Deborah Lipstadt: Behind the lies of Holocaust denial
دبورا لیپستات: ورای دروغهای انکار هولوکاست
Deborah Lipstadt's research focuses on the development of Holocaust denial and how to fight for the truth in an era marked by "alternative facts." Full bio
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about Holocaust denial,
the dubious distinction
genocide in the world?
این اتفاق نیفتاده است؟
their harrowing stories.
دهشتناکشان را برای ما گفته اند.
of towns and villages and cities
و روستاها زندگی می کردند
be rounded up --
جمع کنند --
to the outskirts of the town
و در چاله ها رها شوند.
around the death camps,
مرگ زندگی می کردند،
I was forced to do it."
since the end of World War II
جنگ دوم جهانی
ever said, "It didn't happen."
«این اتفاق نیفتاد.»
but never that it didn't happen.
اما هرگز نگفته اند که اتفاق نیفتاده است.
going to be on my agenda;
در برنامه من جایی ندارد؛
to write about, to research,
یا درباره شان بنویسم و تحقیق کنم،
of the Holocaust --
that we think is perfect for you."
که گمان می کنیم کار تو است.»
that they came to me with an idea
با ایده نزد من آمده اند
to believe what they say?"
گفته هایشان را باور کنند؟»
it was worthwhile,
که ارزشش را دارد
three, maybe even four --
سه، و یا حتی شاید چهار سال --
به این می گویند مدت کوتاه.
with a number of things,
with you today.
to put a "neo" there or not.
یا نه.
as respectable academics.
one inch below the surface,
تنها یک اینچ عمیقتر از سطح را نگاه می کردی،
parading as rational discourse.
به عنوان گفتمان منطقی عرض اندام می کرد.
there are facts and there are opinions --
فکت داریم و عقیده --
is take their lies,
دروغهایشان را بردارند،
Assault on Truth and Memory,"
and ready to move on.
که از ماجرا عبور کنم.
was bringing a libel suit against me
علیه من شکایت کرده
of historical works,
took the position
to get this opinion.
این عقیده را از آن منتج کند.
was this was a man
او همانی بود که
the battleship Auschwitz."
کشتی جنگی آشویتس را غرق کنم.»
on a survivor's arm and said,
اشاره کرد و گفت:
tattooed on your arm?"
خالکوبی کنند؟»
but you can look it up.
درباره اش تحقیق کنید.
at all ashamed or reticent
یا خاموشی پیشه کند.
colleagues counseled me --
توصیه می کردند که
ignore a libel suit,
نمی شود به یک منبع اطلاعات غلط بی اعتنایی کرد،
believe him anyway?"
put the burden of proof on me
بر دوش من نهاد
been in the United States
is a legitimate version.
نسخه برحق است.
to have libeled me
am not a Holocaust denier."
یک انکارکننده هولوکاست نیستم.»
with any suffering that went on,
ربطی نداشت،
and abettance of the allies --
and planted the evidence.
برخورد داشته باشد.
a responsible historian.
مسئول تاریخ بگذارم.
who haven't seen "Denial,"
که فیلم «انکار» را ندیده اید،
in over 25 different major instances.
و مختلف یک الگو را نشان دادیم.
in this audience write books,
خیلی از ما در این جمع کتاب نوشته ایم،
we're glad to have second editions:
دوست داریم ویراست دوم داشته باشیم:
in the same direction:
همان مسیر حرکت کرده:
back to his sources.
تا منابعش بود.
he made some reference to the Holocaust,
او به هولوکاست ارجاع داده بود،
در واقع آنجا حضور نداشت.
he didn't have the evidence.
او مدارکی نداشت.
because he either quotes them
چرا که او یا از آنان نقل قول کرده بود
more than just the story
از یک داستان عادی است
six-year, difficult lawsuit,
شش ساله و دشوار،
being dragged into a courtroom
به دادگاه کشیده شود
declared in its judgment
در قضاوتش گفت
of the question of truth,
مسئله حقیقت،
the gifts it has given us,
به ما داده،
between facts -- established facts --
واقعیت های اثبات شده --
white supremacist language.
برتری جویانه سفید را نشنوید.
"National Front" -- pick your names.
«جبهه ملی» -- هر اسمی که تصور کنید.
that I found in Holocaust denial
که در انکار هولوکاست یافتم
where truth is on the defensive.
که حقیقت در موضع دفاعی قرار گرفته.
in "The New Yorker"
کارتونی داشت از یک مسابقه
is saying to one of the contestants,
از شرکت کنندگان می گوید،
more loudly than you did,
by rational appearances.
that truth is not relative.
one of the highest offices in the land,
بالاترین مناصب کشور هم باشد،
are the same as the facts.
مثل حقیقت است.
truth is not relative.
حقیقت نسبی نیست.
in the world of the academy
رشد یافته ایم
everything is open to debate.
درباره همه چیز می شود بحث کرد.
to recant by the Vatican
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Deborah Lipstadt - HistorianDeborah Lipstadt's research focuses on the development of Holocaust denial and how to fight for the truth in an era marked by "alternative facts."
Why you should listen
Dr. Deborah E. Lipstadt, Dorot professor of Holocaust Studies at Emory University in Atlanta, was sued for libel in 1996 by David Irving for having called him a Holocaust denier. After a ten-week trial in London in 2000, in an overwhelming victory for Lipstadt, the judge found Irving to be a "neo-Nazi polemicist" who "perverts" history and engages in "racist" and "anti-Semitic" discourse. The Daily Telegraph (London) described the trial as having "done for the new century what the Nuremberg tribunals or the Eichmann trial did for earlier generations." The Times (London) described it as "history has had its day in court and scored a crushing victory." According to the New York Times, the trial "put an end to the pretense that Mr. Irving is anything but a self-promoting apologist for Hitler."
The movie Denial, starring Rachel Weisz and Tom Wilkenson with a screenplay by David Hare, tells the story of this legal battle. It is based on Lipstadt's book, History on Trial: My Day in Court with a Holocaust Denier (Harper Collins, 2006), and recently reissued as Denial (Harper Collins, 2016). The film was nominated for a BAFTA as one of the best British films of the year.
Lipstadt has written most recently Holocaust: An American Understanding (Rutgers, 2016), which explores how America has understood and interpreted the Holocaust since 1945.
Her previous book, The Eichmann Trial, (Schocken/Nextbook, 2011) published in commemoration of the 50th anniversary of the Eichmann trial, was called by Publisher's Weekly, "a penetrating and authoritative dissection of a landmark case and its after effects." The New York Times Book Review described Lipstadt as having "done a great service by … recovering the event as a gripping legal drama, as well as a hinge moment in Israel's history and in the world's delayed awakening to the magnitude of the Holocaust."
She has also published Beyond Belief: The American Press And The Coming Of The Holocaust, 1933-1945 (Free Press, 1986), which surveys what the American press wrote about the persecution of the Jews in the years 1933-1945. She is currently writing a book, The Antisemitic Delusion: Letters to a Concerned Student which will be published in 2018.
At Emory, Lipstadt directs the website known as HDOT, Holocaust Denial on Trial, which contains a complete archive of the proceedings of Irving v. Penguin UK and Deborah Lipstadt. It also provides answers to frequent claims made by deniers. Lipstadt has won the Emery Williams Teaching Award, and she was selected for the award by alumni as the teacher who had most influenced them.
Lipstadt was a historical consultant to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, helping design the section of the Museum dedicated to the American Response to the Holocaust. She has held a Presidential appointment to the United States Holocaust Memorial Council (from Presidents Clinton and Obama) and was asked by President George W. Bush to represent the White House at the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz.
Lipstadt has a BA from the City College of New York and an MA and PhD from Brandeis University.
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