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Tavi Gevinson: A teen just trying to figure it out
Tavi Gevinson: 青少年探索进行时
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15岁的Tavi Gevinson致力于找出强大的女性青少年典范 －－ 所以她设立了一个空间供大家交流。在TEDxTeen，她为大家阐述了她广受欢迎的青少年网络杂志Rookie是如何赋予现代女权主义一种新的毋庸辩护的不确定性及丰富的多元面孔的。（摄于TEDxTeen）
Tavi Gevinson - Blogger and fashion icon
Tavi Gevinson is a fashion blogger and a feminist who encourages everyone to embrace their complexity and look cool doing it. Full bio
Tavi Gevinson is a fashion blogger and a feminist who encourages everyone to embrace their complexity and look cool doing it. Full bio
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Four years ago today, exactly, actually,
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四年前的今天，恰巧是同一天
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I started a fashion blog called Style Rookie.
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我开办了一个时尚博客，名叫菜鸟风尚（Style Rookie）
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Last September of 2011, I started an online magazine
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2011年9月，我创立了一本在线杂志
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for teenage girls called Rookiemag.com.
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面向青少年女生，名叫Rookiemag.com
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My name's Tavi Gevinson, and
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我叫泰薇·盖文森（Tavi Gevinson）
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the title of my talk is "Still Figuring It Out,"
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我今天演讲的题目是“探索进行时”
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and the MS Paint quality of my slides
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我用微软画图板画的这些图
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was a total creative decision in keeping with today's theme,
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完全是为了配合今天主题的大胆创举
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and has nothing to do with my inability
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和我使用PowerPoint的水平
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to use PowerPoint. (Laughter)
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没半点关系（笑声）
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So I edit this site for teenage girls. I'm a feminist.
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这个网站是为青少年女生做的。我是个女权主义者
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I am kind of a pop culture nerd, and I think a lot about
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我是个流行文化迷
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what makes a strong female character,
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对如何成为女强人深有研究
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and, you know, movies and TV shows,
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众所周知，那些电影和电视节目
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these things have influence. My own website.
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是有影响力的。对我的网站也是
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So I think the question of what makes a strong female
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所以我认为女强人的定义
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character often goes misinterpreted,
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通常被人们曲解了
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and instead we get these two-dimensional superwomen
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取而代之的是平面的女超人
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who maybe have one quality that's played up a lot,
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要么鼓吹她某一种特质
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like a Catwoman type,
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比如猫女之类
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or she plays her sexuality up a lot,
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要么夸大她的性欲
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and it's seen as power.
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还被视为能力
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But they're not strong characters who happen to be female.
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但这些都不是女强人形象
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They're completely flat,
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这简直无聊至极
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and they're basically cardboard characters.
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充其量是些纸片人
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The problem with this is that then
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那么问题就来了
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people expect women to be that easy to understand,
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人们希望女人简单易懂
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and women are mad at themselves
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女人因为没那么简单
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for not being that simple,
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而大伤脑筋
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when, in actuality, women are complicated,
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而实际上，女人是复杂的
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women are multifaceted -- not because women are crazy,
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女人是多面的 － 并非因为女人很疯狂
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but because people are crazy,
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而是人类很疯狂
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and women happen to be people. (Laughter)
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而女人正巧是人类（笑声）
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So the flaws are the key.
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所以缺陷也是关键
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I'm not the first person to say this.
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以前也有人这样说过
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What makes a strong female character
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女强人
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is a character who has weaknesses, who has flaws,
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有弱点，也有缺陷
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who is maybe not immediately likable,
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或许你一开始不喜欢她
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but eventually relatable.
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但最终会欣赏她
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I don't like to acknowledge a problem
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我喜欢在认识一些问题的同时
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without also acknowledging those who work to fix it,
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也去了解那些努力解决问题的人
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so just wanted to acknowledge shows like "Mad Men,"
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所以我喜欢看“广告狂人”（Mad Men）这类电视剧
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movies like "Bridesmaids," whose female characters
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和“伴娘”（Bridesmaids）这类电影，这些女性角色
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or protagonists are complex, multifaceted.
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或主人公是复杂的，多面的
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Lena Dunham, who's on here, her show on HBO
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屏幕上写的莉娜·杜汉姆（Lena Dunham），她在HBO的新作
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that premiers next month, "Girls,"
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“都市女孩”（Girls）将于下个月首映
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she said she wanted to start it because she felt that
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她说之所以拍这部作品是因为她觉得
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every woman she knew was just a bundle of contradictions,
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她认识的所有女人都是非常矛盾的
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and that feels accurate for all people,
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而所有人也都这么觉得
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but you don't see women represented like that as much.
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但女人的这一特点并没有被充分表现出来
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Congrats, guys. (Laughs)
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祝贺你们了（笑声）
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But I don't feel that — I still feel that there are some types
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但我不觉得 － 我认为仍有一些女人的类型
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of women who are not represented that way,
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是未曾被展现的
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and one group that we'll focus on today are teens,
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今天我们要关注的一类就是青少年
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because I think teenagers are especially contradictory
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因为我认为青少年是尤其矛盾的
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and still figuring it out,
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仍在不断探索当中
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and in the '90s there was "Freaks and Geeks"
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90年代的“怪胎与书呆”（Freaks and Geeks）
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and "My So-Called Life," and their characters,
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和“我所谓的生活”（My So-Called Life）中的角色
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Lindsay Weir and Angela Chase,
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琳赛·威尔（Lindsay Weir）安吉拉·切丝（Angela Chase）
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I mean, the whole premise of the shows
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整部剧的前提
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were just them trying to figure themselves out, basically,
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基本上就是她们自我探索的过程
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but those shows only lasted a season each,
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可惜那两部剧只播了一季
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and I haven't really seen anything like that on TV since.
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自那以后我再也没看到过类似的电视剧
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So this is a scientific diagram of my brain — (Laughter) —
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这是一张描述我大脑的科学简图（笑声）－-
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around the time when I was,
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是在我看那些电视剧时的
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when I started watching those TV shows.
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写照
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I was ending middle school, starting high school --
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我那时刚从初中升入高中 －-
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I'm a sophomore now —
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我现在高二了 －-
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and I was trying to reconcile
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我一直在设法调和
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all of these differences that you're told you can't be
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那些女孩长大过程中
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when you're growing up as a girl.
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行为规范的各种意见分歧
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You can't be smart and pretty.
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你不能既聪明又漂亮
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You can't be a feminist who's also interested in fashion.
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做女权主义者就不能追逐时髦
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You can't care about clothes if it's not for the sake
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要不是为了别人的眼光，通常指男人
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of what other people, usually men, will think of you.
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你就不能在乎穿着打扮
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So I was trying to figure all that out,
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所以我一直都想弄清楚这是怎么一回事
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and I felt a little confused,
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我感到有些困惑
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and I said so on my blog,
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也有写在博客上
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and I said that I wanted to start
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我说我想
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a website for teenage girls
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为青少年女生办一个网站
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that was not this kind of one-dimensional
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不是那种只展现单一的
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strong character empowerment thing
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强势特点的
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because I think one thing that can be very alienating
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因为我认为对女权主义的误解
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about a misconception of feminism is that
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会让女孩们望而却步
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girls then think that to be a feminist, they have to live up to
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她们会认为作为女权主义者，必须做到
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being perfectly consistent in your beliefs,
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对自己的信仰始终如一
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never being insecure, never having doubts,
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绝不能缺乏自信，绝不能心存疑虑
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having all of the answers. And this is not true,
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要无所不知。但其实并非如此
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and, actually, reconciling all the contradictions I was feeling
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实际上，一旦我明白了女权主义
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became easier once I understood that feminism
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不是一本规则手册，而是一种探讨
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was not a rulebook but a discussion,
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一场对话和一个过程
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a conversation, a process,
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我对各种矛盾的调和就变得容易多了
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and this is a spread from a zine that I made last year
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这是我去年办的一本杂志里的两页
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when I -- I mean, I think I've let myself go a bit
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我是说，打那时起我就已经
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on the illustration front since.
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进军插图界了
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But, yeah.
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不过，好吧
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So I said on my blog that I wanted to start this publication
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所以我就在博客上说我想
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for teenage girls and ask people to submit
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为青少年女生办一本读物，并邀请大家投稿
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their writing, their photography, whatever,
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文章，照片，什么都行
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to be a member of our staff.
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来加入我们的团队
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I got about 3,000 emails.
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我收到了大约3千封邮件
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My editorial director and I went through them and
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我和我的编辑主任读了这些信
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put together a staff of people,
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并组建了一个团队
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and we launched last September.
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于去年九月创刊
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And this is an excerpt from my first editor's letter,
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这是一段我首位编辑来信的摘录
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where I say that Rookie, we don't have all the answers,
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上面说我们“菜鸟”杂志不是无所不知
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we're still figuring it out too, but the point is not to
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我们也在探索当中，但重点不在于
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give girls the answers, and not even give them permission
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为女孩们提供答案，更不是为了向她们颁发
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to find the answers themselves,
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自己寻找答案的许可
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but hopefully inspire them to understand that
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而是希望能让她们了解
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they can give themselves that permission,
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探索的主动权在她们自己手里
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they can ask their own questions, find their own answers,
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她们可以提出自己的问题，找出自己的答案
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all of that, and Rookie, I think we've been trying to make it
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我相信以上种种，以及“菜鸟”杂志
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a nice place for all of that to be figured out.
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为我们解决各种困惑提供了很好的平台
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So I'm not saying, "Be like us,"
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所以我不是在说，“学我们的样子”
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and "We're perfect role models," because we're not,
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和“我们是完美的典范”，因为我们不是
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but we just want to help represent girls
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我们只是想帮助展现女孩们
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in a way that shows those different dimensions.
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多姿多彩的另一面
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I mean, we have articles called
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比如我们有文章名为
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"On Taking Yourself Seriously: How to Not Care What People Think of You,"
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《关注自我：如何忽视别人的眼光》
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but we also have articles like,
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但我们也有文章例如
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oops -- I'm figuring it out!
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《啊噢 －－ 我正在探索》
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Ha ha. (Laughter)
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哈哈（笑声）
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If you use that, you can get away with anything.
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这招真是屡试不爽啊
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We also have articles called
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我们也有文章名为
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"How to Look Like You Weren't Just Crying in Less than Five Minutes."
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《哭脸瞬间消融术》
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So all of that being said, I still really appreciate
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那么以上所有，我仍然十分感谢
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those characters in movies and
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那些电影里的角色
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articles like that on our site,
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和我们网站上的文章
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that aren't just about being totally powerful,
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他们不仅仅是关于强大
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maybe finding your acceptance with yourself
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还包括自我认同
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and self-esteem and your flaws and how you accept those.
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自尊和自身缺点，以及如何对待
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So what I you to take away from my talk,
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那么我希望我的演讲带给大家的是
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the lesson of all of this, is to just be Stevie Nicks.
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这一切的启示是，请学习史蒂薇·妮克丝（Stevie Nicks）
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Like, that's all you have to do. (Laughter)
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学她就对了（笑声）
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Because my favorite thing about her,
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因为我最欣赏她的是
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other than, like, everything, is that
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不同于所有的，就是
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she is very -- has always been
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她非常 －－ 从来都是
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unapologetically present on stage,
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霸气地出现在舞台上
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and unapologetic about her flaws
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从不为她的缺点辩护
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and about reconciling all of her contradictory feelings
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能调和她所有矛盾的感受
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and she makes you listen to them and think about them,
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并能让你倾听，让你思考
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and yeah, so please be Stevie Nicks.
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所以，请学习史蒂薇·妮克丝
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Thank you. (Applause)
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谢谢大家（掌声）
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Tavi Gevinson - Blogger and fashion iconTavi Gevinson is a fashion blogger and a feminist who encourages everyone to embrace their complexity and look cool doing it.
Why you should listen
Born in April 1996, Tavi Gevinson started blogging at age eleven – then rapidly became a bona fide fashion icon. In 2009 she was featured on the cover of Pop magazine and was invited as a special guest to New York Fashion week. Her site for teenage girls, Rookie, broke the one-million page views within five days of launching in September 2011. She’s currently the editor-in-chief and founder of RookieMag.com and writes thestylerookie.com and has written for several publications including Harper's Bazaar, Jezebel, Lula, Pop, and GARAGE magazine.
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