."

In his fascinating career as a programmer and an artist, he's always been committed to blurring the lines between the two disciplines. As a student at MIT, studying computer programming, the legendary Muriel Cooper persuaded him to follow his parallel passion for fine art and design. And when computer-aided design began to explode in the mid-1990s, Maeda was in a perfect position at the MIT Media Lab to influence and shape the form, helping typographers and page designers explore the freedom of the web.

Maeda is leading the "STEAM" movement--adding an "A" for Art to the education acronym STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math)--and experiencing firsthand the transformation brought by social media. After leaving his post as RISD's president, Maeda is turning his attention to Silicon Valley, where is is working as a Design Partner for Kleiner, Perkins, Caulfield and Byers. He is also consulting for eBay, where he is the chair of the Design Advisory Board.

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