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Serena Williams and Gayle King: On tennis, love and motherhood
Serena Vilijams (Serena Williams) i Gejl King (Gayle King): O tenisu, ljubavi i majčinstvu
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Sa 23 grend slem titula, teniska zvezda Serena Vilijams sedi sa novinarkom Gejl King da podeli srdačnu i nestašnu priču o njenom životu, ljubavi, pobedama i porazima - počevši od priče o tome kako je slučajno podelila vest o trudnoći sa svetom.
Serena Williams - Athlete
With her legendary spirit and unstoppable serve, tennis legend Serena Williams has become one of the world’s most enduring athletic superstars. Full bioGayle King - Journalist
Gayle King is a co-host of "CBS This Morning” and Editor-at-Large of the award-winning O, the Oprah Magazine. Full bio
With her legendary spirit and unstoppable serve, tennis legend Serena Williams has become one of the world’s most enduring athletic superstars. Full bioGayle King - Journalist
Gayle King is a co-host of "CBS This Morning” and Editor-at-Large of the award-winning O, the Oprah Magazine. Full bio
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00:13
Gayle King: Have a seat, Serena Williams,
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Gejl King: Izvoli sedi, Serena Vilijams,
ili bi trebalo da kažemo: Sedi, mama.
ili bi trebalo da kažemo: Sedi, mama.
00:15
or should we say, have a seat, mom.
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00:18
(Cheers)
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(Ovacije)
00:21
So no doubt, you guys are like me.
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Nema sumnje, da ste vi, kao i ja,
videli ono izdanje
videli ono izdanje
00:23
You saw the release of Serena
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Serene u žutom kupaćem kostimu
prosle nedelje.
prosle nedelje.
00:26
in that great yellow
bathing suit last week
bathing suit last week
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kada sam ja videla,
samo sam mislila,
samo sam mislila,
00:28
and when I saw it,
all I could think of was,
all I could think of was,
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00:30
"Gosh, why couldn't she have waited
til we sat onstage for TED?"
til we sat onstage for TED?"
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„Bože, zašto nije mogla da sačeka
dok ne sednemo na TED pozornicu?“
dok ne sednemo na TED pozornicu?“
00:34
I was very selfish, I know.
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Bila sam veoma sebična, znam.
00:36
So I asked you about that picture,
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Pitala sam te za sliku, rekla si mi da
niko nije trebalo da vidi tu sliku.
niko nije trebalo da vidi tu sliku.
00:37
and you said nobody was
supposed to see that picture.
supposed to see that picture.
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Kako to misliš?
00:40
What do you mean?
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00:42
Serena Williams: Well,
actually, it was an accident.
actually, it was an accident.
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Serena Vilijams: Pa, zapravo,
desilo se slučajno.
desilo se slučajno.
00:45
I was on vacation,
just taking some time for myself,
just taking some time for myself,
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Bila sam na odmoru,
imala sam malo vremena za sebe
imala sam malo vremena za sebe
00:47
and I have this thing
where I've been checking my status
where I've been checking my status
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i radim to nešto,
gde proveravam svoje stanje
gde proveravam svoje stanje
00:52
and taking pictures every week
to see how far along I'm going --
to see how far along I'm going --
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i slikala bih se svake nedelje
da vidim kako napredujem -
da vidim kako napredujem -
GK: I delila si možda to sa prijateljima?
00:56
GK: And sharing it with friends, maybe?
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00:58
SW: No, actually
I have just been saving it,
I have just been saving it,
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SV: Ne, zapravo sam samo čuvala to,
01:00
and I didn't really tell a lot of people,
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nije mnogo ljudi znalo, iskreno,
i čuvala sam to,
i čuvala sam to,
01:02
to be quite honest,
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01:04
and I'd been saving it,
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i znate kako to ide sa društvenim mrežama,
pritisneš pogrešno dugme i -
pritisneš pogrešno dugme i -
01:05
and you know how social media is,
you press the wrong button and --
you press the wrong button and --
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01:09
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
01:10
GK: And there it was.
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GK: I tako se to desilo.
SV: 30 minuta kasnije -
moj telefon ne zvoni toliko -
moj telefon ne zvoni toliko -
01:11
SW: So 30 minutes later --
my phone doesn't ring that much --
my phone doesn't ring that much --
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01:14
and 30 minutes later,
I missed like four calls,
I missed like four calls,
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30 minuta kasnije,
imala sam četiri propuštena poziva,
imala sam četiri propuštena poziva,
01:16
and I'm like, that's weird,
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i pomislila sam: to je čudno,
javila sam se i rekla: o, ne.
javila sam se i rekla: o, ne.
01:18
and then I picked it up
and I was like, oh no.
and I was like, oh no.
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Ali to je bio lep trenutak.
01:21
But it was a good moment.
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01:22
I was gonna wait literally
just five or six more days -- that's OK.
just five or six more days -- that's OK.
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Sačekala bih bukvalno još pet, šest dana
- tako da je u redu.
- tako da je u redu.
01:26
GK: I know, because it was weird,
Serena, because it only said 20 weeks,
Serena, because it only said 20 weeks,
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GK: Znam, jer bilo je čudno, Serena,
zato što je samo pisalo 20 nedelja,
zato što je samo pisalo 20 nedelja,
01:29
so it's not like there was
a whole lot of information on it.
a whole lot of information on it.
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tako da nije kao da je bilo
puno informacija tu.
puno informacija tu.
01:32
SW: Exactly, so that's
what I've been doing all this time.
what I've been doing all this time.
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SV: Upravo tako, zato što sam to
sve vreme radila.
sve vreme radila.
01:35
I've been just tracking it.
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Pratila sam. 18, 19, svake nedelje bih se
slikala i sačuvala sliku,
slikala i sačuvala sliku,
01:36
18, 19 -- every week
I'd just take a picture and save it,
I'd just take a picture and save it,
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01:40
and I've been so good about it,
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išlo mi je prilično dobro,
a ovaj jedan put mi je promaklo.
a ovaj jedan put mi je promaklo.
01:41
and this was the one time that I slipped.
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GK: Eto. Pa, čestitam.
SV: Da, hvala.
SV: Da, hvala.
01:46
GK: There you go. Well, congratulations.
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GK: To je stvarno dobro. Kada si saznala,
da li si bila uzbuđena?
da li si bila uzbuđena?
01:48
SW: Yes, thank you.
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01:50
GK: It really is OK.
When you heard the news,
When you heard the news,
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Da li si bila uplašena?
Da li si bila zabrinuta?
Da li si bila zabrinuta?
01:52
were you excited?
Were you afraid? Were you worried?
Were you afraid? Were you worried?
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Da si u drugom stanju, mislim.
01:54
That you were pregnant, I mean.
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SV: Saznala sam dva dana pre početka
Australijen Oupena,
Australijen Oupena,
01:56
SW: So I heard it two days before
the beginning of the Australian Open,
the beginning of the Australian Open,
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koji je jedan od najvećih grend slemova.
02:01
which is one of the biggest grand slams.
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GK: Otkrila si dva dana pre toga?
02:03
GK: You found out two days before?
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SV: Da, dva dana pre toga sam saznala.
Bila sam nervozna.
Bila sam nervozna.
02:04
SW: Yeah, so it was
two days before, and I knew.
two days before, and I knew.
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02:07
I was nervous.
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02:10
I wasn't quite sure what to think,
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Nisam bila sigurna šta da mislim,
ali sam jednostavno znala
ali sam jednostavno znala
02:11
but I just knew that at that moment
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02:13
it was really important for me
to just focus right there
to just focus right there
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da mi je veoma važno da se fokusiram
samo na to, na Australijen Oupen,
samo na to, na Australijen Oupen,
02:16
at the Australian Open,
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definitivno nisam bila sigurna
šta da radim.
šta da radim.
02:17
and I was definitely not sure what to do.
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02:22
I was like, can I play?
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Razmišljala sam, da li smem da igram?
02:23
I know it's very dangerous, maybe,
sometimes in the first 12 weeks or so,
sometimes in the first 12 weeks or so,
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Znam da je ponekad opasno u prvih
12 nedelja ili tako nešto,
12 nedelja ili tako nešto,
02:29
so I had a lot of questions.
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tako da sam imala puno pitanja.
02:30
GK: But not only did you play,
Ms. Williams, you won.
Ms. Williams, you won.
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GK: Ali ti ne samo da si igrala,
gospođice Vilijams, već si i pobedila.
gospođice Vilijams, već si i pobedila.
02:34
(Cheers)
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(Ovacije)
02:37
SW: Yeah.
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SV: Da.
02:40
May I just say, 23 grand slams to you.
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GK: Samo da kažem, 23 grend slema za tebe.
02:44
SW: Thank you.
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SV: Hvala.
02:45
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
GK: A u drugom stanju!
02:47
GK: While pregnant!
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02:48
SW: Well, I was looking
for another handicap, so ... no.
for another handicap, so ... no.
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SV: Pa, tražila sam još jedan hendikep,
tako da... ne...
tako da... ne...
GK: Da li si igrala drugačije taj meč,
znajući da si u drugom stanju?
znajući da si u drugom stanju?
02:51
GK: Did you play differently that game,
knowing you were pregnant?
knowing you were pregnant?
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02:54
SW: I did. It wasn't very easy.
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SV: Jesam. Nije bilo lako.
02:57
You hear all these stories
about people when they're pregnant,
about people when they're pregnant,
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Čuješ sve te priče o ljudima
kad su u drugom stanju,
kad su u drugom stanju,
03:00
they get sick and they get tired.
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da im je muka i umorni su.
GK: Da li si imala jutarnje mučnine?
03:01
GK: Have you had morning sickness?
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03:03
SW: No, I've been so fortunate
and so I haven't.
and so I haven't.
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SV: Ne, imala sam sreće, da nisam.
03:06
But they get really tired
and they get really stressed out,
and they get really stressed out,
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Ali ljudi se umore
i budu stvarno pod stresom,
i budu stvarno pod stresom,
03:09
and I had to really take all that energy,
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a ja sam morala svu tu energiju,
da spakujem u kutiju, da tako kažem,
da spakujem u kutiju, da tako kažem,
03:12
put it in a paper bag, so to say,
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03:14
and throw it away,
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i da je bacim, zato što sam
stvarno osećala da nemam vremena
stvarno osećala da nemam vremena
03:15
because I really felt
like I didn't have time
like I didn't have time
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03:17
to deal with any extra emotions,
any extra anything,
any extra anything,
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da se suočavam sa dodatnim emocijama,
ili bilo čim,
ili bilo čim,
03:20
because pregnant or not, no one knew,
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u drugom stanju ili ne, niko nije znao,
i trebalo je da osvojim turnir
i trebalo je da osvojim turnir
03:23
and I was supposed to win that tournament
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kao što se očekuje na svakom turniru
na kom se pojavim.
na kom se pojavim.
03:25
as I am every tournament that I show up.
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03:27
I am expected to win,
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Očekuje se od mene da pobedim,
i ako ne pobedim, to je još veća vest.
i ako ne pobedim, to je još veća vest.
03:28
and if I don't win,
it's actually much bigger news.
it's actually much bigger news.
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03:30
GK: Yeah, when you don't win,
that's a big story.
that's a big story.
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GK: Da, kada ne pobediš,
to je baš velika priča.
to je baš velika priča.
03:33
SW: Yes, so for me,
I had to really take anything negative
I had to really take anything negative
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SV: Da, tako da zbog sebe, morala sam
sve negativno,
sve negativno,
03:36
and any emotions
that I was feeling at that point
that I was feeling at that point
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bilo kakva osećanja koja sam imala
u tom trenutku
u tom trenutku
03:39
and kind of just bottle them up
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da, na neki način, potisnem,
i da stvarno odlučim svoj sledeći korak.
i da stvarno odlučim svoj sledeći korak.
03:41
and really figure out
what the next step for me to do was.
what the next step for me to do was.
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GK: Imaš dosta podrške i ljubavi.
03:44
GK: You have a lot of support.
You have a lot of love.
You have a lot of love.
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Kada sam dolazila ovde, ljudi su me
zaustavljali na aerodromu.
zaustavljali na aerodromu.
03:47
Even when I was coming here,
people stopped me at the airport.
people stopped me at the airport.
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Govorila bih osoblju u avionu:
„Pogađajte gde idem?“
„Pogađajte gde idem?“
03:50
I was saying to the flight attendant,
the pilot, "Guess where I'm going?"
the pilot, "Guess where I'm going?"
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Oni su rekli: „Stvarno, baš nam je
drago da je u drugom stanju.“
drago da je u drugom stanju.“
03:53
They said, "Oh my God,
we're so glad she's pregnant."
we're so glad she's pregnant."
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Ali onda imaš i one mrzovoljne.
03:56
But then you always have
these cranky Yankees.
these cranky Yankees.
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Na putu ovamo, neko mi je pričao
o Ili Nastasovom,
o Ili Nastasovom,
03:58
On the way over here, somebody
was telling me about Ilie Nastase,
was telling me about Ilie Nastase,
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koji je rekao neke ružne, neprikladne,
usudiću se da kažem, rasističke stvari.
usudiću se da kažem, rasističke stvari.
04:01
who said some very unkind, inappropriate,
dare I say racial things.
dare I say racial things.
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Ti si mu odgovorila.
04:04
You have responded to him.
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Neću čak da udostojim to što je on rekao,
ali ti si odgovorila. Zašto si odgovorila?
ali ti si odgovorila. Zašto si odgovorila?
04:05
I'm not even going
to dignify what he said,
to dignify what he said,
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04:08
but you responded. Why did you respond?
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SV: Pa, mislim da su to veoma
neprikladni komentari,
neprikladni komentari,
04:09
SW: Well, I think there are
very inappropriate comments,
very inappropriate comments,
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i ne samo to, ja sam oduvek podržavala
moje kolege i ljude sa kojima radim.
moje kolege i ljude sa kojima radim.
04:12
and not only that, I've been
really supportive of my peers
really supportive of my peers
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04:15
and the people that I've worked with.
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04:17
I've been a pro for almost 20 years,
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Profesionalac sam skoro 20 godina.
04:18
and so for me, it's really important
to hold women up,
to hold women up,
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Tako da za mene je veoma važno
da podržavam žene,
da podržavam žene,
04:21
and it's something that these young women,
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i to je nešto što ove mlade žene,
04:23
they'll come to the locker room,
they'll want to take pictures with me,
they'll want to take pictures with me,
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one dolaze u svlačionicu,
htele bi da se slikaju sa mnom,
htele bi da se slikaju sa mnom,
04:26
and for me, it's just like,
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i za mene, to je važno,
04:28
I want to be able to be a good leader
and a good example for them.
and a good example for them.
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želim da budem dobar lider
i dobar primer za njih.
i dobar primer za njih.
04:31
So not only --
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Tako da ne samo -
04:32
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
04:33
Not only did he have rude things
to say about me and my peers,
to say about me and my peers,
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Ne samo da je on rekao nepristojne stvari
o meni i o mojim kolegama,
o meni i o mojim kolegama,
već sam osećala da je važno
da odbranimo jedni druge,
da odbranimo jedni druge,
04:38
I felt it was important
for us to stand up for each other
for us to stand up for each other
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ali isto tako i da odbranim sebe.
04:40
and to stand up for myself.
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04:42
And at that point it was
really important for me to say,
really important for me to say,
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U tom trenutku mi je bilo veoma
važno da kažem:
važno da kažem:
04:44
like, I'm not afraid,
I'm not going anywhere,
I'm not going anywhere,
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Ne plašim se, ne idem nikud,
ali ovo je neprikladno,
ali ovo je neprikladno,
04:47
but this is inappropriate,
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04:50
and there's time and there's
a place for everything.
a place for everything.
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i postoji vreme i mesto za sve.
A to stvarno nije bilo ni vreme ni mesto.
A to stvarno nije bilo ni vreme ni mesto.
04:52
And that really
wasn't the time and the place.
wasn't the time and the place.
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GK: Uhvatili smo taj deo gde si rekla
da ne ideš nikud,
da ne ideš nikud,
04:55
GK: We cut the part where you said
you're not going anywhere,
you're not going anywhere,
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jer puniš 36 godina u septembru.
Beba dolazi, 36 godina.
Beba dolazi, 36 godina.
04:58
because you'll be 36 in September.
Baby's coming, 36.
Baby's coming, 36.
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Tvoj trener je rekao da su godine
uvek bitne,
uvek bitne,
05:00
And your coach said
age is always important,
age is always important,
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05:02
but in tennis it's very important,
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u tenisu su još važnije,
ali on ne sumnja da ćeš se ti vratiti.
ali on ne sumnja da ćeš se ti vratiti.
05:04
but he has no doubt
that you're coming back.
that you're coming back.
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Da li si razmišljala: Da li se vraćam?
Da li ću uzeti malo slobodnog vremena?
Da li ću uzeti malo slobodnog vremena?
05:06
Have you thought, am I coming back?
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05:08
Will I take some time off?
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05:10
I know the women on the tour are saying,
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Znam da žene na turniru pričaju:
„Koliko je potrebno za bebu?
Biće odsutna dve godine?“
Biće odsutna dve godine?“
05:12
"How long does it take to have a baby?
Two years will she be gone?"
Two years will she be gone?"
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Šta ti misliš?
05:15
What are you thinking?
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SV: Pa, ja uvek pokušavam
da prkosim predviđanjima, znaš,
da prkosim predviđanjima, znaš,
05:16
SW: Well, I'm always trying
to defy the odds, you know,
to defy the odds, you know,
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tako da je za mene zapravo sve u glavi.
05:19
so for me everything is really mental.
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Definitivno planiram da se vratim.
Nisam još završila.
Nisam još završila.
05:21
I definitely plan on coming back.
I'm not done yet.
I'm not done yet.
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05:24
I'm really inspired by my sister.
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Veoma me inspiriše moja sestra.
05:26
She's a year older than me,
and that's something that --
and that's something that --
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Ona je godinu dana starija od mene,
i to je nešto što -
i to je nešto što -
05:28
if she's still playing, I know I can play.
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ako ona može da igra, znam da mogu i ja.
05:30
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:32
And there's so many -- Roger Federer,
he's a little bit older than me
he's a little bit older than me
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I mnogi drugi - Rodžer Federer,
on je malo stariji od mene,
on je malo stariji od mene,
05:35
and he's still winning everything,
so I'm like, I know I can do that too.
so I'm like, I know I can do that too.
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a i dalje osvaja sve, tako da
znam da mogu i ja to.
znam da mogu i ja to.
05:39
So that's been so inspiring to me,
especially recently,
especially recently,
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To je ono što me inspiriše,
posebno u skorije vreme,
posebno u skorije vreme,
05:43
and I know that
it's something I want to do.
it's something I want to do.
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znam da je to nešto što želim da uradim.
Moja priča definitivno nije završena.
Moja priča definitivno nije završena.
05:45
And my story is definitely not over yet.
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Razgovarala sam sa svojim trenerom o tome,
05:48
I was talking to my coach about it,
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05:50
and we were talking about
how this is just a new part of my life,
how this is just a new part of my life,
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i pričali smo kako je ovo samo novi
deo mog života,
deo mog života,
05:54
and my baby's going to be in the stands
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i moja beba će biti na tribinama
05:56
and hopefully cheering for me,
not crying too much.
not crying too much.
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i nadajmo se navijati za mene,
i neće plakati puno.
i neće plakati puno.
05:59
GK: No, you wrote a beautiful
letter to your baby yesterday
letter to your baby yesterday
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GK: Ne, napisala si juče divno pismo
svojoj bebi
svojoj bebi
06:02
that you said -- from the oldest mommy
to the youngest one,
to the youngest one,
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u kom si rekla: od najstarije mame
najmlađoj,
najmlađoj,
06:04
to the oldest, to the youngest,
I can't wait for you to get here.
I can't wait for you to get here.
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od najstarije najmlađoj,
jedva čekam da dođeš na ovaj svet.
jedva čekam da dođeš na ovaj svet.
06:08
A lot of people feel that.
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Mnogo ljudi to oseća.
Videla sam te pre godinu dana...
jer razmišljam o tvom životu, Serena.
jer razmišljam o tvom životu, Serena.
06:09
I saw you about a year ago,
because I think about your life, Serena.
because I think about your life, Serena.
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06:12
You've had three life-changing things
in a six-month time:
in a six-month time:
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Imala si tri velike životne promene
u periodu od šest meseci:
u periodu od šest meseci:
06:16
pregnant, huge win, fell in love.
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u drugom stanju, velika pobeda,
zaljubila si se.
zaljubila si se.
Kada sam te videla prošle godine,
06:19
And when I saw you last year,
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pitala sam te: „Kako ide ljubavni život?
Bla bla bla.“
Bla bla bla.“
06:21
I was saying, "How's
your love life? Da da da."
your love life? Da da da."
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Ti si mi rekla: „Upoznala sam tipa.
On je štreberski tip. Sigurno ga ne znaš.“
On je štreberski tip. Sigurno ga ne znaš.“
06:23
You said, "I met a guy.
He's a nerdy, kinda geeky guy.
He's a nerdy, kinda geeky guy.
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06:26
You won't know who he is."
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Ja sam te pitala: „Kako se zove?“
06:28
I said, "What's his name?"
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06:29
SW: I remember talking
to you about that, yes.
to you about that, yes.
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SV: Sećam se da smo pričale o tome, da.
GK: Ti si rekla: „Aleksis Ohenijan.“
Ja sam rekla: „Znam ga!“
Ja sam rekla: „Znam ga!“
06:31
GK: And you said, "Alexis Ohanian."
I said, "I know him!" He's awesome.
I said, "I know him!" He's awesome.
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On je fenomenalan. Ali nikad te ne bih
spojila sa takvim tipom, ti kažeš - Ni ja.
spojila sa takvim tipom, ti kažeš - Ni ja.
06:35
But I would never put you
with a nerdy geek,
with a nerdy geek,
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06:37
and you said, you neither.
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06:39
SW: I'm going to be honest
with you, I didn't either,
with you, I didn't either,
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SV: Biću iskrena sa tobom,
ni ja nikad ne bih,
ni ja nikad ne bih,
ali to je bilo najbolje za mene.
06:41
but it's been the best thing for me.
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GK: Najbolje zbog čega?
06:43
GK: The best thing why?
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06:45
Does that look like a nerdy geek?
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Zar ne liči na štrebera?
Pogledajte tu košulju.
Pogledajte tu košulju.
06:46
Look at the shirt.
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06:48
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
Ne, stvarno, veoma je dobar lik.
06:49
No, he's a very nice guy.
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SV: Mogli biste da kažete da je
u tehnologiji.
u tehnologiji.
06:50
SW: You can tell he's into technology.
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06:52
GK: He's a very, very nice guy.
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GK: On je veoma, veoma dobar lik.
Veoma mi je drag.
Veoma mi je drag.
06:54
I like him very much.
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06:55
So how did he succeed
when others have failed?
when others have failed?
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Pa kako je on uspeo dok drugi nisu?
06:58
How was he the one that you knew,
this is the one for me?
this is the one for me?
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Kako si znala da je on taj -
on je pravi za mene?
on je pravi za mene?
07:01
SW: Well, I'm not going to say that,
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SV: Pa, to neću reći,
07:04
but ...
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ali..
07:05
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
07:06
GK: Say it, Serena, say it!
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GK: Kaži, Serena, kaži!
07:08
SW: Well ...
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SV: Pa...
07:09
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
07:12
Yes.
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Da.
07:14
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
07:17
GK: But you know what I mean.
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GK: Ali znaš na šta mislim.
07:18
SW: He is very loving and he's very kind,
and my mom says he's very considerate,
and my mom says he's very considerate,
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SV: On je pun ljubavi i veoma je dobar,
i moja mama kaže da je veoma pažljiv,
i moja mama kaže da je veoma pažljiv,
07:22
and when she said that to me,
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i kada mi je to rekla, pomislila sam -
Znaš šta, stvarno jeste,
Znaš šta, stvarno jeste,
07:23
I was like, you know, he really is,
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07:25
and it's the little things that really
make a huge difference in life.
make a huge difference in life.
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tu su i male stvari koje stvarno
čine veliku razliku u životu.
čine veliku razliku u životu.
07:29
GK: Like?
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GK. Kao na primer?
07:30
SW: Something simple.
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SV. Nešto jednostavno.
07:31
My fashion company,
we have a show every year,
we have a show every year,
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Moja modna kompanija,
imamo svake godine reviju,
imamo svake godine reviju,
07:34
so in our show last year,
I was running around like crazy,
I was running around like crazy,
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na reviji prošle godine, trčala sam
okolo kao luda,
okolo kao luda,
07:37
because I do everything for the show,
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jer ja radim sve za reviju, i sve oko nje,
i tako sam trčala okolo kao luda,
i tako sam trčala okolo kao luda,
07:39
and everything for it,
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07:40
so I was running around like crazy,
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07:42
and he, it was a simple gesture
of this shirt that he had,
of this shirt that he had,
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i on, bio je to običan znak pažnje,
imao je tu košulju,
imao je tu košulju,
07:46
and he just wanted to make sure
that I had the same one,
that I had the same one,
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i hteo je da se pobrine
da i ja imam istu,
da i ja imam istu,
07:49
and it was -- it's a weird story.
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i to je bilo - čudna priča.
Bilo je bolje uživo, stvarno.
Bilo je bolje uživo, stvarno.
07:52
It was better in person, I promise.
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07:54
GK: Was it a wonderful proposal?
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GK: Da li je bila lepa prosidba?
Ili je bilo kao u pesmi Bjonse?
Ili je bilo kao u pesmi Bjonse?
07:56
Or was it a Beyoncé song?
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„Ako ti se sviđa, trebalo bi
da staviš prsten na njemu.“?
da staviš prsten na njemu.“?
07:58
"If you like it then you
ought to put a ring on it"?
ought to put a ring on it"?
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08:00
Were you feeling pressure to get married?
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Da li si osećala pritisak da se udaš?
Da li si znala da će se desiti?
Da li si znala da će se desiti?
08:02
Did you know it was coming?
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08:04
SW: Yeah, I actually
never felt pressure to get married
never felt pressure to get married
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SV: Ja u stvari nikad nisam osećala
pritisak da se udam
pritisak da se udam
08:06
and I can't say
I'm the marrying type of person.
I'm the marrying type of person.
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ne mogu da kažem da sam tip za udaju.
Zaista volim svoj život. Volim slobodu.
08:09
I really love my life.
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08:11
I love my freedom.
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08:12
I heard that kind of changes.
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Čula sam da se to promeni.
08:14
But I love everything that I do,
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Ali volim sve što radim,
volim svoju karijeru,
volim svoju karijeru,
08:18
and I love my career,
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08:20
and I always felt like I didn't want
anything to interfere with that.
anything to interfere with that.
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i uvek sam osećala da ne želim
da se bilo šta ispreči tome.
da se bilo šta ispreči tome.
08:24
I've actually been so career-oriented
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Bila sam u stvari fokusirana na karijeru
08:25
and in fact, when he proposed,
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i zapravo, kada me je zaprosio,
bila sam skoro ljuta.
bila sam skoro ljuta.
08:28
I was almost angry.
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08:29
Not almost. I was angry,
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Ne skoro. Bila sam ljuta zato što je bilo
u sred sezone treniranja,
u sred sezone treniranja,
08:31
because it was right
in the middle of my training season,
in the middle of my training season,
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i rekla sam mu: „Moram da osvojim
Australijen Oupen.
Australijen Oupen.
08:33
and I said, "I gotta win
the Australian Open.
the Australian Open.
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08:36
I can't fly to Rome."
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Ne mogu da letim za Rim.“
Zato što je hteo da me vodi u Rim,
i rekla sam: „Ne mogu. Moram da pobedim.“
i rekla sam: „Ne mogu. Moram da pobedim.“
08:37
Because he wanted to take me to Rome,
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08:39
and I said, "I can't. I gotta win."
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Toliko sam fokusirana.
08:41
But that's how focused I was.
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GK: Ovo je devojka koja kaže:
„Ne, ja ne mogu da idem u Rim.“ Dobro.
„Ne, ja ne mogu da idem u Rim.“ Dobro.
08:42
GK: This is a girl that says,
"No, I can't go to Rome." OK.
"No, I can't go to Rome." OK.
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SV: Bila sam veoma fokusirana
da postignem svoje ciljeve
da postignem svoje ciljeve
08:45
SW: But I was really focused
on reaching my goals
on reaching my goals
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i znala sam da je u tom trenutku postojao
jedan igrač kog želim da prestignem.
jedan igrač kog želim da prestignem.
08:48
and I knew at that point there was
one player that I wanted to pass.
one player that I wanted to pass.
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08:51
I wanted to pass Steffi Graf's record,
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Želela sam da pređem rekord Štefi Graf,
i to mi je veoma značilo,
i to mi je veoma značilo,
08:53
and that really meant a lot to me,
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08:55
and when I put my mind to something,
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a ja kada se usmerim na nešto, zaista sam
odlučna da postignem to uprkos svemu.
odlučna da postignem to uprkos svemu.
08:57
I really am determined to reach it
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08:59
no matter what.
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GK: Znaš, rekla si da ti je -
09:00
GK: You know, you said that for you --
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čula sam te da kažeš
da si zavisna od pobeda.
da si zavisna od pobeda.
09:02
I've heard you say
that winning is addictive to you.
that winning is addictive to you.
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SV: Jeste.
09:05
SW: It is.
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GK: Kako to misliš?
09:06
GK: What do you mean?
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09:07
SW: I feel like winning for me
is superaddictive.
is superaddictive.
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SV: Mislim da sam veoma zavisna od pobeda.
09:10
I feel like once you experience it,
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Mislim da kada jednom iskusiš to,
uvek želiš da povratiš taj osećaj,
uvek želiš da povratiš taj osećaj,
09:13
you always want to get that feeling again,
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09:15
and when I won my first championship,
I was only 17 years old,
I was only 17 years old,
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kada sam osvojila prvo prvenstvo,
imala sam samo 17 godina,
imala sam samo 17 godina,
09:18
but I never forgot that feeling,
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ali nikad nisam zaboravila taj osećaj,
i svaki put kada osvojim još jedan,
i svaki put kada osvojim još jedan,
09:20
and I feel like every time I win one,
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09:23
I want to reach that feeling
of your first championship.
of your first championship.
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želim da dostignem taj osećaj
sa prvog prvenstva.
sa prvog prvenstva.
09:25
There's really no feeling
in the world like that.
in the world like that.
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Ne postoji osećaj na svetu kao taj.
09:28
And it's like, all these years of training
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I sve ove godine treniranja
i kad sam bila dete i igrala,
i kad sam bila dete i igrala,
09:31
and being a little kid and playing,
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09:33
and then winning
is a wonderful experience.
is a wonderful experience.
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onda je pobeda predivan osećaj.
09:36
So for me I've always felt
like I loved that feeling,
like I loved that feeling,
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Tako da sam uvek obožavala taj osećaj,
09:41
and obviously I don't like
the feeling of losing. I feel like --
the feeling of losing. I feel like --
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I očigledno ne volim osećaj kada izgubim.
Osećam se -
Osećam se -
GK: Ne, u stvari, ljudi koji su ti bliski
kažu da veoma teško gubiš.
kažu da veoma teško gubiš.
09:44
GK: No, in fact, people close to you
say you're a very bad loser.
say you're a very bad loser.
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09:47
SW: I'm not the best loser.
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SV: Nisam baš najbolja u gubljenju.
09:49
GK: That you're very, very, very bad.
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GK: Da veoma, veoma, veoma teško gubiš.
09:51
Listen, no athlete,
no champion likes to lose.
no champion likes to lose.
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Slušaj, nijedan sportista, ni šampion
ne voli da gubi. Razumem to.
ne voli da gubi. Razumem to.
09:53
I get that.
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09:54
But they say when it comes to losing,
you are very, very, very bad at it.
you are very, very, very bad at it.
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Ali kažu da kada se radi o gubljenju,
ti si veoma, veoma loša u tome.
ti si veoma, veoma loša u tome.
09:58
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
10:00
SW: I'm number one at losing too,
so you know, that's all I can say.
so you know, that's all I can say.
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SV: Ja sam broj jedan i u gubljenju,
tako da, znate, to je sve što ću reći.
tako da, znate, to je sve što ću reći.
10:03
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
10:05
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
10:07
GK: I'm always curious about the dynamic
between you and Venus,
between you and Venus,
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GK: Oduvek me je zanimala ta dinamika
između tebe i Venus,
između tebe i Venus,
10:10
because everybody that knows you
and has followed the story
and has followed the story
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zato što svako ko te poznaje i prati priču
zna da ste vas dve veoma bliske,
zna da ste vas dve veoma bliske,
10:13
knows that you two are very close,
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i ti uvek sve što radiš,
radiš na najvišem nivou
radiš na najvišem nivou
10:15
and you always bring your A game
in whatever you do,
in whatever you do,
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10:17
but I often wonder,
when you're playing her,
when you're playing her,
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ali se često pitam, kada igraš protiv nje,
da li igraš malo lošije jer želiš da
učiniš nešto za nju
učiniš nešto za nju
10:19
do you bring your A- game
because you want to do something for her
because you want to do something for her
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10:23
or do you bring your A++ game
because you want to crush her.
because you want to crush her.
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ili igraš još bolje zato što želiš
da je uništiš.
da je uništiš.
Da li ti je teže ili lakše da
igraš protiv nje?
igraš protiv nje?
10:26
Is it harder for you
playing her or easier?
playing her or easier?
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SV: Pa, igrati protiv Venus je kao da
igram protiv sebe,
igram protiv sebe,
10:29
SW: Well, playing Venus
is like playing myself,
is like playing myself,
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zato što smo odrasle igrajući
jedna protiv druge, vežbajući zajedno.
jedna protiv druge, vežbajući zajedno.
10:31
because we grew up playing each other,
we grew up practicing together.
we grew up practicing together.
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To je nešto što je uvek bilo teško,
zato što je ona moj najjači protivnik.
zato što je ona moj najjači protivnik.
10:34
And it was something
that has been difficult,
that has been difficult,
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10:37
because she's my toughest opponent.
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10:39
She's tall, she's fast,
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Visoka je, brza je, udara jako kao ja,
servira kao ja.
servira kao ja.
10:40
she hits hard like me, she serves like me.
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Stvarno je kao da igraš sa zidom.
10:44
It's really like playing a wall.
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10:45
GK: She knows you.
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GK: Ona te poznaje.
10:46
SW: She knows where I'm hitting
the ball before I hit it,
the ball before I hit it,
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SV: Ona zna gde ću udariti loptu
pre nego što je udarim,
pre nego što je udarim,
10:49
so it's something that is not very easy,
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tako da je to nešto što nije uopšte lako,
ali je sve u tome da kada izađem na teren,
ali je sve u tome da kada izađem na teren,
10:52
but it's really about,
when I go out there,
when I go out there,
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10:54
I really have to shut down my mind
and I have to say to myself,
and I have to say to myself,
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stvarno moram da se isključim
i moram da kažem sebi: „Znaš šta?
i moram da kažem sebi: „Znaš šta?
10:57
"You know what?
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10:59
I'm just playing a great player,
but today I have to be better.
but today I have to be better.
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Samo igram protiv velikog igrača,
ali danas moram da budem bolja.
ali danas moram da budem bolja.
11:02
I don't care who it is,
if it's my sister or it's my friend,
if it's my sister or it's my friend,
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Ne zanima me ko je to,
da li je to moja sestra ili moj prijatelj,
da li je to moja sestra ili moj prijatelj,
11:06
today is the day I have to show up
and I have to be better
and I have to be better
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danas je dan kada moram da se dokažem
i moram da budem bolja
i moram da budem bolja
11:09
and I have to want it more
than anyone else at this moment
than anyone else at this moment
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i moram da želim to više nego
bilo ko ovog trenutka, bilo gde na svetu.“
bilo ko ovog trenutka, bilo gde na svetu.“
11:13
anywhere on this world."
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11:14
GK: So never on the court
do you fall back for Venus?
do you fall back for Venus?
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GK: Znači nikad ne popuštaš Venus
na terenu?
na terenu?
11:18
Because, you know,
it was always Venus and Serena.
it was always Venus and Serena.
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Zato što, znaš, uvek je bilo
Venus i Serena.
Venus i Serena.
11:22
SW: Yes.
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SV: Da.
11:24
GK: And now baby sister
has surpassed older sister.
has surpassed older sister.
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GK: I sada je mlađa sestra prevazišla
stariju sestru
stariju sestru
11:26
Do you feel guilt about that?
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Da li osećaš krivicu zbog toga?
Da li osećaš radost u tome?
Da li osećaš radost u tome?
11:28
Do you feel joy in that?
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11:29
Is that a difficult position for you?
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Da li je to teška pozicija za tebe?
11:31
SW: I don't feel anything in there.
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SV: Ne osećam ništa u tome.
11:33
In my life, it still and forever
is always going to be Venus and Serena.
is always going to be Venus and Serena.
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U mom životu, i dalje je i uvek će biti
Venus i Serena.
Venus i Serena.
11:37
She's really love of my life,
she's my best friend,
she's my best friend,
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Ona je zaista ljubav mog života,
ona je moj najbolji prijatelj,
ona je moj najbolji prijatelj,
11:40
she's my soul mate.
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ona je moja srodna duša.
11:41
I mean --
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Mislim -
Postoje fotografije kako me ona gura,
Postoje fotografije kako me ona gura,
11:43
There's pictures of her pushing me,
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11:45
really low-quality pictures
or else I would have shared them,
or else I would have shared them,
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fotografije lošeg kvaliteta,
inače bih ih podelila,
inače bih ih podelila,
11:48
of her pushing me
in a stroller on a tennis court,
in a stroller on a tennis court,
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kako me ona gura u kolicima,
na teniskom terenu,
na teniskom terenu,
11:50
and she always took care of me.
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uvek je brinula o meni.
Nekad sam trošila sav svoj džeparac
na sladolede i takve stvari,
na sladolede i takve stvari,
11:52
I used to spend all of my allowance
money on the ice cream truck and stuff,
money on the ice cream truck and stuff,
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11:55
and she would take her money
and give it to me at school
and give it to me at school
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i ona bi dala meni svoj novac u školi
i pobrinula se da ja imam
šta da jedem, a ona bi otišla bez ičega,
šta da jedem, a ona bi otišla bez ičega,
12:00
and make sure I had something to eat
and she would go without,
and she would go without,
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12:02
and that's the kind of person
she actually is
she actually is
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eto takva je ona osoba, zapravo,
otkad je ja znam.
otkad je ja znam.
12:05
since I've always known her.
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12:07
So we always have this incredible
respect for each other
respect for each other
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Tako da mi uvek imamo to neverovatno
poštovanje jedna prema drugoj
poštovanje jedna prema drugoj
12:11
and this incredible love,
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i neverovatnu ljubav,
12:12
and I think it's important for people
to realize you can be successful
to realize you can be successful
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i mislim da je važno da ljudi shvate
da možeš da budeš uspešan
da možeš da budeš uspešan
12:15
but you can still have
a wonderful relationship.
a wonderful relationship.
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a da i dalje imaš predivan odnos.
Na terenu mi smo smrtni neprijatelji,
12:17
On the court we are mortal enemies,
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ali čim se rukujemo, mi smo najbolji
prijatelji ponovo.
prijatelji ponovo.
12:19
but the second we shake hands,
we are best friends again.
we are best friends again.
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12:23
And if I lose, it might be
a day later for me,
a day later for me,
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I ako izgubim, možda će biti dan kasnije
za mene,
za mene,
12:28
but for Venus --
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ali za Venus -
12:29
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
GK: Ne postoji trenutak na terenu
kada udariš loptu
kada udariš loptu
12:32
GK: There's never a time on the court
where you hit the ball
where you hit the ball
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i kažeš: „Ovo je za ono u sedmom razredu
kada si uradila to i to?“
kada si uradila to i to?“
12:35
and say, "That's for seventh grade
when you did the blah blah blah"?
when you did the blah blah blah"?
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Nemaš takve trenutke?
12:38
You never have any moment like that?
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SV. Mislim da bi ona trebala da ima
takve trenutke,
takve trenutke,
12:40
SW: I feel like she should have
those moments,
those moments,
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zato što ona nikad nije uradila
ništa loše meni,
ništa loše meni,
12:42
because she's never done
anything bad to me,
anything bad to me,
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12:44
but I'm the youngest.
I'm the younger sister.
I'm the younger sister.
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ali ja sam najmlađa. Ja sam mlađa sestra.
GK: Serena, nikad ti nije uradila
ništa loše? Stvarno?
ništa loše? Stvarno?
12:47
GK: Serena, she's never done
anything bad to you? Really?
anything bad to you? Really?
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Ja imam tri sestre. Mogla bih da se setim
nekih loših stvari koje sam im uradila.
nekih loših stvari koje sam im uradila.
12:49
I have three sisters.
I can think of some stuff I've done bad.
I can think of some stuff I've done bad.
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12:53
SW: Unless she brainwashed me
to forget them.
to forget them.
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SV: Osim ako mi nije isprala mozak
da ih zaboravim.
da ih zaboravim.
12:56
GK: No, but the love you have for her
I know is very pure. I know that.
I know is very pure. I know that.
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GK: Ne, ali ljubav koju imaš za nju,
znam da je veoma čista. Znam to.
znam da je veoma čista. Znam to.
12:59
SW: Yes. GK: I know that.
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SV: Da.
GK: Znam to.
GK: Znam to.
SV: Oduvek smo vaspitavane da budemo
veoma bliske,
veoma bliske,
13:00
SW: We were always brought up
to be superclose,
to be superclose,
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13:03
and we are incredibly close.
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i mi i jesmo neverovatno bliske.
Ne samo sa njom.
Ne samo sa njom.
13:04
Not only her.
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13:05
I have three other sisters as well,
and we were always so close.
and we were always so close.
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Imam još tri sestre, i oduvek smo
bile toliko bliske.
bile toliko bliske.
GK: Znači pre velikog meča, vas dve se
ne sastanete
ne sastanete
13:11
GK: So before a big match,
the two of you don't get together
the two of you don't get together
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i kažete: Vidi, izaći ćemo na teren i -
ne postoji nešto tako?
ne postoji nešto tako?
13:13
and say, look, we're going
to go out there and -- there's nothing?
to go out there and -- there's nothing?
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SV: Pa, to je zanimljivo.
13:17
SW: Well, it's funny.
Before the Australian Open,
Before the Australian Open,
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Pre Australijen Oupena, bile smo
u svlačionici zajedno,
u svlačionici zajedno,
13:19
we were in the locker room together,
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ja je uvek zadirkujem, i uzela sam
telefon dok se presvlačila.
telefon dok se presvlačila.
13:21
and I always pick on her, so I pulled out
my camera while she was changing.
my camera while she was changing.
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I počela da je slikam, što je
bilo potpuno neprikladno,
bilo potpuno neprikladno,
13:24
I started taking pictures of her,
which is totally inappropriate,
which is totally inappropriate,
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bila je toliko besna na mene.
13:28
but she was so mad at me.
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13:29
She's like, "Serena, stop!"
And I was just laughing at her.
And I was just laughing at her.
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Rekla mi je: „Serena, prestani!“
A ja sam se samo smejala.
A ja sam se samo smejala.
13:32
But that's the kind of relationship
that we have, and like I said,
that we have, and like I said,
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Ali takav odnos mi imamo,
i kao što sam rekla,
i kao što sam rekla,
13:36
the second we step on the court,
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od trenutka kada smo stupile na teren,
definitivno smo bile smrtni neprijatelji,
definitivno smo bile smrtni neprijatelji,
13:37
it was like, we were
definitely mortal enemies,
definitely mortal enemies,
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13:42
but the second we stepped off,
and moments before, we're just --
and moments before, we're just --
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ali od trenutka kada smo napustile teren,
i malo pre nego što smo izašle, mi smo -
i malo pre nego što smo izašle, mi smo -
13:46
It is what it is,
because at the end of the day,
because at the end of the day,
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To je ono šta je bitno, zato što,
posle svega, ona će uvek biti moja sestra.
posle svega, ona će uvek biti moja sestra.
13:48
she'll always be my sister.
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13:49
I'm not going to play Australia in --
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Neću igrati u Australiji -
Pa, ko bi znao, igram dugo,
Pa, ko bi znao, igram dugo,
13:51
Well, who knows,
I've been playing forever,
I've been playing forever,
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13:53
but I don't think
I'll be playing in 50 years, say?
I'll be playing in 50 years, say?
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ali ne mislim da ću igrati za 50 godina,
na primer?
na primer?
13:56
Let's be safe and say 50 years.
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Da budemo sigurni i kažemo 50 godina.
13:57
GK: I don't know, Serena.
There's never been anybody like you.
There's never been anybody like you.
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GK: Ne znam, Serena. Nikad nije
postojao neko kao ti.
postojao neko kao ti.
14:00
When you think about it,
never been anybody
never been anybody
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Ako razmisliš, nikad nije postojao neko
ko je povezivao pol i rasu kao ti,
ko je povezivao pol i rasu kao ti,
14:02
who has intersected
gender and race the way you have,
gender and race the way you have,
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14:05
the dominance that you have
and the scrutiny that you have.
and the scrutiny that you have.
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dominacija koju imaš
i promatranja koja imaš.
i promatranja koja imaš.
Kada si odrastala, da li si govorila:
„Hoću da budem takva.“?
„Hoću da budem takva.“?
14:08
And when you were growing up,
did you say, "I want to be like that"?
did you say, "I want to be like that"?
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Zato što sada devojčice gledaju tebe
i kažu: „Hoću da budem kao ona.“
i kažu: „Hoću da budem kao ona.“
14:11
Because now little girls
are looking at you
are looking at you
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14:13
saying, "I want to be like that."
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Ko je to bio za tebe?
14:15
Who was the "I want
to be like that" for you?
to be like that" for you?
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SV: Pa, to je zanimljivo,
i drago mi je da si to spomenula.
i drago mi je da si to spomenula.
14:17
SW: Well, it's interesting,
and I'm glad you brought that up.
and I'm glad you brought that up.
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Kada sam odrastala, ja sam uvek htela
da budem najbolja,
da budem najbolja,
14:20
For me, when I grew up,
I always wanted to be the best,
I always wanted to be the best,
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i govorila sam: Ako želiš da budeš
najbolji, moraš da imitiraš najbolje.
najbolji, moraš da imitiraš najbolje.
14:23
and I said, if you want to be the best,
you've got to emulate the best.
you've got to emulate the best.
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Onda kada sam počela da idem na turnire,
kada sam bila veoma mlada,
kada sam bila veoma mlada,
14:26
So when I started to go on tour
when I was really young,
when I was really young,
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14:29
I would see Steffi Graf,
I would see Monica Seles,
I would see Monica Seles,
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gledala bih Štefi Graf i Moniku Seleš,
14:31
and I would even see Pete Sampras,
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i čak bih gledala i Pita Samprasa,
i videla bih šta rade,
i videla bih šta rade,
14:33
and I would see what they did,
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14:35
and I noticed that Steffi and Monica
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i primetila sam da Štefi i Monika
ne pričaju baš puno sa ostalim igračima,
ne pričaju baš puno sa ostalim igračima,
14:37
didn't really talk
to a lot of the other players,
to a lot of the other players,
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14:39
and they kind of were on their own,
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bile su nekako svoje, i jednostavno
toliko fokusirane,
toliko fokusirane,
14:41
and they were just so focused
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14:43
and I would see Pete Sampras,
the technique that he did,
the technique that he did,
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i videla bih Pita Samprasa,
tehniku koju je koristio,
tehniku koju je koristio,
14:46
and I was like, "I want to do that."
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i rekla bih: „Želim da uradim to.“
14:48
So I did that, and I felt
that to be the best,
that to be the best,
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I to sam i uradila, i smatrala sam da,
da bi bio najbolji,
da bi bio najbolji,
14:52
and if you want to be the best,
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i ako želiš da budeš najbolji,
moraš da budeš okružen ljudima
moraš da budeš okružen ljudima
14:53
you have to hang around people
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i moraš da se ugledaš na ljude
koji su najbolji,
koji su najbolji,
14:55
and you have to look at people
that are the best,
that are the best,
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jer nećeš biti najbolji ako se ugledaš na
nekog ko nije na vrhunskom nivou.
nekog ko nije na vrhunskom nivou.
14:57
because you're not going to be the best
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14:59
if you're looking at someone
that's not at the top level.
that's not at the top level.
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GK: Ljudi pričaju da niko ne radi tako
naporno kao ti.
naporno kao ti.
15:02
GK: People say
nobody works as hard as you.
nobody works as hard as you.
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SV: Ja veoma naporno radim.
GK: To sam i ja čula.
GK: To sam i ja čula.
15:04
SW: I'm a very hard worker.
GK: That's what I heard.
GK: That's what I heard.
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SV: Ljudi kažu: „Ona je talentovana,
sportski je tip.“
sportski je tip.“
15:06
SW: People say, "Oh,
she's talented, she's athletic."
she's talented, she's athletic."
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Zapravo, nisam bila. Bila sam veoma mala
za svoje godine.
za svoje godine.
15:09
Actually, I wasn't.
I was really small for my age.
I was really small for my age.
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15:11
I grew up when I got older,
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Porasla sam sa godinama, i morala sam
da radim veoma naporno,
da radim veoma naporno,
15:13
and I had to work really hard,
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15:14
and I think one of the reasons
why I fight so hard and I work so hard
why I fight so hard and I work so hard
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i mislim da je jedan od razloga zašto se
borim toliko i zašto radim tako naporno
borim toliko i zašto radim tako naporno
15:17
is because I was
really, really, really small.
really, really, really small.
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jer sam bila veoma, veoma mala.
15:20
GK: Yeah.
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GK: Da.
15:21
You are no longer small.
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Više nisi mala.
15:23
SW: No, I'm fully grown now.
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SV: Ne, sada sam potpuno odrasla.
Ali bila sam veoma mala kada sam
bila dete, koji god razlog bio.
bila dete, koji god razlog bio.
15:26
But I was small when I was really young
for whatever reason.
for whatever reason.
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Mislim da je Venus jela sve pahuljice.
15:29
I think Venus maybe ate all the Wheaties.
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15:32
GK: You know, the other thing
people talk about is your body.
people talk about is your body.
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GK: Znaš, druga stvar o kojoj ljudi
pričaju je tvoje telo.
pričaju je tvoje telo.
Tvoje telo baca i muškarce i žene
na kolena.
na kolena.
15:35
Your body brings men
and women to their knees.
and women to their knees.
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15:38
And I mean in a good way.
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Mislim to na dobar način.
Mnogo je toga napravljeno od tvog tela.
15:40
A lot has been made about your body.
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15:42
It's a work of art,
it's masculine, it's glorious,
it's masculine, it's glorious,
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Ono je umetničko delo, mišićavo je,
za poštovanje je,
za poštovanje je,
nikad nije postojalo takvo.
15:48
there's never been anything like it.
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15:50
Did you have body issues
when you were growing up?
when you were growing up?
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Da li si imala problema sa telom
dok si odrastala?
dok si odrastala?
15:52
Have you always been
comfortable with your body?
comfortable with your body?
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Da li si se uvek osećala prijatno
u svom telu?
u svom telu?
15:55
SW: It's interesting, because
when you're a teenage female
when you're a teenage female
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SV: To je zanimljivo, zato što kada si
tinejdžerka koja odrasta u javnosti,
tinejdžerka koja odrasta u javnosti,
15:57
growing up in the public eye,
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postoji dosta razmatranja
sa kojima se suočavaš,
sa kojima se suočavaš,
15:59
it is a lot of scrutiny that you face,
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i kao i svako žensko koje je tinejdžer,
16:01
and as any female that's a teenager,
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I definitely was not
comfortable in my body.
comfortable in my body.
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definitivno se nisam osećala prijatno
u svom telu.
u svom telu.
16:06
I didn't like it.
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Nije mi se sviđalo. Nisam razumela
zašto imam mišiće.
zašto imam mišiće.
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I didn't understand why I had muscles.
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And I stopped lifting weights.
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I prestala sam da dižem tegove.
Rekla sam: Neću da radim to.
Rekla sam: Neću da radim to.
16:11
I was like, I'm not going to do this.
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Ali nakon što sam osvojila JuEs Oupen,
16:13
But then after I won the US Open,
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shvatila sam da mi je moje telo pomoglo
da postignem ciljeve koje sam želela,
da postignem ciljeve koje sam želela,
16:15
I realized that my body helped me
reach goals that I wanted to reach,
reach goals that I wanted to reach,
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and I wanted to be happy with it,
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i htela sam da budem zadovoljna njime,
i bila sam zahvalna na njemu.
i bila sam zahvalna na njemu.
16:20
and I was so appreciative of it.
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Uvek sam zdrava. Stvarno imam sreće,
16:22
I'm always healthy.
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I'm really fortunate and superblessed,
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16:25
and I felt like not only
am I happy with my body,
am I happy with my body,
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i mislim da ne samo da sam srećna
zbog svog tela
zbog svog tela
16:28
but I want other people
and other young girls
and other young girls
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već želim i drugi ljudi i mlade devojke
16:30
that have experienced
what I've experienced
what I've experienced
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koje se suočavaju sa onim
sa čim sam se i ja suočavala,
sa čim sam se i ja suočavala,
16:33
to be happy with themselves.
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da budu zadovoljni sobom.
16:34
So whatever people say --
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Tako da šta god ljudi govorili -
mišićavo, štagod, previše, premalo -
mišićavo, štagod, previše, premalo -
16:36
masculine, whatever,
too much, too little --
too much, too little --
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16:38
I'm OK with it as long as I love myself.
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to mi je u redu sve dok ja volim sebe.
16:42
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
16:46
GK: I know you learn a lot from winning,
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GK: Znam da mnogo toga naučiš iz pobeda,
ali šta si naučila iz poraza?
ali šta si naučila iz poraza?
16:48
but what have you learned from losing?
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SV: Mrzim da gubim, ali mislim da su me
porazi doveli ovde gde jesam danas.
porazi doveli ovde gde jesam danas.
16:51
SW: I hate to lose, but I think
losing has brought me here today.
losing has brought me here today.
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16:54
The only reason I am who I am
is because of my losses,
is because of my losses,
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Jedini razlog što sam ovo što jesam
je zbog mojih poraza,
je zbog mojih poraza,
16:58
and some of them are extremely painful,
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i neki od njih su veoma bolni,
ali ne bih uklonila nijedan od njih,
ali ne bih uklonila nijedan od njih,
17:00
but I wouldn't take any of them away,
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17:03
because every time I lose,
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zato što svaki put kad izgubim,
17:05
it takes a really long time
for me to lose again
for me to lose again
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treba dosta vremena da prođe
da ponovo izgubim
da ponovo izgubim
17:07
because I learn so much from it.
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zato što mnogo naučim iz toga.
17:09
And I encourage everyone that I talk to --
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Ohrabrim svakog sa kim pričam.
Kažem im: Slušaj, ako izgubiš ili ako se
desi tako nešto,
desi tako nešto,
17:12
I'm like, listen, if you lose
or if something happens --
or if something happens --
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17:14
not in sports --
in business or in school --
in business or in school --
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ne u sportu - u poslu ili u školi -
nauči nešto iz toga.
nauči nešto iz toga.
17:17
learn from it.
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Ne živi u prošlosti, živi u sadašnjosti,
i ne pravi iste greške u budućnosti.
i ne pravi iste greške u budućnosti.
17:19
Don't live in the past,
live in the present,
live in the present,
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17:21
and don't make the same
mistakes in the future.
mistakes in the future.
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To je ono po čemu se ja trudim da živim.
17:23
That's something
that I always try to live by.
that I always try to live by.
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GK: Znam da planiraš venčanje
i želim da znam,
i želim da znam,
17:26
GK: Now you're planning a wedding
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17:27
and I want to know,
is it a destination wedding
is it a destination wedding
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da li je to venčanje na nekoj destinaciji
Ketskils ili Pokonos,
Ketskils ili Pokonos,
17:29
in the Catskills or Poconos
or are you going to do it in Florida?
or are you going to do it in Florida?
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ili ćeš to uraditi na Floridi?
17:33
What are you thinking?
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O čemu razmišljaš? Veliko ili malo?
17:35
Big or small?
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SV: Želimo da bude srednje.
Ne želimo da bude previše veliko,
Ne želimo da bude previše veliko,
17:37
SW: We're thinking medium size.
We don't want to do too big,
We don't want to do too big,
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ali onda razmišljamo: Ne možemo
da kažemo „ne“ ovoj osobi, i ovoj osobi.
da kažemo „ne“ ovoj osobi, i ovoj osobi.
17:39
but then we're like, OK, we can't
say no to this person, this person.
say no to this person, this person.
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17:43
So we're thinking medium size
and we're just thinking --
and we're just thinking --
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Tako da mislimo srednje,
i jednostavno mislimo -
i jednostavno mislimo -
Ja volim da se zabavaljam.
Nadam se da to možete da vidite danas.
Nadam se da to možete da vidite danas.
17:45
My personality is a lot of fun.
Hopefully you can see that today.
Hopefully you can see that today.
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Nisam previše ozbiljna.
17:49
I'm not too serious.
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17:50
GK: And you like to dance.
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GK: I voliš da plešeš.
17:52
And the next chapter
for Serena Williams is what?
for Serena Williams is what?
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Sledeće poglavlje
za Serenu Vilijams je šta?
za Serenu Vilijams je šta?
17:55
SW: Oh, next for me.
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SV: Ah, sledeće za mene.
17:57
Obviously I'm going to have a baby
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Očigledno ću roditi bebu,
i održavaću formu,
i vratiti se i igrati tenis,
i vratiti se i igrati tenis,
17:59
and I'm going to stay fit
and kind of come back and play tennis
and kind of come back and play tennis
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i raditi na mojoj modnoj liniji.
To bi bilo zabavno.
To bi bilo zabavno.
18:02
and keep working on my fashion line.
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18:04
That'll be really fun.
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GK: Da li znaš
da li je dečak ili devojčica?
da li je dečak ili devojčica?
18:05
GK: Do you know if it's a boy or girl?
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SV: Ne znam. Imam osećaj
i za jedno i za drugo.
i za jedno i za drugo.
18:07
SW: I don't. I have a feeling
of one or the other.
of one or the other.
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18:10
It's a 50-50 chance, but I have a feeling.
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50-50 su šanse, ali imam osećaj.
GK: Gejl je uniseks ime.
18:13
GK: Gayle is a unisex name.
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Štagod ti i Aleksis odlučite,
navijamo za vas!
navijamo za vas!
18:14
Whatever you and Alexis decide,
we are cheering you on!
we are cheering you on!
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SV: Hvala na tome.
18:17
SW: Thank you for that.
GK: You're welcome.
GK: You're welcome.
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GK: Nema na čemu.
Navijamo za tebe, Serena Vilijams.
Navijamo za tebe, Serena Vilijams.
18:19
We are cheering you on, Serena Williams.
SW: Thank you so much.
SW: Thank you so much.
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SV: Hvala puno.
Hvala vam, ljudi.
Hvala vam, ljudi.
18:22
Thank you guys.
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18:23
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Serena Williams - AthleteWith her legendary spirit and unstoppable serve, tennis legend Serena Williams has become one of the world’s most enduring athletic superstars.
Why you should listen
Serena Williams sits at the top of the tennis world; she's won 23 career Grand Slams, which is the most Grand Slam singles titles in history, with her most recent win at the 2017 Australian Open. In some analysts' eyes, she's quite simply the greatest athlete of all time.
But Williams has extended her influence far beyond the tennis court. Through her activism, high-profile endorsements, TV and film appearances and writing (including a guide to life written with her sister, Venus), Williams inspires millions of fans worldwide.
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Gayle King - Journalist
Gayle King is a co-host of "CBS This Morning” and Editor-at-Large of the award-winning O, the Oprah Magazine.
Why you should listen
An award-winning journalist who has worked across television, radio and print, Gayle King is a co-host of CBS This Morning and Editor-at-Large of O, the Oprah Magazine.
King previously hosted The Gayle King Show, a live, weekday television interview program on OWN: The Oprah Winfrey Network. The program, which featured a discussion of a broad variety of topics that include politics, cultural developments, was also broadcast on XM Satellite Radio, where it premiered in 2006.
Before moving into print and radio, King worked for 18 years (1982–2000) as a television news anchor for CBS affiliate WFSB-TV in Hartford, Conn., during which period, she also hosted her own syndicated daytime program. Prior to joining WFSB, King worked at several other television stations, including WDAF-TV in Kansas City, Mo. (1978-1981), WJZ-TV in Baltimore, Md. (1976), and WTOP-TV in Washington, D.C. (1975).
King has received numerous awards for her extensive work as a journalist. In addition to three Emmys, she was honored in 2008 with the American Women in Radio & Television Gracie Award for Outstanding Radio Talk Show and in 2010 with both the Individual Achievement Award for Host-Entertainment/Information and the New York Women in Communications' Matrix Award.
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