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Juno Mac: The laws that sex workers really want
Toni Mac: Lovgivningen som sex-arbejdere virkelig ønsker sig
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Alle har en mening om hvordan der skal lovgives om sex-arbejde (enten at legalisere det, forbyde det eller beskatte det) ... Men hvad tænker arbejderne selv vil være det bedste. Aktivisten Toni Mac forklarer fire modeller for lovgivning som bruges rundt omkring i verdenen og viser os den model som hun tror vil gøre sexarbejdere sikrere og sikre større selvbestemmelse. "Hvis du bekymrer dig om fattigdom, migration eller folkesundhed, så angår sexarbejdernes rettigheder også dig", siger hun "Gør plads til os i jeres bevægelser."
Juno Mac - Sex worker and activist
Juno Mac campaigns for better working conditions for sex workers by fighting criminalization and supporting public education projects around issues relating to sex worker rights. Full bio
Juno Mac campaigns for better working conditions for sex workers by fighting criminalization and supporting public education projects around issues relating to sex worker rights. Full bio
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00:12
I want to talk about sex for money.
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Jeg vil tale om sex for penge.
00:15
I'm not like most of the people
you'll have heard speaking
you'll have heard speaking
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Jeg er ikke som de fleste folk
I har hørt tale
I har hørt tale
00:18
about prostitution before.
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om prostitution før.
00:19
I'm not a police officer
or a social worker.
or a social worker.
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Jeg er ikke politibetjent
eller en socialarbejder.
eller en socialarbejder.
00:23
I'm not an academic,
a journalist or a politician.
a journalist or a politician.
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Jeg er ikke en akademiker,
en journalist eller en politiker.
en journalist eller en politiker.
00:26
And as you'll probably have
picked up from Maryam's blurb,
picked up from Maryam's blurb,
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Og som i nok har hørt fra
Maryams bemærkning,
Maryams bemærkning,
00:29
I'm not a nun, either.
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er jeg heller ikke en nonne.
00:30
(Laughter)
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(Latter)
00:31
Most of those people would tell you
that selling sex is degrading;
that selling sex is degrading;
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De fleste af disse mennesker vil fortælle jer
at salg af sex er nedbrydende.
at salg af sex er nedbrydende.
00:35
that no one would ever choose to do it;
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at ingen nogensinde vil vælge at gøre det.
00:37
that it's dangerous;
women get abused and killed.
women get abused and killed.
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At det er farligt; kvinder bliver misbrugt og dræbt.
00:41
In fact, most of those people would say,
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Faktisk, de fleste af disse
mennesker vil sige
mennesker vil sige
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"There should be a law against it!"
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"Det skulle forbydes!"
00:44
Maybe that sounds reasonable to you.
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Måske lyder dette fornuftigt for jer.
00:47
It sounded reasonable to me
until the closing months of 2009,
until the closing months of 2009,
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Det lød fornuftigt for mig indtil slutningen af 2009,
00:51
when I was working two dead-end,
minimum-wage jobs.
minimum-wage jobs.
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hvor jeg arbejdede i to
hjernedøde mindstelønsjob.
hjernedøde mindstelønsjob.
00:55
Every month my wages would just
replenish my overdraft.
replenish my overdraft.
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Hver måned kunne min løn kun
dække mine overtræk.
dække mine overtræk.
00:59
I was exhausted and my life
was going nowhere.
was going nowhere.
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Jeg var udmattet og
mit liv førte til ingenting.
mit liv førte til ingenting.
01:02
Like many others before me,
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Som så mange før mig,
01:04
I decided sex for money
was a better option.
was a better option.
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besluttede jeg at sex for penge
var en bedre mulighed.
var en bedre mulighed.
01:07
Now don't get me wrong --
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Misforstå mig ikke --
01:08
I would have loved
to have won the lottery instead.
to have won the lottery instead.
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Jeg ville have elsket at vinde i lotteriet i stedet for.
01:10
But it wasn't going
to happen anytime soon,
to happen anytime soon,
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Men det ville ikke ske foreløbigt,
01:13
and my rent needed paying.
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og min husleje skulle betales.
01:14
So I signed up for my first
shift in a brothel.
shift in a brothel.
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Så jeg meldte mig til den første vagt på et bordel.
01:18
In the years that have passed,
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I de år der er gået,
01:20
I've had a lot of time to think.
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har jeg haft megen tid til at tænke.
01:22
I've reconsidered the ideas
I once had about prostitution.
I once had about prostitution.
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Jeg har genovervejet de ideer jeg
engang havde om prostitution.
engang havde om prostitution.
01:25
I've given a lot of thought to consent
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Jeg har tænkt meget over samtykke
01:27
and the nature of work under capitalism.
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og hvordan vi arbejder under kapitalismen.
01:30
I've thought about gender inequality
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Jeg har tænkt over ulighed mellem kønnene
01:32
and the sexual and reproductive
labor of women.
labor of women.
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og kvinders seksuelle og reproduktive arbejde.
01:35
I've experienced exploitation
and violence at work.
and violence at work.
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Jeg har oplevet udnyttelse og vold på arbejdet.
01:39
I've thought about what's needed
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Jeg har tænkt over hvad der er behov for
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to protect other sex workers
from these things.
from these things.
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for at beskytte andre sexarbejdere mod disse ting.
01:42
Maybe you've thought about them, too.
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Måske har I også tænkt over disse ting.
01:45
In this talk,
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I denne tale,
01:46
I'll take you through
the four main legal approaches
the four main legal approaches
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vil jeg gennemgå de fire måder man lovgiver
01:48
applied to sex work throughout the world,
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om sexarbejde i Verdenen,
01:50
and explain why they don't work;
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og forklare hvorfor de ikke virker.
01:52
why prohibiting the sex industry
actually exacerbates every harm
actually exacerbates every harm
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Hvorfor forbud mod sexindustrien
faktisk forstærker enhver skade
faktisk forstærker enhver skade
01:55
that sex workers are vulnerable to.
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som sexarbejdere er udsat for.
01:58
Then I'm going tell you about what we,
as sex workers, actually want.
as sex workers, actually want.
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Jeg vil fortælle jer om hvad vi
sexarbejdere faktisk ønsker.
sexarbejdere faktisk ønsker.
02:03
The first approach
is full criminalization.
is full criminalization.
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Den første måde er fuld kriminalisering.
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Half the world,
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Halvdelen af verdenen
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including Russia, South Africa
and most of the US,
and most of the US,
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herunder Rusland, Sydafrika og det meste af USA
02:10
regulates sex work by criminalizing
everyone involved.
everyone involved.
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regulerer sexarbejde ved at
kriminaliserer alle der deltager.
kriminaliserer alle der deltager.
02:13
So that's seller, buyer and third parties.
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Det er sælger, køber og tredjepart.
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Lawmakers in these countries
apparently hope
apparently hope
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Lovgiverne i disse lande håber åbenbart
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that the fear of getting arrested
will deter people from selling sex.
will deter people from selling sex.
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at frygten for at blive arresteret
vil afskrække folk fra at sælge sex.
vil afskrække folk fra at sælge sex.
02:22
But if you're forced to choose
between obeying the law
between obeying the law
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Men hvis du er tvunget til at
vælge mellem at følge loven
vælge mellem at følge loven
02:25
and feeding yourself or your family,
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eller skaffe mad til din familie,
02:27
you're going to do the work anyway,
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må du gøre arbejdet alligevel
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and take the risk.
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og tage risikoen.
02:30
Criminalization is a trap.
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Kriminalisering er en fælde.
02:32
It's hard to get a conventional job
when you have a criminal record.
when you have a criminal record.
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Det er svært at få et almindeligt job
hvis du har ting på din straffeattest.
hvis du har ting på din straffeattest.
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Potential employers won't hire you.
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Mulige arbejdsgivere vil ikke ansætte dig.
02:38
Assuming you still need money,
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Forudsat du stadig har behov for penge,
02:40
you'll stay in the more flexible,
informal economy.
informal economy.
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bliver du i den uformelle økonomi.
02:43
The law forces you to keep selling sex,
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Lovgivningen tvinger dig til at
fortsætte med at sælge sex,
fortsætte med at sælge sex,
02:45
which is the exact opposite
of its intended effect.
of its intended effect.
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hvilket er det modsatte af den ønskede effekt.
02:49
Being criminalized leaves you exposed
to mistreatment by the state itself.
to mistreatment by the state itself.
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At være kriminaliseret tvinger dig til
at være mishandlet af staten selv.
at være mishandlet af staten selv.
02:53
In many places you may be coerced
into paying a bribe
into paying a bribe
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I mange tilfælde vil du være
tvunget til at betale bestikkelse
tvunget til at betale bestikkelse
02:56
or even into having sex
with a police officer
with a police officer
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eller endda have sex med en politimand
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to avoid arrest.
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for at undgå arrest.
03:00
Police and prison guards
in Cambodia, for example,
in Cambodia, for example,
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Politi og fængselsbetjente i Cambodia,
for eksempel,
for eksempel,
03:03
have been documented
subjecting sex workers
subjecting sex workers
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er blevet påvist at have udsat sexarbejdere for
03:05
to what can only be described as torture:
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hvad der kun kan beskrives som tortur:
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threats at gunpoint,
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Trusler med pistoler,
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beatings, electric shocks, rape
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tæsk, elektriske stød, voldtægt
03:11
and denial of food.
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og nægtelse af mad.
03:13
Another worrying thing:
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En anden bekymrende ting:
03:15
if you're selling sex in places
like Kenya, South Africa or New York,
like Kenya, South Africa or New York,
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Hvis du sælger sex steder som
Kenya, Sydafrika eller New York,
Kenya, Sydafrika eller New York,
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a police officer can arrest you
if you're caught carrying condoms,
if you're caught carrying condoms,
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en politimand kan arrestere dig
hvis du har kondomer på dig,
hvis du har kondomer på dig,
03:23
because condoms can legally be used
as evidence that you're selling sex.
as evidence that you're selling sex.
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fordi et kondom kan bruges i retten
til at bevise at du sælger sex.
til at bevise at du sælger sex.
03:27
Obviously, this increases HIV risk.
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Åbenlyst. Dette øger risikoen for HIV smitte.
03:29
Imagine knowing if you're busted
carrying condoms,
carrying condoms,
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Forestil dig du er arresteret,
mens du har kondomer på dig -
mens du har kondomer på dig -
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it'll be used against you.
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det vil blive brugt imod dig.
03:34
It's a pretty strong incentive
to leave them at home, right?
to leave them at home, right?
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Det er et rimeligt stærkt argument for
at lade dem blive hjemme, ikke?
at lade dem blive hjemme, ikke?
03:37
Sex workers working in these places
are forced to make a tough choice
are forced to make a tough choice
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Sexarbejdere disse steder er tvunget til
at tage nogle tunge beslutninger
at tage nogle tunge beslutninger
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between risking arrest
or having risky sex.
or having risky sex.
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mellem at risikere arrest eller have usikker sex.
03:44
What would you choose?
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Hvad vil du vælge?
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Would you pack condoms to go to work?
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Vil du tage kondomer med på arbejde?
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How about if you're worried
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Hvad hvis du er bange for
03:49
the police officer would rape you
when he got you in the van?
when he got you in the van?
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at politimanden vil voldtage dig,
når han har fået dig ind i salatfadet?
når han har fået dig ind i salatfadet?
03:53
The second approach to regulating
sex work seen in these countries
sex work seen in these countries
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Den anden tilgang til at regulere sexarbejde,
set i disse lande
set i disse lande
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is partial criminalization,
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er delvis kriminalisering,
03:58
where the buying and selling
of sex are legal,
of sex are legal,
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hvor køb og salg af sex er lovlig,
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but surrounding activities,
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men de omgivende aktiviteter,
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like brothel-keeping or soliciting
on the street, are banned.
on the street, are banned.
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som bordeldrift eller tilbyde sig på gaden,
er forbudt.
er forbudt.
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Laws like these --
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Love som disse --
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we have them in the UK and in France --
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Vi har dem i UK og Frankrig --
04:08
essentially say to us sex workers,
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siger grundlæggende til os sexarbejdere:
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"Hey, we don't mind you selling sex,
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"Hey, vi er ligeglade om I sælger sex,
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just make sure it's done
behind closed doors
behind closed doors
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bare I gør det bag lukkede døre
04:14
and all alone."
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og alene."
04:16
And brothel-keeping, by the way,
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Og bordeldrift, for i øvrigt,
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is defined as just two or more
sex workers working together.
sex workers working together.
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er defineret som to eller flere
sexarbejdere der arbejder sammen.
sexarbejdere der arbejder sammen.
04:20
Making that illegal means
that many of us work alone,
that many of us work alone,
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At gøre det illegalt betyder at
mange af os arbejder alene,
mange af os arbejder alene,
04:23
which obviously makes us
vulnerable to violent offenders.
vulnerable to violent offenders.
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hvilket naturligvis gør os
mere udsatte for voldelige overgreb.
mere udsatte for voldelige overgreb.
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But we're also vulnerable
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Men vi er også sårbare
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if we choose to break the law
by working together.
by working together.
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hvis vi vælger at bryde loven
ved at arbejde sammen.
ved at arbejde sammen.
04:31
A couple of years ago,
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For nogle år siden,
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a friend of mine was nervous
after she was attacked at work,
after she was attacked at work,
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var en af mine venner så nervøs
efter at hun var angrebet på arbejde,
efter at hun var angrebet på arbejde,
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so I said that she could see her clients
from my place for a while.
from my place for a while.
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så jeg sagde at hun kunne møde
sine kunder på mit sted for en stund.
sine kunder på mit sted for en stund.
04:39
During that time,
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I den tid,
04:40
we had another guy turn nasty.
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havde vi en anden ubehagelig fyr.
04:42
I told the guy to leave
or I'd call the police.
or I'd call the police.
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Jeg sagde han skulle skride eller
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And he looked at the two of us and said,
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jeg ringende til politiet.
04:47
"You girls can't call the cops.
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Og han kiggede på os og sagde:
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You're working together,
this place is illegal."
this place is illegal."
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"I piger kan ikke ringe til politiet.
I arbejder sammen og dette sted er ulovligt"
I arbejder sammen og dette sted er ulovligt"
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He was right.
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Og han havde ret.
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He eventually left
without getting physically violent,
without getting physically violent,
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Han skred til sidst uden at
blive fysisk voldelig.
blive fysisk voldelig.
04:56
but the knowledge
that we were breaking the law
that we were breaking the law
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Men viden om at vi bryder loven
04:58
empowered that man to threaten us.
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gjorde manden istand til at true os.
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He felt confident he'd get away with it.
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Han følte sig sikker på han kunne
slippe afsted med det.
slippe afsted med det.
05:02
The prohibition of street prostitution
also causes more harm
also causes more harm
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Forbuddet mod gadeprostitution
gør også mere skade
gør også mere skade
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than it prevents.
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end det forebygger.
05:06
Firstly, to avoid getting arrested,
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Først, for at undgå at blive arresteret,
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street workers take risks
to avoid detection,
to avoid detection,
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gadearbejdere løber risici for at undgå opdagelse
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and that means working alone
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og det betyder at arbejde alene
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or in isolated locations like dark forests
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eller på isolerede steder, som mørke skove
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where they're vulnerable to attack.
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hvor de er sårbare for angreb.
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If you're caught selling sex outdoors,
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Hvis du bliver taget i at sælge sex udendørs,
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you pay a fine.
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får du en bøde.
05:20
How do you pay that fine
without going back to the streets?
without going back to the streets?
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Hvordan kan du betale en bøde uden
at gå tilbage til gaderne for at sælge sex?
at gå tilbage til gaderne for at sælge sex?
05:23
It was the need for money
that saw you in the streets
that saw you in the streets
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Det var behovet for penge der
sendte dig ud på gaderne
sendte dig ud på gaderne
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in the first place.
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til at starte med.
05:26
And so the fines stack up,
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Og således hober bøderne sig op,
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and you're caught in a vicious cycle
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og du er fanget i en ond cirkel
05:30
of selling sex to pay the fines
you got for selling sex.
you got for selling sex.
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af at sælge sex for at betale bøder,
som du får for at sælge sex.
som du får for at sælge sex.
05:34
Let me tell you about Mariana Popa
who worked in Redbridge, East London.
who worked in Redbridge, East London.
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Lad mig fortælle om Mariana Popa,
som arbejdede i Red Bridge, East London
som arbejdede i Red Bridge, East London
05:37
The street workers on her patch
would normally wait for clients in groups
would normally wait for clients in groups
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Gadearbejderne på hendes sted vil
normal vente på kunder i grupper
normal vente på kunder i grupper
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for safety in numbers
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på grund af den fælles sikkerhed
05:42
and to warn each other about how
to avoid dangerous guys.
to avoid dangerous guys.
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og for at advare hinanden om
hvordan man undgår farlige fyrer.
hvordan man undgår farlige fyrer.
05:46
But during a police crackdown
on sex workers and their clients,
on sex workers and their clients,
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Men under en politikampagne
mod sexarbejdere og deres kunder,
mod sexarbejdere og deres kunder,
05:49
she was forced to work alone
to avoid being arrested.
to avoid being arrested.
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var hun tvunget til at arbejde alene
fora t undgå arrestation.
fora t undgå arrestation.
05:53
She was stabbed to death
in the early hours of October 29, 2013.
in the early hours of October 29, 2013.
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Hun blev stukket ihjel
i de tidlige timer den 29. Oktober, 2013.
i de tidlige timer den 29. Oktober, 2013.
05:58
She had been working later than usual
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Hun havde arbejdet senere end hun plejede
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to try to pay off a fine
she had received for soliciting.
she had received for soliciting.
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for at betale af på en bøde
hun havde fået for at trække.
hun havde fået for at trække.
06:03
So if criminalizing
sex workers hurts them,
sex workers hurts them,
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Så hvis kriminalisering af
sexarbejdere skader dem,
sexarbejdere skader dem,
06:06
why not just criminalize
the people who buy sex?
the people who buy sex?
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hvorfor så ikke kriminalisere
de mennesker der køber sex?
de mennesker der køber sex?
06:09
This is the aim of the third approach
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Dette er målet med den tredje tilgang
06:11
I want to talk about --
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som jeg vil tale om --
06:12
the Swedish or Nordic
model of sex-work law.
model of sex-work law.
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den svenske eller nordiske
model for sexarbejde-lovgivning.
model for sexarbejde-lovgivning.
06:15
The idea behind this law
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Ideen bag denne lov
06:16
is that selling sex
is intrinsically harmful
is intrinsically harmful
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er at sælge sex er i sig selv skadende
06:18
and so you're, in fact, helping
sex workers by removing the option.
sex workers by removing the option.
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og så man hjælper sexarbejderne ved
at fjerne denne mulighed.
at fjerne denne mulighed.
06:22
Despite growing support
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Trods stigende støtte
06:24
for what's often described
as the "end demand" approach,
as the "end demand" approach,
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for hvad der er betegnet som
"slut -fterspørgsel" tilgangen
"slut -fterspørgsel" tilgangen
06:26
there's no evidence that it works.
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er der ikke nogen evidens for at det virker.
06:28
There's just as much prostitution
in Sweden as there was before.
in Sweden as there was before.
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Der er ligeså meget prostitution i
Sverige som der var før.
Sverige som der var før.
06:31
Why might that be?
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Hvordan kan det være?
06:34
It's because people selling sex
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Fordi folk sælger sex
06:35
often don't have other options for income.
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ofte ikke har andre muligheder for en indkomst.
06:37
If you need that money,
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Hvis du behøver penge,
06:38
the only effect that a drop
in business is going have
in business is going have
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så er den eneste effekt en
mindre efterspørgsel vil have
mindre efterspørgsel vil have
06:41
is to force you to lower your prices
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er at du er tvunget til at sænke dine priser
06:43
or offer more risky sexual services.
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eller tilbyde mere risikofyldte seksuelle ydelser.
06:45
If you need to find more clients,
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Hvis du skal finde flere kunder,
06:47
you might seek the help of a manager.
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er en mulighed at få hjælp fra en bestyrer.
06:49
So you see, rather than putting a stop
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Som I ser, snarer end at lave et stop
06:51
to what's often descried as pimping,
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for det som ofte er beskrevet som alfonseri,
06:52
a law like this actually gives oxygen
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vil en lov som denne faktisk give ilt
06:54
to potentially abusive third parties.
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til potentielle udbyttende tredjeparter.
06:57
To keep safe in my work,
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For at have sikkerhed i mit arbejde,
06:59
I try not to take bookings from someone
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prøver jeg ikke at tage opgaver fra nogen
07:01
who calls me from a withheld number.
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som ringer til mig fra et hemmeligt nummer.
07:03
If it's a home or a hotel visit,
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Hvis det er et hjemme- eller hotelbesøg,
07:05
I try to get a full name and details.
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prøver jeg at få det fulde navn og detaljer.
07:07
If I worked under the Swedish model,
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Hvis jeg arbejde under den svenske model,
07:09
a client would be too scared
to give me that information.
to give me that information.
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vil en kunde være for skræmt til
at give mig den information.
at give mig den information.
07:12
I might have no other choice
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Jeg vil ikke have andre muligheder
07:14
but to accept a booking
from a man who is untraceable
from a man who is untraceable
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end at acceptere end opgave fra
en mand som ikke er sporbar
en mand som ikke er sporbar
07:17
if he later turns out to be violent.
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hvis han senere bliver voldelig.
07:19
If you need their money,
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Hvis du har behov for deres penge,
07:21
you need to protect
your clients from the police.
your clients from the police.
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så må du beskytte dine kunder for politiet.
07:23
If you work outdoors,
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Hvis du arbejder udendørs,
07:24
that means working alone
or in isolated locations,
or in isolated locations,
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betyder det at du må arbejde alene
og på isolerede steder,
og på isolerede steder,
07:27
just as if you were criminalized yourself.
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ligesom du selv var kriminaliseret.
07:29
It might mean getting into cars quicker,
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Det betyder at du skal ind i bilen hurtigere,
07:32
less negotiating time
means snap decisions.
means snap decisions.
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mindre forhandlingstid, det betyder
forhastede beslutninger,
forhastede beslutninger,
07:35
Is this guy dangerous or just nervous?
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er denne fyr farlig eller er han bare nervøs?
07:38
Can you afford to take the risk?
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Kan du tillade dig at tage risikoen?
07:40
Can you afford not to?
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kan du lade være?
07:43
Something I'm often hearing is,
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En ting jeg ofte hører er,
07:45
"Prostitution would be fine
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"Prostitution er være ok
07:46
if we made it legal and regulated it."
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hvis vi gjorde det legalt og regulerede det."
07:48
We call that approach legalization,
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Vi kalder den tilgang for legalisering,
07:50
and it's used by countries
like the Netherlands, Germany
like the Netherlands, Germany
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og den er brugt af lande som
Holland, Tyskland
Holland, Tyskland
07:53
and Nevada in the US.
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og Nevada i USA.
07:55
But it's not a great
model for human rights.
model for human rights.
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Men det er ikke nogen fin model
for menneskerettigheder.
for menneskerettigheder.
07:57
And in state-controlled prostitution,
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Og under statskontrolleret prostitution,
07:59
commercial sex can only happen
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kan kommerciel sex kun foregå
08:01
in certain legally-designated
areas or venues,
areas or venues,
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på bestemte lovgivne arealer eller steder,
08:03
and sex workers are made to comply
with special restrictions,
with special restrictions,
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og sexarbejdere skal overholde
specielle restriktioner,
specielle restriktioner,
08:06
like registration
and forced health checks.
and forced health checks.
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så som registrering og tvungne helbredstjek.
08:10
Regulation sounds great on paper,
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Regulering lyder fint på papiret,
08:12
but politicians deliberately make
regulation around the sex industry
regulation around the sex industry
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men politikere gør med vilje
reguleringerne omkring sexindustrien
reguleringerne omkring sexindustrien
08:15
expensive and difficult to comply with.
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dyre og svære at overholde.
08:18
It creates a two-tiered system:
legal and illegal work.
legal and illegal work.
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Det skaber et to-lags system:
legalt og illegalt arbejde.
legalt og illegalt arbejde.
08:22
We sometimes call it
"backdoor criminalization."
"backdoor criminalization."
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Vi kalder det nogen gange
kriminalisering ad bagdøren.
kriminalisering ad bagdøren.
08:25
Rich, well-connected brothel owners
can comply with the regulations,
can comply with the regulations,
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Rige bordelejere med forbindelserne i orden
kan overholde reguleringerne,
kan overholde reguleringerne,
08:29
but more marginalized people
find those hoops
find those hoops
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men mere marginaliserede folk
finder disse forhindringer
finder disse forhindringer
08:31
impossible to jump through.
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umulige at komme over.
08:33
And even if it's possible in principle,
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Og selvom det er muligt i princippet,
08:35
getting a license or proper venue
takes time and costs money.
takes time and costs money.
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at få en licens eller et ordentligt sted
tager tid og koster penge.
tager tid og koster penge.
08:38
It's not going to be an option
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Det er ikke en mulighed for
08:39
for someone who's desperate
and needs money tonight.
and needs money tonight.
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for en som er desperat og
skal bruge penge i aften.
skal bruge penge i aften.
08:42
They might be a refugee
or fleeing domestic abuse.
or fleeing domestic abuse.
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Det kan være en flygtning eller
på flugt fra hjemligt misbrug.
på flugt fra hjemligt misbrug.
08:45
In this two-tiered system,
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I dette tolags-system,
08:46
the most vulnerable people
are forced to work illegally,
are forced to work illegally,
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er det mest sårbare mennesker
tvunget til at arbejde illegalt,
tvunget til at arbejde illegalt,
08:50
so they're still exposed to all
the dangers of criminalization
the dangers of criminalization
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så de er stadigvæk udsat for alle
farerne fra kriminaliseringen
farerne fra kriminaliseringen
08:53
I mentioned earlier.
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som jeg nævnte før.
08:54
So.
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Så.
08:55
It's looking like all attempts to control
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Det ser ud til at alle forsøg på kontrol
08:57
or prevent sex work from happening
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eller forhindring af sexarbejde i at finde sted
08:59
makes things more dangerous
for people selling sex.
for people selling sex.
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kun gør det mere farligt for folk at sælge sex.
09:02
Fear of law enforcement makes them
work alone in isolated locations,
work alone in isolated locations,
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Frygt for ordensmagten får dem
til at arbejde på isolerede steder,
til at arbejde på isolerede steder,
09:06
and allows clients and even cops
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og tillader deres kunder og selv politiet
09:07
to get abusive in the knowledge
they'll get away with it.
they'll get away with it.
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til at misbruges dem og få lov
til at slippe afsted med det.
til at slippe afsted med det.
09:10
Fines and criminal records force
people to keep selling sex,
people to keep selling sex,
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Bøder og plettede straffeattester tvinger
folk til at blive ved med at sælge sex
folk til at blive ved med at sælge sex
09:13
rather than enabling them to stop.
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snarer end at få dem til at stoppe.
09:16
Crackdowns on buyers drive sellers
to take dangerous risks
to take dangerous risks
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At slå ned på købere driver
sælgerne til at tage farlige risici
sælgerne til at tage farlige risici
09:19
and into the arms
of potentially abusive managers.
of potentially abusive managers.
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og tvinger dem i armene på
potentielle misbrugende alfonser.
potentielle misbrugende alfonser.
09:21
These laws also reinforce stigma
and hatred against sex workers.
and hatred against sex workers.
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Disse love øger også stigmatiseringen
af og hadet mod sexarbejdere.
af og hadet mod sexarbejdere.
09:25
When France temporarily brought in
the Swedish model two years ago,
the Swedish model two years ago,
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Da Frankrig midlertidigt indførte
den svenske model for to år siden,
den svenske model for to år siden,
09:28
ordinary citizens took it as a cue
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tog almindelige mennesker det som en opfordring
09:30
to start carrying out vigilante attacks
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til at udføre overfald på
09:32
against people working on the street.
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folk der arbejde på gaderne.
09:34
In Sweden, opinion surveys show
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I Sverige, meningsmålinger viser, at en
09:36
that significantly more people want
sex workers to be arrested now
sex workers to be arrested now
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betydelig større andel af befolkningen
ønsker sexarbejdere arresterede nu
ønsker sexarbejdere arresterede nu
09:40
than before the law was brought in.
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end før lovgivningen blev vedtaget.
09:43
If prohibition is this harmful,
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Hvis forbud er skadelig,
09:45
you might ask, why it so popular?
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kan du spørge, hvorfor er den så populær?
09:48
Firstly, sex work is and always
has been a survival strategy
has been a survival strategy
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For det første, sexarbejde er og
har altid været en overlevelsesstrategi
har altid været en overlevelsesstrategi
09:51
for all kinds of unpopular
minority groups:
minority groups:
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for alle typer af upopulære minoritetsgrupper:
09:54
people of color,
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farvede folk,
09:55
migrants,
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migranter,
09:57
people with disabilities,
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folk med handicaps,
09:58
LGBTQ people,
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LGBTQ folk,
09:59
particularly trans women.
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særligt transkvinder.
10:01
These are the groups most heavily profiled
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Disse grupper er de kraftigst overvågede
10:04
and punished through prohibitionist law.
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og straffede gennem forbudslove.
10:06
I don't think this is an accident.
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Jeg tror ikke at dette er et tilfælde.
10:08
These laws have political support
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Disse love har politisk opbakning
10:10
precisely because they target people
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præcist fordi de er målrettede folk
10:12
that voters don't want
to see or know about.
to see or know about.
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som vælgerne ikke ønsker.
10:16
Why else might people support prohibition?
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Hvorfor skulle de ellers støtte forbud?
10:19
Well, lots of people have
understandable fears about trafficking.
understandable fears about trafficking.
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Well, mange folk har forståelig
frygt for trafficking.
frygt for trafficking.
10:23
Folks think that foreign women
kidnapped and sold into sexual slavery
kidnapped and sold into sexual slavery
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Folk tænker at fremmede kvinder
er kidnappede og solgt som sexslaver
er kidnappede og solgt som sexslaver
10:27
can be saved by shutting
a whole industry down.
a whole industry down.
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kan blive reddet ved at lukke hele industrien ned.
10:30
So let's talk about trafficking.
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Så lad os tale om trafficking.
10:33
Forced labor does occur
in many industries,
in many industries,
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Tvunget arbejde finder sted i mange industrier,
10:36
especially those where the workers
are migrants or otherwise vulnerable,
are migrants or otherwise vulnerable,
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specielt dem hvor arbejderne er
migranter eller på anden vis sårbare,
migranter eller på anden vis sårbare,
10:40
and this needs to be addressed.
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og dette skal der gøres noget ved.
10:42
But it's best addressed with legislation
targeting those specific abuses,
targeting those specific abuses,
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Men det gøres bedst ved at målrette
lovgivningen mod disse specifikke misbrug,
lovgivningen mod disse specifikke misbrug,
10:46
not an entire industry.
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ikke mod en hel industri.
10:48
When 23 undocumented Chinese migrants
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Da 23 ukendte kinesiske migranter
10:51
drowned while picking cockles
in Morecambe Bay in 2004,
in Morecambe Bay in 2004,
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druknede mens de samlede muslinger
i Morescambe Bay i 2004,
i Morescambe Bay i 2004,
10:54
there were no calls to outlaw
the entire seafood industry
the entire seafood industry
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var der ikke noget krav om at forbyde
hele seafood industrien
hele seafood industrien
10:57
to save trafficking victims.
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for at redde traffickede ofre.
10:59
The solution is clearly to give
workers more legal protections,
workers more legal protections,
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Løsningen er tydeligvis at give arbejderne
mere lovgivningsmæssig beskyttelse,
mere lovgivningsmæssig beskyttelse,
11:02
allowing them to resist abuse
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som giver dem mulighed for at modstå misbrug
11:04
and report it to authorities
without fear of arrest.
without fear of arrest.
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og rapportere til myndighederne
uden frygt for arrestation.
uden frygt for arrestation.
11:07
The way the term trafficking
is thrown around
is thrown around
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Måden hvorpå ordet trafficking bruges
11:09
implies that all undocumented
migration into prostitution is forced.
migration into prostitution is forced.
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indikere at al udokumenteret migration
til prostitution er tvungen.
til prostitution er tvungen.
11:14
In fact, many migrants
have made a decision,
have made a decision,
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faktisk, mange migranter har taget en beslutning,
11:17
out of economic need,
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ud fra økonomiske behov,
11:18
to place themselves into the hands
of people smugglers.
of people smugglers.
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for at putte dem i hænderne på menneskesmuglere.
11:21
Many do this with the full knowledge
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Mange af disse gør det med fuld vidende
11:23
that they'll be selling sex
when they reach their destination.
when they reach their destination.
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at de skal sælge sex når de kommer frem til deres mål.
11:26
And yes, it can often be the case
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Og ja, det kan ofte være tilfældet
11:28
that these people smugglers
demand exorbitant fees,
demand exorbitant fees,
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at disse menneskesmuglere
tager eksorbitante priser,
tager eksorbitante priser,
11:31
coerce migrants into work
they don't want to do
they don't want to do
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2904
tvinger migranter til arbejde
de ikke ønsker at lave
de ikke ønsker at lave
11:34
and abuse them when they're vulnerable.
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og misbruger dem mens de er sårbare.
11:36
That's true of prostitution,
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Det er rigtigt for prostitution,
11:37
but it's also true of agricultural work,
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men det er også rigtigt
for arbejde i landbruget,
for arbejde i landbruget,
11:39
hospitality work and domestic work.
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service- og rengøringsjobs.
11:42
Ultimately, nobody wants
to be forced to do any kind of work,
to be forced to do any kind of work,
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I sidste ende ønsker ingen at udføre
et arbejde man er tvunget til,
et arbejde man er tvunget til,
11:46
but that's a risk many migrants
are willing to take,
are willing to take,
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men det er en risiko som mange
migranter er villige til at tage,
migranter er villige til at tage,
11:48
because of what they're leaving behind.
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1870
på grund af det som de forlader.
11:50
If people were allowed to migrate legally
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Hvis folk kunne migrere legalt
11:52
they wouldn't have to place their lives
into the hands of people smugglers.
into the hands of people smugglers.
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ville de ikke have behov for at lægge
deres liv i hænderne på menneskesmuglere.
deres liv i hænderne på menneskesmuglere.
11:56
The problems arise
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Disse problemer stiger
11:57
from the criminalization of migration,
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fra kriminaliseringen af migration,
11:59
just as they do from the criminalization
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ligesom de gør fra kriminaliseringen
12:01
of sex work itself.
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af sexarbejde i sig selv.
12:02
This is a lesson of history.
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Det er en lære af historien.
12:03
If you try to prohibit something
that people want or need to do,
that people want or need to do,
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Hvis du prøver at forbyde noget som
mennesker ønsker eller har behov for at gøre,
mennesker ønsker eller har behov for at gøre,
12:07
whether that's drinking alcohol
or crossing borders
or crossing borders
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hvad enten det er at drikke alkohol eller krydse grænser
12:11
or getting an abortion
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eller få en abort
12:12
or selling sex,
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eller sælge sex,
12:14
you create more problems than you solve.
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skaber du flere problemer end du løser.
12:16
Prohibition barely makes a difference
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Forbud laver en minimal forskel
12:18
to the amount of people
actually doing those things.
actually doing those things.
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på antallet af folk som faktisk gør disse ting.
12:20
But it makes a huge difference
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Men det gør en stor forskel
12:22
as to whether or not
they're safe when they do them.
they're safe when they do them.
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om det er sikkert eller ej for dem at gøre det.
12:25
Why else might people support prohibition?
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Hvorfor støtter folk eller forbud?
12:28
As a feminist, I know
that the sex industry is a site
that the sex industry is a site
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Som feminist, ved jeg at sexindustrien er et sted
12:32
of deeply entrenched social inequality.
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med dybe sociale kløfter.
12:35
It's a fact that most buyers of sex
are men with money,
are men with money,
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Det er et faktum at de fleste købere
af sex er mænd med penge,
af sex er mænd med penge,
12:38
and most sellers are women without.
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mens de fleste sælgere er kvinder uden.
12:40
You can agree with all that -- I do --
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Du kan være enig med dette -- jeg er --
12:43
and still think prohibition
is a terrible policy.
is a terrible policy.
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og stadigvæk syntes at forbud
er en forfærdelig politik.
er en forfærdelig politik.
12:46
In a better, more equal world,
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I den bedre mere lige verden,
12:48
maybe there would be far fewer
people selling sex to survive,
people selling sex to survive,
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vil der måske være betydeligt færre
folk der sælger sex for at overleve,
folk der sælger sex for at overleve,
12:52
but you can't simply legislate
a better world into existence.
a better world into existence.
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men man kan ikke lovgive en
bedre verden ud af det blå.
bedre verden ud af det blå.
12:56
If someone needs to sell sex
because they're poor
because they're poor
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Hvis nogen har behov for at
sælge sex fordi de er fattige
sælge sex fordi de er fattige
12:58
or because they're homeless
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eller fordi de er hjemløse
13:00
or because they're undocumented
and they can't find legal work,
and they can't find legal work,
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eller fordi de er illegale og
ikke kan finde lovligt arbejde,
ikke kan finde lovligt arbejde,
13:03
taking away that option
doesn't make them any less poor
doesn't make them any less poor
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at tage muligheden fra dem
gør dem ikke mindre fattige
gør dem ikke mindre fattige
13:06
or house them
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eller giver dem husly
13:08
or change their immigration status.
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eller ændrer deres immigrationsstatus
13:10
People worry that selling
sex is degrading.
sex is degrading.
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Folk der er bekymrede over at
salg af sex er nedværdigende.
salg af sex er nedværdigende.
13:13
Ask yourself: is it more degrading
than going hungry
than going hungry
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Spørg dig selv: Er det mere nedværdigende
end at være sulten
end at være sulten
13:16
or seeing your children go hungry?
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eller se sine børn være sultne?
13:19
There's no call to ban rich people
from hiring nannies
from hiring nannies
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Der er intet krav om et forbud mod au pair-piger
13:22
or getting manicures,
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eller at få manicure,
13:23
even though most of the people
doing that labor are poor, migrant women.
doing that labor are poor, migrant women.
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selvom de fleste af dem som udfører dette
arbejde er fattige kvindelige migrantarbejdere.
arbejde er fattige kvindelige migrantarbejdere.
13:27
It's the fact of poor migrant women
selling sex specifically
selling sex specifically
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Det er specielt det faktum at det er
fattige migrant kvinder sælger sex
fattige migrant kvinder sælger sex
13:31
that has some feminists uncomfortable.
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som har gjort nogle feminister utrygge.
13:34
And I can understand
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Og jeg kan forstå
13:35
why the sex industry provokes
strong feelings.
strong feelings.
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hvorfor sexindustrien provokere så stærke følelser.
13:38
People have all kinds
of complicated feelings
of complicated feelings
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Folk kan have alle slags komplicerede følelser
13:41
when it comes to sex.
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når det kommer til sex
13:43
But we can't make policy
on the basis of mere feelings,
on the basis of mere feelings,
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Men vi kan ikke lave politik på basis af blot følelser,
13:46
especially not over
the heads of the people
the heads of the people
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specielt over hovederne på de folk
13:48
actually effected by those policies.
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som faktisk er påvirket af disse politiker.
13:50
If we get fixated on
the abolition of sex work,
the abolition of sex work,
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Hvis vi bliver fikseret på forbud mod sexarbejde
13:53
we end up worrying more
about a particular manifestation
about a particular manifestation
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ender vi med at bekymre os mere
om en bestemt manifestation
om en bestemt manifestation
13:55
of gender inequality,
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af ulighed mellem kønnene,
13:57
rather than about the underlying causes.
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snarer end de underliggende årsager.
14:00
People get really hung up on the question,
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Folk bliver hængt op på spørgsmålet om
14:02
"Well, would you want
your daughter doing it?"
your daughter doing it?"
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Nå vil du ønske at din datter gjorde?
14:05
That's the wrong question.
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Det er et forkert spørgsmål.
14:07
Instead, imagine she is doing it.
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I stedet lad os forestille os at hun gør det:
14:10
How safe is she at work tonight?
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Hvor sikkert er hendes arbejde i nat?
14:13
Why isn't she safer?
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hvorfor er hun ikke sikre?
14:16
So we've looked at full criminalization,
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så vi har kigget på fuld kriminalisering
14:19
partial criminalization,
the Swedish or Nordic Model
the Swedish or Nordic Model
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delvis kriminalisering, den svenske
eller nordiske model
eller nordiske model
14:22
and legalization,
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og legalisering,
14:23
and how they all cause harm.
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og hvordan at de alle laver skader.
14:25
Something I never hear asked is:
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Noget som jeg aldrig hører spurgt er:
14:28
"What do sex workers want?"
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Hvad ønsker sexarbejdere selv?
14:31
After all, we're the ones
most affected by these laws.
most affected by these laws.
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Alt i alt, vi er dem som bliver
mest påvirket af disse love.
mest påvirket af disse love.
14:35
New Zealand decriminalized
sex work in 2003.
sex work in 2003.
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New Zealand afkriminaliserede
sexarbejde i 2003.
sexarbejde i 2003.
14:38
It's crucial to remember
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Det er vigtigt at huske
14:40
that decriminalization and legalization
are not the same thing.
are not the same thing.
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at afkriminalisering og legalisering ikke er den samme ting.
14:43
Decriminalization means
the removal of laws
the removal of laws
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Afkriminalisering betyder fjernelse af love
14:46
that punitively target the sex industry,
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som straffer målrettet sexindustrien,
14:48
instead treating sex work
much like any other kind of work.
much like any other kind of work.
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i stedet for at behandle sexarbejde
som en anden type arbejde.
som en anden type arbejde.
14:52
In New Zealand, people
can work together for safety,
can work together for safety,
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I New Zealand, folk kan arbejde sammen for sikkerhed,
14:55
and employers of sex workers
are accountable to the state.
are accountable to the state.
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og arbejdsgivere for sexarbejdere er
ansvarlige overfor staten.
ansvarlige overfor staten.
14:57
A sex worker can refuse
to see a client at any time,
to see a client at any time,
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En sexarbejder kan nægte at se en kunde til enhver tid,
15:00
for any reason,
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af hvilken som helst grund,
15:02
and 96 percent of street workers
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og 96 % af gadearbejderne
15:04
report that they feel the law
protects their rights.
protects their rights.
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siger at de føler at lovene beskytter deres rettigheder.
15:07
New Zealand hasn't actually
seen an increase
seen an increase
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New Zealand har ikke set en forøgelse
15:09
in the amount of people doing sex work,
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i antallet af folk der laver sexarbejde,
15:12
but decriminalizing it
has made it a lot safer.
has made it a lot safer.
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men afkriminaliseringen har gjort det meget sikrere
15:15
But the lesson from New Zealand
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Så lektien fra New Zealand
15:16
isn't just that its particular
legislation is good,
legislation is good,
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er ikke bare at deres lovgivning er god,
15:19
but that crucially,
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men det afgørende
15:20
it was written in collaboration
with sex workers;
with sex workers;
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er at den er skrevet i samarbejde med sexarbejdere
15:22
namely, the New Zealand
Prostitutes' Collective.
Prostitutes' Collective.
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navnlig New Zealands Prostitutes Collective.
15:25
When it came to making sex work safer,
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Når det drejer sig om at gøre sexarbejde sikre
15:27
they were ready to hear it straight
from sex workers themselves.
from sex workers themselves.
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så var der klare til at høre om det fra sexarbejderne selv.
15:31
Here in the UK,
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Her i UK
15:32
I'm part of sex worker-led groups
like the Sex Worker Open University
like the Sex Worker Open University
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er jeg en del af en sexarbejder ledet gruppe
som Sex Workers Open University
som Sex Workers Open University
15:35
and the English Collective of Prostitutes.
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og English Collective of Prostitutes
15:37
And we form part of a global movement
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Og vi er en del af en global bevægelse
15:39
demanding decriminalization
and self-determination.
and self-determination.
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der kræver afkriminalisering
og selvbestemmelse.
og selvbestemmelse.
15:43
The universal symbol of our movement
is the red umbrella.
is the red umbrella.
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Det universelle symbol på vores
bevægelse er en rød paraply.
bevægelse er en rød paraply.
15:46
We're supported in our demands
by global bodies like UNAIDS,
by global bodies like UNAIDS,
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Vi er støttet i vores krav af globale
organisationer som UNAIDS,
organisationer som UNAIDS,
15:49
the World Health Organization
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Verdens sundhedsorganisationen
15:51
and Amnesty International.
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og Amnesty international.
15:52
But we need more allies.
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Men vi har behov for flere allierede.
15:55
If you care about gender equality
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Hvis du bekymrer dig om kønslig ligestilling
15:57
or poverty or migration or public health,
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eller fattigdom eller migration
eller offentlig sundhed,
eller offentlig sundhed,
16:00
then sex worker rights matter to you.
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så er rettigheder for sexarbejdere en sag for dig.
16:03
Make space for us in your movements.
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Gør plads til os i jeres bevægelser.
16:05
That means not only listening
to sex workers when we speak
to sex workers when we speak
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Dette betyder ikke bare at lytte
til sexarbejdere når vi taler
til sexarbejdere når vi taler
16:08
but amplifying our voices.
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men at forstærke vores stemmer.
16:11
Resist those who silence us,
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At stå imod dem som vil få os til at tie,
16:13
those who say that a prostitute
is either too victimized,
is either too victimized,
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dem som siger at prostituerede enten er for offer-gjorte
16:16
too damaged to know
what's best for herself,
what's best for herself,
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eller for skadede til at vide hvad der er bedst for os selv
16:19
or else too privileged
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eller er for privilegerede
16:20
and too removed from real hardship,
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og er for langt væk fra den virkelige verden,
16:23
not representative of the millions
of voiceless victims.
of voiceless victims.
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for at kunne repræsentere
millioner af stemmeløse ofre.
millioner af stemmeløse ofre.
16:27
This distinction between victim
and empowered is imaginary.
and empowered is imaginary.
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Denne skelnen mellem offer og
selvrådende er tankespind.
selvrådende er tankespind.
16:32
It exists purely to discredit sex workers
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Den eksisterer kun for
at nedgøre sexarbejdere
at nedgøre sexarbejdere
16:35
and make it easy to ignore us.
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og gør det for nemt at ignorere os.
16:37
No doubt many of you work for a living.
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Ingen tvivl om at mange af
jer arbejder for at overleve.
jer arbejder for at overleve.
16:40
Well, sex work is work, too.
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Well, sexarbejde er arbejde også.
16:42
Just like you,
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Ligesom jer
16:44
some of us like our jobs,
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mange af os kan lide vores jobs,
16:45
some of us hate them.
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nogle af os hader det.
16:47
Ultimately, most of us
have mixed feelings.
have mixed feelings.
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Og endeligt de fleste af os
har blandende følelser.
har blandende følelser.
16:51
But how we feel about our work
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Men hvordan vi føler om vores arbejde
16:54
isn't the point.
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er ikke afgørende
16:56
And how others feel
about our work certainly isn't.
about our work certainly isn't.
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og hvordan andre føler
omkring det er bestemt ikke.
omkring det er bestemt ikke.
17:00
What's important is that we have
the right to work safely
the right to work safely
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Hvad der er vigtigt er at vi har
ret til at arbejde sikkert
ret til at arbejde sikkert
17:03
and on our own terms.
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og på vores egen betingelser.
17:04
Sex workers are real people.
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sexarbejdere er rigtige mennesker.
17:06
We've had complicated experiences
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Vi har komplicerede oplevelser
17:09
and complicated responses
to those experiences.
to those experiences.
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og komplicerede effekter
af disse oplevelser.
af disse oplevelser.
17:13
But our demands are not complicated.
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men vores krav er ikke komplicerede.
17:16
You can ask expensive
escorts in New York City,
escorts in New York City,
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Du kan spørge dyre
escortpiger i New York City,
escortpiger i New York City,
17:19
brothel workers in Cambodia,
street workers in South Africa
street workers in South Africa
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bordelarbejdere i Cambodja,
gadearbejdere i Sydafrika
gadearbejdere i Sydafrika
17:22
and every girl on the roster
at my old job in Soho,
at my old job in Soho,
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og enhver pige på gaden i mit gamle job i Soho,
17:25
and they will all tell you the same thing.
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og de vil alle sige den samme ting.
17:27
You can speak to millions of sex workers
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Du kan tale til millioner af sexarbejdere
17:30
and countless sex work-led organizations.
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og utallige sexarbejder-ledede organisationer.
17:32
We want full decriminalization
and labor rights as workers.
and labor rights as workers.
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Vi ønsker fuld afkriminalisering
og rettigheder som arbejdere.
og rettigheder som arbejdere.
17:36
I'm just one sex worker
on the stage today,
on the stage today,
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Jeg er bare en sexarbejder på scenen her i dag,
17:39
but I'm bringing a message
from all over the world.
from all over the world.
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men jeg bringer et budskab fra hele verdenen.
17:41
Thank you.
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Mange tak.
17:43
(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Juno Mac - Sex worker and activistJuno Mac campaigns for better working conditions for sex workers by fighting criminalization and supporting public education projects around issues relating to sex worker rights.
Why you should listen
Juno Mac is a sex worker and activist with the Sex Worker Open University (SWOU), a sex worker-led collective with branches in London, Leeds and Glasgow. SWOU is focussed on advocacy, campaigning, cultural events and community support for sex workers.
Through their organizing, SWOU activists support each other through stigma and isolation, demand better working conditions by fighting criminalization and provide public education around issues relating to sex worker rights. Mac's activist work with SWOU has included delivering workshops in universities, political lobbying and campaigning, consulting with human rights organisations (including Amnesty International), appearances on radio and TV, and taking part in public panel discussions at festivals and conferences.
Mac has also curated an exhibition of sex worker art, contributed to magazines and a live storytelling night, facilitated skill-sharing and support spaces for fellow sex workers, and helped to organise SWOU's Open Conference of The Advancement of Sex Worker Rights 2015.
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