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Deb Willis and Hank Willis Thomas: A mother and son united by love and art
Deborah Willis, Hank Willis Thomas: Mãe e filho unidos pelo amor e pela arte
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Um professor da faculdade de artes disse a Deborah Willis que ela, por ser mulher, estava tomando o lugar de um homem bom na universidade. Contudo, a famosa fotógrafa diz que na realidade ela abriu um espaço para um homem bom: seu filho, Hank Willis Thomas. Nesta palestra emocionante, mãe e filho, ambos artistas, descrevem como eles se inspiram um no outro em seus trabalhos, como sua arte desafia as narrativas convencionais sobre a vida e a alegria afro-americanas e como, no fim das contas, tudo se resume ao amor.
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Hank Willis Thomas: I'm Deb's son.
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Hank W. Thomas: Sou filho da Deb.
(Risos)
00:14
(Laughter)
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Deborah Willis: E eu sou mãe do Hank.
00:16
Deborah Willis: And I'm Hank's mom.
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00:18
HWT: We've said that so many times,
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HWT: Já dissemos isso tantas vezes,
que fizemos uma obra
00:20
we've made a piece about it.
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00:22
It's called "Sometimes
I See Myself In You,"
I See Myself In You,"
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chamada "Às vezes me vejo em você",
00:25
and it speaks to
the symbiotic relationship
the symbiotic relationship
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que fala sobre a relação simbiótica
que desenvolvemos ao longo dos anos
na vida e no trabalho.
na vida e no trabalho.
00:27
that we've developed over the years
through our life and work.
through our life and work.
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00:30
And really, it's because everywhere we go,
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Porque onde quer que estejamos,
juntos ou não,
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together or apart,
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carregamos essa designação.
00:35
we carry these monikers.
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Sigo os passos da minha mãe
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I've been following
in my mother's footsteps
in my mother's footsteps
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desde antes de nascer
00:39
since before I was even born
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00:40
and haven't figured out how to stop.
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e não sei como parar.
00:43
And as I get older, it does get harder.
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Quanto mais velho eu fico,
mais difícil é parar.
mais difícil é parar.
00:46
No seriously, it gets harder.
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Verdade, é cada vez mais difícil.
00:48
(Laughter)
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(Risos)
00:50
My mother's taught me many things, though,
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Minha mãe me ensinou muito,
00:52
most of all that love overrules.
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principalmente que o amor sempre vence.
00:55
She's taught me that love
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Ela me ensinou que amar
00:57
is an action,
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é uma ação,
01:00
not a feeling.
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não um sentimento.
01:01
Love is a way of being,
it's a way of doing,
it's a way of doing,
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Amor é um jeito de ser, de agir,
01:05
it's a way of listening
and it's a way of seeing.
and it's a way of seeing.
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um jeito de ouvir, de enxergar o mundo.
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DW: And also, the idea about love,
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DW: A ideia sobre o amor...
01:11
photographers,
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fotógrafos
procuram por amor quando fotografam.
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they're looking for love
when they make photographs.
when they make photographs.
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Estão procurando e procurando
e encontrando o amor.
e encontrando o amor.
01:17
They're looking and looking
and finding love.
and finding love.
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Cresci no norte da Filadélfia,
cercada de familiares e amigos
cercada de familiares e amigos
01:19
Growing up in North Philadelphia,
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01:21
I was surrounded by people
in my family and friends
in my family and friends
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01:25
who made photographs
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que tiravam fotos
01:26
and used the family camera
as a way of telling a story about life,
as a way of telling a story about life,
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e usavam a câmera da família
para contar uma história sobre a vida,
para contar uma história sobre a vida,
01:30
about life of joy,
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sobre felicidade,
01:32
about what it meant
to become a family in North Philadelphia.
to become a family in North Philadelphia.
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sobre o significado da família
no norte da Filadélfia.
no norte da Filadélfia.
01:37
So I spent most of my life
searching for pictures
searching for pictures
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Passei a maior parte da minha vida
procurando por fotografias
procurando por fotografias
01:40
that reflect on ideas
about black love, black joy
about black love, black joy
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que falassem sobre o amor negro,
a felicidade negra
a felicidade negra
01:43
and about family life.
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e sobre a vida familiar.
01:45
So it's really important to think about
the action of love overrules as a verb.
the action of love overrules as a verb.
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É importante pensar como o ato de amar
é triunfante como um verbo.
é triunfante como um verbo.
01:52
HWT: Sometimes I wonder
if the love of looking is genetic,
if the love of looking is genetic,
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HWT: Às vezes me pergunto
se o amor por olhar é genético,
se o amor por olhar é genético,
01:56
because, like my mother,
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porque, assim como a minha mãe,
01:58
I've loved photographs
since before I can even remember.
since before I can even remember.
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eu amo fotografias desde sempre.
02:02
I think sometimes that --
after my mother and her mother --
after my mother and her mother --
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Acho que depois da minha mãe e avó,
02:06
that photography and photographs
were my first love.
were my first love.
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a fotografia e as fotos
foram meu primeiro amor.
foram meu primeiro amor.
02:09
No offense to my father,
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Sem ofensa ao meu pai,
02:11
but that's what you get
for calling me a "ham"
for calling me a "ham"
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mas isso é o que ele ganha
por me chamar de "presunto"
por me chamar de "presunto"
02:14
wherever you go.
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em todo lugar que ele vai.
02:15
I remember whenever I'd go
to my grandmother's house,
to my grandmother's house,
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Me lembro que sempre
que eu visitava minha avó,
que eu visitava minha avó,
02:18
she would hide all the photo albums
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ela escondia todos os álbuns
porque ela tinha medo
que eu ficasse perguntando:
que eu ficasse perguntando:
02:19
because she was afraid of me asking,
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02:22
"Well, who is that in that picture?"
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"Quem é este nessa foto?
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and "Who are they to you
and who are they to me,
and who are they to me,
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E quem é esta?
Quantos anos você tinha nesta foto?
02:26
and how old were you
when that picture was taken?
when that picture was taken?
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Quantos anos eu tinha nesta foto?
02:28
How old was I when that picture was taken?
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Por que elas são em preto e branco?
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And why were they in black and white?
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O mundo era preto e branco
antes de eu nascer?".
antes de eu nascer?".
02:32
Was the world in black and white
before I was born?"
before I was born?"
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DW: Interessante,
02:34
DW: Well, that's interesting,
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pensar no mundo em preto e branco.
02:36
just to think about the world
in black and white.
in black and white.
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Eu cresci em um salão
de beleza, na Filadélfia,
de beleza, na Filadélfia,
02:38
I grew up in a beauty shop
in North Philadelphia,
in North Philadelphia,
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o salão da minha mãe,
vendo a revista "Ebony",
vendo a revista "Ebony",
02:41
my mom's beauty shop,
looking at "Ebony Magazine,"
looking at "Ebony Magazine,"
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com imagens que contavam histórias
que não apareciam nos noticiários,
que não apareciam nos noticiários,
02:43
found images that told stories
that were often not in the daily news,
that were often not in the daily news,
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mas sim nas fotos da família.
02:48
but in the family album.
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Queria que essas fotos
fossem energéticas para mim,
fossem energéticas para mim,
02:50
I wanted the family album
to be energetic for me,
to be energetic for me,
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02:53
a way of telling stories,
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uma maneira de contar histórias,
02:54
and one day I happened upon a book
in the Philadelphia Public Library
in the Philadelphia Public Library
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e um dia encontrei um livro
na Biblioteca Pública da Filadélfia,
na Biblioteca Pública da Filadélfia,
chamado "The Sweet Flypaper of Life",
de Roy DeCarava e Langston Hughes.
de Roy DeCarava e Langston Hughes.
02:58
called "The Sweet Flypaper of Life"
by Roy DeCarava and Langston Hughes.
by Roy DeCarava and Langston Hughes.
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03:03
I think what attracted me
as a seven-year-old,
as a seven-year-old,
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O que me chamou a atenção, aos sete anos,
03:05
the title, flypaper and sweet,
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foi o título, "mata-moscas" e "doce",
mas para pensar nisso aos sete anos,
03:08
but to think about that
as a seven-year-old,
as a seven-year-old,
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eu olhei as imagens lindas
feitas por Roy DeCarava,
feitas por Roy DeCarava,
03:10
I looked at the beautiful images
that Roy DeCarava made
that Roy DeCarava made
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03:13
and then looked at ways
that I could tell a story about life.
that I could tell a story about life.
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e enxerguei maneiras de contar
uma história sobre a vida.
uma história sobre a vida.
03:17
And looking for me is the act
that basically changed my life.
that basically changed my life.
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Enxergar foi o ato que mudou minha vida.
03:21
HWT: My friend Chris Johnson
told me that every photographer,
told me that every photographer,
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HWT: Meu amigo Chris Johnson
me disse que todo fotógrafo,
me disse que todo fotógrafo,
03:25
every artist, is essentially
trying to answer one question,
trying to answer one question,
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todo artista, essencialmente
tenta responder uma pergunta,
tenta responder uma pergunta,
03:29
and I think your question might have been,
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e eu acho que a sua pergunta foi:
03:32
"Why doesn't the rest of the world
see how beautiful we are,
see how beautiful we are,
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"Por que o resto do mundo
não vê como somos bonitos,
não vê como somos bonitos,
03:35
and what can I do to help them
see our community the way I do?"
see our community the way I do?"
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e o que eu posso fazer para ajudá-los
a ver nossa comunidade como eu vejo?".
a ver nossa comunidade como eu vejo?".
03:39
DW: While studying in art school --
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DW: Quando eu estudava artes,
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it's probably true --
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provavelmente seja verdade,
03:42
I had a male professor who told me
that I was taking up a good man's space.
that I was taking up a good man's space.
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tive um professor que disse que eu estava
tomando o lugar de um homem bom.
tomando o lugar de um homem bom.
03:47
He tried to stifle my dream
of becoming a photographer.
of becoming a photographer.
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Ele tentou sufocar meu sonho
de me tornar fotógrafa.
de me tornar fotógrafa.
Tentou me envergonhar em uma sala
cheia de fotógrafos homens.
cheia de fotógrafos homens.
03:50
He attempted to shame me
in a class full of male photographers.
in a class full of male photographers.
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03:54
He told me I was out of place
and out of order as a woman,
and out of order as a woman,
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Me disse que aquele não era
meu lugar enquanto mulher,
meu lugar enquanto mulher,
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and he went on to say
that all you could and would do
that all you could and would do
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e que tudo o que eu iria fazer
04:01
was to have a baby when a good man
could have had your seat in this class.
could have had your seat in this class.
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era engravidar durante o curso e tomar
o lugar que poderia ter sido de um homem.
o lugar que poderia ter sido de um homem.
04:05
I was shocked into silence
into that experience.
into that experience.
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Fiquei em silêncio,
chocada com aquela experiência.
chocada com aquela experiência.
04:09
But I had my camera,
and I was determined to prove to him
and I was determined to prove to him
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Mas eu tinha minha câmera
e estava determinada a provar
e estava determinada a provar
04:12
that I was worthy
for a seat in that class.
for a seat in that class.
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que eu merecia estar naquela classe.
04:14
But in retrospect, I asked myself:
"Why did I need to prove it to him?"
"Why did I need to prove it to him?"
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Em retrospecto, eu me pergunto:
"Por que preciso provar para ele?".
"Por que preciso provar para ele?".
04:18
You know, I had my camera,
and I knew I needed to prove to myself
and I knew I needed to prove to myself
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Eu tinha minha câmera e sabia
que precisava provar para mim mesma
que precisava provar para mim mesma
que eu faria diferença na fotografia.
04:21
that I would make
a difference in photography.
a difference in photography.
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Eu amo fotografia e ninguém
vai me impedir de criar imagens.
vai me impedir de criar imagens.
04:23
I love photography, and no one
is going to stop me from making images.
is going to stop me from making images.
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04:27
HWT: But that's when I came in.
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HWT: E é aí que eu entro.
04:29
DW: Yeah, that year I graduated,
I got pregnant.
I got pregnant.
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DW: Sim, engravidei no ano que me formei.
04:32
Yep, he was right.
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Pois é, ele tinha razão.
E eu tive você,
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And I had you,
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e ignorei a linguagem sexista
que ele usou contra mim.
que ele usou contra mim.
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and I shook off that sexist language
that he used against me
that he used against me
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04:40
and picked up my camera
and made photographs daily,
and made photographs daily,
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Peguei minha câmera
e fotografei todos os dias,
e fotografei todos os dias,
04:43
and made photographs of my pregnant belly
as I prepared for graduate school.
as I prepared for graduate school.
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fotografei minha barriga de grávida
e me preparei para a pós-graduação.
e me preparei para a pós-graduação.
Vi que quase não havia fotógrafos negros
04:48
But I thought about also
that black photographers were missing
that black photographers were missing
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nos livros de história da fotografia,
04:52
from the history books of photography,
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e eu queria contar uma história.
04:55
and I was looking
for ways to tell a story.
for ways to tell a story.
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Aí encontrei o livro do Gordon Park,
"A Choice of Weapons",
"A Choice of Weapons",
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And I ran across Gordon Parks' book
"A Choice of Weapons,"
"A Choice of Weapons,"
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que é sua autobiografia.
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which was his autobiography.
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Comecei a fotografar e fazer imagens,
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I began photographing and making images,
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guardei a folha de contato
da minha barriga grávida,
da minha barriga grávida,
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and I tucked away that contact sheet
that I made of my pregnant belly,
that I made of my pregnant belly,
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05:11
and then you inspired me
to create a new piece,
to create a new piece,
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então você me inspirou
a criar uma obra nova,
a criar uma obra nova,
uma que dizia "Uma mulher tomando
o lugar de um homem bom",
o lugar de um homem bom",
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a piece that said, "A woman
taking a place from a good man,"
taking a place from a good man,"
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"Você tomou o lugar de um homem bom",
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"You took the space from a good man,"
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então peguei essa linguagem
e inverti para que dissesse:
e inverti para que dissesse:
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and then I used that language
and reversed it and said,
and reversed it and said,
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05:24
"I made a space for a good man, you."
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"Eu abri espaço para um homem bom, você".
05:26
(Applause)
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(Aplausos)
05:28
HWT: Thanks, ma.
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HWT: Obrigado, mãe.
05:33
Like mother, like son.
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Tal mãe, tal filho.
05:35
I grew up in a house full of photographs.
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Cresci numa casa cheia de fotografias.
Cheia de fotos e minha mãe
usava a cozinha como quarto escuro.
usava a cozinha como quarto escuro.
05:38
They were everywhere, and my mother
would turn the kitchen into a darkroom.
would turn the kitchen into a darkroom.
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E não eram só as fotos que ela tirava
e fotos de familiares.
e fotos de familiares.
05:42
And there weren't
just pictures that she took
just pictures that she took
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05:45
and pictures of family members.
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Eram fotos de gente desconhecida
e tiradas por pessoas desconhecidas,
e tiradas por pessoas desconhecidas,
05:46
But there were pictures on the wall
of and by people that we didn't know,
of and by people that we didn't know,
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05:51
men and women that we didn't know.
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homens e mulheres que não conhecíamos.
Obrigado, mãe.
05:53
Thanks, ma.
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(Risos)
05:54
(Laughter)
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Tenho meu próprio tempo.
05:55
I have my own timing.
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05:56
(Laughter)
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(Risos)
Viram ela me cutucar?
05:58
Did you see her poke me?
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05:59
(Laughter)
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(Risos)
Marionete.
06:01
Puppet strings.
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06:06
I grew up in a house full of photographs.
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Cresci numa casa cheia de fotografias.
06:08
(Applause)
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(Aplausos)
06:11
But they weren't just pictures
of men and women that we knew,
of men and women that we knew,
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E não eram fotos de pessoas
que conhecíamos,
que conhecíamos,
06:14
but pictures of people that I didn't know,
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eram fotos de pessoas desconhecidas.
06:17
Pretty much, it was pretty clear
from what I learned in school,
from what I learned in school,
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E ficou claro na escola
que o resto do mundo também não conhecia.
06:20
that the rest of the world didn't either.
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06:23
And it took me a long time
to figure out what she was up to,
to figure out what she was up to,
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Demorou para eu entender o porquê disso,
mas depois de um tempo eu entendi.
06:26
but after a while, I figured it out.
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Quando eu tinha nove anos,
ela publicou o livro
ela publicou o livro
06:30
When I was nine years old,
she published this book,
she published this book,
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"Black Photographers, 1840-1940:
a Bio-Bibliography".
a Bio-Bibliography".
06:32
"Black Photographers, 1840-1940:
A Bio-Bibliography."
A Bio-Bibliography."
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06:36
And it's astounding to me to consider
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Eu acho incrível que
06:39
that in 1840, African Americans
were making photographs.
were making photographs.
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em 1840, afro-americanos
estavam tirando fotografias.
estavam tirando fotografias.
Olha que incrível,
06:43
What does it mean for us to think
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06:44
that at a time that was two, three decades
before the end of slavery,
before the end of slavery,
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duas ou três décadas antes
da abolição da escravatura,
da abolição da escravatura,
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that people were learning how to read,
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essas pessoas estavam aprendendo a ler,
e aprendendo matemática,
06:52
they had to learn how to do math,
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06:54
they had to be on the cutting edge
of science and technology,
of science and technology,
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se informando sobre ciência e tecnologia,
06:57
to do math, physics and chemistry
just to make a single photograph.
just to make a single photograph.
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sobre matemática, física e química
para revelar uma única fotografia.
para revelar uma única fotografia.
07:02
And what compelled them
to do that if not love?
to do that if not love?
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Que outra motivação tiveram senão o amor?
07:05
Well, that book led her to her next book,
"Black Photographers, 1940-1988,"
"Black Photographers, 1940-1988,"
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Esse livro a levou ao próximo,
"Black Photographers: 1940-1988",
"Black Photographers: 1940-1988",
e esse livro levou a outro,
e a outro, a outro,
e a outro, a outro,
07:10
and that book led to another book,
and another book, and another book,
and another book, and another book,
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07:15
and another book, and another book,
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a outro, a outro,
07:17
and another book, and another book,
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a outro, a outro,
07:19
and another book, and another book,
and another book, and another book,
and another book, and another book,
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a outro, a outro,
a outro, a outro,
a outro, a outro,
07:22
and another book, and another book,
and another book, and another book,
and another book, and another book,
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a outro, a outro,
a outro, a outro,
a outro, a outro,
07:25
and another book,
and another book, and another.
and another book, and another.
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a outro e a outro.
07:28
(Applause)
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(Aplausos)
07:29
And throughout my life,
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Por toda minha vida,
07:31
she's edited and published dozens of books
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ela editou e publicou dúzias de livros
07:34
and curated numerous exhibitions
on every continent,
on every continent,
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e foi curadora de várias exibições
em todos os continentes,
em todos os continentes,
07:39
not all about black photographers
but all inspired by the curiosity
but all inspired by the curiosity
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nem todas sobre fotógrafos negros,
mas todas inspiradas pela curiosidade
mas todas inspiradas pela curiosidade
07:42
of a little black girl
from North Philadelphia.
from North Philadelphia.
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de uma menininha negra
do norte da Filadélfia.
do norte da Filadélfia.
07:45
DW: What I found is that
black photographers had stories to tell,
black photographers had stories to tell,
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DW: Descobri que fotógrafos negros
tinham histórias para contar
tinham histórias para contar
07:48
and we needed to listen.
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e que nós precisávamos ouvir.
07:51
And then I found and I discovered
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Então descobri
07:52
black photographers
like Augustus Washington,
like Augustus Washington,
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fotógrafos negros,
como Augustus Washington,
como Augustus Washington,
07:55
who made these beautiful daguerreotypes
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que fez esses daguerreótipos lindos
07:57
of the McGill family
in the early 1840s and '50s.
in the early 1840s and '50s.
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da família McGill no começo
dos anos 1840 e 1850.
dos anos 1840 e 1850.
08:02
Their stories tended to be different,
black photographers,
black photographers,
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As histórias dos fotógrafos negros
costumavam ser diferentes,
costumavam ser diferentes,
08:04
and they had a different narrative
about black life during slavery,
about black life during slavery,
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e narravam a vida dos escravos negros
de maneira diferente,
de maneira diferente,
08:08
but it was also about family life, beauty
and telling stories about community.
and telling stories about community.
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mas também falavam sobre vida em família,
sobre beleza e comunidade.
sobre beleza e comunidade.
08:13
I didn't know how to link the stories,
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Eu não sabia como ligar as histórias,
08:16
but I knew that teachers
needed to know this story.
needed to know this story.
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mas sabia que os professores
precisavam conhecê-las.
precisavam conhecê-las.
08:19
HWT: So I think I was
my mother's first student.
my mother's first student.
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HWT: Acho que fui o primeiro
aluno da minha mãe.
aluno da minha mãe.
08:24
Unwillingly and unwittingly --
puppet strings --
puppet strings --
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Involuntariamente, como marionete,
08:27
I decided to pick up a camera,
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decidi pegar uma câmera
08:30
and thought that I
should make my own pictures
should make my own pictures
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e tirar minhas próprias fotos
08:32
about the then and now
and the now and then.
and the now and then.
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sobre o antes e o agora,
o agora e o antes.
o agora e o antes.
08:35
I thought about
how I could use photography
how I could use photography
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Pensei em como eu podia usar a fotografia
08:38
to talk about how what's going on
outside of the frame of the camera
outside of the frame of the camera
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para falar sobre como o que está
fora do enquadramento da câmera
fora do enquadramento da câmera
08:41
can affect what we see inside.
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afeta o que nós enxergamos dentro dele.
08:44
The truth is always in the hands
of the actual image maker
of the actual image maker
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A verdade está sempre nas mãos
de quem captura a imagem
de quem captura a imagem
08:47
and it's up to us to really consider
what's being cut out.
what's being cut out.
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e cabe a nós decidir o que cortar.
08:50
I thought I could use her research
as a jumping-off point
as a jumping-off point
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Achei que podia usar a pesquisa dela
como o ponto de partida
como o ponto de partida
08:53
of things that I was seeing in society
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do que eu estava vendo na sociedade
08:55
and I wanted to start to think
about how I could use historical images
about how I could use historical images
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e queria saber como eu poderia
usar imagens históricas
usar imagens históricas
para falar sobre como o passado
faz parte do presente
faz parte do presente
08:58
to talk about the past being present
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09:01
and think about ways that we can speak
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e pensar em maneiras de dialogar
09:03
to the perennial struggle
for human rights and equal rights
for human rights and equal rights
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com a eterna luta pelos direitos humanos
e pela igualdade de direitos
e pela igualdade de direitos
09:07
through my appropriation of photographs
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através da minha apropriação de fotos
09:11
in the form of sculpture, video,
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na forma de esculturas, vídeos,
09:14
installation and paintings.
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instalações e pinturas.
09:15
But through it all,
one piece has affected me the most.
one piece has affected me the most.
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Mas durante todo o processo,
uma obra me afetou mais que todas.
uma obra me afetou mais que todas.
09:20
It continues to nourish me.
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E continua a me sustentar.
09:21
It's based off of this photograph
by Ernest Withers,
by Ernest Withers,
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É baseada nessa fotografia
de Ernest Withers,
de Ernest Withers,
09:24
who took this picture in 1968
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que tirou essa foto em 1968,
na marcha dos trabalhadores
dos serviços sanitários de Memphis,
dos serviços sanitários de Memphis,
09:26
at the Memphis Sanitation Workers March
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09:29
of men and women standing collectively
to affirm their humanity.
to affirm their humanity.
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de homens e mulheres
afirmando sua humanidade.
afirmando sua humanidade.
09:33
They were holding signs
that said "I am a man,"
that said "I am a man,"
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Eles tinham cartazes que diziam:
"Eu sou um homem",
"Eu sou um homem",
09:36
and I found that astounding,
because the phrase I grew up with
because the phrase I grew up with
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e eu me surpreendi porque a frase
que eu sempre ouvi
que eu sempre ouvi
09:39
wasn't "I am a man,"
it was "I am the man,"
it was "I am the man,"
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não era "eu sou um homem",
mas sim "eu sou o homem",
mas sim "eu sou o homem",
09:42
and I was amazed at how it went from this
collective statement during segregation
collective statement during segregation
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e me espantei com o modo como passamos
da afirmação coletiva durante a segregação
da afirmação coletiva durante a segregação
09:46
to this seemingly selfish statement
after integration.
after integration.
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para essa afirmação aparentemente
egoísta depois da integração.
egoísta depois da integração.
09:50
And I wanted to ponder that,
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E eu queria refletir sobre isso,
09:52
so I decided to remix that text
in as many ways as I could think of,
in as many ways as I could think of,
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então decidi combinar aquele texto
de todas as maneiras que pudesse.
de todas as maneiras que pudesse.
09:55
and I like to think of the top line
as a timeline of American history,
as a timeline of American history,
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Gosto de pensar que a primeira linha
é uma linha do tempo da história americana
é uma linha do tempo da história americana
10:00
and the last line as a poem,
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e a última linha é um poema
10:03
and it says,
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que diz:
"Eu sou o homem. Quem é o homem.
Você, o homem. Que homem.
Você, o homem. Que homem.
10:04
"I am the man. Who's the man.
You the man. What a man.
You the man. What a man.
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Eu sou homem. Eu sou muitos.
Eu sou, sou eu.
Eu sou, sou eu.
10:07
I am man. I am many. I am, am I.
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10:10
I am, I am. I am, Amen.
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Eu sou, eu sou. Eu sou, amém."
10:12
DW: Wow, so fascinating.
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DW: Uau, lindo.
(Aplausos)
10:14
(Applause)
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O que aprendemos com isso
10:16
But what we learn from this experience
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é que as duas palavras mais poderosas
na língua inglesa são "eu sou".
na língua inglesa são "eu sou".
10:18
is the most powerful two words
in the English language is, "I am."
in the English language is, "I am."
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10:21
And we each have the capacity to love.
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E que cada um de nós é capaz de amar.
10:24
Thank you.
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Obrigada.
10:25
(Applause)
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(Aplausos)
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Deborah Willis - Curator, photographerDeborah Willis is a photographer and writer in search of beauty.
Why you should listen
As an author and curator, Deborah Willis's pioneering research has focused on cultural histories envisioning the black body, women and gender. She is a celebrated photographer, acclaimed historian of photography, MacArthur and Guggenheim Fellow, and University Professor and Chair of the Department of Photography & Imaging at the Tisch School of the Arts at New York University.
Willis received the NAACP Image Award in 2014 for her co-authored book Envisioning Emancipation: Black Americans and the End of Slavery (with Barbara Krauthamer) and in 2015 for the documentary Through a Lens Darkly, inspired by her book Reflections in Black: A History of Black Photographers 1840 to the Present.
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Hank Willis Thomas - Artist
Hank Willis Thomas is a conceptual artist working primarily with themes related to identity, history and popular culture.
Why you should listen
Hank Willis Thomas's work has been exhibited throughout the U.S. and abroad including, the International Center of Photography, Guggenheim Museum Bilbao, Musée du quai Branly, and the Cleveland Museum of Art. His work is in numerous public collections including the Museum of Modern Art New York, the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, the Whitney Museum of American Art, the Brooklyn Museum, the High Museum of Art and the National Gallery of Art in Washington DC, among others.
Thomas's collaborative projects include Question Bridge: Black Males, In Search Of The Truth (The Truth Booth), and For Freedoms. For Freedoms was recently awarded the 2017 ICP Infinity Award for New Media and Online Platform. Thomas is also the recipient of the 2017 Soros Equality Fellowship and the 2017 AIMIA | AGO Photography Prize. Current exhibitions include Prospect 4: The Lotus in Spite of the Swamp in New Orleans and All Things Being Equal at Zeitz Museum of Contemporary Art Africa. In 2017, Thomas also unveiled his permanent public artwork "Love Over Rules" in San Francisco and "All Power to All People" in Opa Locka, Florida. Thomas is a member of the Public Design Commission for the City of New York. He received a BFA in Photography and Africana studies from New York University and an MFA/MA in Photography and Visual Criticism from the California College of Arts. He has also received honorary doctorates from the Maryland Institute of Art and the Institute for Doctoral Studies in the Visual Arts. He lives and works in New York City.
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