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Jamie Bartlett: How the mysterious dark net is going mainstream
Džejmi Bartlet (Jamie Bartlett): Kako misteriozni mračni net ulazi u mejnstrim
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Postoji paralelni internet na koji možda još uvek niste naleteli - kom se pristupa uz pomoć posebnog pretraživača i koji je dom nekonvencionalnoj kolekciji sajtova za sve - od anonimnog aktivizma, do nezakonitih radnji. Džejmi Bartlet izveštava sa mračnog interneta.
Jamie Bartlett - Social media analyst
In his book "The Dark Net," Jamie Bartlett investigates Internet subcultures, both legal and illegal. Full bio
In his book "The Dark Net," Jamie Bartlett investigates Internet subcultures, both legal and illegal. Full bio
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If you want to buy high-quality,
low-price cocaine,
low-price cocaine,
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Ako želite da kupite jeftin kokain
veoma dobrog kvaliteta,
veoma dobrog kvaliteta,
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there really is only one place to go,
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zaista postoji samo jedno mesto
gde treba otići,
gde treba otići,
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and that is the dark net
anonymous markets.
anonymous markets.
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a to je mračna mreža anonimnih tržišta.
Ne možete da pristupite ovim sajtovima
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Now, you can't get to these sites
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with a normal browser --
Chrome or Firefox --
Chrome or Firefox --
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uz pomoć uobičajenih pretraživača -
Hroma ili Fajerfoksa,
Hroma ili Fajerfoksa,
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because they're on this
hidden part of the Internet,
hidden part of the Internet,
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jer se nalaze na skrivenom delu interneta,
00:34
known as Tor hidden services,
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poznatom pod nazivom Torove tajne usluge,
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where URLs are a string of meaningless
numbers and letters that end in .onion,
numbers and letters that end in .onion,
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gde su URL-ovi nizovi
besmislenih brojeva i slova
besmislenih brojeva i slova
koji se završavaju nastavkom „.onion”,
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and which you access
with a special browser
with a special browser
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a kojima pristupate uz posebni pretraživač
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called the Tor browser.
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pod nazivom pretraživač Tor.
00:46
Now, the Tor browser was originally
a U.S. Naval intelligence project.
a U.S. Naval intelligence project.
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Pretraživač Tor je izvorno bio projekat
obaveštajne službe američke mornarnice.
obaveštajne službe američke mornarnice.
00:51
It then became open source,
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Tada je postao otvoren izvor
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and it allows anybody to browse the net
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i dozvolio svima da pretražuju mrežu
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without giving away their location.
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bez odavanja njihove lokacije.
00:58
And it does this
by encrypting your IP address
by encrypting your IP address
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Ovo radi kroz šifrovanje vaše IP adrese
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and then routing it via several
other computers around the world
other computers around the world
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a onda i njeno rutiranje preko nekoliko
drugih kompjutera širom sveta
drugih kompjutera širom sveta
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that use the same software.
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koji koriste isti softver.
01:09
You can use it on the normal Internet,
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Možete ga koristiti
na uobičajenom internetu,
na uobičajenom internetu,
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but it's also your key to the dark net.
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ali je on ujedno
i vaš ključ za mračni net.
i vaš ključ za mračni net.
Zbog đavolski pametnog
enkripcionog sistema,
enkripcionog sistema,
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And because of this fiendishly
clever encryption system,
clever encryption system,
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the 20 or 30 -- we don't know exactly --
thousand sites that operate there
thousand sites that operate there
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20 ili 30 - ne znamo tačno -
hiljada sajtova koji tamo rade
hiljada sajtova koji tamo rade
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are incredibly difficult to shut down.
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neobično je teško ugasiti.
01:28
It is a censorship-free world
visited by anonymous users.
visited by anonymous users.
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To je svet bez cenzure
koji posećuju anonimni korisnici.
koji posećuju anonimni korisnici.
01:35
Little wonder, then,
that it's a natural place to go
that it's a natural place to go
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Nije ni čudo, onda,
da je to prirodno mesto
da je to prirodno mesto
da tamo ode bilo ko ko nešto krije,
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for anybody with something to hide,
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01:41
and that something, of course,
need not be illegal.
need not be illegal.
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a to nešto, naravno,
ne mora da bude ilegalno.
ne mora da bude ilegalno.
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On the dark net, you will find
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Na mračnom netu ćete naći
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whistle-blower sites, The New Yorker.
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uzbunjivačke sajtove, Njujorker.
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You will find political activism blogs.
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Naći ćete blogove
vezane za politički aktivizam.
vezane za politički aktivizam.
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You will find libraries of pirated books.
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Naći ćete biblioteke
sa piratskim knjigama.
sa piratskim knjigama.
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But you'll also find the drugs markets,
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Međutim, naći ćete i tržišta sa drogama,
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illegal pornography,
commercial hacking services,
commercial hacking services,
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ilegalnu pornografiju,
komercijalne hakerske službe
komercijalne hakerske službe
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and much more besides.
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i mnogo štošta još.
02:06
Now, the dark net is one of the most
interesting, exciting places
interesting, exciting places
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Tamni net je jedno od najinteresantnijih,
najuzbudljivijih mesta
najuzbudljivijih mesta
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anywhere on the net.
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bilo gde na internetu.
02:13
And the reason is, because
although innovation, of course,
although innovation, of course,
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Razlog tome je -
zato što se inovacija, naravno,
zato što se inovacija, naravno,
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takes place in big businesses,
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dešava u velikim biznisima,
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takes place in world-class universities,
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na univerzitetima svetske klase,
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it also takes place in the fringes,
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dešava se i na marginama
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because those on the fringes --
the pariahs, the outcasts --
the pariahs, the outcasts --
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jer su oni na marginama -
prokazani, izgnanici -
prokazani, izgnanici -
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they're often the most creative,
because they have to be.
because they have to be.
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obično najkreativniji jer moraju da budu.
02:33
In this part of the Internet,
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U ovom delu interneta,
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you will not find a single lolcat,
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nećete naći nijednu jedinu sliku
smešne mace,
smešne mace,
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a single pop-up advert anywhere.
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nijedan iskačući oglas bilo gde,
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And that's one of the reasons why I think
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a to je razlog zbog čega mislim
02:43
many of you here will be
on the dark net fairly soon.
on the dark net fairly soon.
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da će se mnogi od vas ovde
ubrzo naći na tamnom netu.
ubrzo naći na tamnom netu.
02:47
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
02:50
Not that I'm suggesting
anyone in this audience would use it
anyone in this audience would use it
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Nije da sugerišem
da bi ga bilo ko u ovoj publici koristio
da bi ga bilo ko u ovoj publici koristio
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to go and procure high-quality narcotics.
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da ode i nabavi
narkotike visokog kvaliteta,
narkotike visokog kvaliteta,
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But let's say for a moment that you were.
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ali pretpostavimo na trenutak da bi.
02:58
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
03:00
Bear with me.
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Budite strpljvi sa mnom.
03:02
The first thing you will notice
on signing up to one of these sites
on signing up to one of these sites
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Prva stvar koju ćete primetiti
po prijavljivanju na jedan od ovih sajtova
po prijavljivanju na jedan od ovih sajtova
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is how familiar it looks.
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je koliko poznato izgleda.
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Every single product --
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Svaki proizvod -
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thousands of products --
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hiljade proizvoda -
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has a glossy, high-res image,
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ima sjajne slike visoke rezolucije,
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a detailed product description, a price.
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detaljan opis proizvoda, cenu.
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There's a "Proceed to checkout" icon.
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Postoji ikonica „nastavite na kasu”.
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There is even, most beautifully of all,
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Postoji čak, što je najlepše od svega,
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a "Report this item" button.
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dugme „prijavite ovaj predmet”.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
03:33
Incredible.
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Neverovatno.
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You browse through the site,
you make your choice,
you make your choice,
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Pretražujete sajt, odlučujete,
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you pay with the crypto-currency bitcoin,
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plaćate kriptovalutom, bitkoinom,
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you enter an address --
preferably not your home address --
preferably not your home address --
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unesete adresu - poželjno je
da to ne bude vaša kućna adresa -
da to ne bude vaša kućna adresa -
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and you wait for your product
to arrive in the post,
to arrive in the post,
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i čekate da vaš proizvod stigne u poštu,
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which it nearly always does.
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a što se skoro uvek dešava.
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And the reason it does
is not because of the clever encryption.
is not because of the clever encryption.
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Razlog tome nije pametna enkripcija.
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That's important.
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To je važno.
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Something far simpler than that.
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Nešto mnogo jednostavnije od toga.
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It's the user reviews.
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To su korisničke preporuke.
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
04:01
You see, every single vendor
on these sites
on these sites
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Vidite, svaki pojedinačni prodavac
na ovim sajtovima
na ovim sajtovima
04:05
uses a pseudonym, naturally enough,
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koristi pseudonim, prirodno,
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but they keep the same pseudonym
to build up a reputation.
to build up a reputation.
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ali zadržavaju isti pseudonim
da bi izgradili reputaciju.
da bi izgradili reputaciju.
04:11
And because it's easy for the buyer
to change allegiance whenever they want,
to change allegiance whenever they want,
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Pošto je za kupca lako
da postane veran nekom drugom
da postane veran nekom drugom
kad god poželi,
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the only way of trusting a vendor
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jedini način da se veruje prodavcu je
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is if they have a good history
of positive feedback
of positive feedback
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ako imaju dobru istoriju
pozitivne povratne informacije
pozitivne povratne informacije
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from other users of the site.
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drugih korisnika tog sajta.
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And this introduction
of competition and choice
of competition and choice
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Ovo uvođenje kompetitivnosti i izbora
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does exactly what
the economists would predict.
the economists would predict.
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čini upravo ono
što bi ekonomisti predvideli.
što bi ekonomisti predvideli.
04:37
Prices tend to go down,
product quality tends to go up,
product quality tends to go up,
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Cene teže padu,
kvalitet proizvoda teži porastu,
kvalitet proizvoda teži porastu,
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and the vendors are attentive,
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a prodavci su pažljivi,
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they're polite, they're consumer-centric,
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ljubazni, usredsređeni na potrošača,
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offering you all manner
of special deals, one-offs,
of special deals, one-offs,
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nude svakojake posebne uslove,
jednokratne ponude,
jednokratne ponude,
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buy-one-get-one-frees, free delivery,
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kupi-jedno-dobiješ-dva akcije,
besplatnu dostavu
besplatnu dostavu
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to keep you happy.
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da biste ostali zadovoljni.
04:56
I spoke to Drugsheaven.
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Pričao sam sa „Narkorajem”.
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Drugsheaven was offering
excellent and consistent marijuana
excellent and consistent marijuana
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„Narkoraj” je nudio
odličnu i konzistentnu marihuanu
odličnu i konzistentnu marihuanu
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at a reasonable price.
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po pristojnoj ceni.
05:08
He had a very generous refund policy,
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Imao je veoma velikodušnu
politiku povraćaja,
politiku povraćaja,
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detailed T's and C's,
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detaljne odredbe i uslove,
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and good shipping times.
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dobro vreme isporuke.
05:15
"Dear Drugsheaven," I wrote,
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„Dragi Narkoraju”, napisao sam
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via the internal emailing system
that's also encrypted, of course.
that's also encrypted, of course.
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preko internog sistema slanja mejlova
koji je, naravno, šifrovan.
koji je, naravno, šifrovan.
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"I'm new here. Do you mind
if I buy just one gram of marijuana?"
if I buy just one gram of marijuana?"
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„Nov sam ovde. Da li bi vam smetalo
ako bih kupio samo jedan gram marihuane?”
ako bih kupio samo jedan gram marihuane?”
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A couple of hours later, I get a reply.
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Nekoliko sati kasnije, dobio sam odgovor.
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They always reply.
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Uvek odgovaraju.
05:31
"Hi there, thanks for your email.
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„Ćao, hvala na mejlu.
05:34
Starting small is a wise thing to do.
I would, too, if I were you."
I would, too, if I were you."
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Počinjati sa malim je pametna stvar.
I ja bih, da sam na vašem mestu.”
I ja bih, da sam na vašem mestu.”
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(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
05:41
"So no problem if you'd like to start
with just one gram.
with just one gram.
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„Nema problema ako hoćete
da krenete samo sa jednim gramom.
da krenete samo sa jednim gramom.
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I do hope we can do business together.
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Nadam se da ćemo poslovati zajedno.
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Best wishes, Drugsheaven."
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Sve najbolje, Narkoraj.”
05:48
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
Ne znam zašto je imao
snobovski engleski akcenat,
snobovski engleski akcenat,
05:50
I don't know why he had a posh
English accent, but I assume he did.
English accent, but I assume he did.
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ali pretpostavljam da jeste.
05:56
Now, this kind
of consumer-centric attitude
of consumer-centric attitude
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Ovaj stav koji stavlja kupca pre svega
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is the reason why, when I reviewed
120,000 pieces of feedback
120,000 pieces of feedback
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je razlog zbog kojeg sam,
kada sam pregledao
kada sam pregledao
120 000 povratnih komentara
06:06
that had been left on one of these sites
over a three-month period,
over a three-month period,
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ostavljanih na jednom od ovih sajtova
tokom tri meseca,
tokom tri meseca,
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95 percent of them were five out of five.
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95 procenata njih ocenjeno je
sa pet od mogućih pet glasova.
sa pet od mogućih pet glasova.
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The customer, you see, is king.
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Kupac je, vidite, kralj.
06:17
But what does that mean?
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Međutim, šta to znači?
06:19
Well, on the one hand,
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Pa, s jedne strane,
06:20
that means there are more drugs,
more available, more easily,
more available, more easily,
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to znači da ima više droge
koja je dostupnija, lakše,
koja je dostupnija, lakše,
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to more people.
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većem broju ljudi.
06:26
And by my reckoning,
that is not a good thing.
that is not a good thing.
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Moja je ocena da to nije dobra stvar.
06:30
But, on the other hand,
if you are going to take drugs,
if you are going to take drugs,
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Međutim, sa druge strane,
ako ćete uzimati drogu,
ako ćete uzimati drogu,
06:34
you have a reasonably good way
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imate prilično dobar način
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of guaranteeing a certain level
of purity and quality,
of purity and quality,
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za zagarantovan određeni nivo
čistoće i kvaliteta,
čistoće i kvaliteta,
06:42
which is incredibly important
if you're taking drugs.
if you're taking drugs.
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što je izuzetno važno ako se drogirate,
06:45
And you can do so
from the comfort of your own home,
from the comfort of your own home,
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a možete to učiniti
iz udobnosti svog doma,
iz udobnosti svog doma,
06:48
without the risks associated
with buying on the streets.
with buying on the streets.
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bez rizika koji je vezan
za kupovinu na ulici.
za kupovinu na ulici.
06:53
Now, as I said,
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Kao što sam rekao,
06:55
you've got to be creative and innovative
to survive in this marketplace.
to survive in this marketplace.
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morate da budete kreativni i inovativni
da biste preživeli na ovom tržištu.
da biste preživeli na ovom tržištu.
07:00
And the 20 or so sites
that are currently in operation --
that are currently in operation --
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Dvadesetak sajtova koji trenutno rade -
07:03
by the way, they don't always work,
they're not always perfect;
they're not always perfect;
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uzgred, ne rade uvek, nisu uvek savršeni.
07:07
the site that I showed you
was shut down 18 months ago,
was shut down 18 months ago,
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Sajt koji sam vam pokazao
bio je ugašen pre 18 meseci,
bio je ugašen pre 18 meseci,
07:09
but not before it had turned
over a billion dollars' worth of trade.
over a billion dollars' worth of trade.
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ali ne pre nego što je obrnuo
preko milijardu dolara u trgovini.
preko milijardu dolara u trgovini.
07:17
But these markets,
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Međutim, ova tržišta,
07:18
because of the difficult conditions
in which they are operating,
in which they are operating,
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zbog teških uslova u kojima rade,
neprijateljskih uslova,
07:21
the inhospitable conditions,
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stalno inoviraju,
07:23
are always innovating, always
thinking of ways of getting smarter,
thinking of ways of getting smarter,
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stalno razmišljaju
kako da postanu pametniji,
kako da postanu pametniji,
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more decentralized, harder to censor,
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decentralizovaniji,
da ih je teže cenzurisati
da ih je teže cenzurisati
07:28
and more customer-friendly.
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i da su uslužniji prema kupcima.
07:32
Let's take the payment system.
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Uzmimo primer sistema plaćanja.
07:34
You don't pay with your credit card,
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Ne plaćate kreditnom karticom,
naravno - to bi navelo direktno ka vama.
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of course -- that would lead
directly back to you.
directly back to you.
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07:38
So you use the crypto-currency bitcoin,
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Zato koristite kriptovalutu, bitkoin,
07:40
which is easily exchanged
for real-world currencies
for real-world currencies
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koja se lako razmenjuje za prave valute
07:45
and gives quite a high degree
of anonymity to its users.
of anonymity to its users.
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i pruža visok stepen
anonimnosti korisnicima.
anonimnosti korisnicima.
Međutim, kada su ovi sajtovi stvoreni,
07:49
But at the beginning of these sites,
people noticed a flaw.
people noticed a flaw.
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ljudi su primetili jednu manu.
07:52
Some of the unscrupulous dealers
were running away with peoples' bitcoin
were running away with peoples' bitcoin
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Neki od beskrupuloznih prodavaca
bežali su sa bitkoinima ljudi
bežali su sa bitkoinima ljudi
07:56
before they'd mailed the drugs out.
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pre nego što bi poslali drogu.
07:59
The community came up with a solution,
called multi-signature escrow payments.
called multi-signature escrow payments.
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Zajednica je pronašla rešenje,
nazvano uslovna isplata sa više potpisa.
nazvano uslovna isplata sa više potpisa.
08:07
So on purchasing my item,
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Tako, posle kupovine predmeta,
08:10
I would send my bitcoin
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poslao bih bitkoin
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to a neutral, secure third digital wallet.
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u neutralni, sigurni,
treći digitalni novčanik.
treći digitalni novčanik.
08:18
The vendor, who would see
that I'd sent it,
that I'd sent it,
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Prodavac, koji bi video da sam ga poslao,
08:21
would be confident that they
could then send the product to me,
could then send the product to me,
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bio bi siguran da će oni zatim moći
da mi pošalju proizvod,
da mi pošalju proizvod,
08:24
and then when I received it,
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a onda, kada bih ga primio,
08:25
at least two of the three people
engaged in the transaction --
engaged in the transaction --
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bar dvoje od troje ljudi
uključenih u transakciji -
uključenih u transakciji -
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vendor, buyer, site administrator --
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prodavac, kupac, administrator sajta -
08:31
would have to sign the transaction off
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morali bi da zaključe transakciju
08:33
with a unique digital signature,
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jedinstvenim digitalnim potpisom,
08:35
and then the money would be transferred.
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a zatim bi se novac prebacio.
08:38
Brilliant!
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Genijalno!
08:39
Elegant.
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Elegantno.
08:40
It works.
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Funkcioniše.
Međutim, onda su shvatili
da postoji problem sa bitkoinom,
da postoji problem sa bitkoinom,
08:42
But then they realized there was
a problem with bitcoin,
a problem with bitcoin,
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08:45
because every bitcoin transaction
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jer je prebačaj svakog bitkoina
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is actually recorded publicly
in a public ledger.
in a public ledger.
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zapravo bio registrovan
u javnom izveštaju.
u javnom izveštaju.
08:49
So if you're clever, you can try
and work out who's behind them.
and work out who's behind them.
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Ako ste vispreni, možete da pokušate
i shvatite ko stoji iza njih.
i shvatite ko stoji iza njih.
08:53
So they came up with a tumbling service.
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Tako su osmislili uslugu
„mešalice” bitkoina.
„mešalice” bitkoina.
08:56
Hundreds of people send
their bitcoin into one address,
their bitcoin into one address,
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Stotine ljudi šalje svoje bitkoine
na jednu adresu,
na jednu adresu,
08:59
they're tumbled and jumbled up,
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oni se mešaju i ispreturaju,
09:01
and then the right amount
is sent on to the right recipients,
is sent on to the right recipients,
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a zatim se tačna suma
šalje pravom primaocu,
šalje pravom primaocu,
09:05
but they're different bitcoins:
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ali su to sada drugačiji bitkoini:
09:07
micro-laundering systems.
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sistemi za mikro-pranja.
09:09
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:10
It's incredible.
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Neverovatno je.
09:11
Interested in what drugs are trending
right now on the dark net markets?
right now on the dark net markets?
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Zainteresovani ste
koja su opojna sredstva sada u trendu
koja su opojna sredstva sada u trendu
na tržištima mračnog neta?
09:17
Check Grams, the search engine.
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Proverite Grams, pretraživač.
09:19
You can even buy some advertising space.
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Možete i da otkupite
prostor za oglašavanje.
prostor za oglašavanje.
09:21
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:23
Are you an ethical consumer worried
about what the drugs industry is doing?
about what the drugs industry is doing?
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Da li ste etični potrošač
koji je zabrinut oko toga
koji je zabrinut oko toga
šta narko-industrija radi?
09:29
Yeah.
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Da.
09:30
One vendor will offer you
fair trade organic cocaine.
fair trade organic cocaine.
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Jedan prodavac će vam ponuditi
organski kokain iz fer prodaje.
organski kokain iz fer prodaje.
09:34
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:35
That's not being sourced
from Colombian druglords,
from Colombian druglords,
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Ona ne potiče od kolumbijskih narkobosova,
09:38
but Guatemalan farmers.
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već farmera iz Gvatemale.
09:39
They even promised to reinvest
20 percent of any profits
20 percent of any profits
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Čak su i obećali da će ponovo uložiti
20 procenata zarade
20 procenata zarade
09:43
into local education programs.
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u lokalne obrazovne programe.
09:45
(Laughter)
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(Smeh)
09:46
There's even a mystery shopper.
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Postoji čak i misteriozni kupac.
09:48
Now, whatever you think
about the morality of these sites --
about the morality of these sites --
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Šta god da mislite o moralu ovih sajtova -
09:52
and I submit that it's not
actually an easy question --
actually an easy question --
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a tvrdim da to nije lako pitanje -
09:55
the creation of functioning,
competitive, anonymous markets,
competitive, anonymous markets,
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stvaranje funkcionalnog,
kompetitivnog, anonimnog tržišta,
kompetitivnog, anonimnog tržišta,
10:01
where nobody knows who anybody else is,
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gde niko ne zna ko je onaj drugi,
10:03
constantly at risk of being shut down
by the authorities,
by the authorities,
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konstantno pod rizikom da bude ugašen
od strane vlasti,
od strane vlasti,
10:06
is a staggering achievement,
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zapanjujuće je dostignuće,
10:09
a phenomenal achievement.
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fenomenalan uspeh.
10:12
And it's that kind of innovation
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To je vrsta inovacije
10:16
that's why those on the fringes
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zbog koje su oni koji su na marginama
10:18
are often the harbingers
of what is to come.
of what is to come.
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često vesnici onoga što će doći.
10:22
It's easy to forget
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Lako se zaboravlja
10:24
that because of its short life,
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da se, zbog kratkog postojanja,
10:26
the Internet has actually
changed many times
changed many times
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internet zapravo promenio mnogo puta
tokom proteklih tridesetak godina.
10:30
over the last 30 years or so.
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10:31
It started in the '70s
as a military project,
as a military project,
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Nastao je sedamdesetih kao vojni projekat,
10:34
morphed in the 1980s
to an academic network,
to an academic network,
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polako se pretvorio
u akademsku mrežu osamdesetih,
u akademsku mrežu osamdesetih,
preuzele su ga komercijalne kompanije
devedesetih godina
devedesetih godina
10:38
co-opted by commercial
companies in the '90s,
companies in the '90s,
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10:41
and then invaded by all of us
via social media in the noughties,
via social media in the noughties,
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i zatim smo svi mi izvršili invaziju
kroz društvene medije dvehiljaditih,
10:44
but I think it's going to change again.
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ali mislim da će se to ponovo promeniti.
10:47
And I think things
like the dark net markets --
like the dark net markets --
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Mislim da stvari
kao što su tržišta mračnog interneta -
kao što su tržišta mračnog interneta -
10:49
creative, secure, difficult to censor --
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kreativna, bezbedna,
teška za cenzurisanje -
teška za cenzurisanje -
10:53
I think that's the future.
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mislim da su ona budućnost,
10:56
And the reason it's the future
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a razlog zbog kog su budućnost je
10:58
is because we're all worried
about our privacy.
about our privacy.
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jer smo svi zabrinuti za našu privatnost.
11:01
Surveys consistently show
concerns about privacy.
concerns about privacy.
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Istraživanja konzistentno pokazuju
zabrinutost zbog privatnosti.
zabrinutost zbog privatnosti.
11:04
The more time we spend online,
the more we worry about them,
the more we worry about them,
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Što više vremena provodimo onlajn,
više brinemo o ovome,
više brinemo o ovome,
a ova istraživanja pokazuju
da naša zabrinutost raste.
da naša zabrinutost raste.
11:08
and those surveys show
our worries are growing.
our worries are growing.
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Zabrinuti smo šta se dešava
sa našim podacima.
sa našim podacima.
11:10
We're worried about
what happens to our data.
what happens to our data.
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11:12
We're worried about
who might be watching us.
who might be watching us.
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Brine nas ko bi nas mogao posmatrati.
11:15
Since the revelations from Edward Snowden,
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Od otkrovenja Edvarda Snoudena,
11:17
there's been a huge increase
in the number of people
in the number of people
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postoji veliki porast u broju ljudi
11:20
using various privacy-enhancing tools.
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koji koriste različite načine
zaštite privatnosti.
zaštite privatnosti.
11:23
There are now between two
and three million daily users
and three million daily users
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Danas postoji između dva i tri miliona
svakodnevnih korisnika
svakodnevnih korisnika
11:26
of the Tor browser,
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pretraživača Tor,
11:27
the majority of which use
is perfectly legitimate,
is perfectly legitimate,
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čije je korišćenje
većinom savršeno legitimno,
većinom savršeno legitimno,
11:33
sometimes even mundane.
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ponekad čak i u sasvim obične svrhe.
11:35
And there are hundreds of activists
around the world
around the world
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Postoji i nekoliko stotina aktivista
širom sveta
širom sveta
11:38
working on techniques and tools
to keep you private online --
to keep you private online --
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koji rade na tehnikama i načinima
da zadržite svoju onlajn privatnost -
da zadržite svoju onlajn privatnost -
11:45
default encrypted messaging services.
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automatske usluge šifrovanih poruka.
11:47
Ethereum, which is a project
which tries to link up
which tries to link up
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Etirijum, projekat koji pokušava da poveže
11:51
the connected but unused hard drives
of millions of computers around the world,
of millions of computers around the world,
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povezane, ali neiskorišćene hard drajvere
miliona kompjutera širom sveta
11:56
to create a sort of distributed Internet
that no one really controls.
that no one really controls.
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da bi stvorio
vrstu raspodeljenog interneta
vrstu raspodeljenog interneta
koji niko zaista ne kontroliše.
12:00
Now, we've had distributed
computing before, of course.
computing before, of course.
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Naravno da smo i ranije imali
raspodeljeno korišćenje računara.
raspodeljeno korišćenje računara.
12:03
We use it for everything from Skype
to the search for extraterrestrial life.
to the search for extraterrestrial life.
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Koristimo ga za sve, od Skajpa
do potrage za vanzemaljskim životom,
do potrage za vanzemaljskim životom,
12:07
But you add distributed computing
and powerful encryption --
and powerful encryption --
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ali ako raspodeljenom računarstvu
dodate moćnu enkripciju -
dodate moćnu enkripciju -
12:12
that's very, very hard
to censor and control.
to censor and control.
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to je veoma, veoma teško
cenzurisati i kontrolisati.
cenzurisati i kontrolisati.
12:16
Another called MaidSafe
works on similar principles.
works on similar principles.
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Drugi pod nazivom Mejdsejf
radi po sličnim principima.
radi po sličnim principima.
12:19
Another called Twister,
and so on and so on.
and so on and so on.
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Još jedan, nazvan Tvister, i tako dalje.
12:23
And here's the thing --
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Evo o čemu se radi -
12:25
the more of us join,
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što nas je više pridruženih,
12:26
the more interesting those sites become,
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sajt postaje interesantniji,
12:29
and then the more of us join, and so on.
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a onda se pridružuje
sve više i više ljudi,
sve više i više ljudi,
12:32
And I think that's what's going to happen.
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a mislim da će se to desiti.
Zapravo, već se dešava.
12:34
In fact, it's already happening.
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12:36
The dark net is no longer
a den for dealers
a den for dealers
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Mračni internet nije više
samo jazbina za dilere
samo jazbina za dilere
12:40
and a hideout for whistle-blowers.
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i sklonište za uzbunjivače.
12:42
It's already going mainstream.
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Već ulazi u redovnu upotrebu.
12:45
Just recently, the musician Aphex Twin
released his album as a dark net site.
released his album as a dark net site.
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Skoro je muzičar Ejfeks Tvin
objavio album
objavio album
kao sajt na mračnom internetu.
12:52
Facebook has started a dark net site.
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Fejsbuk je započet
kao sajt na mračnom internetu.
kao sajt na mračnom internetu.
12:56
A group of London architects
have opened a dark net site
have opened a dark net site
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Grupa londonskih arhitekata
otvorila je sajt na mračnom netu
otvorila je sajt na mračnom netu
12:59
for people worried
about regeneration projects.
about regeneration projects.
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za ljude koji su zabrinuti
za projekat obnove.
za projekat obnove.
13:02
Yes, the dark net is going mainstream,
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Da, mračni internet ulazi u mejnstrim
13:05
and I predict that fairly soon,
every social media company,
every social media company,
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i predviđam da će uskoro
svaka kompanija društvenih medija,
svaka kompanija društvenih medija,
13:09
every major news outlet,
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svaki glavni izvor novosti
13:10
and therefore most of you
in this audience,
in this audience,
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i, prema tome, većina vas u ovoj publici
13:13
will be using the dark net, too.
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koristiti mračni internet, takođe.
Internet će uskoro postati interesantniji,
13:16
So the Internet is about to get
more interesting,
more interesting,
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13:19
more exciting, more innovative,
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uzbudljiviji, inovativniji,
13:22
more terrible,
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strašniji,
13:24
more destructive.
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destruktivniji.
To su dobre vesti
13:27
That's good news
if you care about liberty.
if you care about liberty.
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ako vam je stalo do slobode,
13:29
It's good news if you care about freedom.
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do nesputanosti,
13:31
It's good news if you care
about democracy.
about democracy.
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do demokratije.
13:33
It's also good news
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Takođe su dobre vesti
13:34
if you want to browse
for illegal pornography
for illegal pornography
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ako želite da tražite
ilegalnu pornografiju
ilegalnu pornografiju
13:37
and if you want to buy and sell drugs
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i ako hoćete da kupite ili prodate drogu
13:39
with impunity.
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nekažnjeno.
13:41
Neither entirely dark, nor entirely light.
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Ni potpuno mračan, ni potpuno svetao.
13:45
It's not one side or the other
that's going to win out, but both.
that's going to win out, but both.
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Ne postoji jedna ili druga strana
koja će pobediti, već obe.
koja će pobediti, već obe.
13:50
Thank you very much, indeed.
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Hvala vam, zaista.
13:52
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Jamie Bartlett - Social media analystIn his book "The Dark Net," Jamie Bartlett investigates Internet subcultures, both legal and illegal.
Why you should listen
As the director of the Centre for the Analysis of Social Media at Demos, a leading UK think tank, Jamie Bartlett is currently involved in projects on crypto-currencies, surveillance and counter-surveillance methods and ISIS’s use of social media for propaganda and recruitment. He is a vocal columnist and commentator and the author of The Dark Net, a book on legal and illegal internet subcultures. Previously, he conducted field research in Pakistan and Bangladesh.
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