Emily Nagoski: How couples can sustain a strong sexual connection for a lifetime
에밀리 나고스키(Emily Nagoski): 부부가 강한 성적 교감을 오랫 동안 유지하는 방법
Emily Nagoski teaches women to live with confidence and joy inside their bodies. Full bio
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with a couple of friends --
but very sleep-deprived.
착하지만 항상 잠이 부족했죠.
I get asked more than any other question.
사실 제가 가장 많이 받는 질문인데요.
sustain a strong sexual connection
성적 교감을 유지하지?
my friends ask me questions like this,
그래서 이런 질문을 많이 받죠.
굉장한 괴짜입니다.
I can give them something like an answer.
그래서 저는 이런 답을 주었죠.
pretty solid evidence
연구 결과가 있는데
strong sexual connections
what those two things are,
that they are not.
이야기해야 했죠.
who have sex very often.
부부가 아닙니다.
성관계를 할 시간이 없죠.
have wild, adventurous sex.
성관계를 하는 부부도 아닙니다.
who are most strongly predicted
가질 것이라 예상되는
and relationship satisfaction,
하지 않느냐였습니다.
to keep their hands off each other.
call "spontaneous desire,"
"자발적인 욕망"을 경험합니다.
to appear out of the blue.
나타나는 기분이죠.
who illustrated my book,
에리카 모엔 씨는
as a lightning bolt to the genitals --
번개 그림으로 표현하였습니다.
out of the blue.
healthy way to experience sexual desire.
건강한 성적 욕망입니다.
to experience sexual desire.
또 다른 방법이 있습니다.
to emerge in anticipation of pleasure,
예측할 수 있기 때문에 나타나지만
in response to pleasure.
반응하기에 나타납니다.
named Christine Hyde,
크리스틴 하이드씨는
she uses with her clients.
은유적 표현을 알려주었습니다.
invites you to a party.
파티에 초대했다고 상상해 보세요.
it's your best friend and a party.
당신은 참석하기로 했습니다.
you start thinking,
이런 생각이 들기 시작하죠.
to put my party clothes on
and you show up to the party,
파티에 참석합니다.
it's the same thing.
touch your partner's skin
to wake up and remember,
who sustain a strong sexual connection
부부들을 이해하는데 핵심적인 것이죠.
where I tell my friends
do sustain a strong sexual connection --
부부의 두 가지 특징은
at the foundation of their relationship.
우정으로 이루어져 있다는 겁니다.
해보라고 합니다.
present and available for me?
옆에 있어 주는 존재입니다.
is that they prioritize sex.
중요시 한다는 겁니다.
for their relationship.
중요한 역할을 한다고 생각하죠.
things that they could be doing --
and the jobs they could be going to,
해야할 일을 한다거나,
to pay attention to,
want to hang out with.
to watch some television or go to sleep.
그냥 잠이 들 수도 있지만
and create a protected space
본인들만의 공간을 만들어
is put your body in the bed
시간을 만든다는 것이죠.
touch your partner's skin.
I told them about the party,
파티 이야기를 해줬죠.
next to your partner's skin.
I was talking to goes, "Aaagh."
"으아아"이라고 하더군요.
so, there's your problem."
want to go to the party, necessarily.
싫은 것이 아니라
of spontaneous desire for party,
즉흥적 욕구 부족이죠.
and show up for the party.
파티에 참석합니다.
you're doing it right.
당신은 올바른 결정을 한 거죠.
what there was available to eat,
about her relationships with people
come to dread sex.
성관계 결핍이 올 수 있죠.
between their bodies as they need
will make 20 feet of space.
6미터 정도의 거리를 둘 겁니다.
is that space is not empty.
온갖 감정들로 가득하다는 것입니다.
아니 그보다 훨씬 더 많이
but your criticism isn't helping,"
당신의 비판적인 시선 때문에,
and, "You're not there for me."
들어줄 텐데, 내 옆에 있을 텐데."
these difficult feelings.
생각으로부터 만들어진거죠.
this really silly metaphor
표현하기 위해
졸린 고슴도치라고 표현했습니다.
you can find a way to set them free
스스로 길을 찾아갈 수 있도록
with kindness and compassion.
돌봐야 하는 대상인 거죠.
to maintain a strong sexual connection,
어려운 부부들은
is crowded with these sleepy hedgehogs.
고슴도치들로 가득합니다.
that lasts long enough.
어느 부부에게서나 나타날 수 있죠.
a prickle of sleepy hedgehogs
당신과 당신의 특별한 사람 사이에
special someone.
키우고 있을지도 모릅니다.
who sustain a strong sexual connection
these difficult hurt feelings,
겪지 않은 것이 아니라
those difficult feelings
친절함과 연민의 마음을
with the question under the question,
a strong connection?"
라는 질문이 아닌
라는 질문요.
to answer this question,
과학적인 정답이 있습니다.
is sometimes, Emily,
the science of women's sexual well-being.
책을 쓰면서
all day, every day,
that I had zero -- zero! -- interest
이러한 프로젝트를 맡아서
많이 받았다고 털어놨죠.
traveling all over,
여행을 하기 시작했습니다.
of women's sexual well-being.
이야기하기 시작했죠.
put my body in the bed,
잠잘 준비를 했습니다.
맞닿을 수 있게요.
I would just cry and fall asleep.
잠들고 싶은 마음밖에 없었죠.
fostered fear and loneliness
몇 달 동안 고립된 생활을 하고
I love and admire,
저의 가장 친한 친구는
있는 것 처럼 느껴졌죠.
difficult feelings there were,
with kindness and compassion.
친절함과 연민을 보여줬죠.
a strong sexual connection?
무엇인지 기억하시나요?
for their relationship,
to find their way back to the connection.
그들은 무엇이든 하기로 했죠.
and researcher Peggy Kleinplatz says.
페기 클렌프라츠가 한 말을 전했습니다.
is worth wanting?
갈망할 가치가 있는가? "
at the quality of our connection
관계의 질에 대해 생각해 봤어요.
of sleepy hedgehogs
고슴도치들에 대해 생각해 봤죠.
여러 가지 감정들 말이에요.
what it took to find our way,
저희만의 방법을 찾기로요.
of those sleepy hedgehogs,
so that we could find our way back
교감을 되찾기 위해서요.
for our relationship.
in long-term relationships.
자주 듣지는 못합니다.
세상 어떤 것보다 로맨틱하고
될 수 있다는 것이요.
있었음에도 불구하고
difficult feelings into our relationship.
중요하기 때문이죠.
sexual connection over the long term?
유지할 방법이요?
of your best friend,
to find your way back.
끊임없이 찾길 바랍니다.
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Emily Nagoski - Sex educatorEmily Nagoski teaches women to live with confidence and joy inside their bodies.
Why you should listen
Emily Nagoski is a sex educator and the author of the best-selling Come as You Are: The Surprising New Science that Will Transform Your Sex Life. As she writes: "As an undergrad at the University of Delaware, I wanted some volunteer work for my resume, so I got trained as a peer sex educator, going into residence halls to talk about condoms, contraception and consent. Though I loved the brain science I was studying in my classes (BA in psychology, minors in cognitive science and philosophy), it was my work as a sex educator that made me like who I am as a person. So that's the path I chose. I went to Indiana University for an MS in counseling and PhD in health behavior, completing a clinical internship at the Kinsey Institute, then went on to work at Smith College, where I taught a class called Women’s Sexuality.
"That first semester at Smith, I asked my students, as the last question on the final exam, 'What's one important thing you learned?' Half the students answered simply, 'I'm normal.' I decided that day to write Come As You Are, to share the science and sex positivity that helped my students know they're normal."
Emily Nagoski | Speaker | TED.com