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Norman Lear: An entertainment icon on living a life of meaning
Norman Lear: Ikona zábavy rozpráva o žití života, ktorý má zmysel
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V 70. rokoch (a nasledujúcich desaťročiach) ovplyvnil televízny producent Norman Lear životy miliónov ľudí prostredníctvom sitkomov „Všetko v rodine", „Jeffersonovci" a „Dobré časy" posúval hranice danej éry a dával možnosť prejaviť sa znevýhodnej skupine Američanov priamo v hlavnom vysielacom čase. V intímnom a inteligentnom rozhovore s Ericom Hirshbergom ukazuje svoju pokoru, humor a ako jeho prvé dotyky s „bláznivosťou ľudstva“ ovplyvnili jeho život a kreatívnu víziu.
Norman Lear - Producer, activist
Writer, producer and free-speech champion Norman Lear defined decades of US popular culture with his groundbreaking TV shows. Full bioEric Hirshberg - CEO, Activision
Eric Hirshberg leads Activision, one of the world's largest interactive entertainment companies. Full bio
Writer, producer and free-speech champion Norman Lear defined decades of US popular culture with his groundbreaking TV shows. Full bioEric Hirshberg - CEO, Activision
Eric Hirshberg leads Activision, one of the world's largest interactive entertainment companies. Full bio
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Eric Hirshberg: So I assume that Norman
doesn't need much of an introduction,
doesn't need much of an introduction,
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Eric Hirshberg: Predpokladám, že Norman
nepotrebuje dlhé predstavovanie,
nepotrebuje dlhé predstavovanie,
ale publikum TEDu
je globálne a rozmanité,
je globálne a rozmanité,
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but TED's audience is global,
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it's diverse,
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so I've been tasked
with starting with his bio,
with starting with his bio,
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takže som bol poverený začať
jeho biografiou,
jeho biografiou,
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which could easily take up
the entire 18 minutes.
the entire 18 minutes.
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ktorá by sama o sebe kľudne
zabrala celých 18 minút.
zabrala celých 18 minút.
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So instead we're going to do
93 years in 93 seconds or less.
93 years in 93 seconds or less.
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Takže miesto toho skúsime
vtesnať 93 rokov do 93 sekúnd alebo menej.
vtesnať 93 rokov do 93 sekúnd alebo menej.
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(Laughter)
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(smiech)
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You were born in New Hampshire.
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Narodil si sa v New Hampshire.
Norman Lear: V New Haven v Connecticute.
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Norman Lear: New Haven, Connecticut.
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EH: New Haven, Connecticut.
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EH: V New Haven v Connecticute.
00:34
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
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NL: There goes seven more seconds.
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NL: Toto nám zabralo 7 sekúnd.
00:39
EH: Nailed it.
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EH: Zaklincoval som to.
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(Laughter)
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(smiech)
00:43
You were born in New Haven, Connecticut.
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Narodil si sa v New Haven
v Connecticute.
v Connecticute.
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Your father was a con man --
I got that right.
I got that right.
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Tvoj otec bol podvodník –
toto mám správne.
toto mám správne.
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He was taken away to prison
when you were nine years old.
when you were nine years old.
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Zavreli ho do väzenia,
keď si mal 9 rokov.
keď si mal 9 rokov.
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You flew 52 missions
as a fighter pilot in World War II.
as a fighter pilot in World War II.
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V druhej svetovej vojne si odslúžil
52 misií ako bojový pilot.
52 misií ako bojový pilot.
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You came back to --
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Vrátil si sa späť –
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NL: Radio operator.
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NL: Rádio operátor.
00:56
EH: You came to LA
to break into Hollywood,
to break into Hollywood,
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EH: Prišiel si do LA,
s cieľom preraziť v Hollywoode,
s cieľom preraziť v Hollywoode,
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first in publicity, then in TV.
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najprv v publicistike, potom v televízii.
01:00
You had no training as a writer, formally,
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Nemal si žiadny formálny tréning,
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but you hustled your way in.
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ale prebojoval si sa dnu.
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Your breakthrough, your debut,
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Tvoj prelom, tvoj debut,
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was a little show
called "All in the Family."
called "All in the Family."
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bola malá show s názvom
„Všetko v rodine“.
„Všetko v rodine“.
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You followed that up with a string of hits
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Nasledovala séria úspechov,
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that to this day is unmatched
in Hollywood:
in Hollywood:
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ktorú dodnes nikto
v Hollywoode neprekonal:
v Hollywoode neprekonal:
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"Sanford and Son," "Maude," "Good Times,"
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„Sanford a syn“, „Maude“, „Dobré časy“,
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"The Jeffersons," "One Day at a Time,"
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„Jeffersonovci“, „Po jednom dni“,
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"Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman,"
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„Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman“,
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to name literally a fraction of them.
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sú len malým zlomkom z nich.
01:19
Not only are they all commercially --
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Nie sú len komerčne –
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(Applause)
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(potlesk)
01:25
Not only are they all
commercially successful,
commercially successful,
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Nie sú len komerčne úspešné,
ale mnohé z nich posunuli
našu kultúru dopredu tým,
našu kultúru dopredu tým,
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but many of them push our culture forward
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by giving the underrepresented
members of society
members of society
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že dali znevýhodneným
skupinám spoločnosti
skupinám spoločnosti
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their first prime-time voice.
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prvý raz priestor
v hlavnom vysielacom čase.
v hlavnom vysielacom čase.
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You have seven shows
in the top 10 at one time.
in the top 10 at one time.
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Mal si súčasne 7 show v rebríčku top 10.
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At one point,
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V určitom momente
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you aggregate an audience
of 120 million people per week
of 120 million people per week
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publikum 120 miliónov ľudí týždenne
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watching your content.
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sledovalo tvoje show.
01:44
That's more than the audience
for Super Bowl 50,
for Super Bowl 50,
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To je viac ako publikum Super Bowl 50,
ktoré sa vysiela raz za rok.
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which happens once a year.
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01:48
NL: Holy shit.
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NL: No do pekla.
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(Laughter)
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(smiech)
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(Applause)
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(potlesk)
01:53
EH: And we're not even
to the holy shit part.
to the holy shit part.
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EH: A to sme a ani nedostali,
k tej pekelnej časti.
k tej pekelnej časti.
01:56
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
01:57
You land yourself
on Richard Nixon's enemies list --
on Richard Nixon's enemies list --
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Dostal si sa na zoznam
nepriateľov Richarda Nixona –
nepriateľov Richarda Nixona –
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he had one.
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on jeden taký mal.
02:01
That's an applause line, too.
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To stojí za potlesk.
02:03
(Applause)
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(potlesk)
02:05
You're inducted into the TV Hall of Fame
on the first day that it exists.
on the first day that it exists.
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Dostal si sa do televíznej siene slávy
v prvý deň jej existencie.
v prvý deň jej existencie.
02:08
Then came the movies.
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Potom prišli filmy.
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"Fried Green Tomatoes,"
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„Smážané zelené paradajky“,
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"The Princess Bride," "Stand By Me,"
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„Princezná nevesta“, „Pri mne stoj!“,
„Hrá skupina Spinal Tap“.
02:14
"This Is Spinal Tap."
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02:15
(Applause)
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(potlesk)
02:16
Again, just to name a fraction.
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Znova, to je len malý zlomok.
02:17
(Applause)
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(potlesk)
02:19
Then you wipe the slate clean,
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Potom si s čistým štítom
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start a third act as a political activist
focusing on protecting the First Amendment
focusing on protecting the First Amendment
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začal kariéru politického aktivistu
zameraného na ochranu Prvého dodatku
zameraného na ochranu Prvého dodatku
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and the separation of church and state.
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a odluku cirkvi od štátu.
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You start People For The American Way.
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Založil si „Ľudia na americký spôsob“.
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You buy the Declaration of Independence
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Kupuješ Deklaráciu nezávislosti
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and give it back to the people.
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a dávaš ju naspäť ľuďom.
02:31
You stay active in both
entertainment and politics
entertainment and politics
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Zostal si aktívny
v zábavnom priemysle a politike
v zábavnom priemysle a politike
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until the ripe old of age of 93,
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až do zrelého veku 93 rokov,
02:35
when you write a book
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keď si napísal knihu
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and make a documentary
about your life story.
about your life story.
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a natočil dokument
o svojom životnom príbehu.
o svojom životnom príbehu.
02:39
And after all that,
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A po tom všetkom
02:40
they finally think
you're ready for a TED Talk.
you're ready for a TED Talk.
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si konečne pomysleli, že si
pripravený na prednášku TED.
pripravený na prednášku TED.
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(Laughter)
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(smiech)
02:44
(Applause)
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(potlesk)
02:49
NL: I love being here.
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NL: Som šťastný, že tu som.
02:51
And I love you for agreeing to do this.
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A veľmi sa mi páči,
že si s týmto súhlasil.
že si s týmto súhlasil.
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EH: Thank you for asking. It's my honor.
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EH: Ďakujem za oslovenie. Je mi cťou.
02:56
So here's my first question.
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Takže, moja prvá otázka.
02:57
Was your mother proud of you?
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Bola na teba mama hrdá?
02:59
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
03:02
NL: My mother ...
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NL: Moja mama...
03:03
what a place to start.
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to je teda začiatok.
03:06
Let me put it this way --
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Poviem to takto –
03:09
when I came back from the war,
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keď som sa vrátil z vojny,
03:10
she showed me the letters
that I had written her from overseas,
that I had written her from overseas,
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ukázala mi listy, ktoré som jej
zo zámoria napísal,
zo zámoria napísal,
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and they were absolute love letters.
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a boli to úplné ľúbosté listy.
03:21
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
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This really sums up my mother.
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Toto úplne vystihuje moju mamu.
03:25
They were love letters,
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Boli to ľúbostné listy,
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as if I had written them to --
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akoby som ich písal pre –
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they were love letters.
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boli to ľúbostné listy.
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A year later I asked my mother
if I could have them,
if I could have them,
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O rok neskôr som sa mamy spýtal,
či si ich môžem zobrať,
či si ich môžem zobrať,
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because I'd like to keep them
all the years of my life ...
all the years of my life ...
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pretože som si ich chcel navždy odložiť.
03:42
She had thrown them away.
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Ona ich vyhodila.
03:43
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
03:48
That's my mother.
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To je moja mama.
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(Laughter)
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(smiech)
03:52
The best way I can sum it up
in more recent times is --
in more recent times is --
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Najlepšie to môže zhrnúť
v nedávnej udalosti –
v nedávnej udalosti –
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this is also more recent times --
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toto je tiež nedávna udalosť –
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a number of years ago,
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pred niekoľkými rokmi,
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when they started the Hall of Fame
to which you referred.
to which you referred.
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keď vznikla Sieň slávy, ktorú si spomínal.
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It was a Sunday morning,
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Bola nedeľa ráno,
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when I got a call from the fellow who ran
the TV Academy of Arts & Sciences.
the TV Academy of Arts & Sciences.
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keď mi zavolal chlapík, ktorý riadil
Televíznu akadémiu umenia a vedy.
Televíznu akadémiu umenia a vedy.
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He was calling me to tell me
they had met all day yesterday
they had met all day yesterday
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Volal mi, aby mi povedal,
že deň predtým mali stretnutie
že deň predtým mali stretnutie
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and he was confidentially telling me
they were going to start a hall of fame
they were going to start a hall of fame
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a on mi dôverne volá, aby mi
povedal, že sa rozhodli založiť sieň slávy
povedal, že sa rozhodli založiť sieň slávy
04:21
and these were the inductees.
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a toto bol ich nábor.
04:27
I started to say "Richard Nixon,"
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Začal som hovoriť „Richard Nixon“,
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because Richard Nixon --
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pretože Richard Nixon –
EH: Nemyslím si, že on bol na ich zozname.
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EH: I don't think he was on their list.
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04:32
NL: William Paley, who started CBS,
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NL: William Paley, ktorý založil CBS,
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David Sarnoff, who started NBC,
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David Sarnoff, ktorý založil NBC,
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Edward R. Murrow,
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Edward R. Murrow,
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the greatest of the foreign
correspondents,
correspondents,
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najlepší zahraničný korešpondent,
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Paddy Chayefsky --
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Paddy Chayefsky –
myslím, že najlepší spisovateľ,
aký kedy vzišiel z televízie –
aký kedy vzišiel z televízie –
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I think the best writer
that ever came out of television --
that ever came out of television --
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04:47
Milton Berle, Lucille Ball
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Milton Berle, Lucille Ball
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and me.
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a ja.
04:51
EH: Not bad.
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EH: To neznie zle.
04:52
NL: I call my mother
immediately in Hartford, Connecticut.
immediately in Hartford, Connecticut.
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NL: Zavolal som okamžite
mojej mame do Hartfordu.
mojej mame do Hartfordu.
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"Mom, this is what's happened,
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„Mami, toto sa práve stalo,
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they're starting a hall of fame."
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zakladajú sieň slávy.“
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I tell her the list of names and me,
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Povedal som jej všetky tieto mená
05:00
and she says,
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a ona povedala:
„Počuj, ak to tak chcú, kto som ja,
aby som sa k tomu vyjadrovala?“
aby som sa k tomu vyjadrovala?“
05:01
"Listen, if that's what they
want to do, who am I to say?"
want to do, who am I to say?"
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05:03
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
05:07
(Applause)
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(potlesk)
05:10
That's my Ma.
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To je moja mama.
05:11
I think it earns that kind of a laugh
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Myslím, že si to zaslúži ten smiech,
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because everybody
has a piece of that mother.
has a piece of that mother.
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pretože každý má kúsok takejto matky.
05:15
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
05:17
EH: And the sitcom Jewish mother
is born, right there.
is born, right there.
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EH: A práve sa zrodil sitkom
Židovská matka.
Židovská matka.
05:20
So your father also played
a large role in your life,
a large role in your life,
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Tvoj otec zohrával v tvojom živote,
tiež významnú rolu,
tiež významnú rolu,
05:25
mostly by his absence.
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hlavne svojou absenciou.
05:26
NL: Yeah.
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NL: Hej.
05:28
EH: Tell us what happened
when you were nine years old.
when you were nine years old.
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EH: Povedz nám, čo sa stalo,
keď si mal 9 rokov.
keď si mal 9 rokov.
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NL: He was flying to Oklahoma
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NL: Letel do Oklahomy
s tromi chlapíkmi,
o ktorých moja mama povedala:
o ktorých moja mama povedala:
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with three guys that my mother said,
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05:37
"I don't want you to have
anything to do with them,
anything to do with them,
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„Nechcem, aby si s nimi
mal čokoľvek spoločné,
mal čokoľvek spoločné,
05:40
I don't trust those men."
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neverím im.“
05:42
That's when I heard,
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Vtedy som počul,
05:43
maybe not for the first time,
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asi nie po prvý raz:
05:44
"Stifle yourself, Jeanette, I'm going."
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„Strč sa, Jeanette, idem.“
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And he went.
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A odišiel.
05:50
It turns out he was picking up
some fake bonds,
some fake bonds,
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Ukázalo sa, že bol vyzdvihnúť,
nejaké falošné dlhopisy,
nejaké falošné dlhopisy,
05:55
which he was flying
across the country to sell.
across the country to sell.
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ktoré išiel predať
na druhú stranu krajiny.
na druhú stranu krajiny.
05:59
But the fact that he was going
to Oklahoma in a plane,
to Oklahoma in a plane,
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Ale fakt, že išiel do Oklahomy lietadlom
06:03
and he was going to bring me
back a 10-gallon hat,
back a 10-gallon hat,
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a sľúbil, že mi prinesie
10 gálonový klobúk
10 gálonový klobúk
06:07
just like Ken Maynard,
my favorite cowboy wore.
my favorite cowboy wore.
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presne ako mal Ken Maynard,
môj obľúbený kovboj.
môj obľúbený kovboj.
06:14
You know, this was a few years
after Lindbergh crossed the Atlantic.
after Lindbergh crossed the Atlantic.
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Chápete, bolo to pár rokov po tom,
čo Lindbergh prekročil oceán.
čo Lindbergh prekročil oceán.
06:19
I mean, it was exotic
that my father was going there.
that my father was going there.
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Bolo exotické, že tam môj otec išiel.
06:22
But when he came back,
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Ale keď sa vrátil,
06:24
they arrested him as he got off the plane.
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zatkli ho, hneď ako vystúpil z lietadla.
06:26
That night newspapers
were all over the house,
were all over the house,
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Večerné noviny boli všade,
06:30
my father was with his hat
in front of his face,
in front of his face,
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môj otec mal pred tvárou klobúk
06:33
manacled to a detective.
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a bol pripútaný k detektívovi.
06:35
And my mother was selling the furniture,
because we were leaving --
because we were leaving --
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A moja mama predávala nábytok,
pretože sme odchádzali –
pretože sme odchádzali –
06:39
she didn't want to stay
in that state of shame,
in that state of shame,
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nechcela tam ostať v tej hanbe,
06:43
in Chelsea, Massachusetts.
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v Chelsea v Massachussets.
06:46
And selling the furniture --
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A predaj nábytku –
06:50
the house was loaded with people.
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dom bol plný ľudí.
06:52
And in the middle of all of that,
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A uprostred toho
06:54
some strange horse's ass
put his hand on my shoulder and said,
put his hand on my shoulder and said,
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mi nejaké hovädo položilo ruku
na plecia a povedalo:
na plecia a povedalo:
07:01
"Well, you're the man of the house now."
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„Takže, teraz si pánom domu ty.“
07:04
I'm crying, and this asshole says,
"You're the man of the house now."
"You're the man of the house now."
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Plakal som a ten debil hovorí:
„Teraz si pán domu.“
„Teraz si pán domu.“
07:11
And I think that was the moment
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A myslím, že to bol moment,
07:14
I began to understand the foolishness
of the human condition.
of the human condition.
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keď som si uvedomil bláznovstvo ľudí.
07:19
So ...
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Takže...
07:22
it took a lot of years to look back at it
and feel it was a benefit.
and feel it was a benefit.
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trvalo mnoho rokov, kým som sa vedel
obzrieť a vidieť v tom pozitívum.
obzrieť a vidieť v tom pozitívum.
07:28
But --
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Ale –
07:29
EH: It's interesting
you call it a benefit.
you call it a benefit.
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EH: Je zaujímavé, že to nazývaš pozitívom.
07:31
NL: Benefit in that it gave
me that springboard.
me that springboard.
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NL: Pozitívum v tom,
že to bol odrazový mostík.
že to bol odrazový mostík.
07:34
I mean that I could think
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Myslím, že som si mohol myslieť,
07:38
how foolish it was to say
to this crying nine-year-old boy,
to this crying nine-year-old boy,
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aké blázivé to bolo, povedať
9 ročnému plačúcemu chlapcovi
9 ročnému plačúcemu chlapcovi
07:41
"You're the man of the house now."
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„Teraz si pánom domu.“
07:43
And then I was crying, and then he said,
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A keď som plakal a on povedal
07:46
"And men of the house don't cry."
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„Páni domu neplačú.“
07:49
And I ...
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A ja...
07:51
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
07:52
So ...
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Takže...
07:56
I look back, and I think
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Keď sa ohliadnem, myslím,
07:57
that's when I learned the foolishness
of the human condition,
of the human condition,
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že vtedy som sa dozvedel
o bláznovstve ľudí,
o bláznovstve ľudí,
08:02
and it's been that gift that I've used.
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a to bol dar, ktorý som využil.
08:06
EH: So you have a father who's absent,
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EH: Takže si mal otca, ktorý tam nebol,
08:08
you have a mother for whom
apparently nothing is good enough.
apparently nothing is good enough.
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mal si matku, ktorej zjavne
nič nebolo dosť dobré.
nič nebolo dosť dobré.
08:11
Do you think that starting out as a kid
who maybe never felt heard
who maybe never felt heard
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Myslíš, že to, že si ako dieťa mal pocit,
že ťa nikto nevypočul,
že ťa nikto nevypočul,
08:17
started you down a journey
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nasmerovalo to,
08:18
that ended with you being an adult
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akým človekom si sa stal
08:20
with a weekly audience
of 120 million people?
of 120 million people?
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s týždenným publikom 120 miliónov ľudí?
08:23
NL: I love the way you put that question,
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NL: Páči sa mi ako si položil tú otázku,
08:26
because I guess
I've spent my life wanting --
I've spent my life wanting --
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pretože som tuším
celý život strávil chcením –
celý život strávil chcením –
08:30
if anything, wanting to be heard.
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ak niečim, tak chcením, aby ma vypočuli.
08:36
I think --
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Myslím –
08:40
It's a simple answer, yes,
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Je to jednoduchá odpoveď, áno,
08:42
that was what sparked --
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to bolo to, čo začalo –
08:45
well, there were other things, too.
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boli tam aj iné veci.
08:47
When my father was away,
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Keď bol môj otec preč,
08:50
I was fooling with a crystal radio set
that we had made together,
that we had made together,
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hral som sa s kryštáľovou rádio súpravou,
ktorú sme spolu spravili,
ktorú sme spolu spravili,
08:56
and I caught a signal that turned out
to be Father Coughlin.
to be Father Coughlin.
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a chytil som signál otca Coughlina.
09:01
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
09:04
Yeah, somebody laughed.
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Áno, niekto sa zasmial.
09:06
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
09:07
But not funny,
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Bez srandy,
09:09
this was a horse's --
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to bolo hovädo –
09:10
another horse's ass --
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ďalšie hovädo –
09:12
who was very vocal
about hating the New Deal
about hating the New Deal
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ktorý sa netajil tým,
že nenávidel Nový údel
že nenávidel Nový údel
09:14
and Roosevelt and Jews.
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a Roosevelta a Židov.
09:18
The first time I ran into an understanding
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Prvý raz som si uvedomil,
09:21
that there were people
in this world that hated me
in this world that hated me
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že existujú ľudia, ktorí ma nenávidia,
09:24
because I was born to Jewish parents.
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pretože som sa narodil židovským rodičom.
09:27
And that had an enormous
effect on my life.
effect on my life.
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A to veľmi ovplyvnilo môj život.
09:32
EH: So you had a childhood
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EH: Takže si mal detstvo
09:34
with little in the way
of strong male role models,
of strong male role models,
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bez veľkých mužských vzorov,
09:37
except for your grandfather.
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okrem tvojho starého otca.
09:39
Tell us about him.
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Povedz nám o ňom.
09:41
NL: Oh, my grandfather.
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NL: Ó, môj starý otec.
09:43
Well here's the way I always
talked about that grandfather.
talked about that grandfather.
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O svojom starom otcovi
som vždy hovoril takto.
som vždy hovoril takto.
09:49
There were parades,
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Boli sprievody,
09:50
lots of parades when I was a kid.
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množstvo sprievodov, keď som bol dieťa.
09:52
There were parades on Veteran's Day --
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Sprievod na deň veteránov –
09:54
there wasn't a President's Day.
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prezidentský deň.
09:56
There was Abraham Lincoln's birthday,
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Narodeniny Abrahama Lincolna,
09:58
George Washington's birthday
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narodeniny George Washingtona
10:00
and Flag Day ...
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a deň vlajky.
10:03
And lots of little parades.
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A množstvo malých sprievodov.
Môj starý otec ma na ne brával,
10:05
My grandfather used to take me
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10:07
and we'd stand on the street corner,
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stáli sme na rohu ulice,
10:08
he'd hold my hand,
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držal ma za ruku
10:10
and I'd look up and I'd see a tear
running down his eye.
running down his eye.
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a ja som sa pozrel hore a videl slzu,
ktorá mu stekala po líci.
ktorá mu stekala po líci.
10:15
And he meant a great deal to me.
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A to pre mňa veľa znamenalo.
10:18
And he used to write presidents
of the United States.
of the United States.
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Zvykol písať prezidentom Spojených štátov.
10:23
Every letter started,
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Každý list začal:
10:25
"My dearest, darling Mr. President,"
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„Môj najdrahší, miláčik pán prezident,“
10:28
and he'd tell him something
wonderful about what he did.
wonderful about what he did.
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a napísal mu niečo úžasné o tom,
čo urobil.
čo urobil.
10:33
But when he disagreed
with the President, he also wrote,
with the President, he also wrote,
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Ale ak s prezidentom nesúhlasil,
tiež mu napísal:
tiež mu napísal:
„Môj najdrahší, miláčik pán prezident,
10:36
"My dearest, darling Mr. President,
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10:37
Didn't I tell you last week ...?"
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Nepovedal som Vám minulý týždeň ...?“
10:39
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
10:41
And I would run down the stairs
every now and then
every now and then
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Z času na čas som utekal dole schodmi
10:46
and pick up the mail.
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pre poštu.
10:48
We were three flights up,
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Boli sme na treťom poschodí,
10:49
74 York Street, New Haven, Connecticut.
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74 York Street, New Haven, Connecticut.
10:52
And I'd pick up a little white envelope
reading, "Shya C. called at this address."
reading, "Shya C. called at this address."
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A doniesol som malú bielu obálku
s textom: „Shya C. volal na túto adresu.“
s textom: „Shya C. volal na túto adresu.“
11:02
And that's the story I have told
about my grandfather --
about my grandfather --
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A to je príbeh o mojom starom otcovi –
11:07
EH: They wrote him back
on the envelopes --
on the envelopes --
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EH: Oni mu odpovedali na obálky –
11:09
NL: They wrote back.
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NL: Napísali mu naspäť.
11:12
But I have shown them myself,
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Ale ukázal som ich osobne
11:17
going way back to Phil Donahue
and others before him,
and others before him,
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Philovi Donahueovi a mnohým pred ním,
11:22
literally dozens of interviews
in which I told that story.
in which I told that story.
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doslova tucty rozhovorov,
v ktorých som hovoril tento príbeh.
v ktorých som hovoril tento príbeh.
11:28
This will be the second time I have said
the whole story was a lie.
the whole story was a lie.
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Toto bude druhý raz, čo som povedal,
že celý príbeh bola lož.
že celý príbeh bola lož.
11:36
The truth was my grandfather
took me to parades,
took me to parades,
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Pravda je, že ma starý otec
bral na sprievody,
bral na sprievody,
11:40
we had lots of those.
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tých bolo veľa.
11:42
The truth is a tear came down his eye.
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Pravdou je aj slza, čo mu stekala po líci.
11:45
The truth is he would write
an occasional letter,
an occasional letter,
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Pravdou je, že z času na čas písal listy
11:49
and I did pick up those little envelopes.
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a že ja som bol vyzdvihnúť
tie malé obálky.
tie malé obálky.
Ale „Môj najdrahší,
miláčik pán prezident,“
miláčik pán prezident,“
11:52
But "My dearest darling Mr. President,"
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11:55
all the rest of it,
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a všetko ostatné
11:58
is a story I borrowed from a good friend
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je príbeh, ktorý som si požičal
od dobrého priateľa,
od dobrého priateľa,
12:02
whose grandfather was that grandfather
who wrote those letters.
who wrote those letters.
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ktorého starý otec, bol tým starým
otcom, ktorý napísal tie listy.
otcom, ktorý napísal tie listy.
12:10
And, I mean, I stole
Arthur Marshall's grandfather
Arthur Marshall's grandfather
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A myslím tým, že som ukradol
starého otca Artura Marshalla
starého otca Artura Marshalla
12:16
and made him my own.
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a spravil ho svojim vlastným.
12:20
Always.
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Vždy.
12:22
When I started to write my memoir --
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Keď som začal písať svoje pamäti –
12:24
"Even this --"
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„Aj to –“
12:26
How about that?
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Čo tak?
12:27
"Even This I Get to Experience."
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„Aj to som si zažil.“
12:30
When I started to write the memoir
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Keď som začal písať svoje pamäti
12:32
and I started to think about it,
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a zamyslel sa nad tým,
12:34
and then I --
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tak som –
12:36
I --
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ja –
12:38
I did a reasonable amount of crying,
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riadne som si poplakal
12:42
and I realized how much
I needed the father.
I needed the father.
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a uvedomil si,
ako veľmi som potreboval otca.
ako veľmi som potreboval otca.
12:47
So much so that I appropriated
Arthur Marshall's grandfather.
Arthur Marshall's grandfather.
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Tak veľmi, že som si privlastnil
starého otca Arthura Marshalla.
starého otca Arthura Marshalla.
12:51
So much so, the word "father" --
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Takže tak, slovo „otec“ –
12:54
I have six kids by the way.
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mimochodom mám 6 detí.
12:57
My favorite role in life.
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Moja najobľúbenejšia úloha v živote.
13:01
It and husband to my wife Lyn.
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To a byť manželom mojej ženy Lyn.
13:07
But I stole the man's identity
because I needed the father.
because I needed the father.
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Ale ukradol som niekomu identitu,
lebo som potreboval otca.
lebo som potreboval otca.
13:13
Now I've gone through a whole lot of shit
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Prešiel som si množstvom sračiek
13:16
and come out on the other side,
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a dostal sa až na druhú stranu
13:18
and I forgive my father --
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a svojmu otcovi som odpustil –
13:20
the best thing I --
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najlepšia vec –
13:21
the worst thing I --
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najhoršia vec –
13:23
The word I'd like to use about him
and think about him is --
and think about him is --
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Slovo, ktoré by som chcel použiť
a aký si myslím, že bol –
a aký si myslím, že bol –
13:26
he was a rascal.
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je darebák.
13:29
The fact that he lied
and stole and cheated
and stole and cheated
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Fakt, že klamal, kradol a podvádzal
13:33
and went to prison ...
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a išiel do basy...
13:37
I submerge that in the word "rascal."
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Celé to zahŕňa slovo „darebák“.
13:41
EH: Well there's a saying that amateurs
borrow and professionals steal.
borrow and professionals steal.
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EH: Hovorí sa, že amatéri
si požičiavajú a profíci kradnú.
si požičiavajú a profíci kradnú.
13:48
NL: I'm a pro.
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NL: Ja som profík.
13:49
EH: You're a pro.
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EH: Si.
13:50
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
13:52
And that quote is widely
attributed to John Lennon,
attributed to John Lennon,
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A ten citát je pripisovaný
Johnovi Lennonovi,
Johnovi Lennonovi,
13:55
but it turns out
he stole it from T.S. Eliot.
he stole it from T.S. Eliot.
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ale ukázalo sa,
že ho ukradol T.S. Eliotovi.
že ho ukradol T.S. Eliotovi.
13:57
So you're in good company.
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Takže si v dobrej spoločnosti.
13:58
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
14:02
EH: I want to talk about your work.
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EH: Chcel by som hovoriť o tvojej práci.
Samozrejme o vplyve, ktorý tvoja práca
mala, bolo napísaného mnoho
mala, bolo napísaného mnoho
14:04
Obviously the impact of your work
has been written about
has been written about
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14:07
and I'm sure you've heard
about it all your life:
about it all your life:
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a som si istý, že si o tom
počúval celý život:
počúval celý život:
14:10
what it meant to people,
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čo znamenala pre ľudí,
14:11
what it meant to our culture,
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čo znamenala pre našu kultúru,
14:12
you heard the applause when I just
named the names of the shows,
named the names of the shows,
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počul si potlesk, keď som vymenoval
len zopár show,
len zopár show,
14:15
you raised half the people
in the room through your work.
in the room through your work.
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polovica ľudí tu v sále
vyrastala na tvojej tvorbe.
vyrastala na tvojej tvorbe.
14:19
But have there ever been any stories
about the impact of your work
about the impact of your work
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Ale boli niekedy príbehy
o vplyve tvojej práce,
o vplyve tvojej práce,
14:22
that surprised you?
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ktoré ťa prekvapili?
14:24
NL: Oh, god --
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NL: Och, bože –
14:26
surprised me and delighted me
from head to toe.
from head to toe.
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prekvapili a potešili od hlavy po päty.
14:33
There was "An Evening with Norman Lear"
within the last year
within the last year
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Minulý rok vyšiel „Večer
s Normanom Learym“,
s Normanom Learym“,
14:38
that a group of hip-hop impresarios,
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ktorý dala dokopy
skupina hip-hopových impresáriov
skupina hip-hopových impresáriov
14:42
performers and the Academy put together.
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umelcov a [Filmová] Akadémia.
14:47
The subtext of "An Evening with ..."
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Podtitul podujatia bol
14:49
was: What do a 92-year-old Jew --
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Čo má spoločné 92 ročný Žid –
14:53
then 92 --
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vtedy 92 ročný –
14:55
and the world of hip-hop have in common?
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a svet hip-hopu?
14:57
Russell Simmons
was among seven on the stage.
was among seven on the stage.
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Russel Simmons bol na scéne.
15:00
And when he talked about the shows,
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A keď hovoril o mojich show,
15:05
he wasn't talking about the Hollywood,
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nehovoril o Hollywoode
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George Jefferson in "The Jeffersons,"
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George Jefferson v „Jeffersonovcoch“
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or the show that was a number five show.
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alebo o show číslo päť.
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He was talking about a simple
thing that made a big --
thing that made a big --
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Hovoril o jednoduchej veci,
ktorá spravila veľký –
ktorá spravila veľký –
15:25
EH: Impact on him?
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EH: Dojem?
15:26
NL: An impact on him --
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NL: Naňho veľký dojem –
15:28
I was hesitating over the word, "change."
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Váhal som nad slovom „zmena“.
15:31
It's hard for me to imagine,
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Je pre mňa ťažké si predstaviť,
15:34
you know, changing somebody's life,
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chápeš, že mením niečí život,
15:35
but that's the way he put it.
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ale tak to povedal.
15:37
He saw George Jefferson
write a check on "The Jeffersons,"
write a check on "The Jeffersons,"
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Videl Georgea Jeffersona vystaviť šek
15:43
and he never knew that a black man
could write a check.
could write a check.
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a netušil, že černoch
môže vystavovať šeky.
môže vystavovať šeky.
15:48
And he says it just
impacted his life so --
impacted his life so --
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A povedal, že to ovplyvnilo jeho život –
15:53
it changed his life.
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zmenilo to jeho život.
15:55
And when I hear things like that --
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A keď počujem príbehy ako tento –
15:58
little things --
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drobnosti –
16:00
because I know that there isn't
anybody in this audience
anybody in this audience
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pretože viem, že v sále nie je nikto,
16:03
that wasn't likely responsible today for
some little thing they did for somebody,
some little thing they did for somebody,
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kto by dnes neurobil
pre niekoho nejakú drobnosť,
pre niekoho nejakú drobnosť,
16:10
whether it's as little as a smile
or an unexpected "Hello,"
or an unexpected "Hello,"
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či už je to úsmev alebo nečakaný pozdrav.
16:15
that's how little this thing was.
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Taká malá tá vec bola.
16:18
It could have been the dresser of the set
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Mohol to byť kulisár,
16:23
who put the checkbook on the thing,
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kto dal na scénu šekovú knižku
16:24
and George had nothing to do
while he was speaking, so he wrote it,
while he was speaking, so he wrote it,
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a George nemal čo robiť počas monológu,
tak vypísal šek,
tak vypísal šek,
16:28
I don't know.
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neviem.
16:29
But --
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Ale –
16:31
EH: So in addition to the long list
I shared in the beginning,
I shared in the beginning,
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EH: Takže k tomu dlhému zoznamu,
čo som predniesol na začiatku,
čo som predniesol na začiatku,
16:34
I should have also mentioned
that you invented hip-hop.
that you invented hip-hop.
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by som mal pridať, že si vynašiel hip-hop.
16:37
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
16:38
NL: Well ...
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NL: Tak...
16:40
EH: I want to talk about --
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EH: Chcel by som hovoriť o –
16:42
NL: Well, then do it.
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NL: Tak to sprav.
16:43
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
16:49
EH: You've lead a life of accomplishment,
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EH: Viedol si život,
kde si dosahoval úspechy,
kde si dosahoval úspechy,
16:52
but you've also built a life of meaning.
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ale tvoj život mal tiež zmysel.
16:54
And all of us strive to do
both of those things --
both of those things --
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A každý z nás sa snaží
dosiahnuť tieto dve veci –
dosiahnuť tieto dve veci –
16:57
not all of us manage to.
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nie každému sa to podarí.
16:59
But even those of us who do manage
to accomplish both of those,
to accomplish both of those,
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Ale aj tí, ktorým sa podarí dosiahnuť obe,
17:03
very rarely do we figure out
how to do them together.
how to do them together.
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veľmi ojedinelo vedia,
ako ich dosiahnuť naraz.
ako ich dosiahnuť naraz.
17:06
You managed to push culture
forward through your art
forward through your art
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Ty si dokázal posunúť kultúru
dopredu cez svoje umenie,
dopredu cez svoje umenie,
17:11
while also achieving world-beating
commercial success.
commercial success.
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zatiaľ čo si mal komerčný úspech.
17:15
How did you do both?
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Ako si to dokázal?
17:23
NL: Here's where my mind goes when I hear
that recitation of all I accomplished.
that recitation of all I accomplished.
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NL: Toto mi napadne, keď počujem
výpočet mojich úspechov.
výpočet mojich úspechov.
17:31
This planet is one of a billion,
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Naša planéta je jedna z miliardy,
17:35
they tell us,
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to nám hovoria,
17:36
in a universe
of which there are billions --
of which there are billions --
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vo vesmíre, ktorých sú miliardy –
17:42
billions of universes,
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miliardy vesmírov,
17:44
billions of planets ...
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miliardy planét...
17:47
which we're trying to save
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ktoré sa snažíme zachrániť
17:49
and it requires saving.
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a ktoré vyžadujú záchranu.
17:53
But ...
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Ale...
17:55
anything I may have accomplished is --
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čokoľvek som možno dosiahol –
17:59
my sister once asked me
what she does about something
what she does about something
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moja sestra sa ma raz opýtala,
čo má robiť s niečim,
čo má robiť s niečim,
18:03
that was going on
in Newington, Connecticut.
in Newington, Connecticut.
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čo sa dialo v Newingtone v Connecticute.
18:06
And I said, "Write your alderman
or your mayor or something."
or your mayor or something."
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A ja som jej povedal: „Napíš starostovi
alebo niekomu takému.“
alebo niekomu takému.“
18:09
She said, "Well I'm not
Norman Lear, I'm Claire Lear."
Norman Lear, I'm Claire Lear."
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A ona mi povedala: „Ale ja nie som
Norman Lear, som Claire Lear.“
Norman Lear, som Claire Lear.“
18:13
And that was the first time
I said what I'm saying,
I said what I'm saying,
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A to bolo prvý raz, čo som povedal to,
čo hovorím vždy.
čo hovorím vždy.
18:18
I said, "Claire. With everything
you think about what I may have done
you think about what I may have done
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Povedal som: „Claire, ak porovnáš
všetko, čo si myslíš, že som spravil,
všetko, čo si myslíš, že som spravil,
18:22
and everything you've done," --
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a všetko, čo si spravila ty,“ –
18:24
she never left Newington --
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nikdy neopustila Newington –
18:26
"can you get your fingers close enough
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„a ak zvážiš veľkosť našej planéte
18:28
when you consider the size
of the planet and so forth,
of the planet and so forth,
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a porovnáš, čo si myslíš, že som urobil,
a čo si urobila ty,
a čo si urobila ty,
18:32
to measure anything I may have done
to anything you may have done?"
to anything you may have done?"
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je to takto blízko.“
18:36
So ...
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Takže...
18:38
I am convinced we're all responsible
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Som presvedčený, že sme všetci zodpovední
18:42
for doing as much
as I may have accomplished.
as I may have accomplished.
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za to, aby sme urobili toľko,
ako som mohol urobiť ja.
ako som mohol urobiť ja.
18:47
And I understand what you're saying --
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A chápem, čo hovoríš –
18:49
EH: It's an articulate deflection --
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EH: To je naozaj vyhýbavá odpoveď –
18:50
NL: But you have to really buy into
the size and scope
the size and scope
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NL: Ale musíš si naozaj uvedomiť
veľkosť a rozsah
veľkosť a rozsah
18:54
of the creator's enterprise, here.
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tvorcovho plánu.
18:56
EH: But here on this planet
you have really mattered.
you have really mattered.
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EH: Ale tu na tejto planéte
na tebe naozaj záležalo.
na tebe naozaj záležalo.
18:59
NL: I'm a son of a gun.
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NL: Som naničhodník.
19:00
(Laughter)
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(smiech)
19:02
EH: So I have one more question for you.
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EH: Tak mám ešte jednu otázku.
19:06
How old do you feel?
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Na koľko rokov sa cítiš?
19:09
NL: I am the peer
of whoever I'm talking to.
of whoever I'm talking to.
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NL: Som rovesník kohokoľvek,
s kým sa rozprávam.
s kým sa rozprávam.
19:14
EH: Well, I feel 93.
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EH: Ja sa cítim na 93.
19:16
(Applause)
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(potlesk)
19:22
NL: We out of here?
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NL: Skončili sme?
19:24
EH: Well, I feel 93 years old,
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EH: Cítim sa na 93,
19:25
but I hope to one day feel as young
as the person I'm sitting across from.
as the person I'm sitting across from.
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ale verím, že raz sa budem cítiť
tak mlado, ako osoba, oproti ktorej sedím.
tak mlado, ako osoba, oproti ktorej sedím.
19:29
Ladies and gentlemen,
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Dámy a páni,
19:30
the incomparable Norman Lear.
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jedinečný Norman Lear.
19:32
(Applause)
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(potlesk)
19:38
NL: Thank you.
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NL: Ďakujem.
19:39
(Applause)
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(potlesk)
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Norman Lear - Producer, activistWriter, producer and free-speech champion Norman Lear defined decades of US popular culture with his groundbreaking TV shows.
Why you should listen
With his blockbuster TV hit All in the Family, Norman Lear introduced new icons -- Archie and Edith Bunker -- while simultaneously redefining television and its role in America’s moral conscience. The series spawned hit spin-offs like The Jeffersons, One Day at a Time and Maude, making Lear a household name throughout the 1970s and 1980s.
Lear’s free-speech activism dovetails with his entertainment career. In 1981, Lear founded People for the American Way in response to a wave of religious fundamentalism he viewed as a threat to the separation of church and state. In 2001, he purchased an early print of the Declaration of Independence, showing it throughout the US as part of the Declaration of Independence Road Trip.
Lear's memoir, Even This I Get to Experience, was released in 2014. The PBS documentary series American Masters will release Norman Lear: Just Another Version of You in theaters July 2016 and on PBS and Netflix Fall 2016.
Norman Lear | Speaker | TED.com
Eric Hirshberg - CEO, Activision
Eric Hirshberg leads Activision, one of the world's largest interactive entertainment companies.
Why you should listen
Under Eric Hirshberg's leadership, Activision has delivered the largest entertainment launch in history three times with Call of Duty, the biggest new franchise launch in the industry's history with Destiny, and both the biggest kids' game and the biggest action figure line in the world with Skylanders. All of this has helped Activision Blizzard to be named as one of the 50 most innovative companies in the world by Fast Company and one of the 100 best places to work by Fortune.
Before his time at Activision, Hirshberg built the award winning advertising agency, Deutsch LA as its Co-CEO/Chief Creative Officer. Under Eric's leadership, DeutschLA was named Agency of the Year seven times. Hirshberg has been named one of the 10 most influential people in marketing by Advertising Age Magazine and one of the 50 most creative people in business by Creativity Magazine.
Hirshberg also sits on the boards of the UCLA School of the Arts and Architecture and The X-Prize Foundation. In 2015, Hirshberg gave the commencement address for the School of the Arts and Architecture on June 13, 2015.
Eric Hirshberg | Speaker | TED.com