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Jody Williams: A realistic vision for world peace
Jody Williams: Realistična vizija mira u svijetu
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Nobelova laureatkinja za mir Jody Williams iznosi grubu istinu pred san o miru u svijetu, sa svojim razmišljanjima oštrima poput britve o tome što "mir" zapravo znači i nizom dubokih priča koje poniru u kreativnu borbu -- i žrtvu -- onih koji rade za to.
Jody Williams - Nobel peace laureate
Jody Williams won a Nobel Peace Prize for her efforts to eradicate landmines. Now she’s teaming up with five other female peace laureates to empower women to fight violence, injustice and inequality. Full bio
Jody Williams won a Nobel Peace Prize for her efforts to eradicate landmines. Now she’s teaming up with five other female peace laureates to empower women to fight violence, injustice and inequality. Full bio
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I'm actually here
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Ovdje sam zapravo
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to make a challenge to people.
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kako bih iznijela izazov pred ljude.
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I know there have been many challenges made to people.
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Znam kako su mnogi izazovi postavljeni pred ljude.
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The one I'm going to make
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Onaj koji ću ja postaviti
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is that it is time for us to reclaim
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je kako je došlo vrijeme za nas da vratimo
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what peace really means.
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pravo značenje mira.
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Peace is not "Kumbaya, my Lord."
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Mir nije, "Kumbaya, moj Gospodine".
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Peace is not the dove and the rainbow --
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Mir nije golubica i duga --
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as lovely as they are.
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bez obzira koliko su slatke.
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When I see the symbols
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Kada vidim simbole
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of the rainbow and the dove,
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duge i golubice,
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I think of personal serenity.
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pomislim na osobni spokoj.
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I think of meditation.
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Pomislim na meditaciju.
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I do not think
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Ne pomislim
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about what I consider to be peace,
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o onome što ja smatram mirom,
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which is sustainable peace
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a to je održivi mir
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with justice and equality.
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s pravdom i jednakošću.
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It is a sustainable peace
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Održiv mir je onaj
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in which the majority of people
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u kojem većina ljudi
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on this planet
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na ovom planetu
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have access to enough resources
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imaju pristup dovoljnim resursima
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to live dignified lives,
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kako bi dostojanstveno živjeli,
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where these people have enough access
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gdje ti ljudi imaju dovoljan pristup
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to education
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edukaciji
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and health care,
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i zdravstvenoj njezi,
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so that they can live in freedom from want
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tako da mogu živjeti u slobodi od želje
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and freedom from fear.
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i slobodi od straha.
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This is called human security.
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To se zove ljudska sigurnost.
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And I am not a complete pacifist
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I ja nisam potpuni pacifist
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like some of my really, really heavy-duty,
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poput nekih od mojih doista, doista zagriženih
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non-violent friends,
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nenasilnih prijatelja,
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like Mairead McGuire.
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poput Mairead McGuire.
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I understand that humans
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Shvaćam kako su ljudi
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are so "messed up" --
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toliko poremećeni --
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to use a nice word,
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da koristim lijepu riječ,
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because I promised my mom
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jer sam obećala svojoj mami
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I'd stop using the F-bomb in public.
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kako ću prestati koristiti J-bombu u javnosti.
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And I'm trying harder and harder.
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I trudim se sve više i više.
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Mom, I'm really trying.
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Mama, doista se trudim.
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We need a little bit of police;
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Trebamo malo policije,
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we need a little bit of military,
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trebamo malo vojske,
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but for defense.
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ali za obranu.
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We need to redefine
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Moramo redefinirati
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what makes us secure
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ono što nas čini sigurnima
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in this world.
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u ovom svijetu.
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It is not arming our country
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Ne treba naoružavati našu zemlju
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to the teeth.
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do zuba.
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It is not getting other countries
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Ne treba poticati druge zemlje
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to arm themselves to the teeth
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da se naoružaju do zubiju
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with the weapons that we produce
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s oružjima koje mi proizvodimo
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and we sell them.
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i koje prodajemo.
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It is using that money more rationally
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Treba koristiti taj novac racionalnije
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to make the countries of the world secure,
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kako bi učinili zemlje svijeta sigurnijima,
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to make the people of the world secure.
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kako bi učinili ljude svijeta sigurnijima.
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I was thinking about
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Razmišljala sam o
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the recent ongoings
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nedavnim zbivanjima
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in Congress,
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u Kongresu,
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where the president is offering
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gdje predsjednik nudi
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8.4 billion dollars
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8,4 milijarde dolara
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to try to get the START vote.
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kako bi pokušao pokrenuti START glasanje.
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I certainly support the START vote.
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Ja definitivno podupirem START glasanje.
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But he's offering 84 billion dollars
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Ali on nudi 84 milijarde dolara
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for the modernizing
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za modernizaciju
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of nuclear weapons.
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nuklearnog oružja.
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Do you know the figure that the U.N. talks about
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Znate li kako je brojka o kojoj UN govori
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for fulfilling the Millennium Development Goals
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za ispunjenje Milenijskih razvojnih ciljeva
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is 80 billion dollars?
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80 milijardi dolara?
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Just that little bit of money,
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Samo ta mala količina novca,
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which to me, I wish it was in my bank account --
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za koju bih željela da je na mom bankovnom računu --
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it's not, but ...
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nije, ali ...
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In global terms, it's a little bit of money.
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U globalnim terminima to je mala količina novca.
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But it's going to modernize weapons
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Ali poslužiti će za modernizaciju oružja
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we do not need
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koje ne trebamo
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and will not be gotten rid of in our lifetime,
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i kojeg se nećemo riješiti za vrijeme naših života,
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unless we get up off our ...
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osim ako ne ustanemo...
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and take action to make it happen,
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i poduzmemo akciju kako bi to i ostvarili --
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unless we begin to believe
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osim ako ne počnemo vjerovati
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that all of the things that we've been hearing about
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da su sve stvari o kojima smo slušali
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in these last two days
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u protekla dva dana
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are elements of what come together
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elementi onoga što može dovesti zajedno
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to make human security.
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ljudsku sigurnost.
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It is saving the tigers.
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To je spašavanje tigrova.
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It is stopping the tar sands.
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To je zaustavljanje katranskog pijeska.
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It is having access
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To je imati pristup
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to medical equipment
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medicinskoj opremi
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that can actually tell who does have cancer.
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koja može pokazati tko ima rak.
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It is all of those things.
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To su sve te stvari.
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It is using our money for all of those things.
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To je korištenje našeg novca za sve te stvari.
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It is about action.
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Radi se o akciji.
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I was in Hiroshima
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Bila sam u Hirošimi
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a couple of weeks ago,
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prije par tjedana,
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and His Holiness --
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i kod Njegove Svetosti --
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we're sitting there in front of thousands of people in the city,
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sjedimo tamo ispred tisuća ljudi u gradu
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and there were about eight of us Nobel laureates.
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i tamo je bilo oko osam nas nobelovih laureata.
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And he's a bad guy. He's like a bad kid in church.
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A on je opak momak; on je poput zločestog dječaka u crkvi.
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We're staring at everybody, waiting our turn to speak,
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Buljimo u sve, čekajući naš red da govorimo
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and he leans over to me, and he says,
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i on se nagne k meni i kaže,
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"Jody, I'm a Buddhist monk."
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"Jody, ja sam budistički monah".
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I said, "Yes, Your Holiness.
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Rekla sam, "Da, Vaša Svetosti.
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Your robe gives it away."
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Vaša odjeća vas odaje".
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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He said, "You know
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On je rekao, "Znaš
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that I kind of like meditation, and I pray."
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kako ja volim meditaciju i ja se molim."
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I said, "That's good. That's good.
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Rekla sam, "To je dobro. To je dobro.
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We need that in the world.
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Trebamo to u svijetu.
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I don't follow that, but that's cool."
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Nisam sljedbenik, ali to je cool".
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And he says, "But I have become skeptical.
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A on kaže, "Ali postao sam skeptičan.
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I do not believe
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Ne vjerujem
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that meditation and prayer
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kako će meditacija i molitva
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will change this world.
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promijeniti ovaj svijet.
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I think what we need
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Mislim kako je nama potrebna
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is action."
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akcija".
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His Holiness, in his robes,
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Njegova Svetost, u svojoj odjeći,
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is my new action hero.
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je moj novi akcijski heroj.
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I spoke with Aung Sun Suu Kyi
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Pričala sam s Aung Sun Suu Kyi
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a couple of days ago.
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prije par dana.
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As most of you know,
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Kao što većina vas zna,
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she's a hero for democracy in her country, Burma.
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ona je heroj za demokraciju u svojoj zemlji, Mijanmaru.
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You probably also know
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Isto vjerojatno znate
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that she has spent 15 of the last 20 years
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kako je provela 15 od posljednjih 20 godina
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imprisoned for her efforts
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zatvorena zbog svojih napora
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to bring about democracy.
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u promoviranju demokracije.
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She was just released a couple of weeks ago,
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Puštena je prije samo par tjedana
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and we're very concerned to see how long she will be free,
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i jako smo zabrinuti oko toga koliko dugo će biti slobodna,
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because she is already out in the streets in Rangoon,
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jer je već vani na ulicama Rangoona,
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agitating for change.
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agitirajući za promijene.
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She is already out in the streets, working with the party
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Već je vani na ulici, radeći sa strankom
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to try to rebuild it.
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kako bi je pokušala ponovno izgraditi.
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But I talked to her for a range of issues.
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Razgovarala sam s njom o širokoj lepezi problema.
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But one thing that I want to say,
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Ali jedna stvar je koju želim reći,
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because it's similar to what His Holiness said.
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jer je slična onome što je Njegova Svetost rekla.
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She said, "You know, we have a long road to go
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Rekla je, "Znaš, dugačak je put pred nama
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to finally get democracy in my country.
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do konačne demokracije u mojoj zemlji.
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But I don't believe in hope
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Ali ne vjerujem u nadu
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without endeavor.
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bez napora.
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I don't believe in the hope of change,
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Ne vjerujem u nadu promijene,
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unless we take action
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osim ako ne poduzmemo akciju
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to make it so."
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kako bi to i ostvarili."
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Here's another woman hero of mine.
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Ovdje je još jedna žena moj heroj.
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She's my friend, Dr. Shirin Ebadi,
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Ona je moja prijateljica, Dr. Shirin Ebadi,
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the first Muslim woman
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prva muslimanka
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to receive the Nobel Peace Prize.
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koja je dobila Nobelovu nagradu za mir.
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She has been in exile
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Ona je bila u izgnanstvu
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for the last year and a half.
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posljednjih godinu i pol.
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You ask her where she lives -- where does she live in exile?
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Pitajte je gdje živi -- gdje ona živi u izgnanstvu?
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She says the airports of the world.
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Ona kaže po svjetskim aerodromima.
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She is traveling because she was out of the country
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Ona putuje jer je bila izvan zemlje
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at the time of the elections.
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u vrijeme izbora.
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And instead of going home,
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I umjesto da ode doma,
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she conferred with all the other women that she works with,
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ona se konzultirala sa svim drugim ženama s kojima radi
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who said to her, "Stay out. We need you out.
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koje su joj rekle, "Ostani vani. Trebamo te vani.
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We need to be able to talk to you out there,
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Moramo biti u mogućnosti pričati s tobom tamo vani,
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so that you can give the message
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tako da možeš prenijeti poruku
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of what's happening here."
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što se događa ovdje."
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A year and a half --
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Godinu i pol --
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she's out speaking
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ona govori vani
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on behalf of the other women in her country.
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u ime drugih žena u svojoj zemlji.
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Wangari Maathai --
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Wangari Maathai --
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2004 Peace laureate.
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laureatkinja Nobela za mir 2004. godine.
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They call her the "Tree Lady,"
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Zovu je dama drva,
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but she's more than the Tree Lady.
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ali ona je puno više od dame drva.
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Working for peace
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Rad za mir
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is very creative.
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je vrlo kreativan.
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It's hard work every day.
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To je težak posao svaki dan.
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When she was planting those trees,
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Kada je sadila ta drveća,
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I don't think most people understand
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mislim kako većina ljudi nije shvatila
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that, at the same time,
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kako, u isto vrijeme,
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she was using the action
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koristi akciju
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of getting people together to plant those trees
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okupljanja ljudi koji bi posadili ta drveća
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to talk about how to overcome
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da pričaju o tome kako premostiti
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the authoritarian government in her country.
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autoritativnu vladu svoje zemlje.
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People could not gather
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Ljudi se nisu mogli okupiti
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without getting busted and taken to jail.
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bez da su bili uhićeni i odvedeni u zatvor.
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But if they were together planting trees for the environment,
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Ali kada su zajedno sadili drveće za okoliš,
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it was okay --
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to je bilo u redu --
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creativity.
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kreativnost.
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But it's not just iconic women
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Ali nisu samo žene ikone
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like Shirin,
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poput Shirin,
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like Aung Sun Suu Kyi, like Wangari Maathai --
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poput Aung Sun Suu Kyi, poput Wangari Maathai;
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it is other women in the world
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tu su i druge žene u svijetu
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who are also struggling together
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koje se zajedno bore
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to change this world.
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promijeniti ovaj svijet.
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The Women's League of Burma,
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Ženska Liga Mijanmara --
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11 individual organizations of Burmese women
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11 samostalnih organizacija mijanmarskih žena
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came together because there's strength in numbers.
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se okuplja jer postoji snaga u brojkama.
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Working together is what changes our world.
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Raditi zajedno je ono što mijenja naš svijet.
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The Million Signatures Campaign
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Kampanja za milijun potpisa
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of women inside Burma
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žena u Mijanmaru
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working together to change human rights,
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koje rade zajedno kako bi promijenile ljudska prava,
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to bring democracy to that country.
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kako bi dovele demokraciju u tu zemlju.
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When one is arrested and taken to prison,
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Kada je jedna uhićena i odvedena u zatvor,
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another one comes out and joins the movement,
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druga izađe van i pridruži se pokretu --
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recognizing that if they work together,
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uviđajući da, ako rade zajedno,
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they will ultimately bring change
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naposljetku će dovesti promijenu
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in their own country.
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u svoju zemlju.
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Mairead McGuire in the middle,
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Mairead McGuire u sredini,
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Betty Williams on the right-hand side --
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Betty Williams s desne strane --
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bringing peace to Northern Ireland.
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donoseći mir Sjevernoj Irskoj.
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I'll tell you the quick story.
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Ispričati ću vam kratku priču.
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An IRA driver was shot,
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Vozač IRA-e je ustrijeljen
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and his car plowed into people
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i njegov auto se zabio u ljude
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on the side of the street.
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sa strane ceste.
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There was a mother and three children.
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Tamo je bila majka i troje djece.
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The children were killed on the spot.
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Djeca su ubijena na licu mjesta.
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It was Mairead's sister.
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To je bila Maireadina sestra.
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Instead of giving in
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Umjesto predaje
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to grief, depression, defeat
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žalosti, depresiji, porazu
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in the face of that violence,
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u žaru tog nasilja,
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Mairead hooked up with Betty --
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Mairead se povezala s Betty --
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a staunch Protestant and a staunch Catholic --
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čvrsta protestantkinja i čvrsta katolkinja --
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and they took to the streets
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i otišle su na ulice
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to say, "No more violence."
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kako bi rekle, "Ne za još nasilja."
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And they were able to get
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I uspjele su dobiti
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tens of thousands of, primarily, women, some men,
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desetke tisuća, prvenstveno, žena -- neke muškarce --
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in the streets to bring about change.
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na ulice kako bi postigle promijenu.
09:08
And they have been
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I one su bile
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part of what brought peace to Northern Ireland,
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dio onoga što je dovelo mir u Sjevernu Irsku
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and they're still working on it,
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i još uvijek rade na tome,
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because there's still a lot more to do.
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jer još uvijek ima puno toga za napraviti.
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This is Rigoberta Menchu Tum.
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Ovo je Rigoberta Menchu Tum.
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She also received the Peace Prize.
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Ona je isto primila Nobelovu nagradu za mir.
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She is now running for president.
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Sada se kandidira za predsjednicu.
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She is educating the indigenous people of her country
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Ona podučava domorodačke ljude svoje zemlje
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about what it means to be a democracy,
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o tome što znači imati demokraciju,
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about how you bring democracy to the country,
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o tome kako se može dovesti demokracija u zemlju,
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about educating, about how to vote --
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o educiranju o tome kako glasati --
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but that democracy is not just about voting;
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ali kako demokracija nije samo glasanje,
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it's about being an active citizen.
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već biti i aktivni građanin.
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That's what I got stuck doing --
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To je ono što i ja radim --
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the landmine campaign.
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kampanja za nagazne mine.
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One of the things that made this campaign work
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Jedna od stvari koja je omogućila funkcioniranje te kampanje
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is because we grew from two NGOs
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je zato jer smo narasli s dvije neprofitne organizacije
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to thousands
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na tisuće
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in 90 countries around the world,
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u 90 država diljem svijeta,
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working together in common cause to ban landmines.
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radeći zajedno u zajedničkoj svrsi da zabranimo nagazne mine.
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Some of the people who worked in our campaign
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Neki od ljudi koji su radili na našoj kampanji
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could only work maybe an hour a month.
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su možda mogli raditi samo jedan sat mjesečno.
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They could maybe volunteer that much.
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Možda su mogli samo toliko volontirati.
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There were others, like myself,
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Bili su i drugi, poput mene,
10:05
who were full-time.
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koji su bili tamo puno radno vrijeme.
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But it was the actions, together, of all of us
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Ali akcije svih nas zajedno
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that brought about that change.
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su dovele do promijene.
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In my view, what we need today
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Moje mišljenje je da ono što trebamo danas
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is people getting up
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je da ljudi ustanu
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and taking action
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i krenu u akciju
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to reclaim the meaning of peace.
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kako bi vratili značenje mira.
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It's not a dirty word.
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To nije prljava riječ.
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It's hard work every single day.
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To je težak posao svaki dan.
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And if each of us
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I kada bi svatko
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who cares about the different things we care about
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tko mari o različitim stvarima od nas
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got up off our butts
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ustao sa svojih guzica
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and volunteered
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i volontirao
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as much time as we could,
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koliko god vremena je moguće,
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we would change this world,
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promijenili bismo ovaj svijet,
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we would save this world.
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spasili bi ovaj svijet.
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And we can't wait for the other guy. We have to do it ourselves.
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I ne možemo čekati na nekog drugoga; moramo to učiniti sami.
10:41
Thank you.
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Hvala vam.
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Jody Williams - Nobel peace laureateJody Williams won a Nobel Peace Prize for her efforts to eradicate landmines. Now she’s teaming up with five other female peace laureates to empower women to fight violence, injustice and inequality.
Why you should listen
In more than 100 years of Nobel Peace Prizes, only a dozen women have ever won. Civil-rights and peace activist Jody Williams, received the award in 1997 as the chief strategist of the International Campaign to Ban Landmines, which established the first global treaty banning antipersonnel mines.
Williams believes that peace is defined by human (not national) security and that it must be achieved through sustainable development, environmental justice, and meeting people’s basic needs. To this end, she co-founded the Nobel Women’s Initiative, endorsed by six of seven living female Peace laureates. She chairs the effort to support activists, researchers, and others working toward peace, justice, and equality for women and thus humanity. Williams also continues to fight for the total global eradication of landmines.
Jody Williams | Speaker | TED.com