TEDMED 2011
Diana Nyad: Extreme swimming with the world's most dangerous jellyfish
Diana Nyad. Ekstremno plavanje z najbolj nevarnimi meduzami na svetu
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V 70. letih je Diana Nyad postavila rekorde v daljinskem plavanju, ki še vedno držijo. Trideset let kasneje, pri šestdesetih letih, se je odločila za svoj najdaljši plavalni podvig, plavati od Kube do Floride. V tem smešnem, a močnem govoru na TEDMED, nam pove, kako se mentalno pripraviti na uresničitev ekstremnih sanj, ter nas vpraša: Kaj boste VI storili s svojim divjim, dragocenim življenjem?
Diana Nyad - Journalist, swimmer
A record-setting long-distance swimmer, Diana Nyad writes and thinks deeply about motivation. Full bio
A record-setting long-distance swimmer, Diana Nyad writes and thinks deeply about motivation. Full bio
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00:15
Yeah, so a couple of years ago I was turning 60,
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Hja, no, pred nekaj leti sem se bližala šestdesetim
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and I don't like being 60.
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in ne maram biti stara šestdeset let.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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And I started grappling
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Začela sem se bojevati
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with this existential angst
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z eksistencialnim strahom,
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of what little I had done with my life.
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da sem v svojem življenju naredila tako malo.
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It wasn't the resume
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Ni šlo za to,
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of breaking this record here,
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kakšen rekord sem podrla,
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it was more like, who had I become?
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šlo je bolj za vprašanje, kaj sem postala.
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How had I spent my valuable time?
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Kako sem preživela svoj dragocen čas?
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How could this have gone by
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Kako je lahko minil
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like lightning?
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kot v hipu?
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And I couldn't forgive myself
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In nisem si mogla odpustiti
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for the countless, countless hours
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za neštete, neštete ure,
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I had lost
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ki sem jih izgubila
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in negative thought --
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z negativnimi mislimi...
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all the time I had spent beating myself up
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ves čas, ko sem se kaznovala
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for losing my marriage
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zaradi izgube zakona
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and not stopping the sexual abuse when I was a kid
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in zato, ker kot otrok nisem preprečila spolne zlorabe,
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and career moves
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pa zaradi sprememb v karieri
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and this and this and this.
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in tega in onega in drugega.
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Just why, why didn't I do it better? Why? Why? Why?
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Le zakaj nisem bila boljša? Zakaj? Zakaj? Zakaj?
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And then my mother died at 82.
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Potem je pri 82 letih umrla moja mama.
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And so I starting thinking,
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In začela sem razmišljati:
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not only am I not happy with the past,
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ne samo da nisem zadovoljna s preteklostjo,
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now I'm getting choked with,
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zdaj me duši še to,
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"I've only got 22 years left."
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da mi ostaja le še 22 let.
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What am I going to do with this short amount of time
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Kaj bom s tem kratkim obdobjem,
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that's just fleeting?
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ki kar beži?
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And I'm not in the present whatsoever.
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Jaz pa sploh nisem v sedanjosti.
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And I decided the remedy to all this malaise
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Odločila sem se, da bo rešitev za vse to
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was going to be
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v tem,
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for me to chase
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da stremim
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an elevated dream,
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za velikimi sanjami,
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an extreme dream,
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za ekstremnimi sanjami,
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something that would require
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za nečim, kar bi zahtevalo
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utter conviction
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popolno prepričanost
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and unwavering passion,
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in neomajno strast,
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something that would make me
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za nečim, kar bi me naredilo
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be my best self
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najboljšo možno osebo
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in every aspect of my life,
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v vseh pogledih življenja,
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every minute of every day,
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vsako minuto vsakega dneva,
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because the dream was so big
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kajti sanje so bile tako velike,
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that I couldn't get there
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da jih ne bi mogla doseči
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without that kind of behavior and that kind of conviction.
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brez takega obnašanja in takega prepričanja.
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And I decided,
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In odločila sem se
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it was an old dream that was lingering,
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za stare sanje, ki sem jih nosila s sabo
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that was from so many years ago,
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že mnoga leta,
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three decades ago --
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že trideset let...
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the only sort of world class swim
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edino obliko plavanja svetovnega pomena,
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I had tried and failed at back in my 20s --
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ki sem jo neuspešno poskusila pri dvajsetih letih,
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was going from Cuba to Florida.
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plavati med Kubo in Florido.
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It was deep in my imagination.
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To je bilo globoko v moji domišljiji.
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No one's ever done it without a shark cage.
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Nihče ni tega naredil brez kletke, ki varuje pred morskimi psi.
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It's daunting.
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Strah vzbujajoče je.
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It's more than a hundred miles across a difficult passage of ocean.
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Gre za preko sto milj čez težak oceanski prehod.
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It's probably, at my speed, at my age --
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Pri moji hitrosti in moji starosti verjetno...
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for anybody's speed at anybody's age --
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pri katerikoli hitrosti in starosti...
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going to take 60, maybe 70, hours
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zahteva 60, morda 70 ur
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of continuous swimming,
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neprestanega plavanja,
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never getting out on the boat.
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nobenega vzpenjanja na čoln ni vmes.
02:41
And I started to train.
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In začela sem trenirati.
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I hadn't swum for 31 years, not a stroke.
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Celih 31 let nisem plavala, niti zamaha.
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And I had kept in good shape, but swimming's a whole different animal.
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Ohranila sem dobro formo, ampak plavanje je čisto druga zadeva.
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As a matter of fact,
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Pravzaprav
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this picture is supposed to be me during training.
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naj bi bila to moja slika med treningom.
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It's a smiling face.
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Smehljam se.
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And when you're training for this sport, you are not smiling.
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In ko treniraš ta šport, se ne smehljaš.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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It's an arduous, difficult sport,
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Naporen, težak šport je
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and I don't remember smiling
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in ne spomnim se, da bi se
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at any time during this sport.
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pri njem kadarkoli smehljala.
03:09
As I said, I respect other sports,
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Kot rečeno, spoštujem druge športe
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and I compare this sport sometimes
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in včasih tega primerjam
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to cycling and to mountain climbing
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s kolesarjenjem ali plezanjem
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and other of the expedition type events,
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in drugimi ekspedicijskimi podvigi,
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but this is a sensory deprivation,
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ampak tu gre za izgubo čutil,
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a physical duress.
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za fizični pritisk.
03:24
And when I started in
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In ko sem začela
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with the eight hours and the 10 hours and the 12 hours
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z osmimi in desetimi in dvanajstimi urami
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and the 14 hours and the 15 hours and the 24-hour swims,
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in štirinajstimi in petnajstimi urami in 24-urnimi plavanji,
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I knew I had it,
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sem vedela, da zmorem,
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because I was making it through these.
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saj sem zmogla vse te.
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And when I said I'm going to go out and do a 15-hour swim,
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In ko sem rekla, da grem na 15-urno plavanje
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and we're coming into the dock after a long day
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in smo se po dolgem dnevu bližali doku
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and it's now night,
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in je bila noč,
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and we come in and it's 14 hours and 58 minutes
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smo prišli po 14 urah in 58 minutah
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and I can touch the dock and we're done,
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in lahko bi se dotaknila doka in končala,
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the trainer says, "That's great.
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trener pa je dejal: "To je odlično.
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It's 14 hours 58 minutes. Who cares the last two minutes?"
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14 ur in 58 minut. Koga briga za zadnji dve minuti?"
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I say, "No, it's got to be 15 hours,"
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Odgovorila sem: "Ne, mora biti petnajst ur,"
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and I swim another minute out and another minute back
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in odplavala sem še eno minuto ven in eno nazaj
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to make the 15 hours.
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ter dokončala petnajst ur.
04:00
And I put together an expedition.
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Sestavila sem ekspedicijo.
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It's not that I didn't have help,
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Saj ne, da nisem imela pomoči,
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but honestly, I sort of led, I was the team leader.
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ampak iskreno rečeno, jaz sem jo vodila, bila sem vodja ekipe.
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And to get the government permissions,
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Da bi dobili dovoljenje od vlade,
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you read in the paper,
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kot berete v časopisu,
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you think it's easy to get into Cuba everyday?
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mislite, da je enostavno kar vsak dan iti na Kubo?
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Try going in with an armada like we had
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Poskusite iti z armado, kakršno smo imeli mi
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of 50 people and five boats
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s 50 ljudmi in petimi čolni
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and CNN's crew, etc.
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in ekipo CNN-a itd.
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The navigation is difficult.
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In navigacija je zahtevna.
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There's a big river called the Gulf Stream
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Velika reka, ki se imenuje Zalivski tok,
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that runs across
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teče prečno
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and it's not going in the direction you are.
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in ne v smer, v katero grem jaz.
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It's going to the east and you'd like to go north.
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Teče na vzhod, jaz pa hočem na sever.
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It's tricky.
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Zapleteno je.
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And there's dehydration.
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In potem je tu dehidracija.
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And there's hypothermia.
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Pa podhladitev.
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And there are sharks.
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Pa morski psi.
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And there are all kinds of problems.
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In vse vrste težav.
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And I gathered together, honestly,
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Iskreno rečeno, ob sebi sem zbrala
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the world's leading experts in every possible way.
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vodilne svetovne strokovnjake z najrazličnejših področij.
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And a month ago,
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Pred mesecem dni,
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the 23rd of September,
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23. septembra,
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I stood on that shore
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sem stala na tisti obali
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and I looked across
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in pogledala čez
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to that long, long faraway horizon
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k zelo zelo oddaljenemu horizontu
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and I asked myself,
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ter se vprašala,
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do you have it?
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si sposobna?
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Are your shoulders ready?
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So tvoja ramena pripravljena?
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And they were. They were prepared.
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Bila so. Bila so pripravljena.
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No stone left unturned.
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Ničesar nismo prepustili naključju.
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Was the mind ready?
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Je um pripravljen?
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You know, you're swimming with the fogged goggles,
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Veste, plava se z zamegljenimi očali,
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you're swimming at 60 strokes a minute,
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dosegate 60 zamahov na minuto,
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so you're never really focused on anything, you don't see well.
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zato niste osredotočeni na nič, ne vidite dobro.
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You've got tight bathing caps over your ears
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Preko ušes imate tesno plavalno kapo,
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trying to keep the heat of the head,
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da ohranja toploto glave,
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because it's where the hypothermia starts,
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saj se tu začne podhladitev,
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and so you don't hear very well.
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zato ne slišite dobro.
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You're really left alone with your own thoughts.
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Res ste sami s svojimi mislimi.
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And I had all kinds of counting systems ready there
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Pripravljene sem imela vseh vrst sisteme za štetje
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in English, followed by German,
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v angleščini, potem nemščini,
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followed by Spanish, followed by French.
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nato španščini in francoščini.
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You save the French for last.
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Francoščina je bila za konec.
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And I had songs, I had a playlist in my head --
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In imela sem pesmi, v glavi sem imela seznam predvajanja...
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not through headphones, in my own head --
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ne s slušalkami, samo v glavi...
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of 65 songs.
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na njem je bilo 65 pesmi.
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And I couldn't wait to get into the dark in the middle of the night,
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Komaj sem čakala na temo sredi noči,
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because that's when Neil Young comes out.
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saj je takrat na vrsti Neil Young.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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And it's odd, isn't it?
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Čudno je, mar ne?
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You'd think you'd be singing Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah"
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Človek bi mislil, da bom pela "Hallelujah" Leonarda Cohena
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out in the majesty of the ocean,
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sredi veličastnega oceana,
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not songs about heroin addiction in New York City.
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ne pa pesmi o odvisnosti s heroinom v New Yorku.
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But no, for some reason
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Ampak ne, iz nekega razloga
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I couldn't wait to get into the dark of the night
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sem komaj čakala, da pridem v temo noči
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and be singing,
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in pojem.
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♫ "A heard you knocking at my cellar door ♫
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"Slišal sem, da trkaš na vrata moje kleti,
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♫ I love you baby and I want some more ♫
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rad te imam, draga, in hočem še,
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♫ Ooh, ooh, the damage done" ♫
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ooo, ooo, škoda je narejena."
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(Applause)
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(aplavz)
06:32
The night before I started,
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Noč, preden sem začela,
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I finished Stephen Hawking's "The Grand Design."
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sem dokončala knjigo Stephena Hawkinga "The Grand Design".
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And I couldn't wait
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Komaj sem čakala,
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to trip the mind fantastic.
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da me možgani odpeljejo na fantastično potovanje.
06:41
About the 50th hour,
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Okoli petdesete ure
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I was going to start thinking about the edge of the universe.
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bom začela razmišljati o robu vesolja.
06:46
Is there an edge?
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Obstaja rob?
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Is this an envelope we're living inside of,
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Ali živimo znotraj ovojnice
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or no, does it go onto infinity in both time and space?
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ali pač ne in gresta čas in prostor v neskončnost?
06:53
And there's nothing like swimming for 50 hours in the ocean
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Nič ni boljšega kot plavati 50 ur preko oceana,
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that gets you thinking about things like this.
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če hočete razmišljati o takih stvareh.
06:59
I couldn't wait to prove the athlete I am,
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Komaj sem čakala, da dokažem, kakšna športnica sem,
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that nobody else in the world can do this swim.
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in da nihče drug na svetu tega ne more preplavati.
07:06
And I knew I could do it.
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Vedela sem, da zmorem.
07:08
And when I jumped into that water,
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In ko sem skočila v vodo,
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I yelled in my mother's French, "Courage!"
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sem v materini francoščini zaklicala: "Pogumno!"
07:13
And I started swimming,
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In začela sem plavati
07:15
and, oh my God, it was glassy.
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in moj bog, kako je bilo prozorno.
07:17
And we knew it, all 50 people on the boat,
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Vedeli smo, vseh petdeset ljudi na čolnu,
07:19
we all knew this was it,
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vsi smo vedeli, da je to to,
07:21
this was our time.
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to je bil naš čas.
07:23
And I reminded myself a couple hours in,
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Čez nekaj ur sem se opomnila,
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you know, the sport is sort of a microcosm of life itself.
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da, veste, šport je nekakšen mikrokozmos življenja.
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First of all, you're going to hit obstacles.
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Prvič, naleteli boste na ovire.
07:34
And even though you're feeling great at any one moment,
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In čeprav se v danem trenutku počutite super,
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don't take it for granted, be ready,
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ne bodite prepričani v to, bodite pripravljeni,
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because there's going to be pain, there's going to be suffering.
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saj bo prišla bolečina, trpljenje.
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It's not going to feel this good all the way across.
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Ne bo vso pot tako čudovito.
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And I was thinking of the hypothermia
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Razmišljala sem o podhladitvi
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and maybe some shoulder pain
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in mogoče o nekaj bolečinah v ramenih
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and all the other things --
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in o vseh drugih stvareh...
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the vomiting that comes from being in the saltwater.
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o bruhanju, ki je posledica tega, da ste v slani vodi.
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You're immersed in the liquid.
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Povsem ste v tekočini.
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Your body doesn't like the saltwater.
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Telo pa ne mara slane vode.
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After a couple of days, three days,
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Po nekaj dneh, po treh dneh
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you tend to rebel
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se boste začeli upirati
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in a lot of physical ways.
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na veliko fizičnih načinov.
08:05
But no, two hours in,
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Ampak ne, po dveh urah,
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wham! Never in my life ...
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bum! Nikoli v življenju...
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I knew there were Portuguese men o' war,
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vedela sem, da so v vodi portugalske ladjice,
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all kinds of moon jellies, all kinds of things,
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pa vseh vrst uhati klobučnjaki, vseh sort stvari,
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but the box jellyfish from the southern oceans
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ampak morske ose iz južnih oceanov
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is not supposed to be in these waters.
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naj se v teh vodah ne bi nahajale.
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And I was on fire --
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Gorela sem...
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excruciating, excruciating pain.
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huda, huda bolečina.
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I don't know if you can still see
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Ne vem, če še lahko vidite
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the red line here and up the arm.
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rdečo črto tule in na roki.
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Evidently, a piece this big of tentacle
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Seveda ima tako velika lovka
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has a hundred-thousand little barbs on it
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sto tisoč majhnih bodic
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and each barb is not just stinging your skin,
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in vsaka bodica vas ne samo zbode,
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it's sending a venom.
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ampak je tudi strupena.
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The most venomous animal that lives in the ocean
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Najbolj strupena oceanska žival
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is the box jellyfish.
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je prav morska osa.
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And every one of those barbs
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In vsaka bodica
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is sending that venom into this central nervous system.
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pošilja strup v centralni živčni sistem.
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So first I feel like boiling hot oil,
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Najprej sem se počutila kot vrelo olje,
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I've been dipped in.
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kot bi me potopili vanj.
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And I'm yelling out, "Fire! Fire! Fire! Fire!
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Kričala sem: "Ogenj! Ogenj! Ogenj! Ogenj!
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Help me! Somebody help me!"
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Pomagajte mi! Naj mi nekdo pomaga!"
09:02
And the next thing is paralysis.
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Naslednja stvar je paraliza.
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I feel it in the back and then I feel it in the chest up here,
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Čutila sem jo v hrbtu in v prsih
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and I can't breathe.
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in nisem mogla dihati.
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And now I'm not swimming with a nice long stroke,
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Zdaj nisem več plavala z lepimi dolgimi zamahi,
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I'm sort of crabbing it this way.
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nekako sem se vlekla.
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Then come convulsions.
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Potem so prišli krči.
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A young man on our boat is an EMT. He dives in to try to help me.
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Mlad moški v čolnu je bil reševalec. Skočil je v vodo, da bi mi pomagal.
09:19
He's stung.
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Opeklo ga je.
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They drag him out on the boat,
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Potegnili so ga v čoln
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and he's -- evidently, I didn't see any of this -- but lying on the boat
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in ... seveda tega jaz nisem videla... ležal je v čolnu
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and giving himself epinephrine shots
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in si dajal injekcije epinefrina
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and crying out.
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ter kričal.
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He's 29 years old,
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Star je 29 let,
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very well-built, lean, he's six-foot, five,
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dobro grajen, vitek, dvometraš,
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weighs 265 lbs.,
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tehta 120 kg
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and he is down.
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in zložilo ga je.
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And he is crying and he's yelling to my trainer
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Jokal je in kričal na mojega trenerja,
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who's trying to help me.
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ki mi je skušal pomagati.
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And he's saying, "Bonnie, I think I'm going to die.
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Govoril je: "Bonnie, mislim, da bom umrl.
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My breath is down to three breaths a minute.
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Moje dihanje je vsega tri vdihe na minuto.
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I need help, and I can't help Diana."
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Potrebujem pomoč in ne morem pomagati Diani."
09:53
So that was at eight o'clock at night.
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To je bilo ob osmih zvečer.
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The doctor, medical team from University of Miami
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Zdravnik in medicinska ekipa Univerze v Miamiju
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arrived at five in the morning.
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so prispeli ob petih zjutraj.
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So I swam through the night,
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Plavala sem vso noč
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and at dawn they got there and they started with prednisone shots.
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in ob zori so prispeli in mi dali injekcije prednizona.
10:04
I didn't get out,
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Nisem šla iz vode,
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but was in the water taking prednisone shots, taking Xanax,
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kar tam so mi dajali injekcije prednizona, pa Xanax,
10:09
oxygen to the face.
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pa kisik na obraz.
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It was like an ICU unit
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Izgledalo je kot oddelek intenzivne nege
10:13
in the water.
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v vodi.
10:15
(Laughter)
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(smeh)
10:17
And I guess the story is
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Stvar je v tem,
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that even Navy SEALS who are stung by the box jelly,
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celo tjulnji (seals) ameriške mornarice, ki jih ožge morska osa,
10:22
they're done.
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so opleli.
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They either die or they quickly get to a hospital.
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Umrejo ali pa jih hitro spravijo v bolnišnico.
10:27
And I swam through the night and I swam through the next day.
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Jaz sem plavala vso noč in ves naslednji dan.
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And the next night at dusk,
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Naslednji večer ob mraku
10:32
again, wham!
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spet, bum!
10:34
The box jelly again --
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Še ena morska osa...
10:36
all across the neck, all across here.
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po vsem vratu, povsod tule.
10:39
And this time,
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In tokrat
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I don't like it, I didn't want to give into it,
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mi to ni bilo všeč, nisem se hotela predati,
10:43
but there's a difference between a non-stop swim
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ampak obstaja razlika med neprestanim plavanjem
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and a staged swim.
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in plavanjem v etapah.
10:47
And I gave in
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Vdala sem se
10:49
to the staged swim.
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v plavanje v etapah.
10:51
And they got me out and they started again
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Spravili so me ven in spet začeli
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with the epinephrine and the prednisone
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z epinefrinom in prednizonom
10:56
and with the oxygen and with everything they had on board.
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in kisikom in vsem, kar so imeli pri roki.
10:59
And I got back in.
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Vrnila sem se v vodo.
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And I swam through that night and into the next day.
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In plavala sem vso noč in naslednji dan.
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And at 41 hours,
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Po 41 urah
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this body couldn't make it.
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tole telo ni več zmoglo.
11:11
The devastation of those stings
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Vsi ti ožigi
11:13
had taken the respiratory system down
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so tako poškodovali dihalni sistem,
11:15
so that I couldn't make the progress I wanted.
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da nisem mogla napredovati, kakor sem hotela.
11:18
And the dream was crushed.
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Moje sanje so bile uničene.
11:22
And how odd
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In kako čudna
11:24
is this intelligent person who put this together
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je ta pametna oseba, ki je vse to sestavila
11:27
and got all these world experts together.
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in zbrala vse te svetovne strokovnjake.
11:29
And I knew about the jellyfish,
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Vedela sem za meduze,
11:31
but I was sort of cavalier.
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a imela sem se za nekakšnega viteza.
11:33
A lot of athletes have this, you know,
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Veliko športnikov ima ta občutek, veste,
11:35
sort of invincibility.
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občutek neke vrste nepremagljivosti.
11:40
They should worry about me. I don't worry about them.
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Njih naj bo mene strah. Jaz se z njimi ne obremenjujem.
11:42
I'll just swim right through them.
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Kar skoznje bom plavala.
11:44
We've got benadryl on board. If I get stung, I'll just grin and bear it.
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Na krovu imamo benadril. Če me ožge, se bom zarežala in zdržala.
11:47
Well there was no grin and bearing this.
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No, nisem se režala niti zdržala.
11:49
As a matter of fact, the best advice I got
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Pravzaprav sem najboljši nasvet dobila
11:52
was from an elementary school class
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v razredu osnovne šole
11:55
in the Caribbean.
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na Karibih.
11:58
And I was telling these kids, 120 of them --
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Tem otrokom, 120 jih je bilo, sem pripovedovala,
12:00
they were all in the school on the gymnasium floor --
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medtem ko so sedeli na tleh telovadnice,
12:02
and I was telling them about the jellyfish
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govorila sem jim o meduzah
12:04
and how they're gelatinous
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in kako so želatinske
12:06
and you can't see them at night especially.
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in kako se jih posebej ponoči ne vidi.
12:08
And they have these
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In imajo te
12:11
long 30 to 40 to 50-ft. tentacles.
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dolge večmetrske lovke.
12:13
And they do this wrapping.
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In ovijejo se okoli vas.
12:15
And they can send the poison into the system.
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In lahko v vaš sistem pošljejo strup.
12:17
And a little kid from the back was like this.
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Majhen deček iz ozadja je dvignil roko.
12:19
And I said, "What's your name?" "Henry."
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"Kako ti je ime?" sem vprašala. "Henry."
12:21
"Henry, what's your question?"
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"Henry, kaj te zanima?"
12:23
He said, "Well, I didn't have a question so much
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Rekel je: "Pravzaprav nimam vprašanja,
12:25
as I had a suggestion."
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ampak bolj predlog."
12:27
He said, "You know those guys
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Dejal je: "Poznate tiste tipe,
12:30
who really believe in what they believe in
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ki res verjamejo v to, v kar verjamejo,
12:32
and so they wear bombs?"
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in nosijo bombe?"
12:34
And I said, "Well it's odd that you've learned of this
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Odgovorila sem: "No, čudno, da si se učil o tem
12:37
as a noble kind of pursuit, but yeah, I know those guys."
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kot o hvalevrednem dejanju, ampak, ja, poznam jih."
12:40
He said, "That's what you need.
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Odvrnil je: "To potrebujete.
12:42
You need like a school of fish
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Potrebujete jato rib,
12:44
that would swim in front of you like this."
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ki bodo takole plavale pred vami."
12:47
(Laughter)
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(smeh)
12:49
"And when the jellyfish come and they wrap their tentacles around the fish,
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"In ko pridejo meduze in se ovijejo okoli rib,
12:52
they're going to be busy with them,
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bodo zaposlene z njimi
12:54
and you'll just scoot around."
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in vi boste kar odplavali mimo."
12:57
I said, "Oh, it's like a suicide army."
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Rekla sem: "Oh, to je samomorilska vojska."
13:00
He said, "That's what I'm talking about. That's what you need."
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"O tem govorim. To potrebujete," je odgovoril.
13:03
And little did I know,
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In ko bi bila vedela,
13:05
that you should listen to eight year-olds.
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bi poslušala tega osemletnika.
13:07
And so I started that swim
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Tole plavanje sem začela
13:09
in a bathing suit like normal,
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v normalnih kopalkah
13:11
and, no joke, this is it; it came from the shark divers.
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in brez heca, to je to; to nosijo potapljači za morske pse.
13:14
I finished the swim like this.
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Plavanje sem končala tako.
13:18
I was swimming with this thing on.
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Plavala sem s tem na glavi.
13:21
That's how scared of the jellyfish I was.
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Tako me je bilo strah meduz.
13:24
So now what do I do?
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In kaj naj zdaj?
13:29
I wouldn't mind
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Nič ne bi imela proti,
13:31
if every one of you came up on this stage tonight
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če vsi pridete nocoj na oder
13:35
and told us how you've gotten over the big disappointments of your lives.
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in nam poveste, kako ste prebrodili svoja velika razočaranja.
13:38
Because we've all had them, haven't we?
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Kajti vsi jih imamo, mar ne?
13:40
We've all had a heartache.
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Vsi imamo srčno bolečino.
13:42
And so my journey now
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Moj namen sedaj je,
13:44
is to find some sort of grace
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da najdem nekakšno milino
13:47
in the face of this defeat.
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v tem porazu.
13:51
And I can look at the journey,
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Lahko vidim pot,
13:54
not just the destination.
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ne samo cilja.
13:56
I can feel proud. I can stand here in front of you tonight
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Lahko sem ponosna. Nocoj lahko stojim pred vami
13:58
and say I was courageous.
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in rečem, da sem bila pogumna.
14:01
Yeah.
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Ja.
14:03
(Applause)
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(aplavz)
14:08
Thank you.
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Hvala.
14:10
And with all sincerity, I can say,
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In povsem iskreno lahko rečem,
14:12
I am glad I lived those two years of my life that way,
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da sem vesela, da sem ti dve leti živela na tak način,
14:15
because my goal to not suffer regrets anymore,
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kajti svoj cilj, nehati trpeti zaradi obžalovanja,
14:18
I got there with that goal.
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ta cilj sem dosegla.
14:20
When you live that way, when you live with that kind of passion,
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Ko tako živite, s take vrste strastjo,
14:22
there's no time, there's no time for regrets,
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ni časa, ni časa za obžalovanje,
14:24
you're just moving forward.
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greste samo naprej.
14:26
And I want to live every day of the rest of my life that way,
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Vsak dan svojega življenja želim živeti tako,
14:28
swim or no swim.
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s plavanjem ali brez njega.
14:30
But the difference
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A razlika
14:32
in accepting this particular defeat
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pri sprejemanju tega poraza
14:34
is that sometimes,
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je v tem, da včasih,
14:37
if cancer has won,
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če je rak zmagal,
14:41
if there's death and we have no choice,
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če pride smrt in nimamo izbire,
14:44
then grace and acceptance
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potem sta milina in sprejemanje
14:47
are necessary.
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nujni.
14:49
But that ocean's still there.
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A ta ocean je še vedno tu.
14:51
This hope is still alive.
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Upanje še živi.
14:53
And I don't want to be the crazy woman
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In nočem biti tista nora ženska,
14:55
who does it for years and years and years,
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ki poskuša leta in leta
14:58
and tries and fails and tries and fails and tries and fails,
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in poskuša in ne uspe in spet poskuša in ne uspe,
15:00
but I can swim from Cuba to Florida,
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ampak jaz lahko plavam od Kube do Floride
15:03
and I will swim from Cuba to Florida.
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in preplavala bom od Kube do Floride.
15:06
Thank you.
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Hvala.
15:08
Thank you.
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Hvala.
15:10
(Applause)
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(aplavz)
15:13
Thank you.
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Hvala.
15:15
(Applause)
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(aplavz)
15:17
And so, what after that?
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In kaj potem?
15:19
Are you going to swim the Atlantic?
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Boš preplavala Atlantik?
15:22
No, that's the last swim.
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Ne, to je zadnje plavanje.
15:24
It's the only swim I'm interested in.
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Je edino, ki me zanima.
15:27
But I'm ready.
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A pripravljena sem.
15:29
And by the way, a reporter called me the other day
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In, ja, zadnjič me je poklical novinar
15:31
and he said he looked on Wikipedia
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in dejal, da je pogledal na Wikipedijo
15:33
and he said he saw my birthday was August 22nd 1949,
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in da je videl, da imam rojstni dan 22. avgusta 1949
15:36
and for some odd reason in Wikipedia,
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in iz nekega razloga
15:38
they had my death date too.
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so imeli napisan tudi datum moje smrti.
15:40
(Laughter)
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(smeh)
15:42
He said, "Did you know you're going to die the same place you were born, New York City,
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Dejal je. "Ste vedeli, da boste umrli v kraju svojega rojstva, New Yorku,
15:45
and it's going to be in January of '35?"
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in da bo to januarja 2035?"
15:48
I said, "Nope. I didn't know."
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Rekla sem: "Ne, nisem vedela."
15:50
And now I'm going to live to 85.
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In tako bom zdaj živela do 85. leta.
15:52
I have three more years than I thought.
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Tri leta več imam, kot sem mislila.
15:56
And so I ask myself,
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Zato se sprašujem.
15:58
I'm starting to ask myself now,
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začenjam se spraševati,
16:00
even before this extreme dream
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še preden
16:02
gets achieved for me,
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dosežem te ekstremne sanje;
16:04
I'm asking myself,
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sprašujem se
16:06
and maybe I can ask you tonight too,
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in morda nocoj lahko vprašam tudi vas,
16:08
to paraphrase the poet
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če parafraziram pesnico
16:13
Mary Oliver,
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Mary Oliver,
16:16
she says, "So what is it,
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ki pravi: "Kaj je torej to,
16:20
what is it you're doing,
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kar počneš
16:23
with this one wild and precious life of yours?"
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s tem divjim in dragocenim življenjem?"
16:29
Thank you very much.
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Hvala lepa.
16:31
(Applause)
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(aplavz)
16:37
Thank you. Thank you.
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Hvala. Hvala.
16:39
Thank you. Thank you.
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Hvala. Hvala.
16:43
(Applause)
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16:48
Live it large. Live it large.
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Živite na veliko. Živite na veliko.
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Diana Nyad - Journalist, swimmerA record-setting long-distance swimmer, Diana Nyad writes and thinks deeply about motivation.
Why you should listen
For ten years (1969-1979), Diana Nyad was known as the greatest long-distance swimmer in the world. In 1979, she stroked the then-longest swim in history, making the 102.5-mile journey from the island of Bimini (Bahamas) to Florida. She also broke numerous world records, including what had been a 50-year mark for circling Manhattan Island, setting the new time of 7 hrs 57 min. She is a member of the National Women’s Hall of Fame and the International Swimming Hall of Fame.
At age 60, having not swum a stroke in decades, she began planning for her white whale of distance swims: the 110-mile ocean crossing between Cuba and Florida. She'd tried it once, in her 20s, and severe jellyfish attacks had defeated her then. But now, with a strong team and a new commitment to her vision, she stepped back into the salt. She spoke about this second attempt at TEDMED 2011. And at TEDWomen 2013, in December, she talks about how it feels to have finally done it.
Nyad appears as part of a weekly five-minute radio piece on sports for KCRW called "The Score" (heard during KCRW's broadcast of NPR's All Things Considered), as well as for the Marketplace radio program.
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