ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Hetain Patel - Artist
In his compelling stage works, Hetain Patel uses powerful imagery and storytelling to examine questions of identity.

Why you should listen

"What determines our identities anyway?" asks Hetain Patel. As a child, Patel wanted to be like Spider-Man or Bruce Lee; later, he aimed to be more like his father, who displays a much different kind of bravery. From these ambitions, Patel's new show Be Like Water examines shifting identities of all kinds, using dance and bold imagery to power a story of self-examination and self-creation. 

As a conceptual artist, Patel has used photography, sculpture, installation and performance to challenge cultural identity. For his work, he has grown a mustache exactly like the one his father wore when he emigrated from India to the United Kingdom in the 1960s, and remixed the practice henna tattooing to incorporate English words and comics books. Patel's conclusion about identity: that it is an ever-shifting game of imitation. 

 

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Hetain Patel | Speaker | TED.com
Yuyu Rau - Dancer
Yuyu Rau's dance skills span a wide range, from ballet to contemporary to Chinese classical.

Why you should listen

Yuyu Rau is a dancer trained in ballet, contemporary and Chinese classical dance. Born in Taiwan and now a resident of the United Kingdom, Rau has performed with a wide range of dance companies and worked with choreographers like Wayne McGregor, Javier De Frutos, Luca Silvestrini and Douglas Thorpe.

Yau has toured with conceptual artist Hetain Patel, performing in his stage work Be Like Water. In the piece, Rau acts as Patel's translator, and often stands in to help him tell his story. 

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Yuyu Rau | Speaker | TED.com
TEDGlobal 2013

Hetain Patel: Who am I? Think again

赫頓.帕特爾 (Hetain Patel): 我是誰?再想想

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我們怎麼決定自己是誰?赫頓.帕特爾 (Hetain Patel) 結合身分、語言和口音的驚人演出──同時也挑戰你超越表象來思考。受到李小龍啟發,搭配藝術家饒宇玉 (Yuyu Rau) 共同演出,一段赫頓對自我省思的有趣呈現。
- Artist
In his compelling stage works, Hetain Patel uses powerful imagery and storytelling to examine questions of identity. Full bio - Dancer
Yuyu Rau's dance skills span a wide range, from ballet to contemporary to Chinese classical. Full bio

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HetainHetain Patel帕特爾: (In Chinese中文)
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赫頓:(中文)我們可以透過學習
不同的語言,來認識不同的文化嗎?
除了要學習口音和腔調以外,還有手勢。
宇玉:嗨,我是赫頓,我是藝術家。
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Yuyu玉宇 Rau: Hi你好, I'm HetainHetain. I'm an artist藝術家.
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And this is Yuyu玉宇,
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這位是宇玉,
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who is a dancer舞蹈家 I have been working加工 with.
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她是和我一起工作的舞者,
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I have asked her to translate翻譯 for me.
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我請她擔任我的翻譯。
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HP生命值: (In Chinese中文)
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赫頓:(中文)更重要的是,
手勢特有的習慣和動作。
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YRYR: If I may可能, I would like to tell you
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宇玉:如果可以的話,我想向你
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a little bit about myself
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簡單介紹我自己
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and my artwork藝術品.
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和我的藝術作品。
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HP生命值: (In Chinese中文)
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赫頓:(中文)我們可以透過學習
不同的語言,來認識不同的文化嗎?
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YRYR: I was born天生 and raised上調 near Manchester曼徹斯特,
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宇玉:我在英國的曼徹斯特
出生和成長,
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in England英國,
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but I'm not going to say it in English英語 to you,
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但是我不打算對你說英文,
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because I'm trying to avoid避免 any assumptions假設
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因為我想避免任何
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that might威力 be made製作 from my northern北方 accent口音.
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我的北方口音可能造成的誤解。
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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HP生命值: (In Chinese中文)
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赫頓:(中文)除了要學習口音
和腔調以外,還有手勢。
更重要的是,手勢特有的習慣和動作。
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YRYR: The only problem問題 with masking掩蔽 it
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宇玉:用中文來掩飾
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with Chinese中文 Mandarin普通話
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唯一會出現的問題是
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is I can only speak說話 this paragraph,
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我只能說這段話,
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which哪一個 I have learned學到了 by heart
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這是我用盡心力學習而成的,
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when I was visiting訪問 in China中國. (Laughter笑聲)
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在我造訪中國的期間。
(笑聲)
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So all I can do is keep repeating重複 it in different不同 tones
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因此,我能做的只有
用不同的聲調一再重覆,
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and hope希望 you won't慣於 notice注意.
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然後祈禱你們不會察覺。
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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HP生命值: (In Chinese中文)
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赫頓:(中文)更重要的是,
手勢特有的習慣和動作。
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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YRYR: Needless不必要 to say, I would like to apologize道歉
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宇玉:當然,我必須
向所有說中文的觀眾朋友致歉。
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to any Mandarin普通話 speakers音箱 in the audience聽眾.
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As a child兒童, I would hate討厭 being存在 made製作
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身為小孩,我討厭生來就必須
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to wear穿 the Indian印度人 kurta庫爾塔 pajama睡衣,
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穿著印度傳統長袍,
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because I didn't think it was very cool.
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因為我覺得那一點也不酷。
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It felt a bit girly少女的 to me, like a dress連衣裙,
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我覺得那很女孩子氣,就像洋裝,
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and it had this baggy鬆鬆垮垮 trouser褲子 part部分
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而且它有個像布袋的褲管,
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you had to tie領帶 really tight
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你得綁得非常緊,
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to avoid避免 the embarrassment困窘 of them falling落下 down.
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免得它掉下來很丟臉。
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My dad never wore穿著 it,
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我爸從來不穿那個,
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so I didn't see why I had to.
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所以我搞不懂為什麼我得穿。
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Also, it makes品牌 me feel a bit uncomfortable不舒服,
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還有,那個讓我不太舒服,
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that people assume承擔 I represent代表 something
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當我穿上它的時候,別人都覺得我代表了
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genuinely真正的 Indian印度人 when I wear穿 it,
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真正的印度人,
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because that's not how I feel.
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因為我根本不這麼覺得。
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HP生命值: (In Chinese中文)
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赫頓:(中文)我們可以透過學習
不同的語言,來認識不同的文化嗎?
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YRYR: Actually其實, the only way I feel comfortable自在
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宇玉:其實,要穿上它,
唯一讓我覺得舒服的方式,
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wearing穿著 it is by pretending假裝
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就是假裝
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they are the robes長袍 of a kung功夫 fu warrior戰士
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那是武功大師的長袍,
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like Li Mu Bai from that film電影,
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像是李慕白,就是那部電影
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"Crouching臥虎藏龍 Tiger, Hidden Dragon."
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《臥虎藏龍》。
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(Music音樂)
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(音樂)
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Okay.
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因此,
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So my artwork藝術品 is about identity身分 and language語言,
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我的藝術作品是關於身分和語言,
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challenging具有挑戰性的 common共同 assumptions假設
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挑戰常見的假設,
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based基於 on how we look like or where we come from,
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依據我們的外表、故鄉、
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gender性別, race種族, class.
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性別、種族、階級。
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What makes品牌 us who we are anyway無論如何?
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究竟是什麼讓我們成為我們呢?
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HP生命值: (In Chinese中文)
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赫頓:(中文)我們可以透過學習
不同的語言,來認識不同的文化嗎?
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YRYR: I used to read Spider-Man蜘蛛俠 comics漫畫,
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宇玉:我以前常看蜘蛛人漫畫,
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watch kung功夫 fu movies電影,
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功夫電影,
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take philosophy哲學 lessons教訓 from Bruce布魯斯 Lee背風處.
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從李小龍身上學哲學。
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He would say things like --
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他會說一些像是──
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HP生命值: Empty your mind心神.
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赫頓:保持空靈之心。
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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Be formless無形, shapeless無形的, like water.
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無形,無法,就像水一樣。
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Now you put water into a cup杯子.
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水倒入杯中,
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It becomes the cup杯子.
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就成了杯子的形狀;
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You put water into a bottle瓶子, it becomes the bottle瓶子.
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倒入瓶中,就成為瓶子的形狀;
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Put it in a teapot茶壺, it becomes the teapot茶壺.
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倒入茶壺中,就成為茶壺的形狀。
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Now, water can flow
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而水能載舟
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or it can crash緊急.
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亦能覆舟。
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Be water, my friend朋友. (Applause掌聲)
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像水一樣吧,我的朋友。
(掌聲)
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YRYR: This year, I am 32 years年份 old,
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饒宇玉:我今年 32 歲,
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the same相同 age年齡 Bruce布魯斯 Lee背風處 was when he died死亡.
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和李小龍過世的時候一樣大。
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I have been wondering想知道 recently最近,
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我最近常想:
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if he were alive today今天,
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如果他現在還活著,
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what advice忠告 he would give me
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對於我要在 TED 演說,
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about making製造 this TEDTED Talk.
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他會給我什麼建議?
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HP生命值: Don't imitate模擬 my voice語音.
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赫頓:不要模仿我的聲音,
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It offends冒犯 me.
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那會冒犯我。
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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YRYR: Good advice忠告,
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宇玉:好建議,
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but I still think that we learn學習 who we are
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但是我還是認為我們學著成為自己
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by copying仿形 others其他.
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是透過模仿他人。
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Who here hasn't有沒有 imitated模仿 their childhood童年 hero英雄
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在座有誰從未模仿小時候
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in the playground操場, or mum沉默 or father父親?
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在遊樂場裡崇拜的英雄,或是父母?
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I have.
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我有。
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HP生命值: A few少數 years年份 ago, in order訂購 to make this video視頻
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赫頓:幾年前,為了讓這部影片
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for my artwork藝術品, I shaved剃光 off all my hair頭髮
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成為我的藝術作品,我剃了光頭,
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so that I could grow增長 it back as my father父親 had it
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這樣一來,我可以讓它長回來,就像我爸爸
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when he first emigrated移民 from India印度
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剛從印度移民
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to the U.K. in the 1960s.
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到英國的模樣,在 1960 年代時。
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He had a side parting離別 and a neat整齊 mustache鬍子.
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他有分了邊的整齊鬍鬚。
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At first, it was going very well.
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剛開始還蠻順利的,
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I even started開始 to get discounts折扣 in Indian印度人 shops商店.
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我甚至可以在印度商店拿到折扣。
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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But then very quickly很快,
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但是沒過多久,
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I started開始 to underestimate低估
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我開始低估
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my mustache鬍子 growing生長 ability能力,
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鬍鬚生長的能力,
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and it got way too big.
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結果它變得太長了,
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It didn't look Indian印度人 anymore.
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看起來一點也不像印度人。
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Instead代替, people from across橫過 the road,
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相反的,人們會在對街
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they would shout things like --
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對著我喊──
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HP生命值 and YRYR: Arriba阿里巴! Arriba阿里巴! Ándalendale! Ándalendale!
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赫頓與宇玉:阿里巴!阿里巴!安德烈!安德烈!
(註:卡通《飛毛鼠》台詞)
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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HP生命值: Actually其實, I don't know why I am even talking like this.
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赫頓:其實,我不知道為什麼我會這樣說。
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My dad doesn't even have an Indian印度人 accent口音 anymore.
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我父親甚至一點印度口音也沒有,
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He talks會談 like this now.
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他講話聽起來像這樣…
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So it's not just my father父親 that I've imitated模仿.
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我不只模仿我父親。
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A few少數 years年份 ago I went to China中國 for a few少數 months個月,
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幾年前,我去中國住了幾個月,
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and I couldn't不能 speak說話 Chinese中文,
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我不會講中文,
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and this frustrated受挫 me,
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那讓我很挫折,
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so I wrote about this and had it translated翻譯
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所以我寫下這段話,
把它翻譯成中文,然後發自內心的學習,
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into Chinese中文, and then I learned學到了 this by heart,
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like music音樂, I guess猜測.
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大概就像音樂一樣。
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YRYR: This phrase短語 is now etched蝕刻 into my mind心神
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饒宇玉:現在這段話深深烙印在我心上,
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clearer更清晰 than the pin number to my bank銀行 card,
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比我提款卡的密碼還清楚,
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so I can pretend假裝 I speak說話 Chinese中文 fluently流利地.
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因此我可以假裝自己能夠流暢的說中文。
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When I had learned學到了 this phrase短語,
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當我學這段話的時候,
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I had an artist藝術家 over there hear me out
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有一位藝術家聽我說,
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to see how accurate準確 it sounded滿面.
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看看聽起來標不標準。
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I spoke the phrase短語, and then he laughed笑了
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我說了那段話,然後他大笑,
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and told me, "Oh yeah, that's great,
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然後跟我說:「噢,說得很好,」
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only it kind of sounds聲音 like a woman女人."
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「只是聽起來很像…女生。」
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I said, "What?"
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我說:「什麼?!」
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He said, "Yeah, you learned學到了 from a woman女人?"
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他說:「沒錯,你是從女生那學來的吧?」
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I said, "Yes. So?"
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我說:「對啊,所以?」
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He then explained解釋 the tonal調 differences分歧
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然後他開始向我解釋音調的差異,
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between之間 male and female voices聲音
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男性和女性之間
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are very different不同 and distinct不同, and that I had learned學到了 it very well,
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有很大的分別,我學得很好,
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but in a woman's女人的 voice語音.
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但是那是女性的發音。
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(Laughter笑聲)
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(笑聲)
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(Applause掌聲)
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(鼓掌)
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HP生命值: Okay. So this imitation仿製 business商業
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赫頓:好吧,所以模仿這件事
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does come with risk風險.
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會有點冒險。
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It doesn't always go as you plan計劃 it,
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模仿並不會總是如你所願,
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even with a talented天才 translator翻譯者.
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即使你有一個很棒的翻譯。
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But I am going to stick with it,
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但是我打算繼續下去,
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because contrary相反 to what we might威力 usually平時 assume承擔,
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因為和我們通常假設相反的是:
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imitating冒充 somebody can reveal揭示 something unique獨特.
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模仿某個人可以顯露出
自己某種獨一無二的特質。
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So every一切 time I fail失敗
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因此每次只要我無法
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to become成為 more like my father父親,
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學得更像我父親,
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I become成為 more like myself.
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我就變得更像自己一點。
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Every一切 time I fail失敗 to become成為 Bruce布魯斯 Lee背風處,
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I become成為 more authentically真正的 me.
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This is my art藝術.
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I strive努力 for authenticity真偽,
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that we might威力 not usually平時 expect期望.
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that I didn't learn學習 to sit like this
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I learned學到了 this from Spider-Man蜘蛛俠.
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(Laughter笑聲)
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Thank you.
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謝謝!
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(Applause掌聲)
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Translated by Marssi Draw
Reviewed by Geoff Chen

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ABOUT THE SPEAKERS
Hetain Patel - Artist
In his compelling stage works, Hetain Patel uses powerful imagery and storytelling to examine questions of identity.

Why you should listen

"What determines our identities anyway?" asks Hetain Patel. As a child, Patel wanted to be like Spider-Man or Bruce Lee; later, he aimed to be more like his father, who displays a much different kind of bravery. From these ambitions, Patel's new show Be Like Water examines shifting identities of all kinds, using dance and bold imagery to power a story of self-examination and self-creation. 

As a conceptual artist, Patel has used photography, sculpture, installation and performance to challenge cultural identity. For his work, he has grown a mustache exactly like the one his father wore when he emigrated from India to the United Kingdom in the 1960s, and remixed the practice henna tattooing to incorporate English words and comics books. Patel's conclusion about identity: that it is an ever-shifting game of imitation. 

 

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Yuyu Rau - Dancer
Yuyu Rau's dance skills span a wide range, from ballet to contemporary to Chinese classical.

Why you should listen

Yuyu Rau is a dancer trained in ballet, contemporary and Chinese classical dance. Born in Taiwan and now a resident of the United Kingdom, Rau has performed with a wide range of dance companies and worked with choreographers like Wayne McGregor, Javier De Frutos, Luca Silvestrini and Douglas Thorpe.

Yau has toured with conceptual artist Hetain Patel, performing in his stage work Be Like Water. In the piece, Rau acts as Patel's translator, and often stands in to help him tell his story. 

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