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Caitlin Doughty: A burial practice that nourishes the planet
Kejtlin Doti (Caitlin Doughty): Praksa sahranjivanja koja hrani planetu
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Evo pitanja na koje svi moramo da damo odgovor pre ili kasnije: šta želite da se desi sa vašim telom kada umrete? Direktorka pogrebnog preduzeća Kejtlin Doti istražuje nove načine da se pripremimo za neizbežnu smrtnost. U ovom promišljenom govoru saznajte više o idejama za sahranjivanje (poput „rekompostiranja“ i „konzervacijskog pogreba“) koji vraćaju naša tela zemlji na način koji je naklonjen životnoj sredini, skroman i samosvestan.
Caitlin Doughty - Progressive mortician
Caitlin Doughty asks: What if we re-designed the funeral industry for an eco-friendly end of life? Full bio
Caitlin Doughty asks: What if we re-designed the funeral industry for an eco-friendly end of life? Full bio
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Kada umrem,
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When I die,
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volela bih da se moje telo
položi da ga pojedu životinje.
položi da ga pojedu životinje.
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I would like for my body
to be laid out to be eaten by animals.
to be laid out to be eaten by animals.
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Izlaganje tela da ga pojedu životinje
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Having your body laid out to be eaten
by animals is not for everyone.
by animals is not for everyone.
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nije za svakoga.
(Smeh)
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(Laughter)
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Možda ste već razgovarali
sa svojom porodicom o kraju života
sa svojom porodicom o kraju života
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Maybe you have already had
the end-of-life talk with your family
the end-of-life talk with your family
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i odlučili se, šta znam, za kremaciju.
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and decided on,
I don't know, cremation.
I don't know, cremation.
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And in the interest of full disclosure,
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Zarad potpunog razotkrivanja,
ono što predlažem za svoje mrtvo telo
trenutno nije baš legalno,
trenutno nije baš legalno,
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what I am proposing for my dead body
is not strictly legal at the moment,
is not strictly legal at the moment,
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ali nije bez presedana.
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but it's not without precedent.
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Polagali smo svoje mrtve
kroz čitavu ljudsku istoriju;
kroz čitavu ljudsku istoriju;
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We've been laying out our dead
for all of human history;
for all of human history;
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to se zove sahranjivanje izlaganjem.
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it's call exposure burial.
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In fact, it's likely happening
right now as we speak.
right now as we speak.
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Zapravo, verovatno je da se dešava
upravo sada dok govorimo.
upravo sada dok govorimo.
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In the mountainous regions of Tibet,
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U planinskim područjima Tibeta
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they practice "sky burial,"
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primenjuju „nebeske sahrane“,
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a ritual where the body is left
to be consumed by vultures.
to be consumed by vultures.
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ritual gde se telo ostavlja
da ga pojedu lešinari.
da ga pojedu lešinari.
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In Mumbai, in India,
those who follow the Parsi religion
those who follow the Parsi religion
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U Mumbaju u Indiji,
sledbenici parsijske vere
sledbenici parsijske vere
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put their dead in structures
called "Towers of Silence."
called "Towers of Silence."
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stavljaju svoje mrtve
u strukture zvane „kule tišine“.
u strukture zvane „kule tišine“.
Ovo su zanimljive kulturološke poslastice,
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These are interesting cultural tidbits,
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ali prosto nisu toliko popularne
u zapadnom svetu;
u zapadnom svetu;
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but they just haven't really been
that popular in the Western world --
that popular in the Western world --
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nisu ono što biste očekivali.
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they're not what you'd expect.
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01:25
In America, our death traditions
have come to be chemical embalming,
have come to be chemical embalming,
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U Americi, naše tradicije vezane za smrt
svode se na balsamovanje hemikalijama,
svode se na balsamovanje hemikalijama,
zatim, sahranu na lokalnom groblju,
01:30
followed by burial at your local cemetery,
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i, u skorije vreme, kremaciju.
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or, more recently, cremation.
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Ja sam od nedavno vegetarijanac,
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I myself, am a recent vegetarian,
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što znači da sam provela
prvih tridesetak godina života
prvih tridesetak godina života
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which means I spent the first
30 years or so of my life
30 years or so of my life
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u pomahnitalom gutanju životinja -
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frantically inhaling animals --
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koliko god sam mogla.
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as many as I could get my hands on.
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Why, when I die, should they not
have their turn with me?
have their turn with me?
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Zašto ne bi bio njihov red
da navale na mene kada umrem?
da navale na mene kada umrem?
01:53
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:55
Am I not an animal?
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Zar ja nisam životinja?
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Biologically speaking,
are we not all, in this room, animals?
are we not all, in this room, animals?
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Biološki govoreći, zar nismo svi mi
u ovoj prostoriji životinje?
u ovoj prostoriji životinje?
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Accepting the fact that we are animals
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Prihvatanje činjenice da smo svi životinje
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has some potentially
terrifying consequences.
terrifying consequences.
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ima potencijalno zastrašujuće posledice.
02:09
It means accepting
that we are doomed to decay and die,
that we are doomed to decay and die,
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To podrazumeva prihvatanje
da smo osuđeni da istrulimo i umremo,
da smo osuđeni da istrulimo i umremo,
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just like any other creature on earth.
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kao i sva druga stvorenja na planeti.
02:18
For the last nine years,
I've worked in the funeral industry,
I've worked in the funeral industry,
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Proteklih devet godina
radim u pogrebnoj delatnosti,
radim u pogrebnoj delatnosti,
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first as a crematory operator,
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najpre kao rukovodilac krematorijuma,
zatim kao pogrebnik,
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then as a mortician
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i od nedavno kao vlasnik
sopstvene firme za pogrebne usluge.
sopstvene firme za pogrebne usluge.
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and most recently, as the owner
of my own funeral home.
of my own funeral home.
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And I have some good news:
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Imam dobre vesti.
02:31
if you're looking to avoid the whole
"doomed to decay and die" thing:
"doomed to decay and die" thing:
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Ako želite da izbegnete
sve to sa „osuđenošću na trulež i smrt“,
sve to sa „osuđenošću na trulež i smrt“,
02:36
you will have all the help
in the world in that avoidance
in the world in that avoidance
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imaćete svu pomoć ovog sveta
u tom izbegavanju
u tom izbegavanju
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from the funeral industry.
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od pogrebnih usluga.
02:43
It's a multi-billion-dollar industry,
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To je industrija
vredna više milijardi dolara,
vredna više milijardi dolara,
02:46
and its economic model
is based on the principle
is based on the principle
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a njen ekonomski model
zasnovan je na principu
zasnovan je na principu
02:49
of protection, sanitation
and beautification of the corpse.
and beautification of the corpse.
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očuvanja, dezinfekcije i ulepšavanja leša.
02:55
Whether they mean to or not,
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Nameravala to ili ne,
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the funeral industry promotes
this idea of human exceptionalism.
this idea of human exceptionalism.
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pogrebna delatnost podstiče ideju
o ljudskoj izuzetnosti.
o ljudskoj izuzetnosti.
Nebitno je šta je potrebno,
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It doesn't matter what it takes,
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koliko košta,
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how much it costs,
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koliko je štetno za životnu sredinu,
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how bad it is for the environment,
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učinićemo to jer su ljudi vredni toga!
03:07
we're going to do it
because humans are worth it!
because humans are worth it!
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03:11
It ignores the fact
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Ignoriše se činjenica
03:13
that death can be an emotionally messy
and complex affair,
and complex affair,
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da smrt može biti
emocionalno haotična i složena stvar,
emocionalno haotična i složena stvar,
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and that there is beauty in decay --
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kao i da ima lepote u propadanju -
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beauty in the natural return
to the earth from whence we came.
to the earth from whence we came.
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lepote u prirodnom povratku zemlji
iz koje smo potekli.
iz koje smo potekli.
Ne bih da me pogrešno shvatite -
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Now, I don't want you to get me wrong --
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potpuno razumem važnost rituala,
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I absolutely understand
the importance of ritual,
the importance of ritual,
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especially when it comes
to the people that we love.
to the people that we love.
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naročito kada se radi
o ljudima koje volimo,
o ljudima koje volimo,
ali moramo biti u mogućnosti
da stvorimo i upražnjavamo taj ritual
da stvorimo i upražnjavamo taj ritual
03:35
But we have to be able
to create and practice this ritual
to create and practice this ritual
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a da ne naškodimo životnoj sredini,
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without harming the environment,
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zbog čega su nam potrebne nove opcije.
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which is why we need new options.
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03:44
So let's return to the idea of protection,
sanitation and beautification.
sanitation and beautification.
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Vratimo se ideji o očuvanju,
dezinfekciji i ulepšavanju.
dezinfekciji i ulepšavanju.
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We'll start with a dead body.
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Počećemo od mrtvog tela.
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The funeral industry
will protect your dead body
will protect your dead body
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Pogrebna delatnost
će zaštititi vaše mrtvo telo
će zaštititi vaše mrtvo telo
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by offering to sell your family a casket
made of hardwood or metal
made of hardwood or metal
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ponudivši da proda vašoj porodici kovčeg
sačinjen od tvrdog drveta ili metala
sačinjen od tvrdog drveta ili metala
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with a rubber sealant.
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sa gumenim zaptivačem.
04:02
At the cemetery, on the day of burial,
that casket will be lowered
that casket will be lowered
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Na groblju, na dan sahrane,
taj kovčeg će biti spušten
u veliku betonsku ili metalnu grobnicu.
u veliku betonsku ili metalnu grobnicu.
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into a large concrete or metal vault.
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04:09
We're wasting all of these resources --
concretes, metal, hardwoods --
concretes, metal, hardwoods --
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Traćimo sva ta sredstva -
beton, metal, tvrdo drvo -
beton, metal, tvrdo drvo -
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hiding them in vast
underground fortresses.
underground fortresses.
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time što ih sakrivamo
u ogromne podzemne tvrđave.
u ogromne podzemne tvrđave.
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When you choose burial at the cemetery,
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Kada odaberete sahranu na groblju,
04:20
your dead body is not coming anywhere
near the dirt that surrounds it.
near the dirt that surrounds it.
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vaše mrtvo telo se ne približava
zemlji koja ga okružuje.
zemlji koja ga okružuje.
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Food for worms
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Hrana za crve
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you are not.
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ne postajete.
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Next, the industry will sanitize
your body through embalming:
your body through embalming:
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Zatim, dezinfikovaće
vam telo balsamovanjem,
vam telo balsamovanjem,
hemijskim procesom za očuvanje mrtvih.
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the chemical preservation of the dead.
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Ova procedura vam ispušta krv
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This procedure drains your blood
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i zamenjuje je otrovnim formaldehidom
koji prouzrokuje rak.
koji prouzrokuje rak.
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and replaces it with a toxic,
cancer-causing formaldehyde.
cancer-causing formaldehyde.
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Kažu da to rade zbog javnog zdravlja
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They say they do this
for the public health
for the public health
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jer mrtva tela mogu biti opasna,
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because the dead body can be dangerous,
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ali doktori u ovoj prostoriji će vam reći
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but the doctors in this room will tell you
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da bi ta tvrdnja važila
samo ako je osoba umrla
samo ako je osoba umrla
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that that claim would only apply
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04:56
if the person had died of some wildly
infectious disease, like Ebola.
infectious disease, like Ebola.
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od neke užasno infektivne bolesti
kao što je ebola.
kao što je ebola.
Čak i raspadanje ljudskog bića,
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Even human decomposition,
which, let's be honest,
which, let's be honest,
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koje, iskreno rečeno,
jeste malo smrdljivo i neprijatno,
jeste malo smrdljivo i neprijatno,
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is a little stinky and unpleasant,
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is perfectly safe.
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savršeno je bezbedno.
Bakterija koja izaziva bolest
nije ista bakterija
nije ista bakterija
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The bacteria that causes disease
is not the same bacteria
is not the same bacteria
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koja dovodi do raspadanja.
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that causes decomposition.
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Najzad, ove usluge će ulepšati vaš leš.
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Finally, the industry
will beautify the corpse.
will beautify the corpse.
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05:23
They'll tell you that the natural
dead body of your mother or father
dead body of your mother or father
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Reći će vam da prirodno mrtvo telo
vaše majke ili oca
vaše majke ili oca
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is not good enough as it is.
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nije dovoljno dobro takvo kakvo je.
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They'll put it in makeup.
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Staviće mu šminku.
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They'll put it in a suit.
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Obući će mu odelo.
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They'll inject dyes so the person
looks a little more alive --
looks a little more alive --
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Ubrizgaće boje tako da osoba
izgleda malo življe -
izgleda malo življe -
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just resting.
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kao da samo odmara.
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Embalming is a cheat code,
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Balsamovanje je prevara
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providing the illusion that death
and then decay are not the natural end
and then decay are not the natural end
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koja pruža iluziju da smrt
i potom propadanje nisu prirodan kraj
i potom propadanje nisu prirodan kraj
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for all organic life on this planet.
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svakog organskog života na ovoj planeti.
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Now, if this system of beautification,
sanitation, protection
sanitation, protection
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Ako vam se ovaj sistem ulepšavanja,
dezinfekcije i očuvanja ne dopada,
dezinfekcije i očuvanja ne dopada,
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doesn't appeal to you,
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you are not alone.
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niste jedini.
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There is a whole wave of people --
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Postoji čitav talas ljudi -
direktori pogrebnih firmi, dizajneri,
borci za zaštitu životne sredine -
borci za zaštitu životne sredine -
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funeral directors, designers,
environmentalists --
environmentalists --
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06:04
trying to come up with a more
eco-friendly way of death.
eco-friendly way of death.
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koji pokušavaju da osmisle
ekološki bolji način za umiranje.
ekološki bolji način za umiranje.
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For these people, death is not necessarily
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Za ove ljude, smrt nije nužno
savršena, ušminkana stvar
u svečanom odelu.
u svečanom odelu.
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a pristine, makeup,
powder-blue tuxedo kind of affair.
powder-blue tuxedo kind of affair.
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06:16
There's no question
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Nema dileme
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that our current methods of death
are not particularly sustainable,
are not particularly sustainable,
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da naše trenutne metode u smrti
nisu naročito održive,
nisu naročito održive,
sa svim tim traćenjem sredstava
i našim oslanjanjem na hemikalije.
i našim oslanjanjem na hemikalije.
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what with the waste of resources
and our reliance on chemicals.
and our reliance on chemicals.
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Čak i kremacija,
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Even cremation,
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koja se obično smatra opcijom
koja je naklonjena životnoj sredini,
koja je naklonjena životnoj sredini,
06:27
which is usually considered
the environmentally friendly option,
the environmentally friendly option,
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koristi, po jednoj kremaciji,
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uses, per cremation,
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prirodni gas količine potrebne
za putovanje autom od 800 km.
za putovanje autom od 800 km.
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the natural gas equivalent
of a 500-mile car trip.
of a 500-mile car trip.
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Pa, šta ćemo dalje?
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So where do we go from here?
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06:43
Last summer, I was in the mountains
of North Carolina,
of North Carolina,
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Proteklog leta sam bila
u planinama Severne Karoline
u planinama Severne Karoline
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hauling buckets of wood chips
in the summer sun.
in the summer sun.
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i vukla kofe piljevine na letnjem suncu.
Bila sam na Univezitetu Zapadne Karoline
na njihovoj „farmi tela“,
na njihovoj „farmi tela“,
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I was at Western Carolina University
at their "Body Farm,"
at their "Body Farm,"
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koja se preciznije zove
„ustanova za ljudsko raspadanje“.
„ustanova za ljudsko raspadanje“.
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more accurately called
a "human decomposition facility."
a "human decomposition facility."
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Tu se donose tela donirana nauci,
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Bodies donated to science
are brought here,
are brought here,
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a njihovo propadanje se izučava
zarad budućnosti forenzike.
zarad budućnosti forenzike.
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and their decay is studied
to benefit the future of forensics.
to benefit the future of forensics.
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Ovog konkretnog dana,
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On this particular day,
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12 tela je bilo izloženo
u različitim fazama raspadanja.
u različitim fazama raspadanja.
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there were 12 bodies laid out
in various stages of decomposition.
in various stages of decomposition.
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Od nekih je ostao samo skelet,
07:12
Some were skeletonized,
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na jednom je bila ljubičasta pidžama,
07:15
one was wearing purple pajamas,
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a na jednom su se još videle
plave dlačice na licu.
plave dlačice na licu.
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one still had blonde facial hair visible.
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07:21
The forensic aspect is really fascinating,
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Forenzički aspekt je zaista fascinantan,
ali nisam zapravo zbog toga bila tamo.
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but not actually why I was there.
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Bila sam tamo jer moja koleginica
po imenu Katrina Spejd
po imenu Katrina Spejd
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I was there because a colleague of mine
named Katrina Spade
named Katrina Spade
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pokušava da sačini sistem,
ne za kremaciju mrtvih,
ne za kremaciju mrtvih,
07:29
is attempting to create a system,
not of cremating the dead,
not of cremating the dead,
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već za kompostiranje mrtvih.
07:34
but composting the dead.
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She calls the system "Recomposition,"
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Svoj sistem naziva „Rekompozicija“,
07:39
and we've been doing it with cattle
and other livestock for years.
and other livestock for years.
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a godinama smo ga sprovodili
sa govedima i ostalom stokom.
sa govedima i ostalom stokom.
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She imagines a facility
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Ona zamišlja ustanovu
gde bi porodica mogla da dođe
i položi svoje voljene koji su umrli
i položi svoje voljene koji su umrli
07:45
where the family could come
and lay their dead loved one
and lay their dead loved one
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in a nutrient-rich mixture that would,
in four-to-six weeks,
in four-to-six weeks,
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u smešu bogatu hranljivim materijama
koja bi za četiri do šest nedelja
koja bi za četiri do šest nedelja
07:52
reduce the body -- bones
and all -- to soil.
and all -- to soil.
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razložila telo -
kosti i ostalo - u zemlju.
kosti i ostalo - u zemlju.
07:56
In those four-to-six weeks,
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Za tih četiri do šest nedelja,
vaši molekuli postaju drugi molekuli;
07:58
your molecules become other molecules;
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bukvalno se transformišete.
08:00
you literally transform.
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Kako bi se ovo uklopilo
08:03
How would this fit in
with the very recent desire
with the very recent desire
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sa željom koju izgleda
da mnogi imaju od nedavno -
da mnogi imaju od nedavno -
08:06
a lot of people seem to have
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da budu sahranjeni ispod drveta
08:08
to be buried under a tree,
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ili da postanu drvo kada umru?
08:09
or to become a tree when they die?
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08:12
In a traditional cremation,
the ashes that are left over --
the ashes that are left over --
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Pri tradicionalnoj kremaciji,
pepeo koji preostane -
pepeo koji preostane -
neorganski delići kostiju -
08:16
inorganic bone fragments --
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formira gusti sloj poput krede
08:18
form a thick, chalky layer
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koji, ako se ne raspodeli
baš kako treba u zemljište,
baš kako treba u zemljište,
08:20
that, unless distributed
in the soil just right,
in the soil just right,
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zapravo može da naškodi drvetu
ili da ga ubije.
ili da ga ubije.
08:23
can actually hurt or kill the tree.
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08:27
But if you're recomposed,
if you actually become the soil,
if you actually become the soil,
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Ali ako ste „rekomponovani“,
ako zapravo postanete zemljište,
ako zapravo postanete zemljište,
08:30
you can nourish the tree,
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možete hraniti drvo
08:32
and become the post-mortem contributor
you've always wanted to be --
you've always wanted to be --
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i posmrtno dati doprinos
kao što ste oduvek želeli,
kao što ste oduvek želeli,
08:36
that you deserve to be.
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kao što i zaslužujete.
08:38
So that's one option
for the future of cremation.
for the future of cremation.
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Dakle, to je jedna opcija
za budućnost kremacije.
za budućnost kremacije.
A šta je sa budućnošću groblja?
08:42
But what about the future of cemeteries?
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Postoji mnogo ljudi koji smatraju
da uopšte ne treba da više imamo groblja
da uopšte ne treba da više imamo groblja
08:45
There are a lot of people who think
we shouldn't even have cemeteries anymore
we shouldn't even have cemeteries anymore
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jer nam ponestaje zemljišta.
08:49
because we're running out of land.
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08:51
But what if we reframed it,
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Međutim, šta ako bismo to preformulisali,
08:54
and the corpse wasn't the land's enemy,
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ako leš ne bi bio neprijatelj zemlje,
08:56
but its potential savior?
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već njen potencijalni spasitelj?
08:59
I'm talking about conservation burial,
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Govorim o konzervacijskom pogrebu,
09:02
where large swaths of land
are purchased by a land trust.
are purchased by a land trust.
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gde ogromne količine zemljišta
kupi povereničko društvo.
kupi povereničko društvo.
09:07
The beauty of this is that once you plant
a few dead bodies in that land,
a few dead bodies in that land,
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Lepota ovoga je u tome da, kada stavite
nekoliko mrtvih tela u tu zemlju,
nekoliko mrtvih tela u tu zemlju,
09:12
it can't be touched,
it can't be developed on --
it can't be developed on --
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ne može se dirati,
ne može se graditi na njoj -
ne može se graditi na njoj -
09:15
hence the term, "conservation burial."
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otuda termin „konzervacijski pogreb“.
09:17
It's the equivalent of chaining yourself
to a tree post-mortem --
to a tree post-mortem --
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To je isto kao da se vežete
za drvo nakon smrti.
za drvo nakon smrti.
09:21
"Hell no, I won't go!
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„Nema šanse, neću da idem!
09:24
No, really -- I can't.
I'm decomposing under here."
I'm decomposing under here."
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Ne, stvarno, ne mogu. Razlažem se ovde.“
09:27
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
Novac koji porodica daje groblju
09:28
Any money that the family
gives to the cemetery
gives to the cemetery
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išao bi za zaštitu zemljišta
i njegovo upravljanje.
i njegovo upravljanje.
09:30
would go back into protecting
and managing the land.
and managing the land.
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09:35
There are no headstones
and no graves in the typical sense.
and no graves in the typical sense.
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Nema spomenika i grobova
u tipičnom smislu.
u tipičnom smislu.
Grobovi su rasuti po posedu
09:39
The graves are scattered
about the property
about the property
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pod elegantnim humkama,
09:41
under elegant mounds,
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obeleženi samo kamenom
ili malim metalnim diskom,
ili malim metalnim diskom,
09:43
marked only by a rock
or a small metal disk,
or a small metal disk,
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ili se ponekad mogu locirati
samo satelitskom navigacijom.
samo satelitskom navigacijom.
09:47
or sometimes only locatable by GPS.
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09:50
There's no embalming,
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Nema balsamovanja,
09:52
no heavy, metal caskets.
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teških i metalnih kovčega.
09:55
My funeral home sells a few caskets
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Moja pogrebna firma
prodaje nekoliko kovčega
prodaje nekoliko kovčega
09:57
made out of things like
woven willow and bamboo,
woven willow and bamboo,
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sačinjenih od materijala
kao što su pletena vrba i bambus,
kao što su pletena vrba i bambus,
10:01
but honestly, most of our families
just choose a simple shroud.
just choose a simple shroud.
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ali iskreno, većina naših porodica
odabere samo jednostavan pokrov.
odabere samo jednostavan pokrov.
10:05
There are none of the big vaults
that most cemeteries require
that most cemeteries require
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Nema velikih grobnica
koje većina groblja zahteva
koje većina groblja zahteva
10:09
just because it makes it easier
for them to landscape.
for them to landscape.
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samo zato što im to olakšava
uređivanje prostora.
uređivanje prostora.
Tu mogu doći porodice,
mogu da uživaju u prirodi,
mogu da uživaju u prirodi,
10:14
Families can come here;
they can luxuriate in nature;
they can luxuriate in nature;
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mogu čak i da zasade drvo ili žbun,
10:17
they can even plant a tree or a shrub,
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mada su dozvoljene
samo domaće biljke sa područja.
samo domaće biljke sa područja.
10:20
though only native plants
to the area are allowed.
to the area are allowed.
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Mrtvi se tada lako spajaju sa predelom.
10:24
The dead then blend seamlessly
in with the landscape.
in with the landscape.
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U konzervacijskim grobljima je nada.
10:28
There's hope in conservation cemeteries.
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Nude namenske zelene površine
kako u gradskim, tako i seoskim sredinama.
kako u gradskim, tako i seoskim sredinama.
10:32
They offer dedicated green space
in both urban and rural areas.
in both urban and rural areas.
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10:37
They offer a chance to reintroduce
native plants and animals to a region.
native plants and animals to a region.
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Nude priliku za ponovno uvođenje
domaćih biljaka i životinja u regiji.
domaćih biljaka i životinja u regiji.
10:42
They offer public trails,
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Nude javne staze,
mesta za duhovnu praksu,
10:44
places for spiritual practice,
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mesta za časove i događaje -
10:46
places for classes and events --
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mesta gde se sreću priroda i oplakivanje.
10:50
places where nature and mourning meet.
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10:54
Most importantly,
they offer us, once again,
they offer us, once again,
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Što je najvažnije, nude nam, još jednom,
10:57
a chance to just decompose
in a hole in the ground.
in a hole in the ground.
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priliku da se prosto razložimo
u rupi u zemlji.
u rupi u zemlji.
11:03
The soil,
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Zemljištu smo,
11:05
let me tell you,
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da vam kažem,
11:07
has missed us.
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nedostajali.
11:09
I think for a lot of people,
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Mislim da mnogi ljudi
11:11
they're starting to get the sense
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počinju da stiču utisak
11:12
that our current funeral industry
isn't really working for them.
isn't really working for them.
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da im sadašnje pogrebne usluge
ne odgovaraju.
ne odgovaraju.
U slučaju mnogih među nama,
11:18
For many of us,
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11:19
being sanitized and beautified
just doesn't reflect us.
just doesn't reflect us.
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pročišćavanje i ulepšavanje
jednostavno ne odgovara onome što jesmo.
jednostavno ne odgovara onome što jesmo.
Ne poklapa se sa onim
za šta smo se zalagali tokom života.
za šta smo se zalagali tokom života.
11:23
It doesn't reflect
what we stood for during our lives.
what we stood for during our lives.
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Hoće li promena načina
na koji sahranjujemo mrtve
na koji sahranjujemo mrtve
11:28
Will changing the way we bury our dead
solve climate change?
solve climate change?
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rešiti klimatske promene?
11:32
No.
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Ne.
11:34
But it will make bold moves
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Ali će načiniti hrabre poteze
11:36
in how we see ourselves
as citizens of this planet.
as citizens of this planet.
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u načinu na koji vidimo sebe
kao građane ove planete.
kao građane ove planete.
11:40
If we can die in a way
that is more humble and self-aware,
that is more humble and self-aware,
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Ako možemo umreti na način
koji je skromniji i samosvesniji,
koji je skromniji i samosvesniji,
11:45
I believe that we stand a chance.
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verujem da za nas ima šanse.
11:48
Thank you.
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Hvala.
11:49
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Caitlin Doughty - Progressive morticianCaitlin Doughty asks: What if we re-designed the funeral industry for an eco-friendly end of life?
Why you should listen
Caitlin Doughty is the founder of The Order of the Good Death, a group of funeral industry professionals, academics and artists exploring ways to prepare a death-phobic culture for their inevitable mortality.
With a proclivity for the macabre from an early age, Doughty began her career in the funeral industry as a crematory operator. Currently a licensed funeral director and eco-friendly mortician in Los Angeles, Doughty owns Undertaking LA, a nonprofit funeral home that empowers families to care for their dead. Her first book Smoke Gets In Your Eyes: And Other Lessons from the Crematory is a New York Times bestseller, and her next book From Here to Eternity will be released in fall 2017. Her video web-series, "Ask a Mortician," has been featured on NPR, BBC, Forbes and more.
Caitlin Doughty | Speaker | TED.com