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Amy Tan - Novelist
Amy Tan is the author of such beloved books as The Joy Luck Club, The Kitchen God's Wife and The Hundred Secret Senses.

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Born in the US to immigrant parents from China, Amy Tan rejected her mother's expectations that she become a doctor and concert pianist. She chose to write fiction instead. Her much-loved, best-selling novels have been translated into 35 languages. In 2008, she wrote a libretto for The Bonesetter's Daughter, which premiered that September with the San Francisco Opera.

Tan was the creative consultant for Sagwa, the Emmy-nominated PBS series for children, and she has appeared as herself on The Simpsons. She's the lead rhythm dominatrix, backup singer and second tambourine with the Rock Bottom Remainders, a literary garage band that has raised more than a million dollars for literacy programs.

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Amy Tan: Where does creativity hide?

谭恩美谈创意

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小说家谭恩美寻找她发展创意的过程,探讨创意从何而来。
- Novelist
Amy Tan is the author of such beloved books as The Joy Luck Club, The Kitchen God's Wife and The Hundred Secret Senses. Full bio

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The Value of Nothing: Out of Nothing Comes Something.
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无的价值:无中生有的可能
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That was an essay文章 I wrote when I was 11 years年份 old
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这是一篇我在十一岁时写的作文
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and I got a B+. (Laughter笑声)
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当时我拿了个乙等。(笑)
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What I'm going to talk about: nothing out of something, and how we create创建.
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今天我要谈的是创作,和无中生有的艺术
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And I'm gonna try and do that within
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我不但要试着在
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the 18-minute-分钟 time span跨度 that we were told to stay within,
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大会给我的18分钟时限中完成
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and to follow跟随 the TEDTED commandments戒律:
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并且遵守TED的严格戒律:
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that is, actually其实, something that creates创建
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我必须说,这些戒律的确让我
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a near-death接近死亡 experience经验,
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有一种濒临死亡的感觉
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but near-death接近死亡 is good for creativity创造力.
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但濒临死亡是有益于创作的
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(Laughter笑声) OK.
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(笑)好
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So, I also want to explain说明,
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我还想顺便提到
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because Dave戴夫 Eggers埃格斯 said he was going to heckle诘问 me
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如果我说谎,或是说的东西不能普世通用
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if I said anything that was a lie谎言, or not true真正 to universal普遍 creativity创造力.
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大卫艾格说他将会严厉地质问我
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And I've doneDONE it this way for half the audience听众, who is scientific科学.
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这个图是为了听众中的科学家画的
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When I say we, I don't mean you, necessarily一定;
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当我使用“我们”的时候,我不一定是指你
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I mean me, and my right brain, my left brain
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而是说我,和我的右脑,我的左脑
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and the one that's in between之间 that is the censor审查
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还有在它们中间那负责审查的东西
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and tells告诉 me what I'm saying is wrong错误.
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如果我说错了什么,它将会提醒我
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And I'm going do that also by looking at
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我也将会谈论
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what I think is part部分 of my creative创作的 process处理,
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我个人的创作过程
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which哪一个 includes包括 a number of things that happened发生, actually其实 --
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那包含了一些不同的事件
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the nothing started开始 even earlier than the moment时刻
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无在更早之前发生
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in which哪一个 I'm creating创建 something new.
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在我开始创作之前就发生了
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And that includes包括 nature性质, and nurture培育,
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那包括了天份,滋养
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and what I refer参考 to as nightmares噩梦.
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还有我叫做梦魇的东西
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Now in the nature性质 area, we look at whether是否 or not
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在天份的方面,我们必须要检视
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we are innately天生 equipped装备 with something, perhaps也许
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我们是否生来就有这天赋,或者
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in our brains大脑, some abnormal不正常 chromosome染色体
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在我们的大脑里,是否有些一些不正常的染色体
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that causes原因 this muse-like缪斯般的 effect影响.
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带来了这些像是灵感的效应
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And some people would say that we're born天生 with it in some other means手段.
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有些人会用别的方法说这是我们与生俱来的
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And others其他, like my mother母亲,
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还有一些人,像我的母亲
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would say that I get my material材料 from past过去 lives生活.
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会说我是从前世里找到这些写作材料的
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Some people would also say that creativity创造力
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有些人会说创作力
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may可能 be a function功能 of some other neurological神经 quirk俏皮话 --
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是一种精神异常的副作用 --
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van面包车 Gogh梵高 syndrome综合征 -- that you have a little bit of, you know, psychosis精神病, or depression萧条.
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类似梵高症候群 -- 就是你有一点精神失常,或是忧郁症
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I do have to say, somebody -- I read recently最近
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但我必须告诉这些人 -- 最近我才读到
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that van面包车 Gogh梵高 wasn't really necessarily一定 psychotic精神病,
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梵高其实不一定是精神病患
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that he might威力 have had temporal lobe seizures癫痫发作,
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而更可能得了一种颞叶癫痫症
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and that might威力 have caused造成 his spurt of creativity创造力, and I don't --
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造成了他这种突然性的创作力
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I suppose假设 it does something in some part部分 of your brain.
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我想那的确会影响你一部分的大脑
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And I will mention提到 that I actually其实 developed发达
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我也必须提到,事实上
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temporal lobe seizures癫痫发作 a number of years年份 ago,
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数年前我也有过这种颞叶癫痫
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but it was during the time I was writing写作 my last book,
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那时我正在写我的上一本书
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and some people say that book is quite相当 different不同.
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有些人说那本书很不同
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I think that part部分 of it also begins开始 with a sense of identity身分 crisis危机:
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还有一部分是从身份危机开始的:
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you know, who am I, why am I this particular特定 person,
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我是谁,为什么我是这个我
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why am I not black黑色 like everybody每个人 else其他?
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为什么我不像别人一样是黑人?
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And sometimes有时 you're equipped装备 with skills技能,
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有时候,你装备着那些技能
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but they may可能 not be the kind of skills技能 that enable启用 creativity创造力.
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但它们可能不是一些能带来创造力的技能
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I used to draw. I thought I would be an artist艺术家.
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我以前还会画画。我曾以为我会成为一个画家
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And I had a miniature微型 poodle狮子狗.
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这是我画的迷你贵宾狗
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And it wasn't bad, but it wasn't really creative创作的.
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似乎还不坏,但实在算不上什么创意
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Because all I could really do was represent代表 in a very one-on-one一对一 way.
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因为我所能做的不过是把它们一个个画下来
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And I have a sense that I probably大概 copied复制 this from a book.
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而且我很有可能还是从一本书上抄绘下来的
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And then, I also wasn't really shining闪亮的 in a certain某些 area that I wanted to be,
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但是我在我真正想要的地方又似乎表现的不是太出色
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and you know, you look at those scores分数, and it wasn't bad,
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你知道,你看着那些成绩,是不很差
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but it was not certainly当然 predictive预测 that I would one day make
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但也绝不可能让我预测到
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my living活的 out of the artful arrangement安排 of words.
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有天我竟然能用写作来谋生
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Also, one of the principles原则 of creativity创造力 is to have a little childhood童年 trauma外伤.
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创意的其中一项原则是拥有童年的心理创伤
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And I had the usual通常 kind that I think a lot of people had,
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我想我有的创伤和一般人一样
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and that is that, you know, I had expectations期望 placed放置 on me.
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来自父母对子女过分热切的期望
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That figure数字 right there, by the way,
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那具人体模型
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figure数字 right there was a toy玩具 given特定 to me when I was but nine years年份 old,
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是我在九岁的时候得到的一件玩具,
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and it was to help me become成为 a doctor医生 from a very early age年龄.
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以助我在童年时期就能踏上成为医生康庄大道
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I have some ones那些 that were long lasting持久: from the age年龄 of five to 15,
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还有一些持续比较久的心理创伤:从五到十五岁
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this was supposed应该 to be my side occupation占用,
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成为一个钢琴家理应变成我的第二职业
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and it led to a sense of failure失败.
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但最终它只变成我感觉失败的来源
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But actually其实, there was something quite相当 real真实 in my life
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但事实上在我人生中是有一些真实的心理创伤
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that happened发生 when I was about 14.
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发生在我十四岁的时候
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And it was discovered发现 that my brother哥哥, in 1967, and then my father父亲,
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就是发现我的兄弟,在1967年,然后我的父亲
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six months个月 later后来, had brain tumors肿瘤.
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六个月以后,双双长了脑瘤
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And my mother母亲 believed相信 that something had gone走了 wrong错误,
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我母亲相信有些事情出错了
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and she was gonna find out what it was, and she was gonna fix固定 it.
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她想找出原因,然后解决它
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My father父亲 was a Baptist浸礼者 minister部长, and he believed相信 in miracles奇迹,
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我父亲是个牧师,他相信神迹
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and that God's will would take care关心 of that.
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他相信神会解决那些问题
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But, of course课程, they ended结束 up dying垂死, six months个月 apart距离.
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但当然,他们都过世了,中间隔了六个月
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And after that, my mother母亲 believed相信 that it was fate命运, or curses诅咒
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在那之后,我母亲相信那是命运,是诅咒
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-- she went looking through通过 all the reasons原因 in the universe宇宙
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她找遍了宇宙间所有可能的理由
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why this would have happened发生.
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为什么这件事会发生
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Everything except randomness随机性. She did not believe in randomness随机性.
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除了偶然以外所有的理由。她不相信偶然
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There was a reason原因 for everything.
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每件事都有原因
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And one of the reasons原因, she thought, was that her mother母亲,
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她相信其中一件原因是在她的母亲
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who had died死亡 when she was very young年轻, was angry愤怒 at her.
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她相信在她幼年就过世的母亲怨恨她
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And so, I had this notion概念 of death死亡 all around me,
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所以我总被死亡的阴影笼罩着
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because my mother母亲 also believed相信 that I would be next下一个, and she would be next下一个.
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因为我母亲还相信我会是下一个,或是她会是下一个
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And when you are faced面对 with the prospect展望 of death死亡 very soon不久,
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当你面对死亡的时候
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you begin开始 to think very much about everything.
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你开始认真思考每件事情
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You become成为 very creative创作的, in a survival生存 sense.
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你开始非常有创造力,从一种争取生存的角度来说
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And this, then, led to my big questions问题.
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这让我想到一个大问题
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And they're the same相同 ones那些 that I have today今天.
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一些我今日仍然在想的问题
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And they are: why do things happen发生, and how do things happen发生?
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为什么事情会发生,它们是怎么发生的?
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And the one my mother母亲 asked: how do I make things happen发生?
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和我母亲问的那句:我怎么让这些事情发生的?
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It's a wonderful精彩 way to look at these questions问题, when you write a story故事.
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在撰写故事的时候,这都是一些很重要的问题
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Because, after all, in that framework骨架, between之间 page one and 300,
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因为你必须三百页的篇幅中回答这些问题:
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you have to answer回答 this question of why things happen发生, how things happen发生,
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为什么事情会这样发生,它是怎么发生的
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in what order订购 they happen发生. What are the influences影响?
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事情发生的顺序和影响
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How do I, as the narrator叙述者, as the writer作家, also influence影响 that?
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我,身为一个述说者,对这个故事又有什么影响?
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And it's also one that, I think, many许多 of our scientists科学家们 have been asking.
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我想这也是所有科学家所问的问题
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It's a kind of cosmology宇宙学, and I have to develop发展 a cosmology宇宙学 of my own拥有 universe宇宙,
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我在我的世界中发展出自己的宇宙观
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as the creator创造者 of that universe宇宙.
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像一个宇宙的创造者。
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And you see, there's a lot of back and forth向前
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这中间有许多的反复
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in trying to make that happen发生, trying to figure数字 it out
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尝试着创造,尝试着理出头绪
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-- years年份 and years年份, oftentimes通常情况下.
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年复一年,往往。
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So, when I look at creativity创造力, I also think that it is this sense or this inability无力
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当我想到创作力的时候,我也认为
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to repress, my looking at associations协会 in practically几乎 anything in life.
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这来自一种对日常生活中每件事无法压抑的看法。
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And I got a lot of them during what's been going on
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我在许多事件发生时做出观察
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throughout始终 this conference会议,
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在这个大会中,
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almost几乎 everything that's been going on.
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几乎是所有发生的事情。
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And so I'm going to use, as the metaphor隐喻, this association协会:
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让我在这里用量子力学做比喻:
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quantum量子 mechanics机械学, which哪一个 I really don't understand理解,
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虽然我并不理解量子力学,
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but I'm still gonna use it as the process处理
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但我将以它做为一种过程
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for explaining说明 how it is the metaphor隐喻.
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来解释为何它是个比喻。
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So, in quantum量子 mechanics机械学, of course课程, you have dark黑暗 energy能源 and dark黑暗 matter.
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在量子力学中,有着暗能量和暗物质。
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And it's the same相同 thing in looking at these questions问题 of how things happen发生.
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就像我们尝试解释事情为何会发生的时候
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There's a lot of unknown未知, and you often经常 don't know what it is except by its absence缺席.
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有许多未知,你不知道那是什么,只知道它不在
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But when you make those associations协会,
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但当你尝试找出关联性时
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you want them to come together一起 in a kind of synergy协同效应 in the story故事,
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当你希望能在故事中把事件连接起来时
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and what you're finding发现 is what matters事项. The meaning含义.
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你突然发现了事物的核心。它的意义。
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And that's what I look for in my work, a personal个人 meaning含义.
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这就是我在我的作品中所想要找寻的,对我而言的意义。
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There is also the uncertainty不确定 principle原理, which哪一个 is part部分 of quantum量子 mechanics机械学,
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在量子力学中还有测不准原理,
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as I understand理解 it. (Laughter笑声)
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至少我想有。(笑)
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And this happens发生 constantly经常 in the writing写作.
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同样的事也时常发生在写作中。
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And there's the terrible可怕 and dreaded可怕的 observer观察者 effect影响,
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还有一种可怕的观者效应,
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in which哪一个 you're looking for something, and
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当你在找寻一些事情的时候,
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you know, things are happening事件 simultaneously同时,
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那些同时发生的事情,
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and you're looking at it in a different不同 way,
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你尝试用不同角度去看它,
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and you're trying to really look for the about-ness关于岬,
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你尝试找出它和其他事物的关联性,
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or what is this story故事 about. And if you try too hard,
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或是这个故事和什么有关。如果你过分强求,
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then you will only write the about.
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最后你写下的只是“关联”。
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You won't惯于 discover发现 anything.
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却什么也没发现。
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And what you were supposed应该 to find,
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而你应该找到的,
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what you hoped希望 to find in some serendipitous偶然 way,
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你真正希望能找到的,在无意中,
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is no longer there.
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却已经不在了。
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Now, I don't want to ignore忽视
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我并不想忽略
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the other side of what happens发生 in our universe宇宙,
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在宇宙另一边发生的事,
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like many许多 of our scientists科学家们 have.
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像一些科学家所做的一样。
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And so, I am going to just throw in string theory理论 here,
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所以在这里我也要顺便谈谈弦理论,
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and just say that creative创作的 people are multidimensional多维,
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证明创意人不仅是多维的,
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and there are 11 levels水平, I think, of anxiety焦虑.
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还有着十一种层次的焦虑。
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(Laughter笑声) And they all operate操作 at the same相同 time.
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(笑)而且它们全部一起发生。
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There is also a big question of ambiguity歧义.
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再来还有模棱两可的问题。
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And I would link链接 that to something called the cosmological宇宙 constant不变.
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像是你们说的宇宙常数。
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And you don't know what is operating操作, but something is operating操作 there.
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你不明白什么在运作,但有些事情在运作。
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And ambiguity歧义, to me, is very uncomfortable不舒服
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模棱两可是一种非常不舒服的感觉,对我的人生来说
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in my life, and I have it. Moral道德 ambiguity歧义.
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但它仍然存在。道德的不确定性
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It is constantly经常 there. And, just as an example,
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总是存在着。举例来说,
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this is one that recently最近 came来了 to me.
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最近刚发生了一件事。
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It was something I read in an editorial社论 by a woman女人
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在我从事编辑工作时,我读到
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who was talking about the war战争 in Iraq伊拉克. And she said,
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一个女人在描写伊拉克战争时,
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"Save保存 a man from drowning溺死, you are responsible主管 to him for life."
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她使用了一句很有名的中国谚语
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A very famous著名 Chinese中文 saying, she said.
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”救一个溺水者,你便得为他的一生负责。“
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And that means手段 because we went into Iraq伊拉克, we should stay there
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意味着既然我们进入了伊拉克,我们便应该长驻
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until直到 things were solved解决了. You know, maybe even 100 years年份.
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直到事情解决。你知道,就算要上百年
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So, there was another另一个 one that I came来了 across横过,
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还有另一个例子
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and it's "saving保存 fish from drowning溺死."
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就是”救溺水的游鱼“
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And it's what Buddhist佛教徒 fishermen渔民 say,
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来自一个信仰佛教的渔夫
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because they're not supposed应该 to kill anything.
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佛教相信人不该杀生
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And they also have to make a living活的, and people need to be fed美联储.
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但渔夫却仍得谋生,养家
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So their way of rationalizing合理化 that is they are saving保存 the fish from drowning溺死,
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为了将杀生合理化,他们声称自己是在救溺水的鱼
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and unfortunately不幸, in the process处理 the fish die.
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但鱼不幸地在过程中死了。
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Now, what's encapsulated封装 in both these drowning溺死 metaphors隐喻
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暗藏在这两个溺水故事中的比喻是
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-- actually其实, one of them is my mother's母亲 interpretation解释,
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其中一个说法来自我母亲
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and it is a famous著名 Chinese中文 saying, because she said it to me:
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中国人常说的
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"save保存 a man from drowning溺死, you are responsible主管 to him for life."
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”救一个溺水者,你便得为他的一生负责。“
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And it was a warning警告 -- don't get involved参与 in other people's人们 business商业,
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那是一种警告:别管别人的闲事
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or you're going to get stuck卡住.
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免得被缠上
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OK. I think if somebody really was drowning溺死, she'd save保存 them.
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但我想如果真的有人溺水的话,她还是会救他们的
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But, both of these sayings语录 -- saving保存 a fish from drowning溺死,
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但这两种说法,不管是救溺水的鱼,
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or saving保存 a man from drowning溺死 -- to me they had to do with intentions意图.
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还是溺水的人,这取决与你的意图
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And all of us in life, when we see a situation情况, we have a response响应.
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我们在人生中,都得对我们身边发生的事情做出反应
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And then we have intentions意图.
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怀抱着各自的意图
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There's an ambiguity歧义 of what that should be that we should do,
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在我们应该做的,和最后真正做了的两者之间
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and then we do something.
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有一些模棱两可之处
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And the results结果 of that may可能 not match比赛 what our intentions意图 had been.
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而结果也不一定符合我们原本的意图
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Maybe things go wrong错误. And so, after that, what are our responsibilities责任?
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说不定事情搞砸了。若当如此,我们的责任又在哪?
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What are we supposed应该 to do?
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我们该怎么做?
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Do we stay in for life,
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我们该留下来负责
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or do we do something else其他 and justify辩解 and say, well, my intentions意图 were good,
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还是尝试合理化我们的行为,说,我的本意是好的
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and therefore因此 I cannot不能 be held保持 responsible主管 for all of it?
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所以我不应当负全责
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That is the ambiguity歧义 in my life
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这便是我人生中很难接受的模棱两可
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that really disturbed不安 me, and led me to write a book called
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甚至让我因此写了本书,就叫做
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"Saving保存 Fish From Drowning溺死."
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救一只溺水的鱼
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I saw examples例子 of that. Once一旦 I identified确定 this question, it was all over the place地点.
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一旦你意识到这个问题,就发现它无所不在
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I got these hints提示 everywhere到处.
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在哪里都能看到它的痕迹
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And then, in a way, I knew知道 that they had always been there.
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同时我也知道,它们一直都在那里。
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And then writing写作, that's what happens发生. I get these hints提示, these clues线索,
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在写作上,我看见这些暗示,这些线索
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and I realize实现 that they've他们已经 been obvious明显, and yet然而 they have not been.
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我意识到它们一直都在那,但又隐身不见
11:34
And what I need, in effect影响, is a focus焦点.
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我需要的是焦点
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And when I have the question, it is a focus焦点.
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当我有一个问题要问的时候,它就是一个焦点
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And all these things that seem似乎 to be flotsam废料 and jetsam废弃的货物 in life actually其实 go through通过
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那些在人生中的灾难都会过去
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that question, and what happens发生 is those particular特定 things become成为 relevant相应.
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这些问题,和在这些事件中所发生的事都是有关联的
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And it seems似乎 like it's happening事件 all the time.
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而且它无处不在
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You think there's a sort分类 of coincidence巧合 going on, a serendipity意外发现,
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你以为它不过是偶发事件,或是碰巧发生的
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in which哪一个 you're getting得到 all this help from the universe宇宙.
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或许是来自宇宙的帮忙
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And it may可能 also be explained解释 that now you have a focus焦点.
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也可以解释成,心中有了焦点以后
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And you are noticing注意到 it more often经常.
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你更能发现它的存在
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But you apply应用 this.
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当你开始应用它
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You begin开始 to look at things having to do with your tensions紧张.
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你开始检视那些令你紧张的事情
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Your brother哥哥, who's谁是 fallen堕落 in trouble麻烦, do you take care关心 of him?
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当你的兄弟遇上了麻烦,你该帮助他吗?
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Why or why not?
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为什么要,又为什么不要?
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It may可能 be something that is perhaps也许 more serious严重
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它或许比你想象的更为严肃
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-- as I said, human人的 rights权利 in Burma缅甸.
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像缅甸的人权问题
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I was thinking思维 that I shouldn't不能 go because somebody said, if I did, it would show显示
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我本来想着我是否不应该去,因为有人告诉我
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that I approved批准 of the military军事 regime政权 there.
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我在那里出现意味着我支持当地的军权统治
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And then, after a while, I had to ask myself,
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但一阵子以后,我自问
12:33
"Why do we take on knowledge知识, why do we take on assumptions假设
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“为什么我们要在意他人对我们的想法
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that other people have given特定 us?"
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或认知?”
12:38
And it was the same相同 thing that I felt when I was growing生长 up,
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这和我在成长过程中的感觉很像
12:41
and was hearing听力 these rules规则 of moral道德 conduct进行 from my father父亲,
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我身为牧师的父亲
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who was a Baptist浸礼者 minister部长.
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给我们的所有规则和道德指标
12:48
So I decided决定 that I would go to Burma缅甸 for my own拥有 intentions意图,
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最后我决定为了我自己去缅甸
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and still didn't know that if I went there,
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而我仍然不知道,到了那里
12:56
what the result结果 of that would be, if I wrote a book --
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写一本书,结果又会如何
12:59
and I just would have to face面对 that later后来, when the time came来了.
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但我只能等到时机出现的时候,再来面对这些问题
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We are all concerned关心 with things that we see in the world世界 that we are aware知道的 of.
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我们总是在意这世界上我们所感知的事物
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We come to this point and say, what do I as an individual个人 do?
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我们对自己说:我能做什么?
13:13
Not all of us can go to Africa非洲, or work at hospitals医院,
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不是每个人都可以去非洲,或是在医院工作
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so what do we do, if we have this moral道德 response响应, this feeling感觉?
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我又该如何处理我里面的这个道德感?
13:24
Also, I think one of the biggest最大 things we are all looking at,
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我想今日的一个重要议题是
13:27
and we talked about today今天, is genocide种族灭绝.
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种族灭绝
13:30
This leads引线 to this question.
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我们再次回到同样的问题
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When I look at all these things that are morally道德 ambiguous暧昧 and uncomfortable不舒服,
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当我遇见这些在道德上模棱两可,让我感觉不舒服的事件
13:38
and I consider考虑 what my intentions意图 should be,
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我的心态又是如何?
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I realize实现 it goes back to this identity身分 question that I had when I was a child儿童
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我认知到这让我再次回到孩提时所遇见的身份认知议题
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-- and why am I here, and what is the meaning含义 of my life,
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为什么我在这里,人生的意义时什么
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and what is my place地点 in the universe宇宙?
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我在宇宙间的位置是什么?
13:50
It seems似乎 so obvious明显, and yet然而 it is not.
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这看起来似乎很明显,但一点也不
13:53
We all hate讨厌 moral道德 ambiguity歧义 in some sense,
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我们都不喜欢道德上的不确定性
13:58
and yet然而 it is also absolutely绝对 necessary必要.
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但这种不确定感确是绝对必要的
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In writing写作 a story故事, it is the place地点 where I begin开始.
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在我写作的时候,这便是我开始的地方
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Sometimes有时 I get help from the universe宇宙, it seems似乎.
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有时看上去似乎我受到宇宙的帮助
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My mother母亲 would say it was the ghost of my grandmother祖母 from the very first book,
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我母亲说从第一本开始,灵感就来自我祖母的鬼魂
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because it seemed似乎 I knew知道 things I was not supposed应该 to know.
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因为我似乎知道许多我不应该知道的事
14:16
Instead代替 of writing写作 that the grandmother祖母 died死亡 accidentally偶然,
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我没有描写我的祖母
14:19
from an overdose过量 of opium鸦片, while having too much of a good time,
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是因为吃了过量的鸦片而意外过世的
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I actually其实 put down in the story故事 that the woman女人 killed杀害 herself她自己,
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而在故事里描写那女人自杀了
14:27
and that actually其实 was the way it happened发生.
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那却是我本来不知道的事实
14:29
And my mother母亲 decided决定 that that information信息 must必须 have come from my grandmother祖母.
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我母亲认为这些资讯一定来自我祖母的鬼魂。
14:34
There are also things, quite相当 uncanny神秘的,
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除此以外,还有一些离奇的事件
14:37
which哪一个 bring带来 me information信息 that will help me in the writing写作 of the book.
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在写作时为我带来了不同的写作资料
14:41
In this case案件, I was writing写作 a story故事
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当时我正在写一个古代的故事
14:43
that included包括 some kind of detail详情, period of history历史, a certain某些 location位置.
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需要那个年代的历史和地理资料
14:47
And I needed需要 to find something historically历史 that would match比赛 that.
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来补足故事中的细节
14:50
And I took down this book, and I --
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我从书架上拿下这本书
14:52
first page that I flipped翻转 it to was exactly究竟 the setting设置, and the time period,
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我翻开的第一页便是我故事里的时代和地点
14:58
and the kind of character字符 I needed需要 -- was the Taiping太平 rebellion暴动,
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和我在描写太平天国时所需要的人物
15:01
happening事件 in the area near Guilin桂林, outside of that,
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在一个接近桂林的地方
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and a character字符 who thought he was the son儿子 of God.
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和一个认为他是神的儿子的人物。
15:08
You wonder奇迹, are these things random随机 chance机会?
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你不禁想,这一切都是偶然的吗?
15:11
Well, what is random随机? What is chance机会? What is luck运气?
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但偶然是什么?机会是什么?运气又是什么?
15:15
What are things that you get from the universe宇宙 that you can't really explain说明?
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那些从天而降的灵感又是什么?
15:19
And that goes into the story故事, too.
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这也成为故事的一部分
15:21
These are the things I constantly经常 think about from day to day.
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这些就是我日复一日想着的事
15:24
Especially特别 when good things happen发生,
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在好事发生的时候
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and, in particular特定, when bad things happen发生.
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尤其,在坏事发生的时候
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But I do think there's a kind of serendipity意外发现,
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但我是相信这种突发灵感的
15:32
and I do want to know what those elements分子 are,
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我也想知道它们形成的元素是什么
15:35
so I can thank them, and also try to find them in my life.
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我才能感谢,和找到它们
15:40
Because, again, I think that when I am aware知道的 of them, more of them happen发生.
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因为,我想,我越能察觉它们,它们就发生的越频繁
15:44
Another另一个 chance机会 encounter遭遇 is when I went to a place地点
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还有一次是一个地方
15:48
-- I just was with some friends朋友, and we drove开车 randomly随机 to a different不同 place地点,
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我只是和朋友漫无目的地开着车
15:52
and we ended结束 up in this non-tourist非旅游 location位置,
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却到了这个旅游景点以外之地
15:56
a beautiful美丽 village, pristine质朴.
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一个淳朴的,古朴的村庄
15:58
And we walked three valleys山谷 beyond,
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我们越过了三个山谷
16:00
and the third第三 valley, there was something quite相当 mysterious神秘 and ominous不祥的,
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在第三个山谷,我有些神秘的,不舒服的预感
16:03
a discomfort不舒服 I felt. And then I knew知道 that had to be [the] setting设置 of my book.
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我知道这将成为我故事的场景。
16:09
And in writing写作 one of the scenes场景, it happened发生 in that third第三 valley.
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故事里的其中一幕便发生在第三个山谷
16:12
For some reason原因 I wrote about cairns凯恩斯 -- stacks of rocks岩石 -- that a man was building建造.
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其中一幕我写到,一个男人,正摆着石堆
16:19
And I didn't know exactly究竟 why I had it, but it was so vivid生动.
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我不知道为什么我这样写,但那景象很鲜明
16:22
I got stuck卡住, and a friend朋友, when she asked if I would go for a walk步行 with her dogs小狗,
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我陷入了困境,一个朋友问我要不要和她去遛狗
16:27
that I said, sure. And about 45 minutes分钟 later后来,
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我说好。四十五分钟后
16:30
walking步行 along沿 the beach海滩, I came来了 across横过 this.
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我在海滩上遇见了一个男人
16:34
And it was a man, a Chinese中文 man,
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一个中国男人
16:36
and he was stacking堆叠 these things, not with glue, not with anything.
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他正堆着这些东西。没有胶水,没有任何工具
16:39
And I asked him, "How is it possible可能 to do this?"
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我问他,这怎么可能?
16:42
And he said, "Well, I guess猜测 with everything in life, there's a place地点 of balance平衡."
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他说,世间每件事 都有一个平衡点
16:46
And this was exactly究竟 the meaning含义 of my story故事 at that point.
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那便是我故事里所要讲的重点
16:51
I had so many许多 examples例子 -- I have so many许多 instances实例 like this, when I'm writing写作 a story故事,
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在我的写作过程中 这样的事时常发生
16:56
and I cannot不能 explain说明 it.
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我无法解释
16:58
Is it because I had the filter过滤 that I have such这样 a strong强大 coincidence巧合
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是否因为我有一种特殊的过滤法
17:02
in writing写作 about these things?
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因为这些强烈的巧合正是我想写的事?
17:05
Or is it a kind of serendipity意外发现 that we cannot不能 explain说明, like the cosmological宇宙 constant不变?
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或是这真是一些我们所不能解释的突发事件 从天而来?
17:12
A big thing that I also think about is accidents事故.
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我也时常想到意外
17:15
And as I said, my mother母亲 did not believe in randomness随机性.
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如我所说 我母亲从不相信偶然
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What is the nature性质 of accidents事故?
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那意外又是什么?
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And how are we going to assign分配 what the responsibility责任 and the causes原因 are,
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对于那些法律以外的事件,我们又该如何处理面对
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outside of a court法庭 of law?
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它们的责任归属?
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I was able能够 to see that in a firsthand第一手 way,
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我有一个切身的经验
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when I went to beautiful美丽 Dong village, in Guizhou贵州, the poorest最穷 province of China中国.
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我曾经到中国最贫穷的贵州省里的侗族
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And I saw this beautiful美丽 place地点. I knew知道 I wanted to come back.
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我看见这个美丽的地方 我知道我想再回来
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And I had a chance机会 to do that, when National国民 Geographic地理 asked me
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当国家地理杂志问我想不想写一些有关中国的文章
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if I wanted to write anything about China中国.
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我知道我的机会来了
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And I said yes, about this village of singing唱歌 people, singing唱歌 minority少数民族.
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我说好,我想写这个唱歌的少数民族
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And they agreed同意, and between之间 the time I saw this place地点 and the next下一个 time I went,
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它们同意了。就在我两次拜访中间
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there was a terrible可怕 accident事故. A man, an old man, fell下跌 asleep睡着,
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一个悲惨的意外发生了。一个老人
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and his quilt被子 dropped下降 in a pan of fire that kept不停 him warm.
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在睡眠中把被子掉在了暖炉上
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60 homes家园 were destroyed销毁, and 40 were damaged破损.
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六十户人家全毁,四十户遭到损坏
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Responsibility责任 was assigned分配 to the family家庭.
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这个家庭得担负责任
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The man's男人的 sons儿子 were banished放逐 to live生活 three kilometers公里 away, in a cowshed牛舍.
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老人的儿子被放逐到三公里外的牛棚
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And, of course课程, as Westerners西方人, we say, "Well, it was an accident事故. That's not fair公平.
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西方人会说:但那是个不过是个意外,这不公平
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It's the son儿子, not the father父亲."
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父债不该子还
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When I go on a story故事, I have to let go of those kinds of beliefs信仰.
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但当我下笔写这个故事的时候,我得放弃那些原来的想法
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It takes a while, but I have to let go of them and just go there, and be there.
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这得花上一些时间,但是我必须克服自己,纯粹得去那里亲身经历。
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And so I was there on three occasions场合, different不同 seasons季节.
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所以我在不同的季节里去了三次
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And I began开始 to sense something different不同 about the history历史,
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在这个贫穷的村庄里 我开始对历史
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and what had happened发生 before, and the nature性质 of life in a very poor较差的 village,
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之前发生的事件 和人生的本质 有了不同的感受
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and what you find as your joys欢乐, and your rituals仪式, your traditions传统, your links链接
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什么是让你感到快乐的,你的仪式, 你的传统,我们和其他家庭产生关系的方式。
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with other families家庭. And I saw how this had a kind of justice正义, in its responsibility责任.
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我开始明白这样的责任归属中,有它自己的正义。
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I was able能够 to find out also about the ceremony仪式 that they were using运用,
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我也开始了解他们使用的仪式。
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a ceremony仪式 they hadn't有没有 used in about 29 years年份. And it was to send发送 some men男人
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一个二十九年没用过的仪式。
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-- a Feng Shui master sent发送 men男人 down to the underworld地狱 on ghost horses马匹.
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让一个风水师送一些人 乘着鬼马进阴间。
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Now you, as Westerners西方人, and I, as Westerners西方人,
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你,身为一个西方人,如我,身为一个西方人,
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would say well, that's superstition迷信. But after being存在 there for a while,
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会说:那不过是迷信。但在那里待了一段时间以后,
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and seeing眼看 the amazing惊人 things that happened发生,
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亲眼见识到这些神奇的事,
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you begin开始 to wonder奇迹 whose谁的 beliefs信仰 are those that are in operation手术 in the world世界,
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你开始想,究竟是谁的信仰,运作在这个世界上,
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determining决定 how things happen发生.
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决定事情该如何发生。
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So I remained保持 with them, and the more I wrote that story故事,
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所以我决定留下来和他们一起 ,我写的越多,
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the more I got into those beliefs信仰, and I think that's important重要 for me
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我便越相信这些信仰,这对我来说是重要的 -
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-- to take on the beliefs信仰, because that is where the story故事 is real真实,
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去真正接受这些信仰,因为这样,故事才能真实,
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and that is where I'm gonna find the answers答案
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那便是我找到的答案
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to how I feel about certain某些 questions问题 that I have in life.
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来解决我人生问题的地方。
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Years年份 go by, of course课程, and the writing写作, it doesn't happen发生 instantly即刻,
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随着时间过去,我也写了很多作品,但这不是在一瞬间发生的,
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as I'm trying to convey传达 it to you here at TEDTED.
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在这里,我想对你们说的是
19:50
The book comes and it goes. When it arrives到达, it is no longer my book.
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这些书来了又走。当它来到的时候,它已不再属于我,
19:55
It is in the hands of readers读者, and they interpret it differently不同.
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而在每个读者手中,他们有不同的解读。
19:59
But I go back to this question of, how do I create创建 something out of nothing?
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但我仍然回到同样的问题,我如何无中生有?
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And how do I create创建 my own拥有 life?
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我如何创造自己的生命?
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And I think it is by questioning疑问,
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我对它提出问题,
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and saying to myself that there are no absolute绝对 truths真理.
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并告诉我自己,它没有一个确定的答案。
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I believe in specifics细节, the specifics细节 of story故事,
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我相信那些具体的事,故事中的细节,
20:19
and the past过去, the specifics细节 of that past过去,
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和往事,往事中的细节,
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and what is happening事件 in the story故事 at that point.
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及当时故事中所发生的事。
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I also believe that in thinking思维 about things --
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我也相信,在我们考量着这些,
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my thinking思维 about luck运气, and fate命运, and coincidences巧合 and accidents事故,
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有关运气 、命运 、巧合和意外,
20:33
God's will, and the synchrony同步 of mysterious神秘 forces军队 --
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天意,和这些神秘力量的互动时,
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I will come to some notion概念 of what that is, how we create创建.
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我将会对我们的创造力有些概念。
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I have to think of my role角色. Where I am in the universe宇宙,
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我思考自己的角色 在宇宙中的原因
20:47
and did somebody intend打算 for me to be that way, or is it just something I came来了 up with?
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是否有人要我成为现在这个样子,或是那完全出于我自己?
20:52
And I also can find that by imagining想象 fully充分, and becoming变得 what is imagined想象 --
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我可以借着想象来找到答案,或成为自己想象的模样
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and yet然而 is in that real真实 world世界, the fictional虚构 world世界.
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在那真实世界,虚构世界,
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And that is how I find particles粒子 of truth真相, not the absolute绝对 truth真相, or the whole整个 truth真相.
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这便是我找到部分真理的办法,不是绝对的,或是完全的真理,
21:11
And they have to be in all possibilities可能性,
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它们仍有许多可能性。
21:13
including包含 those I never considered考虑 before.
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包括那些我从未想到的
21:16
So, there are never complete完成 answers答案.
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从没有完整的答案
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Or rather, if there is an answer回答, it is to remind提醒
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就算有,也是为了提醒我自己。
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myself that there is uncertainty不确定 in everything,
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一切都是变化无常的
21:28
and that is good, because then I will discover发现 something new.
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那是件好事 因为我总能发现新东西
21:33
And if there is a partial局部 answer回答, a more complete完成 answer回答 from me,
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如果有一个片段的答案 一个更完整的答案
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it is to simply只是 imagine想像.
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便是简单的想象
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And to imagine想像 is to put myself in that story故事,
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想象便是将自己放进故事里
21:44
until直到 there was only -- there is a transparency透明度 between之间 me and the story故事 that I am creating创建.
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直到我和我的故事间完全透明 毫无距离
21:50
And that's how I've discovered发现 that if I feel what is in the story故事
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那便是我发现 若我能感觉到故事里的情节
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-- in one story故事 -- then I come the closest最近的, I think,
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那么 我便接近了 懂得了什么是同感
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to knowing会心 what compassion同情 is, to feeling感觉 that compassion同情.
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去完整的感受这同感
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Because for everything,
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因为对每件事来说
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in that question of how things happen发生, it has to do with the feeling感觉.
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当我们问事情是怎么发生的 那便和感受有关
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I have to become成为 the story故事 in order订购 to understand理解 a lot of that.
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我必须成为故事的一部分才能理解
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We've我们已经 come to the end结束 of the talk,
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当我们来到演讲的最后
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and I will reveal揭示 what is in the bag, and it is the muse沉思,
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我将揭露袋子里的是什么,那是灵感
22:24
and it is the things that transform转变 in our lives生活,
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是改变我们人生的事物
22:27
that are wonderful精彩 and stay with us.
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那些美好的 从不离弃的
22:37
There she is.
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它在这里。
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Thank you very much!
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非常感谢!
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(Applause掌声)
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(鼓掌)
Translated by Coco Shen
Reviewed by Kyle Cai

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Amy Tan - Novelist
Amy Tan is the author of such beloved books as The Joy Luck Club, The Kitchen God's Wife and The Hundred Secret Senses.

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Born in the US to immigrant parents from China, Amy Tan rejected her mother's expectations that she become a doctor and concert pianist. She chose to write fiction instead. Her much-loved, best-selling novels have been translated into 35 languages. In 2008, she wrote a libretto for The Bonesetter's Daughter, which premiered that September with the San Francisco Opera.

Tan was the creative consultant for Sagwa, the Emmy-nominated PBS series for children, and she has appeared as herself on The Simpsons. She's the lead rhythm dominatrix, backup singer and second tambourine with the Rock Bottom Remainders, a literary garage band that has raised more than a million dollars for literacy programs.

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