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Michael Moschen: Juggling as art ... and science
Michael Moschen žonglira ritam i kretanje
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Michael Moschen izvodi tihu očaravajuću predstavu žongliranja. Ne razmišljate o žongliranju kao o umjetnosti? Mogli biste promijeniti svoje mišljenje kada vidi Moschena u akciji.
Michael Moschen - Juggler
Quite simply, Michael Moschen has revolutionized juggling, refining it into an art and a bit of a science. With a few flying balls and well-chosen props he will completely re-wire your notions of the physically possible. Full bio
Quite simply, Michael Moschen has revolutionized juggling, refining it into an art and a bit of a science. With a few flying balls and well-chosen props he will completely re-wire your notions of the physically possible. Full bio
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00:19
I started juggling a long time ago,
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Počeo sam žonglirati prije mnogo vremena,
00:21
but long before that, I was a golfer, and that's what I was, a golfer.
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ali puno prije toga bio sam golfer i to je ono što sam bio, golfer.
00:27
And as a golfer and as a kid,
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I kao golfer i kao dijete
00:31
one of the things that really sort of seeped into my pores,
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jedna od stvari koja se slila u moje pore,
00:34
that I sort of lived my whole life, is process.
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koju sam živio cijeli život, je proces.
00:37
And it's the process of learning things.
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A to je proces učenja stvari.
00:39
One of the great things was that my father was an avid golfer, but he was lefty.
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Jedna od najvećih stvari je bila kako je moj otac bio strastven golfer, ali bio je ljevoruk.
00:43
And he had a real passion for golf,
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I imao je pravu strast za golfom
00:45
and he also created this whole mythology
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i stvorio je tu cijelu mitologiju
00:48
about Ben Hogan and various things.
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o Benu Hoganu i raznim stvarima.
00:50
Well, I learned a lot about interesting things
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Dakle, naučio sam mnogo zanimljivih stvari
00:52
that I knew nothing about at the time, but grew to know stuff about.
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o kojima ništa nisam znao u to vrijeme, već sam odrastao učeći o stvarima.
00:56
And that was the mythology of skill.
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A to je bila mitologija vještine.
00:59
So, one of the things that I love to do is to explore skill.
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Dakle, jedna od stvari koje volim raditi je istraživati vještinu.
01:02
And since Richard put me on this whole thing with music --
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A kako me Richard stavio u cijelu tu stvar s glazbom,
01:06
I'm supposed to actually be doing a project with Tod Machover
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morao bih raditi zapravo projekt s Todom Machoverom
01:09
with the MIT Media Lab -- it relates a lot to music.
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s MIT-ovog medijskog laboratorija, koji se bavi glazbom.
01:11
But Tod couldn't come and the project is sort of somewhere,
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Ali Tod nije moga doći, a projekt je negdje,
01:14
I'm not sure whether it's happening the way we thought, or not.
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ne znam događa li se onako kako smo zamislili, ili ne.
01:17
But I'm going to explore skill, and juggling,
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Ali istražit ću vještinu i žongliranje
01:21
and basically visual music, I guess.
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i vjerujem, vizualnu glazbu.
01:28
OK, you can start the music, thanks.
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U redu, možete pokrenuti glazbu, hvala.
01:30
(Music)
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(Glazba)
04:28
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
04:31
Thanks. Thank you. Now, juggling can be a lot of fun;
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Hvala. Hvala vam. Sada, žongliranje može biti jako zabavno,
04:40
play with skill and play with space, play with rhythm.
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igra s vještinom i igra s prostorom, igra s ritmom.
04:44
And you can turn the mike on now. I'm going to do a couple of pieces.
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I možete pojačati mikrofon sada, izvest ću par točaka.
04:47
I do a big piece in a triangle
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Radim veliku točku u trokutu
04:50
and these are three sections from it.
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a ovo su tri dijela iz te točke.
04:52
Part of the challenge was to try to understand rhythm and space
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Dio izazova je bio pokušati shvatiti ritam i prostor
04:55
using not just my hands -- because a lot of juggling is hand-oriented --
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ne koristeći samo svoje ruke -- jer puno žongliranja je orijentirano na ruke --
04:59
but using the rhythm of my body and feet,
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već koristeći ritam mog tijela i stopala
05:01
and controlling the balls with my feet.
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i kontrolirajući lopte s mojim stopalima.
06:22
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
06:27
Thanks. Now, this next section was an attempt to explore space.
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Hvala. Sada, ovaj dio je bio pokušaj istraživanja prostora.
06:35
You see, I think Richard said something about people that are against something.
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Vidite, mislim kako je Richard rekao nešto o ljudima koji su protiv nečega.
06:39
Well, a lot of people think jugglers defy gravity or do stuff.
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Pa, mnogo ljudi misli kako žongleri prkose gravitaciji ili rade stvari.
06:45
Well, I kind of, from my childhood and golf and all that,
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Pa, ja, još od mog djetinjstva i golfa i svega toga,
06:48
it's a process of joining with forces.
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to je proces udruživanja sa silama.
06:51
And so what I'd like to do is try to figure out
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A ono što bih volio učiniti jest pokušati dokučiti
06:52
how to join with the space through the technique.
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kako se spojiti s prostorom kroz tehniku.
06:55
So juggling gravity -- up, down.
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Dakle, žongliranje gravitacijom -- gore, dolje.
07:00
If you figure out what up and down really are,
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Ukoliko dokučite što su zapravo gore i dolje,
07:07
it's a complex physical set of skills
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dovoljno je kompleksan fizički set vještina
07:09
to be able to throw a ball down and up and everything,
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bacanja lopte dolje i gore i sve to,
07:12
but then you add in sideways.
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ali tada još dodate postrance.
07:37
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
07:43
Now, I look at it somewhat as a way -- when you learn juggling
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Sada, gledam na to nekako kao način -- kada učite žonglirati
07:48
what you learn is how to feel with your eyes, and see with your hands
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ono što učite jest kako osjećati pomoću svojih očiju i vidjeti pomoću svojih ruku
07:52
because you're not looking at your hands,
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jer ne gledate u svoje ruke,
07:54
you're looking at where the balls are or you're looking at the audience.
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gledate gdje se loptice nalaze ili gledate u publiku.
07:57
So this next part is really a way of understanding space and rhythm,
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Dakle, ovaj idući dio je doista način razumijevanja prostora i ritma
08:02
with the obvious reference to the feet,
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s očitim naglaskom na stopala.
08:04
but it's also time -- where the feet were, where the balls were.
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Ali to je ujedno i vrijeme gdje su bila stopala, gdje su bile loptice.
09:25
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
09:35
Thanks. So, visual music: rhythm and complexity.
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Hvala. Dakle, vizualna glazba, ritam i kompleksnost.
09:40
I'm going to build towards complexity now.
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Ići ću sada prema kompleksnosti.
09:42
Juggling three balls is simple and normal.
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Žongliranje s tri loptice je jednostavno i normalno.
09:46
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:48
Excuse me.
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Oprostite.
09:50
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:52
We're jugglers, OK. And remember, you're transposing,
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Mi smo žongleri, u redu. I zapamtite, vi se prenosite,
09:55
you're getting into a subculture here.
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ulazite ovdje u subkulturu.
09:57
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
09:58
And juggling -- the balls cross and all that.
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I žongliranje loptica poprijeko i sve to.
10:01
OK, if you keep them in their assigned paths you get parallel lines
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U redu, ukoliko ih držite u njihovim dodjeljenim stanjima dobit ćete paralelne linije
10:05
of different heights, but then hopefully even rhythm.
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različitih visina, ali tada ćete vjerojatno dobiti i ritam.
10:08
And you can change the rhythm -- good, Michael.
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A možete i promijeniti ritam -- dobar Michael.
10:12
You can change the rhythm, if you get out of the lights.
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Možete promijeniti ritam ukoliko se maknete sa svijetla.
10:14
OK? Change the rhythm, so it's even.
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U redu? Promijenite ritam tako da je ravnomjerno.
10:18
Or you can go back and change the height. Now, skill.
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Ili se možete vratiti natrag i promijeniti visinu. Sada, vještina.
10:24
But you're boxed in, if you can only do it up and down that way.
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Ali strpani ste u kutiju ukoliko možete samo gore i dolje na taj način.
10:28
So, you've got to go after the space down there.
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Dakle, morate ići za prostorom tamo dolje.
10:37
OK, then you've got to combine them,
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U redu, zatim ih morate kombinirati
10:40
because then you have the whole spatial palette in front of you.
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jer tada imate cijelu prostornu paletu ispred sebe.
10:49
And then you get crazy.
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I zatim poludite.
10:59
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
11:03
Now, I'm actually going to ask you to try something,
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Sada, zamoliti ću vas zapravo da pokušate učiniti nešto
11:07
so you've got to pay attention. Complexity:
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stoga morate obratiti pozornost. Kompleksnost,
11:10
if you spend enough time doing something, time slows down
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ukoliko provedete dovoljno vremena radeći nešto, vrijeme se uspori
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or your skill increases, so your perceptions change.
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ili se vaše vještine povećaju pa se stoga i vaše percepcije promijene.
11:17
It's learning skills -- like being in a high-speed car crash.
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To je učenje vještina poput biti u autmobilskoj nesreći pri velikoj brzini.
11:21
Things slow down as you learn, as you learn, as you learn.
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Stvari uspore s učenjem, s učenjem, s učenjem.
11:24
You may not be able to affect it, it almost drifts on you. It goes.
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Možda nećete moći utjecati na to, gotovo se nanese na vas, ode.
11:28
But that's the closest approximation I can have to it.
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Ali to je najbliža aproksimacija koju imam.
11:31
So, complexity. Now, how many here are jugglers?
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Dakle, kompleksnost. Sada, koliko vas ovdje su žongleri?
11:37
OK, so most of you are going to have a similar reaction to this.
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U redu, dakle većina vas će imati sličnu reakciju na ovo.
11:48
OK? And whoever laughed there --
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U redu? I tkogod da se smijao tamo --
11:50
you understood it completely, right?
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vi ste u potpunosti to shvatili, točno?
11:52
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
11:54
No, it looks like a mess. It looks like a mess with a guy there,
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Ne, izgleda poput nereda. Izgleda poput nereda s čovjekom tamo
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who's got his hands around that mess, OK.
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koji ima svoje ruke u tom neredu, u redu.
12:00
Well, that's what juggling is about, right?
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Pa, to je žongliranje, zar ne?
12:02
It's being able to do something that other people can't do or can't understand.
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To je mogućnost činiti nešto što drugi ljudi ne mogu učiniti ili ne mogu shvatiti.
12:06
All right. So, that's one way of doing it, which is five balls down.
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U redu. Dakle, to je jedan način kako to možete učiniti, s pet loptica.
12:09
OK? Another way is the outside.
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U redu? Drugi način je izvana.
12:14
And you could play with the rhythm.
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I možete se igrati s ritmom.
12:18
Same pattern.
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Isti obrazac.
12:21
Make it faster and smaller.
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Učinite ga bržim i manjim.
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Make it wider.
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Učinite ga širim.
12:27
Make it narrower.
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Učinite ga užim.
12:32
Bring it back up.
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Dovedite ga opet gore.
12:35
OK. It's done. Thanks.
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U redu. Gotovo je. Hvala.
12:38
(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
12:41
Now, what I wanted to get to is that you're all very bright, very tactile.
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Sada, ono na što sam ciljao je kako ste svi vi jako pametni, jako taktilni.
12:48
I have no idea how computer-oriented or three-dimensionally-oriented you are,
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Ne znam koliko ste računalno ili trodimenzionalno orijentirani,
12:53
but let's try something.
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ali pokušajmo nešto.
12:55
OK, so since you all don't understand what the five-ball pattern is,
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U redu, kako svi vi ne razumijete što je obrazac od pet loptica
13:01
I'm going to give you a little clue.
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dati ću vam malu indiciju.
13:14
Enough of a clue? So, you get the pattern, right? OK.
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Dovoljno indicije? Dakle, shvatili ste obrazac, zar ne? U redu.
13:18
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
13:21
You're not getting off that easy. All right?
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Nećete se tako lako spasiti. U redu?
13:26
Now, do me a favor: follow the ball that I ask you to follow.
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Sada, učinite mi uslugu. Slijedite lopticu koju vas zamolim da slijedite.
13:31
Green.
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Zelena.
13:33
Yellow.
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Žuta.
13:35
Pink.
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Roza.
13:37
White.
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Bijela.
13:40
OK, you can do that? Yeah? OK.
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U redu, možete to učiniti? Da? U redu.
13:43
Now, let's actually learn something.
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Sada, hajdemo zapravo nešto zajedno naučiti.
13:46
Actually, let me put you in that area of learning, which is very insecure.
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Zapravo, dopustite mi da vas stavim u to područje učenja, koje je vrlo nesigurno.
13:51
You want to do it? Yeah? OK.
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Želite to učiniti? Da? U redu.
13:55
Hands out in front of you. Palms up, together.
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Stavite ruke ispred sebe. Dlanovi prema gore. Zajedno.
14:00
What you're going to learn is this.
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Ono što ćete naučiti je ovo.
14:03
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
14:05
OK? So what I want you to do is just listen to me and do it.
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U redu? Dakle, ono što želim je da me samo slušate i učinite to.
14:09
Index finger, middle finger, ring, little.
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Kažiprst, srednji prst, domali prst, mali prst.
14:12
Little, ring, middle, index. And then open.
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Mali, domali, srednji, kažiprst. I zatim otvorite.
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Finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger.
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Prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst.
14:20
A little bit faster.
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Malo brže.
14:22
Finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger.
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Prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst.
14:24
Finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger.
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Prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst.
14:28
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
14:29
All right. A lot of different learning processes going on in here.
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U redu. Puno različitog procesa učenja se događa ovdje.
14:33
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
14:35
One learning process that I see is this --
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Jedan proces učenja koji vidim je ovaj --
14:38
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
14:40
OK. Another learning process that I see is this --
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U redu. Drugi proces učenja koji vidim je ovaj --
14:45
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
14:48
OK. So, everybody take a deep breath in, breath out. OK.
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U redu. Dakle, svi duboko udahnite, izdahnite. U redu.
14:53
Now, one more time, and --
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Sada, još jednom i --
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finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger. Open.
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prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst. Otvorite.
14:59
Finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger. OK.
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Prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst. U redu.
15:02
Shake your hands out.
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Istresite svoje ruke.
15:04
Now, I assume a lot of you spend a lot of time at a computer.
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Sada, pretpostavit ću kako puno vas provodi puno vremena za računalom?
15:07
OK? So, what you're doing is, you're going la, la, la,
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U redu? Dakle, ono što radite je, idete la, la, la,
15:10
and you're getting this. OK?
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i dobivate ovo. U redu?
15:12
So that's exactly what I'm going to ask you to do,
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Dakle, to je potpuno jednako onome što ću vas ja tražiti
15:14
but in a slightly different way. You're going to combine it.
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samo na malo drugačiji način. Kombinirati ćete to.
15:17
So what I want you to do is -- fingers.
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Dakle, ono što želim da radite su prsti.
15:20
I'll tell you what to do with your fingers, same thing.
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Reći ću vam što da radite sa svojim prstima, ista stvar.
15:22
But I want you to do is also, with your eyes,
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Ali želim i da isto tako svojim očima,
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is follow the colored ball that I ask you to follow.
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pratite obojenu lopticu za koju vam kažem da je pratite.
15:28
(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
15:30
OK? Here we go.
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U redu? Idemo.
15:32
So, we're going to start off looking at the white ball --
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Dakle početi ćemo gledajući u bijelu lopticu --
15:34
and I'm going to tell you which color,
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i reći ću vam koja boja
15:36
and I'm also going to tell you to go with your fingers. OK?
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i isto ću vam reći da idete sa svojim prstima. U redu?
15:38
So white ball and --
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Dakle, bijela loptica i --
15:41
finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger. Pink.
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Prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst. Roza.
15:46
Finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger. Green.
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Prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst. Zelena.
15:51
Finger, finger, finger, finger. Yellow.
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Prst, prst, prst, prst. Žuta.
15:54
Finger, finger, finger, pink or finger.
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Prst, prst, prst, prst, roza ili prst.
15:57
Pink, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger, finger.
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Roza, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst, prst.
16:02
All right.
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U redu.
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(Applause)
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How did you do? Well? OK. The reason I wanted you to do this is
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Kako ste prošli? Dobro? U redu? Razlog zbog kojega sam želio da to učinite je
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because that's actually what most people face throughout their lives,
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zato jer je to zapravo ono s čime se većina ljudi suočava tijekom svojih života,
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a moment of learning, a moment of challenge.
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trenutak učenja, trenutak izazova.
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It's a moment that you can't make sense of.
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To je trenutak koji nema smisao.
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Why the hell should I learn this? OK?
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Zašto bih, kvragu, učio to? U redu?
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Does it really have anything to do with anything in my life?
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Ima li doista ikakve veze s bilo čime u mom životu?
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You know, I can't decipher -- is it fun? Is it challenging? Am I supposed to cheat?
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Znate, ne mogu dešifrirati -- je li zabavno? Je li izazovno? Očekuje li se od mene da varam?
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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You know, what are you supposed to do?
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Znate, što se od vas očekuje da učinite?
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You've got somebody up here who is the operative principle
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Imate nekoga ovdje gore kojemu je operativno načelo
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of doing that for his whole life. OK?
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da radi to cijeli svoj život. U redu?
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Trying to figure that stuff out. But is it going to get you anywhere?
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Pokušati shvatiti te stvari. Ali hoće li vas to odvesti ikamo?
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It's just a moment. That's all it is, a moment. OK?
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To je samo trenutak. To je sve što jest, trenutak. U redu?
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I'm going to change the script for one second. Just let me do this.
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Promijenit ću scenarij na sekundu. Dopustite mi da napravim to.
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I don't need music for it. Talking about time in a moment.
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Ne trebam glazbu za to. Govoriti o vremenu u trenutku.
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There's a piece that I recently developed which was all about that,
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Postoji djelo koje sam nedavno osmislio a u kojem se radi o tome,
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a moment. And what I do as a creative artist
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o trenutku. A ono što radim kao kreativni umjetnik
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is I develop vocabularies or languages of moving objects.
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je da ja razvijam vokabulare ili jezike predmeta koji se kreću.
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What I've done for you here, I developed a lot of those tricks
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Ono što sam učinio za vas ovdje, osmislio sam mnogo tih trikova
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and I put the choreography together,
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i sastavio koreografiju,
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but they're not original techniques.
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ali one nisu originalne tehnike.
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Now, I'm going to start showing you some original techniques
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Sada, početi ću vam prikazivati neke originalne tehnike
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that come from the work that I've developed. OK?
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koje proizlaze iz rada koji sam osmislio. U redu?
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So, a moment, how would you define a moment?
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Dakle, trenutak, kako biste definirali trenutak?
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Well, as a juggler, what I wanted to do was create something
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Pa, kao žongler želio sam stvoriti nešto
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that was representational of a moment.
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što je bilo reprezentiralo trenutak.
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Ahhh.
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Aaargghhh.
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All right, I'm going to get on my knees and do it.
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U redu, kleknuti ću i učiniti ću to.
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So, a moment.
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Dakle trenutak.
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(Rattling)
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OK? And then, what I did as a juggler was say,
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U redu? I zatim sam kao žongler rekao
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OK, what can I do to make that something
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u redu, što mogu napraviti da učinim to nešto
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that is dependent on something else, another dynamic.
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što ovisi o nečem drugom, još dinamičnijim.
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(Rattling)
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So, a moment.
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Dakle, trenutak.
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(Rattling)
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Another moment.
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Još jedan trenutak.
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(Rattling)
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Excuse me, still getting there. A moment that travels.
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Oprostite, još uvijek idem tamo. Trenutak koji putuje.
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A moment -- no, we'll try that again. It separates, and comes back together.
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Trenutak -- ne, pokušati ćemo to ponovno. Razdvaja se i dolazi natrag zajedno.
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Time. How can you look at time?
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Vrijeme. Kako možete gledati na vrijeme?
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And what do you dedicate it to, in exploring a particular thing?
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I čemu ga dodjeljujete u istraživanju neke posebne stvari?
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Well, obviously, there's something in here,
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Pa, očito je kako ima nečeg ovdje unutra,
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and you can all have a guess as to what it is.
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a svi vi možete pogađati što je to.
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There's a mystery. There's a mystery in the moment.
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Postoji tajna. Postoji tajna u trenutku.
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And it has to settle. And then it's dependent on something else.
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I mora se primiriti. I zatim ovisi o nečemu drugom.
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And then it comes to rest. Just a little thing about time.
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Dokaz -- a zatim dolazi do mirovanja. Sama mala stvar o vremenu.
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Now, this has expanded into a much bigger piece,
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Sada, ovo se razvilo u puno veće djelo
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because I use ramps of different parabolas that I roll the balls on
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jer koristim platforme s različitim parabolama na koje kotrljam loptice
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while I'm keeping time with this.
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dok sam u vremenskom skladu s tim.
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But I just thought I'd talk about a moment.
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Ali pomislio sam kako bih pričao o trenutku.
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(Pljesak)
19:20
All right. OK. Can we show the video of the triangle?
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U redu. OK. Možemo li prikazati video s trokutom?
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Are we ready to do that? Yes?
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Jesmo li spremni da to učinimo? Da?
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This is the piece that I told you about.
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Ovo je djelo o kojem sam vam pričao.
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It's a much bigger piece that I do exploring the space of a geometric triangle.
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To je puno veće djelo koje radim istražujući prostor geometrijskog trokuta.
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(Pljesak)
20:34
Thanks. The only thing I'll say about the last session is,
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Hvala. Jedina stvar koju ću reći za zadnju sekciju je,
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you ever try juggling and driving the car with your knees
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pokušavate li ikada žonglirati i voziti auto svojim koljenima
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at 120 miles an hour?
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pri brzini od 190 kilometara na sat?
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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The only other thing is, it was a real shock.
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Jedina druga stvar koja je bila pravi šok,
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I always drove motorcycles. And when I bought my first car, it shocked me
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ja uvijek vozim motore. A kada sam si kupio prvi auto šokiralo me
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that it cost three times more than my parents' house. Interesting.
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kako je bio tri puta skuplji od kuće mojih roditelja. Zanimljivo.
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Anyway, balance:
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Kakogod, ravnoteža --
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constant movement to find an approach to stillness.
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neprestano kretanje kako bi se pronašao pristup mirnoći.
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Cheating.
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Varanje.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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Balance: making up the rules so you can't cheat,
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Ravnoteža -- izmišljanje pravila tako da ne možete varati,
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so you learn to approach stillness with different parts of your body.
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tako da naučite pristupiti mirnoći s različitim dijelovima svog tijela.
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To have a conversation with it. To speak. To listen.
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Tako da možete imati razgovor s njom. Pričati. Slušati.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
21:36
Hup. Now, it's dependent on rhythm,
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Hup. Sada, ovisi o ritmu
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and keeping a center of balance. When it falls, going underneath.
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i održavanju središta ravnoteže kada padne, ode ispod.
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So, there's a rhythm to it.
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Dakle postoji ritam koji ide k tome.
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The rhythm can get much smaller.
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Ritam može postati puno manji.
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As your skill increases, you learn to find those tinier spaces,
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Kako se vaša vještina povećava, naučite pronalaziti te majušne prostore,
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those tinier movements. Thanks.
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te majušne pokrete. Hvala.
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
22:15
Now, I'm going to show you the beginnings of a piece
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Sada, pokazati ću vam početke djela
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that is about balance in some ways, and also --
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u kojem se na neki način radi o ravnoteži i isto tako --
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oh, actually, if you're bored, not here, here's one use for it.
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oh, zapravo, ukoliko vam je dosadno, ne ovdje, evo jedne moguće primjene.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
22:40
You can go with the "Sticks One" music.
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Možete ići sa štapovima jedne glazbe.
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(Music)
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(Glazba)
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Thanks. That has a certain kind of balance to it, which is all about plumb.
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Hvala. To ima određenu ravnotežu u kojoj se sve radi o visku.
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I apprenticed with a carpenter and learned about plumb, square and level.
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Bio sam šegrt kod stolara i naučio o visku, kvadratu i o ravnini.
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And they influenced that, and this next piece, which I'll do a little segment of.
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I oni su utjecali na to i na ovo sljedeće djelo, čiji ću mali segment izvesti.
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"Two Sticks," you can go with it. Thanks.
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Dva štapa, možete početi. Hvala.
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Which is again exploring space, or the lines in space.
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Što je opet istraživanje prostora, ili linija u prostoru.
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(Music)
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(Applause)
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25:46
Working with space and the lines in space in a different way.
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Radeći s prostorom i linijama u prostoru na drugačiji način.
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Oh, let's see here.
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Oh, da vidimo ovdje.
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(Applause)
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26:29
So, I'll come back to that in a second. But working with one ball,
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Dakle, vratiti ću se na to za trenutak. Ali raditi s jednom lopticom,
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now, what if you attach something to it, or change it.
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sada, što ako zakačite nešto za nju, ili je promijenite.
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This is a little thing that I made
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Ovo je mala stvar koju sam napravio
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because I really like the idea of curves and balls together.
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jer mi se doista sviđa ideja krivina i loptica zajedno.
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And then creating space and the rhythm of space,
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I zatim stvarati prostor i ritam prostora
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using the surface of the balls, the surface of the arms.
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koristeći površinu loptica, površinu ruku.
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Just a little toy. Which leads me to the next thing,
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Samo mala igračka. Što me vodi na slijedeću stvar,
27:04
which is --
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a koja je --
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what have I got here? OK. All right.
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što imam ovdje? U redu. U redu.
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I'm actually leading up to something,
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Zapravo vas uvodim u nešto,
27:20
the newest thing that I'm working on. This is not it.
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najnovija stvar na kojoj radim. To nije to.
27:24
This is exploring geometry and the rhythm of shape.
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To je istraživanje geometrije i ritma oblika.
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
28:20
Now, what I just did was I worked with the mathematics --
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Sada, ono što sam upravo učinio jest da sam radio s matematikom,
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the diameter and the circumference.
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promjerom i obujmom.
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Sometimes these pieces are mathematical, in that way
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Nekada su ti dijelovi matematički na taj način
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that I look at a shape and say, what about if I use this and this and this.
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da pogledam u oblik i kažem, što ako koristim ovo i ovo i ovo.
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Sometimes what happens in life affects my choice
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Nekada ono što mi se dogodi u životu utječe na moj izbor
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of objects that I try to work with.
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objekata s kojima pokušavam raditi.
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The next piece that I'm going to do -- which is the cylinders piece,
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Idući djelo koje ću izvesti, je djelo s cilindrima
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if you want to get that up --
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ukoliko želite toliko ustati.
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it has to do with cylinder seals from about 5,000 years ago,
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Ima veze s brtvama cilindara otprije oko 5.000 godina
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which were stones with designs that were used to roll over wet clay
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koje su bile kamenje s dizajnom koji se upotrebljavao kako bi se prekotrljale preko mokre gline
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with all sorts of great designs. I love ceramics and all of that.
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sa svim vrstama odličnog dizajna. Volim keramiku i sve to.
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It's a combination of that, the beauty of that, the shape,
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To je kombinacija toga, ljepota ovoga, oblik
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and the stories that were involved in it,
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i priče koje su u nju uključene
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as well as the fact that they protected the contents.
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kao i činjenica kako su štitile sadržaj.
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The second influence on this piece came from recycling
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Idući utjecaj na to djelo je došao iz recikliranja
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and looking into a tin can recycling bin
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i gledanja u koš za reciklažu limenki
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and seeing all that beautiful emptiness.
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i promatranja sve te prekrasne praznoće.
29:24
So, if you want to go with the music for cylinders.
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Dakle, ukoliko biste bili voljni započeti s glazbom za cilindre.
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
32:20
Talking about geometry and everything,
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Pričajući o geometriji i svemu,
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if you take the circle and you split it in half --
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uzmete li krug i prepolovite ga na dva dijela.
32:28
can you run "S-Curve music?"
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Možete li pokrenuti glazbu S-krivulje?
32:30
I'm going to do just a short version of it.
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Izvesti ću samo kratku verziju toga.
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Circles split in half and rotated, and mythology.
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Krugovi prepolovljeni i rotiraju i mitologija.
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(Music)
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
34:24
Anyway, that piece also has a kinetic sculpture in the middle of it,
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Kakogod, ta izvedba ima i kinetičku skulpturu u sredini
34:29
and I dance around a small stage so --
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i ja plešem oko male pozornice pa --
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two minutes, just to end? The latest piece that I'm working on --
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dvije minute do kraja? Posljednje djelo na kojem radim --
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what I love is that I never know what I'm working on, why I'm working on it.
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ono što volim je kako nikada ne znam na čemu radim, zašto radim na tome.
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They're not ideas, they're instincts.
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To nisu ideje, to su instinkti.
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And the latest thing that I'm working on --
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A zadnja stvar na kojoj radim --
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(Clattering) --
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(Klopotanje)
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is something really -- I don't know what it is yet.
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je doista nešto -- ne znam još što je.
34:56
And that's good. I like not to know for as long as possible.
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I to je dobro. Volim kada ne znam što je duže moguće.
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Well, because then it tells me the truth,
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Jer tada mi ono kaže istinu,
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instead of me imposing the truth.
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umjesto da ja namečem istinu.
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And what it is, is working with both positive and negative space
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A ono što jest, to je rad i s pozitivnim i negativnim prostorom
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but also with these curves.
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ali isto tako i s tim krivinama.
35:12
And what it involves,
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A ono što uključuje
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and I don't know if my hands are too beaten up to do it or not,
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i ne znam jesu li moje ruke preumorne da to učinim ili ne,
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but I'll do a little bit of it.
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ali izvesti ću mali dio toga.
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It initially started off with me stacking these things,
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Inicijalno je započelo kada sam ja skladištio te stvari,
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bunches of them, and then playing with the sense of space,
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hrpe njih i zatim se igrajući sa smislom prostora,
35:28
of filling in the space. And then it started changing,
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ispunjavanja prostora. I zatim se počelo mijenjati
35:37
and become folding on themselves.
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i počelo sklapati na sebe.
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And then changing levels.
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I zatim mjenjati razine.
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Because my attempt is to make visual instruments,
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Jer moj pokušaj je napraviti vizualne instrumente,
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not to just make -- I'll try one other thing.
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ne samo napraviti -- pokušati ću jednu drugu stvar.
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For work in three dimensions, with your perceptions of space and time.
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Za rad u tri dimenzije, s vašom percepcijom prostora i vremena.
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Now, I don't know exactly where it's going,
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Sada, ne znam točno gdje to ide
36:06
but I've got a bit of effort involved in this thing.
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ali uložio sam dosta truda u tu stvar.
36:08
And it's going to change as I go through it.
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I mijenjati će se kako prolazim kroz to.
36:12
But I really like it, it feels right.
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Ali doista mi se sviđa, doima se stvarnim.
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This may not be the right shape, and -- look at this shape,
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Ovo možda nije pravi oblik i gledati ću ovaj oblik
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and then I'll show you the first design I ever put to it,
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i zatim ću vam pokazati prvi dizajn koji sam stavio u nju
36:22
just to see, just to play,
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samo da vidite, samo da se igrate,
36:25
because I love all different kinds of things to play with.
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jer se volim igrati s različitim stvarima.
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Let's see here.
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Da vidimo ovdje.
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To work with the positive and negative in a different way.
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Raditi s pozitivnim i negativnim na različit način.
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And to change, and to change.
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I mijenjati, i mijenjati.
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So, I'm off in my new direction with this to explore rhythm and space.
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Dakle, odlazim s tim u moj novi smjer kako bih otkrio ritam i prostor.
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We'll see what I come up with. Thanks for having me.
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Vidjeti ćemo što sam osmislio. Hvala vam što ste me ugostili.
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Michael Moschen - JugglerQuite simply, Michael Moschen has revolutionized juggling, refining it into an art and a bit of a science. With a few flying balls and well-chosen props he will completely re-wire your notions of the physically possible.
Why you should listen
A high school dropout turned MacArthur "genius grant" recipient, Michael Moschen is an art juggler, spawning scores of imitators and an entire methodology of crystal-ball juggling he likes to call Dynamic Manipulation. (The previously mentioned imitators call it "Contact Juggling," a term that Moschen himself despises.)
With a penchant for discipline, choreography, and catching flying balls -- and using props that include flaming torches, hoops, rods, and a ten-foot plastic triangle enclosure within which he stands, bouncing balls against the sides to achieve incredible patterns and velocities -- he creates illusions of speed and light that push the envelope of what is possible within this age-old circus art. Many of his techniques and routines are showcased in In Motion with Michael Moschen, a program produced in 1991 for National Public Television's Great Performances series.
Michael Moschen | Speaker | TED.com