ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Charles Hazlewood - Conductor
Charles Hazlewood dusts off and invigorates classical music, adding a youthful energy and modern twists to centuries-old masterworks. At TEDGlobal, he conducts the Scottish Ensemble.

Why you should listen

Charles Hazlewood's fresh presentations of classical music shake up the traditional settings of the form -- in one performance he’ll engage in a conversation with the audience, while in another he’ll blend film or sculpture into a piece -- but his goal is always the same: exposing the deep, always-modern joy of the classics. He's a familiar face on British TV, notably in the 2009 series The Birth of British Music on BBC2. He conducts the BBC Orchestras and guest-conducts orchestras around the world.

Together with Mark Dornford-May, he founded a lyric-theatre company in South Africa called Dimpho Di Kopane (which means "combined talents") after auditioning in the townships and villages of South Africa. Of the 40 members, only three had professional training. They debuted with Bizet's Carmen, which was later transposed into a movie version called U-Carmen eKhayelitsha, spoken and sung in Xhosa, that was honored at the Berlin Flim Festival. He regularly involves children in his projects and curates his own music festival, Play the Field, on his farm in Somerset. His latest project: the ParaOrchestra.

He says: "I have loads of issues with the way classical music is presented. It has been too reverential, too 'high art' -- if you're not in the club, they're not going to let you join. It's like The Turin Shroud: don't touch it because it might fall apart."

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TEDGlobal 2011

Charles Hazlewood: Trusting the ensemble

查爾斯·海澤伍德:信任我的合奏團

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指揮家查爾斯·海澤伍德談信任在音樂領導裡扮演的角色─他在台上以實際指揮蘇格蘭合奏團來示範如何運用。同時他也分享兩段音樂計畫:歌劇「卡雅利沙的卡門」,以及「超越交響樂團」。
- Conductor
Charles Hazlewood dusts off and invigorates classical music, adding a youthful energy and modern twists to centuries-old masterworks. At TEDGlobal, he conducts the Scottish Ensemble. Full bio

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I am a conductor導體,
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我是一位指揮
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and I'm here today今天
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我今天要在這裡
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to talk to you about trust相信.
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跟大家談談何為信任
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My job工作 depends依靠 upon it.
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我的工作全靠它
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There has to be, between之間 me and the orchestra樂隊,
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在我與我的樂團間
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an unshakable不可動搖 bond of trust相信,
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存在著不可動搖的信任
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born天生 out of mutual相互 respect尊重,
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這信任源自於互相尊重
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through通過 which哪一個 we can spin a musical音樂 narrative敘述
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透過它我們可以詮釋出一段
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that we all believe in.
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彼此都信服的音樂
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Now in the old days, conducting開展, music音樂 making製造,
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以往無論是指揮、製作音樂
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was less about trust相信 and more, frankly坦率地說, about coercion強迫.
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很少談到信任,說實話以高壓居多
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Up to and around about the Second第二 World世界 War戰爭,
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直到大約二次世界大戰
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conductors導體 were invariably不變地 dictators獨裁者 --
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指揮家都是獨裁者
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these tyrannical強橫 figures人物
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這些霸王
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who would rehearse排練, not just the orchestra樂隊 as a whole整個, but individuals個人 within it,
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不只要排練整個樂團,還要干預每一個成員的生活
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within an inch英寸 of their lives生活.
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到鉅細靡遺的地步
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But I'm happy快樂 to say now that the world世界 has moved移動 on,
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但是我很高興地說這世界在進步
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music音樂 has moved移動 on with it.
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音樂界也跟著進步
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We now have a more democratic民主的 view視圖 and way of making製造 music音樂 --
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現在我們用更民主的觀點及方式來製作音樂─
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a two-way雙向 street.
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溝通是雙向的
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I, as the conductor導體, have to come to the rehearsal排演 with a cast-iron鑄鐵 sense
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我身為指揮,在排練時,必須對曲目的整體架構
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of the outer architecture建築 of that music音樂,
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抱著堅不可摧的信念
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within which哪一個 there is then immense巨大 personal個人 freedom自由
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但在其中又要讓樂手能自由地發揮
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for the members會員 of the orchestra樂隊 to shine閃耀.
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讓他們在表演中綻放光芒
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For myself, of course課程,
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當然,對我而言
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I have to completely全然 trust相信 my body身體 language語言.
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我一定要完全相信我的肢體語言
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That's all I have at the point of sale拍賣.
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那是我唯一的賣點
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It's silent無聲 gesture手勢.
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它是無聲的手勢
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I can hardly幾乎不 bark out instructions說明 while we're playing播放.
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我總不能在演奏中對著我的團員吼叫指令
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(Music音樂)
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(音樂)
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Ladies女士們 and gentlemen紳士, the Scottish蘇格蘭的 Ensemble合奏.
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各位嘉賓,蘇格蘭合奏團
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(Applause掌聲)
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(掌聲)
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So in order訂購 for all this to work,
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所以為了讓以上的表演成功
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obviously明顯 I have got to be in a position位置 of trust相信.
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很明顯我一定要站在信賴的立場
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I have to trust相信 the orchestra樂隊,
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我必須相信我的樂團
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and, even more crucially關鍵, I have to trust相信 myself.
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更關鍵的是,我必須相信我自己
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Think about it: when you're in a position位置 of not trusting信任的,
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想想看,如果你站在不信任的立場
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what do you do?
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你會怎麼做?
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You overcompensate過度補償.
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你矯枉過正
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And in my game遊戲, that means手段 you overgesticulateovergesticulate.
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在我指揮這一邊,這表示你會做過多的手勢
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You end結束 up like some kind of rabid瘋狂的 windmill風車.
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結果你看起來像一座轉的很快的風車
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And the bigger your gesture手勢 gets得到,
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你的手勢愈大
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the more ill-defined不明確, blurry模糊
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就愈不明確,愈模糊
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and, frankly坦率地說, useless無用 it is to the orchestra樂隊.
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說實話這對樂團毫無益處
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You become成為 a figure數字 of fun開玩笑. There's no trust相信 anymore, only ridicule嘲笑.
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你變成笑柄,就別談信賴了,只剩下滑稽
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And I remember記得 at the beginning開始 of my career事業,
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我還記得在我剛出道時
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again and again, on these dismal慘淡 outings郊遊 with orchestras樂團,
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一次又一次的,在那些慘不忍睹的樂團公演中
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I would be going completely全然 insane on the podium講台,
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我站在指揮台上,完全像個瘋子
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trying to engender產生 a small scale規模 crescendo漸強 really,
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想來一段小小的漸強
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just a little upsurge高漲 in volume.
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卻只得到增大一點點的音量
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Bugger開溜 me, they wouldn't不會 give it to me.
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氣死人,他們就是表現不出來
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I spent花費 a lot of time in those early years年份
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在那些青澀的年月裡
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weeping silently默默 in dressing敷料 rooms客房.
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我經常在後台更衣室暗自飲泣
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And how futile無用 seemed似乎 the words of advice忠告 to me
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更別說我完全聽不懂
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from great British英國的 veteran老將 conductor導體 Sir先生 Colin科林 Davis戴維斯
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偉大的英國資深指揮家柯林‧戴維斯爵士的建言
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who said, "Conducting開展, Charles查爾斯,
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他說,「指揮啊,查爾斯,
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is like holding保持 a small bird in your hand.
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就像在你手中抓一隻小鳥,
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If you hold保持 it too tightly緊緊, you crush粉碎 it.
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你抓得太緊,就把牠壓碎了;
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If you hold保持 it too loosely鬆弛地, it flies蒼蠅 away."
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你抓得太鬆,牠就飛走了。」
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I have to say, in those days, I couldn't不能 really even find the bird.
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我必須承認,那些日子,我甚至不知道那隻小鳥在哪
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Now a fundamental基本的
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現在就音樂經歷而言
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and really viscerally發自內心 important重要 experience經驗 for me, in terms條款 of music音樂,
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我有一段既基本又真誠又重要的經驗
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has been my adventures冒險 in South Africa非洲,
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來自我在南非的冒險
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the most dizzyingly令人眼花繚亂 musical音樂 country國家 on the planet行星 in my view視圖,
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我認為南非是世上最令人目眩神迷的音樂國家
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but a country國家 which哪一個, through通過 its musical音樂 culture文化,
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但也就是這個國家,透過它的音樂文化
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has taught me one fundamental基本的 lesson:
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教了我一個根本的功課
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that through通過 music音樂 making製造
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就是透過音樂製作
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can come deep levels水平
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能讓最基本
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of fundamental基本的 life-giving起死回生 trust相信.
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又激發生命力的信任關係進入更深的層次
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Back in 2000, I had the opportunity機會 to go to South Africa非洲
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回溯到西元2000年,一個機緣我到了南非
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to form形成 a new opera歌劇 company公司.
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去組一個新的歌劇團
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So I went out there, and I auditioned試鏡,
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我到了那裏,並且舉辦甄選
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mainly主要 in rural鄉村 township locations地點, right around the country國家.
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主要是在一些農村小鎮,鄉下地方
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I heard聽說 about 2,000 singers歌手
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我聽了大約二千位歌手唱歌
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and pulled together一起 a company公司
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然後從中選了四十位
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of 40 of the most jaw-droppingly令人droppingly amazing驚人 young年輕 performers表演者,
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令人瞠目結舌的年輕表演者組了一個劇團
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the majority多數 of whom were black黑色,
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絕大部分的團員是黑人
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but there were a handful少數 of white白色 performers表演者.
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但是也有少數是白人
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Now it emerged出現 early on in the first rehearsal排演 period
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有個問題在第一次排練時浮上檯面
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that one of those white白色 performers表演者
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就是其中一位白人
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had, in his previous以前 incarnation化身,
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他之前的身分
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been a member會員 of the South African非洲人 police警察 force.
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是南非警察的一分子
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And in the last years年份 of the old regime政權,
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在種族隔離政策結束前幾年
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he would routinely常規 be detailed詳細 to go into the township
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他很可能是那個接受詳盡的指令
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to aggress發球搶攻 the community社區.
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定期到鄉間攻擊黑人社群的一員
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Now you can imagine想像 what this knowledge知識 did to the temperature溫度 in the room房間,
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想像一下這樣的認知對排演場的影響
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the general一般 atmosphere大氣層.
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整體氣氛就怪怪的
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Let's be under no illusions幻想.
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讓我們面對現實吧
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In South Africa非洲, the relationship關係 most devoid沒有 of trust相信
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在南非,最不能彼此信賴的兩種人
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is that between之間 a white白色 policeman警察
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就是白人警察
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and the black黑色 community社區.
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與黑人族群
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So how do we recover恢復 from that, ladies女士們 and gentlemen紳士?
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所以我們要如何彌補傷痕,各位?
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Simply只是 through通過 singing唱歌.
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很簡單,就是唱歌
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We sang, we sang,
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我們唱呀,唱呀
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we sang,
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唱呀
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and amazingly令人驚訝 new trust相信 grew成長,
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不可思議地唱出了新的信賴
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and indeed確實 friendship友誼 blossomed開花.
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也唱出了友誼
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And that showed顯示 me such這樣 a fundamental基本的 truth真相,
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這顯示了一件再基本不過的事實
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that music音樂 making製造 and other forms形式 of creativity創造力
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就是透過製作音樂或是其他種類的創造力
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can so often經常 go to places地方
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常常可以做到
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where mere words cannot不能.
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語言做不了的事
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So we got some shows節目 off the ground地面. We started開始 touring旅遊 them internationally國際.
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所以我們開始公演一些劇碼,也開始國際巡迴演出
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One of them was "Carmen卡門."
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其中一齣是卡門
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We then thought we'd星期三 make a movie電影 of "Carmen卡門,"
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我們後來覺得應該把這部卡門拍成電影
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which哪一個 we recorded記錄 and shot射擊 outside on location位置
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我們就在開普敦郊區
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in the township outside Cape Town called Khayelitsha卡雅利沙.
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叫做卡雅利沙的地方錄音及開鏡
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The piece was sung entirely完全 in Xhosa科薩,
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這部電影全以科薩語唱
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which哪一個 is a beautifully精美 musical音樂 language語言, if you don't know it.
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科薩語非常具音樂性,如果你們不知道的話
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It's called "U-CarmenU型卡門 e-KhayelitshaE-卡雅利沙" --
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這部電影名為「卡雅利莎的卡門」
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literally按照字面 "Carmen卡門 of Khayelitsha卡雅利沙."
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意思就是「從卡雅利莎來的卡門」
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I want to play you a tiny clip of it now
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現在讓我播一小段影片
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for no other reason原因 than to give you proof證明 positive
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不為別的,只為了證明
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that there is nothing tiny about South African非洲人 music音樂 making製造.
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不能小看南非的音樂製作
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(Music音樂)
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(Applause掌聲)
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Something which哪一個 I find utterly完全 enchanting妖嬈
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有一件關於南非的音樂製作的事
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about South African非洲人 music音樂 making製造
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讓我非常著迷
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is that it's so free自由.
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就是,它非常自由
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South Africans非洲人 just make music音樂 really freely自如.
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南非人作音樂就是很自由
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And I think, in no small way,
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而我認為,不是隨便想想而已
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that's due應有 to one fundamental基本的 fact事實:
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這是基於一個根本的事實
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they're not bound to a system系統 of notation符號.
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就是他們不被音樂標記法束縛
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They don't read music音樂.
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他們不看樂譜
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They trust相信 their ears耳朵.
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他們相信自己的音感
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You can teach a bunch of South Africans非洲人 a tune調 in about five seconds flat平面.
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你可以用五秒鐘教一群南非人唱一段曲調
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And then, as if by magic魔法,
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然後,好像變魔術般
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they will spontaneously自發 improvise湊合 a load加載 of harmony和諧 around that tune調
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他們會很自然的即興唱出合聲
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because they can.
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因為他們就是可以
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Now those of us that live生活 in the West西, if I can use that term術語,
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而我們這些西方人,如果我可以用這個詞
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I think have a much more hidebound衰竭的 attitude態度 or sense of music音樂 --
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對音樂有著非常迂腐的觀念,或者說定義
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that somehow不知何故 it's all about skill技能 and systems系統.
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我們以爲,音樂就是技巧與系統
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Therefore因此 it's the exclusive獨家 preserve保留
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所以這是保留給
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of an elite原種, talented天才 body身體.
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菁英份子,有天分的人的
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And yet然而, ladies女士們 and gentlemen紳士, every一切 single one of us on this planet行星
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但是各位,在地球上的每一個人
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probably大概 engages嚙合 with music音樂 on a daily日常 basis基礎.
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每天都或多或少會跟音樂扯上關係
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And if I can broaden擴大 this out for a second第二,
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容我放寬角度多說一些
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I'm willing願意 to bet賭注 that every一切 single one of you sitting坐在 in this room房間
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我可以打賭,就是在座的每一位
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would be happy快樂 to speak說話 with acuity敏銳, with total confidence置信度,
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都可以興高采烈地高談闊論
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about movies電影, probably大概 about literature文學.
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電影,甚或是文學
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But how many許多 of you would be able能夠 to make a confident信心 assertion斷言
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但是有多少人可以很有信心的評論
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about a piece of classical古典 music音樂?
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一首古典音樂呢?
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Why is this?
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為什麼會這樣?
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And what I'm going to say to you now
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我想要說的是
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is I'm just urging you to get over
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this supreme最高 lack缺乏 of self-confidence自信心,
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這種超級沒自信的感覺
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to take the plunge跳水, to believe that you can trust相信 your ears耳朵,
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就讓我們大膽嘗試一下,相信你可以信任你的音感
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you can hear some of the fundamental基本的 muscle肌肉 tissue組織,
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聽到音樂的成分,就像看到基本的肌肉組織
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fiber纖維, DNA脫氧核糖核酸,
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纖維,DNA
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what makes品牌 a great piece of music音樂 great.
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那些偉大的音樂之所以偉大的地方
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I've got a little experiment實驗 I want to try with you.
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我想跟你們做一段小小的實驗
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Did you know
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你們可知
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that TEDTED is a tune調?
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TED 是一段旋律?
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A very simple簡單 tune調 based基於 on three notes筆記 -- T, E, D.
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一段由T、E、D三個音組成,非常簡單的曲調
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Now hang on a minute分鐘.
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等一等
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I know you're going to say to me, "T doesn't exist存在 in music音樂."
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我知道你要說「沒有 T 這個音」
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Well ladies女士們 and gentlemen紳士, there's a time-honored老字號 system系統,
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是的,各位來賓,有個歷史悠久的系統
09:01
which哪一個 composers作曲家 have been using運用 for hundreds數以百計 of years年份,
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作曲家已經用了好幾百年
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which哪一個 proves證明 actually其實 that it does.
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可以證明「T」的確存在
09:06
If I sing you a musical音樂 scale規模: A, B, C, D, E, F, G --
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如果你唱一段音階 A(La) B(Si) C(Do) D(Re) E(Mi) F(Fa) G(Sol) (唱名)
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and I just carry攜帶 on with the next下一個 set of letters in the alphabet字母, same相同 scale規模:
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然後我把下一組的英文字母比照上述音階排列
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H, I, J, K, L, M, N,
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H(La) I(Si) J(Do) K(Re) L(Mi) M(Fa) N(Sol)
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O, P, Q, R, S, T -- there you go.
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O(La) P(Si) Q(Do) R(Re) S(Mi) T(Fa)─你看
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T, see it's the same相同 as F in music音樂.
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T 可以視為 F
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So T is F.
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所以 T 就是 F(Fa)
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So T, E, D is the same相同 as F, E, D.
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所以TED可以視為F(Fa)E(Mi)D(Re)
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Now that piece of music音樂 that we played發揮 at the start開始 of this session會議
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我們在開場的時候演奏的那段音樂
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had enshrined供奉 in its heart
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就是從這個主題 TED
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the theme主題, which哪一個 is TEDTED.
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變奏而來
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Have a listen.
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仔細聽
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(Music音樂)
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(音樂)
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Do you hear it?
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聽到了嗎?
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Or do I smell some doubt懷疑 in the room房間?
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還是我聞到了一點懷疑的味道?
09:45
Okay, we'll play it for you again now,
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好吧,為了你們我們再演奏一次
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and we're going to highlight突出, we're going to poke out the T, E, D.
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這次我們要強調,我們會把 T(Fa) E(Mi) D(Re)明顯彈出來
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If you'll你會 pardon赦免 the expression表達.
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容我們表演一下
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(Music音樂)
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Oh my goodness善良 me, there it was loud and clear明確, surely一定.
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喔我的天,真是響亮
10:03
I think we should make this even more explicit明確的.
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我認為應該讓它更明顯一點
10:04
Ladies女士們 and gentlemen紳士, it's nearly幾乎 time for tea.
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各位,差不多是午茶時間了
10:06
Would you reckon估計 you need to sing for your tea, I think?
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你是不是覺得該唱首歌助興,對吧?
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I think we need to sing for our tea.
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我想我們是該唱首歌來配茶
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We're going to sing those three wonderful精彩 notes筆記: T, E, D.
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我們來唱這三個音吧:T(Fa) E(Mi) D(Re)
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Will you have a go for me?
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開始
10:15
Audience聽眾: T, E, D.
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觀眾:T(Fa) E(Mi) D(Re)
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Charles查爾斯 Hazlewood黑茲爾伍德: Yeah, you sound聲音 a bit more like cows奶牛 really than human人的 beings眾生.
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查:唉呀!聽起來比像牛在唱歌,不像人
10:20
Shall we try that one again?
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再唱一次
10:22
And look, if you're adventurous愛冒險的, you go up the octave八度.
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如果你夠大膽你可以高八度唱
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T, E, D.
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T(Fa) E(Mi) D(Re)
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Audience聽眾: T, E, D.
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觀眾:T(Fa) E(Mi) D(Re)
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CHCH: Once一旦 more with vimVIM. (Audience聽眾: T, E, D.)
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查:再有精神一點。觀眾:T(Fa) E(Mi) D(Re)
10:31
There I am like a bloody血腥 windmill風車 again, you see.
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你看看,我又像那個可怕的風車了
10:33
Now we're going to put that in the context上下文 of the music音樂.
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現在我們把這三個音混在音樂裡
10:36
The music音樂 will start開始, and then at a signal信號 from me, you will sing that.
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音樂先開始,等我的手勢,你們就開始唱
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(Music音樂)
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(音樂)
10:53
One more time,
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再來一次
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with feeling感覺, ladies女士們 and gentlemen紳士.
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有點感情吧,各位
10:57
You won't慣於 make the key otherwise除此以外.
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這樣唱不出個所以然的
11:00
Well doneDONE, ladies女士們 and gentlemen紳士.
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很好,各位先生女士
11:02
It wasn't a bad debut登場 for the TEDTED choir唱詩班,
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TED合唱團初次登場不算太糟
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not a bad debut登場 at all.
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一點都不糟
11:08
Now there's a project項目 that I'm initiating啟動 at the moment時刻
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現在我要介紹一個目前由我主導的計畫
11:10
that I'm very excited興奮 about and wanted to share分享 with you,
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我對之非常興奮,也很想跟你們分享
11:12
because it is all about changing改變 perceptions看法,
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因為它跟改變看法有關
11:14
and, indeed確實, building建造 a new level水平 of trust相信.
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還能建立全新層次的信任
11:17
The youngest最年輕的 of my children孩子 was born天生 with cerebral顱內 palsy麻痺,
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我最小的孩子一出生就是腦性麻痺
11:20
which哪一個 as you can imagine想像,
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你可以想像一下
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if you don't have an experience經驗 of it yourself你自己,
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如果你對這種病一無所知
11:24
is quite相當 a big thing to take on board.
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一開始這情況會有多棘手
11:26
But the gift禮品 that my gorgeous華麗 daughter女兒 has given特定 me,
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但是我那美麗的女兒給我的禮物
11:29
aside在旁邊 from her very existence存在,
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除了她的存在以外
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is that it's opened打開 my eyes眼睛 to a whole整個 stretch伸展 of the community社區
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還讓我開了眼界,看到了一整個
11:34
that was hitherto迄今 hidden,
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原本是隱藏起來的
11:36
the community社區 of disabled people.
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身心障礙這個族群
11:38
And I found發現 myself looking at the Paralympics殘奧會 and thinking思維 how incredible難以置信
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我發現,當我觀看傷殘奧運時,覺得這真是不可思議
11:41
how technology's技術的 been harnessed駕馭 to prove證明 beyond doubt懷疑
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科技已經被用到一種地步,可以來證明
11:44
that disability失能 is no barrier屏障
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無庸置疑地殘障這件事不能阻礙他們
11:46
to the highest最高 levels水平 of sporting運動的 achievement成就.
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達到運動成就的最高境界
11:48
Of course課程 there's a grimmer嚴峻 side to that truth真相,
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當然這件事也有殘酷無情的一面
11:50
which哪一個 is that it's actually其實 taken採取 decades幾十年 for the world世界 at large
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就是這個世界花了幾十年的時間
11:53
to come to a position位置 of trust相信,
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才學會站在信任的立場
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to really believe that disability失能 and sports體育 can go together一起
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去真正相信殘障與運動可以用一種
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in a convincing使人信服 and interesting有趣 fashion時尚.
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既具說服力又很有趣的方式連在一起
12:02
So I find myself asking:
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所以我問我自己
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where is music音樂 in all of this?
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在這些人中有沒有會音樂的?
12:06
You can't tell me that there aren't millions百萬 of disabled people,
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你總不能說在成千上萬的殘障朋友裡
12:08
in the U.K. alone單獨,
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就說英國就好
12:10
with massive大規模的 musical音樂 potential潛在.
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找不到非常有音樂潛力的人
12:13
So I decided決定 to create創建 a platform平台 for that potential潛在.
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所以我決定給這樣的人創造一個平台
12:16
It's going to be Britain's英國的 first ever
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這將是英國有史以來第一個
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national國民 disabled orchestra樂隊.
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國家級的身心障礙者交響樂團
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It's called ParaorchestraParaorchestra.
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我稱它為「超越交響樂團」
12:22
I'm going to show顯示 you a clip now
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我要播一段影片
12:24
of the very first improvisation即興 session會議 that we had.
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是我們第一次的即興練習
12:26
It was a really extraordinary非凡 moment時刻.
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那真是非常不平凡的一刻
12:28
Just me and four astonishingly令人驚訝 gifted天才 disabled musicians音樂家.
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只有我和四位有著驚人才能的殘障音樂家
12:31
Normally一般 when you improvise湊合 --
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正常情況下當你即興表演─
12:34
and I do it all the time around the world世界 --
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我在世界巡演中經常這麼作─
12:36
there's this initial初始 period of horror恐怖,
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開始總有段時間會覺得很恐怖
12:38
like everyone's大家的 too frightened受驚 to throw the hat帽子 into the ring,
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就像玩套圈圈時因為太害怕所以不敢丟出那個圈
12:40
an awful可怕 pregnant silence安靜.
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一種可怕又深長的安靜
12:42
Then suddenly突然, as if by magic魔法, bang! We're all in there
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然後突然間,像魔術一樣,變!我們都出手了
12:44
and it's complete完成 bedlam瘋人院. You can't hear anything.
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簡直就是個瘋人院,你甚麼都聽不出來
12:46
No one's那些 listening. No one's那些 trusting信任的.
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沒有聆聽,沒有信任
12:48
No one's那些 responding響應 to each other.
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彼此之間一點互動都沒有
12:51
Now in this room房間 with these four disabled musicians音樂家,
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但現在在排練室裡,我與這四位殘障音樂家
12:53
within five minutes分鐘
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在五分鐘內
12:55
a rapt全神貫注 listening, a rapt全神貫注 response響應
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我們全神貫注地聆聽,全神貫注地互動
12:57
and some really insanely瘋狂地 beautiful美麗 music音樂.
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演奏出瘋狂美麗的音樂
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(Video視頻) (Music音樂)
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(影片)(音樂)
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Nicholas尼古拉斯:: My name's名字的 Nicholas尼古拉斯 McCarthy麥卡錫.
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尼可拉斯:我叫尼可拉斯‧麥卡錫
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I'm 22, and I'm a left-handed左撇子 pianist鋼琴家.
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我22歲,是個左手鋼琴家
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And I was born天生 without my left hand -- right hand.
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我一出生就沒有左手─右手
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Can I do that one again?
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我可以再錄一次嗎?
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(Music音樂)
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(音樂)
13:27
Lyn林恩: When I'm making製造 music音樂,
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玲:當我製作音樂時
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I feel like a pilot飛行員 in the cockpit座艙 flying飛行 an airplane飛機.
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我覺得自己像個在開飛機的機長
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I become成為 alive.
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我活過來了
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(Music音樂)
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Clarence克拉倫斯: I would rather be able能夠 to play an instrument儀器 again
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克來倫斯:我寧願選擇能夠再彈樂器
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than walk步行.
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也不要能再走路
13:50
There's so much joy喜悅 and things
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我在彈奏樂器及表演時
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I could get from playing播放 an instrument儀器 and performing執行.
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非常喜悅又收穫很多
13:56
It's removed去除 some of my paralysis麻痺.
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好像我的癱瘓症狀減輕了
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(Music音樂)
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(Applause掌聲)
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CHCH: I only wish希望 that some of those musicians音樂家 were here with us today今天,
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查:我真希望那些音樂家現在就在這裡
14:25
so you could see at firsthand第一手 how utterly完全 extraordinary非凡 they are.
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你就能親眼看到他們多麼絕頂出色
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ParaorchestraParaorchestra is the name名稱 of that project項目.
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「超越交響樂團」是這個計畫的名字
14:30
If any of you thinks you want to help me in any way
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如果你有感動想幫助我
14:32
to achieve實現 what is a fairly相當 impossible不可能 and implausible難以置信 dream夢想 still at this point,
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來完成至今仍不可能不可行的夢想
14:35
please let me know.
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請讓我知道
14:37
Now my parting離別 shot射擊
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現在我的臨別之作
14:39
comes courtesy禮貌 of the great Joseph約瑟夫 Haydn海頓,
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要拜偉大的海頓之賜
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wonderful精彩 Austrian composer作曲家 in the second第二 half of the 18th century世紀 --
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他是18世紀後半優秀的奧地利作曲家
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spent花費 the bulk of his life
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他的大半生
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in the employ採用 of Prince王子 Nikolaus尼古拉斯 Esterhazy艾什泰哈齊, along沿 with his orchestra樂隊.
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都在尼古勞斯親王之下擔任樂團樂長
14:49
Now this prince王子 loved喜愛 his music音樂,
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這位親王喜愛海頓的音樂
14:52
but he also loved喜愛 the country國家 castle城堡 that he tended往往 to reside居住 in most of the time,
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但他也愛他的鄉間城堡,大部分時間他都駐留在那裡
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which哪一個 is just on the Austro-Hungarian奧匈帝國 border邊境,
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這個城堡位於奧匈邊境
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a place地點 called Esterhazy艾什泰哈齊 --
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叫艾斯特哈基的地方─
14:59
a long way from the big city of Vienna維也納.
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離大都市維也納有一段很遠的距離
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Now one day in 1772,
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西元1772年某一天
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the prince王子 decreed下旨 that the musicians'音樂家 families家庭,
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這位親王下旨要樂手的家人
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the orchestral管弦樂的 musicians'音樂家 families家庭,
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他旗下樂團的樂手家人
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were no longer welcome歡迎 in the castle城堡.
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離開他的城堡
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They weren't allowed允許 to stay there anymore; they had to be returned to Vienna維也納 --
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他們不能再住在那裡;他們必須回到維也納
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as I say, an unfeasiblyunfeasibly long way away in those days.
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我剛剛說過,在那個年代這種距離超乎想像的遠
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You can imagine想像, the musicians音樂家 were disconsolate.
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可想而知這些樂手有多憂鬱
15:19
Haydn海頓 remonstrated抗議 with the prince王子, but to no avail.
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海頓向親王抗議無效
15:22
So given特定 the prince王子 loved喜愛 his music音樂,
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所以既然親王喜愛他的音樂
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Haydn海頓 thought he'd他會 write a symphony交響樂 to make the point.
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海頓就想,那就譜一首交響曲來表達不滿吧
15:27
And we're going to play just the very tail尾巴 end結束 of this symphony交響樂 now.
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我們將演奏這首交響曲的最末結尾部分
15:30
And you'll你會 see the orchestra樂隊 in a kind of sullen憂鬱 revolt反叛.
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你會看到這個樂團表現一種慍怒的反抗
15:33
I'm pleased滿意 to say, the prince王子 did take the tip小費
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我很高興地說,這位親王的確
15:35
from the orchestral管弦樂的 performance性能,
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從樂團的表演中收到了暗示
15:37
and the musicians音樂家 were reunited重聚 with their families家庭.
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而樂手也得以與家人團聚
15:39
But I think it sums總和 up my talk rather well, this,
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但我認為這也為我的演講下了美好的總結
15:42
that where there is trust相信,
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就是信任在哪
15:44
there is music音樂 -- by extension延期 life.
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音樂就在哪─推而廣之生命也在哪
15:47
Where there is no trust相信,
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如果沒有信任
15:49
the music音樂 quite相當 simply只是 withers威瑟斯 away.
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音樂也隨之消亡
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(Music音樂)
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Translated by Regina Chu
Reviewed by Wang-Ju Tsai

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Charles Hazlewood - Conductor
Charles Hazlewood dusts off and invigorates classical music, adding a youthful energy and modern twists to centuries-old masterworks. At TEDGlobal, he conducts the Scottish Ensemble.

Why you should listen

Charles Hazlewood's fresh presentations of classical music shake up the traditional settings of the form -- in one performance he’ll engage in a conversation with the audience, while in another he’ll blend film or sculpture into a piece -- but his goal is always the same: exposing the deep, always-modern joy of the classics. He's a familiar face on British TV, notably in the 2009 series The Birth of British Music on BBC2. He conducts the BBC Orchestras and guest-conducts orchestras around the world.

Together with Mark Dornford-May, he founded a lyric-theatre company in South Africa called Dimpho Di Kopane (which means "combined talents") after auditioning in the townships and villages of South Africa. Of the 40 members, only three had professional training. They debuted with Bizet's Carmen, which was later transposed into a movie version called U-Carmen eKhayelitsha, spoken and sung in Xhosa, that was honored at the Berlin Flim Festival. He regularly involves children in his projects and curates his own music festival, Play the Field, on his farm in Somerset. His latest project: the ParaOrchestra.

He says: "I have loads of issues with the way classical music is presented. It has been too reverential, too 'high art' -- if you're not in the club, they're not going to let you join. It's like The Turin Shroud: don't touch it because it might fall apart."

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Charles Hazlewood | Speaker | TED.com

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