Deborah Lipstadt: Behind the lies of Holocaust denial
Deborah Lipstadt: Ce se ascunde în spatele negării Holocaustului
Deborah Lipstadt's research focuses on the development of Holocaust denial and how to fight for the truth in an era marked by "alternative facts." Full bio
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ca să vă povestesc despre mincinoși,
about Holocaust denial,
despre negarea Holocaustului,
the dubious distinction
din întreaga lume?
genocide in the world?
că nici nu s-a întâmplat?
,
their harrowing stories.
întâmplările lor abominabile.
of towns and villages and cities
de orașe, sate și municipii
be rounded up --
au fost adunați la un loc —
to the outskirts of the town
până la periferia orașului
și lăsați morți în șanțuri.
around the death camps,
de lângă lagărele de exterminare,
cine se presupune că nu are dreptate?
I was forced to do it."
am fost forțat să fac asta.”
„Eu am făcut asta.”
since the end of World War II
după cel de-al Doilea Război Mondial
ever said, "It didn't happen."
de naționalitate: ,,Nu s-a întâmplat.”
but never that it didn't happen.
dar niciodată că nu s-a întâmplat nimic.
going to be on my agenda;
nu va fi pusă pe ordinea mea de zi;
to write about, to research,
de scris, de cercetat,
ai Holocaustului --
of the Holocaust --
și credem că e potrivită pentru tine.”
that we think is perfect for you."
that they came to me with an idea
că aceștia au venit la mine cu o idee
,,Negarea Holocaustului.”
to believe what they say?"
pe oameni că au dreptate?”
it was worthwhile,
că merită osteneala,
three, maybe even four --
poate chiar patru ani --
înseamnă scurtă durată.
și am tras câteva concluzii,
with a number of things,
două dintre ele.
with you today.
un ,,neo” acolo sau nu.
to put a "neo" there or not.
as respectable academics.
a fi academicieni respectabili.
one inch below the surface,
deghizată sub forma unui discurs rațional.
parading as rational discourse.
there are facts and there are opinions --
să gândim că există fapte și opinii --
is take their lies,
să-și prezinte minciunile
din conversație.
Assault on Truth and Memory,"
asupra adevărului și a memoriei”,
and ready to move on.
fiind pregătită să merg mai departe.
was bringing a libel suit against me
un proces de calomnie împotriva mea.
contestatar al Holocaustului.
of historical works,
de lucrări istorice,
al Doilea Război Mondial,
took the position
to get this opinion.
pentru a ajunge la această concluzie.
un contestatar al Holocaustului,
was this was a man
era că acest bărbat
al Holocaustului,
the battleship Auschwitz."
vasul de război Auschwitz!”
on a survivor's arm and said,
de pe brațul unui supraviețuitor și a zis:
tattooed on your arm?"
în mașina senatorului Kennedy
de la Auschwitz.”
but you can look it up.
puteți să o verificați.
at all ashamed or reticent
care să pară rușinat sau reticent
al Holocaustului.
colleagues counseled me --
m-au sfătuit:
ignore a libel suit,
un proces de calomniere,
believe him anyway?"
„Oricum, cine o să-l creadă?”
put the burden of proof on me
a pus sarcina probei asupra mea
been in the United States
cu ceea ce ar fi fost în Statele Unite
datelor istorice.
is a legitimate version.
Holocaustului este o versiune legitimă.
to have libeled me
contestatar al Holocaustului.
am not a Holocaust denier."
nu sunt un contestatar al Holocaustului.”
de a-i ucide pe evrei,
with any suffering that went on,
cu toată suferința produsă acolo,
and abettance of the allies --
cu ajutorul Aliaților --
and planted the evidence.
și dovezile false.
a responsible historian.
care nu au văzut ,,Negarea”,
who haven't seen "Denial,"
a fost tendențioasă,
in over 25 different major instances.
în peste 25 de diverse cazuri majore.
in this audience write books,
din acest auditoriu scriem cărți;
motiv ne bucurăm că apar reeditări:
we're glad to have second editions:
in the same direction:
back to his sources.
he made some reference to the Holocaust,
în care făcea referire la Holocaust,
la care nu a participat.
he didn't have the evidence.
că s-a întâmplat --
deoarece fie că el îi citează,
because he either quotes them
more than just the story
decât o simplă povestire
six-year, difficult lawsuit,
dificil și anevoios,
being dragged into a courtroom
în sala de judecată
declared in its judgment
pe care tribunalul l-a declarat
of the question of truth,
foarte semnificativ.
the gifts it has given us,
between facts -- established facts --
- fapte constatate -
white supremacist language.
adepților supremației albilor.
"National Front" -- pick your names.
,,Frontul Național” - alegeți ce vreți.
that I found in Holocaust denial
pe care l-am aflat
where truth is on the defensive.
de partea celor ce se apără.
din ziarul The New Yorker.
in "The New Yorker"
în ,,The New Yorker”,
is saying to one of the contestants,
unuia dintre concurenți:
more loudly than you did,
mai tare decât dumneata
by rational appearances.
de aparențe raționale,
that truth is not relative.
că adevărul nu este relativ.
one of the highest offices in the land,
una din cele mai înalte funcții din țară,
are the same as the facts.
să-i tratăm ca și cum ar fi spus adevărul;
truth is not relative.
adevărul nu este relativ.
in the world of the academy
în anturajul academiei
everything is open to debate.
că totul se poate dezbate.
to recant by the Vatican
să își retragă spusele
în jurul Soarelui,
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Deborah Lipstadt - HistorianDeborah Lipstadt's research focuses on the development of Holocaust denial and how to fight for the truth in an era marked by "alternative facts."
Why you should listen
Dr. Deborah E. Lipstadt, Dorot professor of Holocaust Studies at Emory University in Atlanta, was sued for libel in 1996 by David Irving for having called him a Holocaust denier. After a ten-week trial in London in 2000, in an overwhelming victory for Lipstadt, the judge found Irving to be a "neo-Nazi polemicist" who "perverts" history and engages in "racist" and "anti-Semitic" discourse. The Daily Telegraph (London) described the trial as having "done for the new century what the Nuremberg tribunals or the Eichmann trial did for earlier generations." The Times (London) described it as "history has had its day in court and scored a crushing victory." According to the New York Times, the trial "put an end to the pretense that Mr. Irving is anything but a self-promoting apologist for Hitler."
The movie Denial, starring Rachel Weisz and Tom Wilkenson with a screenplay by David Hare, tells the story of this legal battle. It is based on Lipstadt's book, History on Trial: My Day in Court with a Holocaust Denier (Harper Collins, 2006), and recently reissued as Denial (Harper Collins, 2016). The film was nominated for a BAFTA as one of the best British films of the year.
Lipstadt has written most recently Holocaust: An American Understanding (Rutgers, 2016), which explores how America has understood and interpreted the Holocaust since 1945.
Her previous book, The Eichmann Trial, (Schocken/Nextbook, 2011) published in commemoration of the 50th anniversary of the Eichmann trial, was called by Publisher's Weekly, "a penetrating and authoritative dissection of a landmark case and its after effects." The New York Times Book Review described Lipstadt as having "done a great service by … recovering the event as a gripping legal drama, as well as a hinge moment in Israel's history and in the world's delayed awakening to the magnitude of the Holocaust."
She has also published Beyond Belief: The American Press And The Coming Of The Holocaust, 1933-1945 (Free Press, 1986), which surveys what the American press wrote about the persecution of the Jews in the years 1933-1945. She is currently writing a book, The Antisemitic Delusion: Letters to a Concerned Student which will be published in 2018.
At Emory, Lipstadt directs the website known as HDOT, Holocaust Denial on Trial, which contains a complete archive of the proceedings of Irving v. Penguin UK and Deborah Lipstadt. It also provides answers to frequent claims made by deniers. Lipstadt has won the Emery Williams Teaching Award, and she was selected for the award by alumni as the teacher who had most influenced them.
Lipstadt was a historical consultant to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, helping design the section of the Museum dedicated to the American Response to the Holocaust. She has held a Presidential appointment to the United States Holocaust Memorial Council (from Presidents Clinton and Obama) and was asked by President George W. Bush to represent the White House at the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz.
Lipstadt has a BA from the City College of New York and an MA and PhD from Brandeis University.
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