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Pamelia Kurstin: The untouchable music of the theremin
파멜리아 커스틴의 테레민 연주 -- 손 댈 수 없는 음악을 만나보세요.
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Virtuoso Pamelia Kurstin이 악기에 손을 대지 않고도 연주가 가능한 테레민이란 전자악기로 연주하고, 공상과학소설에서 등장할 듯한 이 악기의 연주법에 대해 설명합니다. "Autumn Leaves", "Lush Life" 그리고 David Mash의 "Listen, Words Are Gone"의 연주가 포함되어 있습니다.
Pamelia Kurstin - Theremin player
Pamelia Kurstin excavates a dusty artifact from the prehistoric strata of electronic music -- and demonstrates how to squeeze soul from an instrument you can't even touch. Full bio
Pamelia Kurstin excavates a dusty artifact from the prehistoric strata of electronic music -- and demonstrates how to squeeze soul from an instrument you can't even touch. Full bio
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(Music)
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연주중 - "Autumn Leaves"
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(Applause)
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05:35
Thank you. Ooh, I'm like, "Phew, phew, calm down. Get back into my body now." (Laughter)
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숨 좀 돌릴께요. 히히... 제 정신으로 돌아와라...
05:40
Usually when I play out, the first thing that happens is
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제가 연주할 때 사람들이 먼저 보이는 반응은 놀람입니다.
05:44
people scream out, "What's she doing?!"
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"저 사람 지금 뭐하는 거야?"
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I'll play at these rock shows, be on stage
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언젠가는 락 콘서트 같은 무대에서 아무런 말없이
05:50
standing completely still, and they're like,
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계속 가만히 움직이지 않고 연주만 하다보면
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"What's she doing?! What's she doing?!"
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"쟤 뭐하는거야, 응? 쟤 이상한거 해.." 등등
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And then I'll kind of be like -- (Vvvwow!) -- and then they're like, "Whoa!"
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그러면 나는 이렇게 (비웅!) 하죠.
05:59
(Laughter)
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(웃음)
06:01
I'm sure you're trying to figure out,
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장담하는데 지금 이런 생각을 하시겠죠.
06:05
"Well, how does this thing work?"
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"도대체 어떻게 연주하는 거지?"
06:07
Well, what I'm doing is
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음...그러니까 어... 아!
06:11
controlling the pitch with my left hand.
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왼손으로 음의 높낮이를 조절하는 거에요.
06:18
See, the closer I get to this antenna, the higher the note gets --
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이 안테나에 가까워질수록 고음이 나오고요.
06:23
(Portamento) --
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(시범)
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and you can get it really low.
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그리고 이렇게 하면 저음이 나오죠.
06:28
And with this hand I'm controlling the volume,
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그리고 이쪽 손으로는 음량을 조절합니다.
06:31
so the further away my right hand gets, the louder it gets.
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오른손이 여기서 멀어질수록 큰 소리가 나오는거죠.
06:35
(Tones)
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(시범)
06:38
So basically, with both of your hands
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그러니까 기본적으로 양손을 모두 사용해서
06:40
you're controlling pitch and volume and kind of
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음의 높낮이와 음량을 조절하고
06:44
trying to create the illusion that you're doing separate notes,
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그리고 고음과 저음을 연음으로 처리할 수도
06:48
when really it's continuously going ...
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있어요. 이렇게요
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(Flourish ... Beep)
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(시범)
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(Laughter)
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07:03
Sometimes I startle myself: I'll forget that I have it on,
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가끔은 혼자 놀라기도 해요. 이게 켜 있단 걸 잊은 채
07:05
and I'll lean over to pick up something,
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뭘 줍기 위해 몸을 숙이면
07:08
and then it goes like -- (Blip) -- "Oh!"
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오! 이런...
07:11
And it's like a funny sound effect that follows you around
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...이런 웃긴 소리가 주변에서 나죠.
07:14
if you don't turn the thing off.
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이걸 끄지 않았으니까요.
07:16
(Laughter)
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(웃음)
07:21
Maybe we'll go into the next tune,
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다음 곡을 연주해야겠네요.
07:25
because I totally lost where this is going.
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지금 제가 뭘 말해야 할지 모르겠거든요!
07:29
We're going to do a song by David Mash called "Listen: the Words Are Gone,"
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다음 곡은 David Mash의 "Listen, Words Are Gone"입니다.
07:34
and maybe I'll have words come back into me afterwards if I can relax.
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이 곡을 다 연주한 후엔 아마도 할 말이 기억나지 않을까 해요.
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(Music)
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연주중 - "Listen: the Words Are Gone"
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(Applause)
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10:44
So, I'm trying to think of some of the questions
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사람들이 자주 물어보는 질문을 생각해내는 중이에요.
10:47
that are commonly asked; there are so many.
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엄청 많더라고요.
10:49
And ... Well, I guess I could tell you
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그래서 그냥 테레민에 대한 역사를
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a little of the history of the theremin.
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짧게 설명하려구요.
10:54
It was invented around the 1920s, and the inventor, Léon Theremin
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이건 1920년대에 '리옹 테레민'이라는 발명가에 의해 발명되었어요.
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-- he also was a musician besides an inventor --
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사실 그는 발명가이기 전에 음악가였죠.
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he came up with the idea for making the theremin,
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그가 테레민을 만들려고 한 발상은
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I think, when he was working on some shortwave radios.
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단파라디오의 신호를 맞추다 생각난거래요.
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And there'd be that sound in the signal -- it's like (Screeching) --
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그걸로 신호를 잡다보니 이런 소리가 난거에요.
11:17
and he thought, "Oh, what if I could control that sound
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그리고 그는 '오, 이런 소리에도 높낮이가 있군.
11:21
and turn it into an instrument, because there are pitches in it."
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그렇다면 이런 소리로 연주를 할 수도 있겠네.'
11:25
And so somehow through developing that,
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뭐... 이런 생각으로 이걸 만들기 시작해요.
11:28
he eventually came to make the theremin the way it is now.
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결과적으로 그는 오늘날과 같은 테레민을 만들게 된거죠.
11:35
And a lot of times, even kids nowadays,
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요새 아이들도 자주 '우후후후우' 거리며
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they'll make reference to a theremin by going, "Whoo-hoo-hoo-hoo,"
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테레민을 따라하는 소리를 내요.
11:43
because in the '50s it was used in the sci-fi horror movies,
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왜냐하면 50년대에 이건 공포영화의 효과음으로 사용됐거든요.
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that sound that's like ... (Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo)
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이 소리가 좀 그렇잖아요..(우...)
11:49
(Laughter)
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(웃음)
11:52
It's kind of a funny, goofy sound to do.
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어쨌든 뭐 이런 좀 웃긴 소리를 만들죠.
11:58
And sometimes if I have too much coffee,
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그리고 어쩌다 커피를 너무 마셔서
12:00
then my vibrato gets out of hand.
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떨림음 표현이 통제 불능이 되기도 한답니다.
12:02
You're really sensitive to your body and its functions
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이 악기 뒤에 있다보면
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when you're behind this thing.
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자신의 몸과 악기의 기능에 굉장히 민감해져요.
12:07
You have to stay so still if you want to have the most control.
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연주를 정확히 하고 싶다면 정말 가만히 있어야해요.
12:10
It reminds me of the balancing act earlier on -- what Michael was doing --
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아까 마이클이 했던 균형 유지 자세가 떠오르는데요.
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because you're fighting so hard to keep the balance
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왜냐하면 음정과 음량의 균형을
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with what you're playing with and stay in tune, and at the same time
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계속 유지해야 하지만, 또 동시에
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you don't want to focus so much on being in tune all the time;
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정확한 음정을 지키는 것에만 치중하기 싫으니까요.
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you want to be feeling the music.
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그냥 음악을 느끼고 싶잖아요.
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And then also, you're trying to stay very, very, very still
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그런데 정말 정말 정말 가만히 있어야 하죠.
12:34
because little movements with other parts of your body
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왜냐하면 어떤 신체 일부분의 작은 움직임이
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will affect the pitch, or sometimes if you're holding a low note -- (Tone rising out of key) --
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음의 높낮이를 바꾸고,
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and breathing will make it ...
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만약 낮은 음을 잡고, 숨을 이렇게 내쉬면... (음정 이탈)
12:48
(Laughter)
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If I pass out on the next song ...
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다음 곡을 하다 기절하면.. 숨 참다가 그런거에요.
12:52
(Laughter)
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(웃음)
12:54
I think of it almost like
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하지만 확실히 이게 요가에 쓰이는 악기와
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like a yoga instrument because it makes you so aware
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비슷하다고 생각되요. 왜냐하면 이걸 연주하다보면
13:01
of every little crazy thing your body is doing,
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갑자기 이게 여러분이 하고 있는
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or just aware of what you don't want it to be doing
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모든 행동 하나하나를 명확히 짚어주고,
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while you're playing; you don't want to have any sudden movements.
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여러분이 하고 싶지 않아 하는 모든 걸 알려주거든요.
13:14
And if I go to a club and play a gig, people are like,
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그리고 클럽에 가서 연주를 하면 사람들이
13:17
"Here, have some drinks on us!"
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"저희가 살게요, 한 잔 하세요!"
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And it's like, "Well, I'm about to go on soon;
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그럼 전 "아 이제 곧 연주 들어가야해서..
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I don't want to be like -- (Teetering tones) -- you know?"
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이런식으로 (불안정한 음) 하긴 싫으니까..."
13:26
It really does reflect the mood that you're in also,
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이건 정말 연주자의 기분을 반영하는 것 같아요.
13:29
if you're ...
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마치, 뭐랄까
13:31
it's similar to being a vocalist, except
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노래를 부르는 것과 비슷해요.
13:34
instead of it coming out of your throat,
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그게 단지 목소리로 나오는 게 아닌 것 뿐이죠.
13:36
you're controlling it just in the air
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허공에서 컨트롤을 하는 것이죠.
13:38
and you don't really have a point of reference;
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그리고 뭔가 기준이 되는 점도 없구요,
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you're always relying on your ears and adjusting constantly.
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항상 귀에 의존하면서 계속 조절을 해줘야 하는거죠.
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You just have to always adjust to what's happening
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항상 상황에 따라 맞춰줘야 하고,
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and realize you'll have bummer notes come here and there
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의도치 않은 음들이 여기 저기서 난다는 것을 알아야 하구요.
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and listen to it, adjust it, and just move on,
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계속 듣고, 조절하고, 나아가는거죠.
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or else you'll get too tied up and go crazy. Like me.
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안 그러면 너무 여기에 얽매여서 미쳐버릴 거에요. 마치 저처럼요.
14:04
I think we will play another tune now.
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하나 더 연주해봐도 될 것 같네요.
14:09
I'm going to do "Lush Life." It's one of my favorite tunes to play.
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"Lush Life"라는 곡을 할게요. 제가 제일 좋아하는 것 중 하나에요.
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연주중 - "Lush Life"
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(Applause)
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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Pamelia Kurstin - Theremin playerPamelia Kurstin excavates a dusty artifact from the prehistoric strata of electronic music -- and demonstrates how to squeeze soul from an instrument you can't even touch.
Why you should listen
The theremin, the first electronic instrument ever invented, was on the brink of historic oblivion when it was rescued from obscurity by director Steven Martin's classic 1994 documentary Theremin: An Electronic Odyssey . And while a few brave souls have sought to master this temperamental instrument since then, none have done so with more sly effervescence than Pamelia Kurstin.
From the rock-steady composure she assumes behind the instrument (necessary lest her breathing drive the sensors out of tune), one might presume a shrinking conservatory personality, but a quick glance at the MySpace page of the self-described "bird-punching rollerskating thereminist" will quickly dash any of these quaint notions. Far from being a quirky curiosity, however, Kurstin is a sensitive, emotional stylist capable of coaxing sublime melodic content out of an instrument usually doomed to B-movie sci-fi soundtracks. (And her walking bass imitation is pretty cool too.)
Born in Los Angeles, Kurstin currently resides in Vienna, and performs with her latest project Blueblut, among many others. Her latest solo CD, Thinking Out Loud, was released in 2007 on John Zorn's legendary Tzadik label. She'll bathe your dog and give you a haircut ("if you're daring," she warns) in exchange for a six-pack.
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