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Amy Tan - Novelist
Amy Tan is the author of such beloved books as The Joy Luck Club, The Kitchen God's Wife and The Hundred Secret Senses.

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Born in the US to immigrant parents from China, Amy Tan rejected her mother's expectations that she become a doctor and concert pianist. She chose to write fiction instead. Her much-loved, best-selling novels have been translated into 35 languages. In 2008, she wrote a libretto for The Bonesetter's Daughter, which premiered that September with the San Francisco Opera.

Tan was the creative consultant for Sagwa, the Emmy-nominated PBS series for children, and she has appeared as herself on The Simpsons. She's the lead rhythm dominatrix, backup singer and second tambourine with the Rock Bottom Remainders, a literary garage band that has raised more than a million dollars for literacy programs.

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Amy Tan: Where does creativity hide?

譚恩美(Amy Tan)談創意

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小說家譚恩美(Amy Tan)深究創意過程,找出刺激她進化的動因
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The Value of Nothing: Out of Nothing Comes Something.
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無的價值:無中可以生有
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That was an essay文章 I wrote when I was 11 years年份 old
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這是我在十一歲時寫的文章題目
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and I got a B+. (Laughter笑聲)
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我得到了B+ (笑)
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What I'm going to talk about: nothing out of something, and how we create創建.
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我要談的就是:我們要怎麼樣無中生有
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And I'm gonna try and do that within
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我要試著在大會規定的
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the 18-minute-分鐘 time span跨度 that we were told to stay within,
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18分鐘內完成這件事
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and to follow跟隨 the TEDTED commandments戒律:
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並且遵守TED的嚴格戒律
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that is, actually其實, something that creates創建
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也就是實際上造成
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a near-death接近死亡 experience經驗,
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某種瀕死的體驗
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but near-death接近死亡 is good for creativity創造力.
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不過「瀕死」對創意是有益的
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(Laughter笑聲) OK.
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(笑) 好
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So, I also want to explain說明,
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所以我也會解釋
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because Dave戴夫 Eggers埃格斯 said he was going to heckle詰問 me
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因為戴夫艾格思說他會猛烈詰問我
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if I said anything that was a lie謊言, or not true真正 to universal普遍 creativity創造力.
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如果我說了任何謊話,或是不符合普遍的創意條件
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And I've doneDONE it this way for half the audience聽眾, who is scientific科學.
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而且是對著將近一半是科學家的觀眾這麼說
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When I say we, I don't mean you, necessarily一定;
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當我說我們的時候,我指的不必然包括你們
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I mean me, and my right brain, my left brain
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我指的是我跟我的右腦跟左腦
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and the one that's in between之間 that is the censor審查
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而左右腦之間的是審查器
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and tells告訴 me what I'm saying is wrong錯誤.
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它告訴我我說錯了什麼
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And I'm going do that also by looking at
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我也會一併審視
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what I think is part部分 of my creative創作的 process處理,
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我認為屬於我創意過程中的一部份
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which哪一個 includes包括 a number of things that happened發生, actually其實 --
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包括許多發生過的事情,而事實上
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the nothing started開始 even earlier than the moment時刻
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沒有別的事情在這之前發生
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in which哪一個 I'm creating創建 something new.
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我正在創造新的東西
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And that includes包括 nature性質, and nurture培育,
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包括先天的跟後天的
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and what I refer參考 to as nightmares噩夢.
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我指得是噩夢
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Now in the nature性質 area, we look at whether是否 or not
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先天的部份,我們要看看
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we are innately天生 equipped裝備 with something, perhaps也許
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我們自身是否俱備某種事物,或許...
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in our brains大腦, some abnormal不正常 chromosome染色體
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在我們的腦裡,一些不正常的染色體
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that causes原因 this muse-like繆斯般的 effect影響.
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會引發像是靈感的效果
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And some people would say that we're born天生 with it in some other means手段.
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有些人說我們天生就有靈感
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And others其他, like my mother母親,
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其他人,像是我媽
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would say that I get my material材料 from past過去 lives生活.
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會說我是從過去的的生活得到靈感
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Some people would also say that creativity創造力
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有些人也會說創意其實是
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may可能 be a function功能 of some other neurological神經 quirk俏皮話 --
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神經突然接錯線
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van麵包車 Gogh梵高 syndrome綜合徵 -- that you have a little bit of, you know, psychosis精神病, or depression蕭條.
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某種梵谷症狀--當你有點,你知道,精神不正常,或是陷入低潮
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I do have to say, somebody -- I read recently最近
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我得說,有種人--我最近在書上讀到
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that van麵包車 Gogh梵高 wasn't really necessarily一定 psychotic精神病,
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梵谷不見得是精神異常
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that he might威力 have had temporal lobe seizures癲癇發作,
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他可能有癲癇問題
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and that might威力 have caused造成 his spurt of creativity創造力, and I don't --
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那可能激發他創意湧現,而我--
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I suppose假設 it does something in some part部分 of your brain.
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假設那會在你的腦中某個部位引發某作用
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And I will mention提到 that I actually其實 developed發達
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我也會提到事實上我在幾年前
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temporal lobe seizures癲癇發作 a number of years年份 ago,
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也有癲癇問題
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but it was during the time I was writing寫作 my last book,
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就發生在我寫上一本書的時候
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and some people say that book is quite相當 different不同.
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有些人就說那本書讀起來挺不一樣
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I think that part部分 of it also begins開始 with a sense of identity身分 crisis危機:
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我認為其中一部份起因於認同的危機感:
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you know, who am I, why am I this particular特定 person,
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我是誰啊,我怎麼會那麼與眾不同,
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why am I not black黑色 like everybody每個人 else其他?
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我到底是誰?為什麼膚色沒跟其他同學一樣黑?
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And sometimes有時 you're equipped裝備 with skills技能,
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有時候,你就是具備一些技能
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but they may可能 not be the kind of skills技能 that enable啟用 creativity創造力.
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但不是可以帶來創意的技能
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I used to draw. I thought I would be an artist藝術家.
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我以前還會畫畫。我曾以為我會成為一個畫家
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And I had a miniature微型 poodle獅子狗.
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這是我畫的迷你貴賓狗
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And it wasn't bad, but it wasn't really creative創作的.
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似乎還不壞,但實在算不上什麼創意
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Because all I could really do was represent代表 in a very one-on-one一對一 way.
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因為我所能做的不過是把它們一個個畫下來
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And I have a sense that I probably大概 copied複製 this from a book.
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而且我想我可能還是從一本書上抄下來的
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And then, I also wasn't really shining閃亮的 in a certain某些 area that I wanted to be,
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當時我在我真正想要展現的領域以乎並不出色
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and you know, you look at those scores分數, and it wasn't bad,
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你知道,你看著那些成績,是不差
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but it was not certainly當然 predictive預測 that I would one day make
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但也絕不可能讓我預測到
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my living活的 out of the artful arrangement安排 of words.
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有天我竟然能用寫作來謀生
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Also, one of the principles原則 of creativity創造力 is to have a little childhood童年 trauma外傷.
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創意的其中一項原則是擁有童年的心理創傷
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And I had the usual通常 kind that I think a lot of people had,
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我想我有的創傷和一般人一樣
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and that is that, you know, I had expectations期望 placed放置 on me.
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你懂的,來自父母對子女過分熱切的期望
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That figure數字 right there, by the way,
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那具人體模型,順帶一提
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figure數字 right there was a toy玩具 given特定 to me when I was but nine years年份 old,
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是我在九歲的時候得到的一件玩具
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and it was to help me become成為 a doctor醫生 from a very early age年齡.
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它是從小培養我想成為醫生的物品
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I have some ones那些 that were long lasting持久: from the age年齡 of five to 15,
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還有一些持續比較久的心理創傷:從五到十五歲
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this was supposed應該 to be my side occupation佔用,
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成為一個鋼琴家理應變成我的第二職業
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and it led to a sense of failure失敗.
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但最終它只變成我感覺失敗的來源
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But actually其實, there was something quite相當 real真實 in my life
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但事實上在我人生中是有一些真實的心理創傷
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that happened發生 when I was about 14.
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發生在我十四歲的時候
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And it was discovered發現 that my brother哥哥, in 1967, and then my father父親,
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就是發現我的兄弟,在1967年,然後我的父親
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six months個月 later後來, had brain tumors腫瘤.
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六個月以後,雙雙長了腦瘤
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And my mother母親 believed相信 that something had gone走了 wrong錯誤,
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我母親相信有些事情出錯了
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and she was gonna find out what it was, and she was gonna fix固定 it.
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她想找出問題,然後解決它
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My father父親 was a Baptist浸禮者 minister部長, and he believed相信 in miracles奇蹟,
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我父親是個牧師,他相信神蹟
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and that God's will would take care關心 of that.
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他相信神會解決那些問題
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But, of course課程, they ended結束 up dying垂死, six months個月 apart距離.
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但當然,相隔六個月,他們都過世了
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And after that, my mother母親 believed相信 that it was fate命運, or curses詛咒
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在那之後,我母親相信那是命運,是詛咒
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-- she went looking through通過 all the reasons原因 in the universe宇宙
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她找遍了宇宙間所有可能的理由
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why this would have happened發生.
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來解釋為什麼這件事會發生
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Everything except randomness隨機性. She did not believe in randomness隨機性.
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除了偶然以外所有的理由。她不相信偶然
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There was a reason原因 for everything.
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每件事都有原因
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And one of the reasons原因, she thought, was that her mother母親,
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她相信其中一件原因出自於她的母親
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who had died死亡 when she was very young年輕, was angry憤怒 at her.
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她認為早年過世的母親一直怨恨她
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And so, I had this notion概念 of death死亡 all around me,
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所以我總被死亡的陰影籠罩著
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because my mother母親 also believed相信 that I would be next下一個, and she would be next下一個.
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因為我母親還相信我會是下一個,或是她會是下一個
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And when you are faced面對 with the prospect展望 of death死亡 very soon不久,
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當你面對死亡的時候
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you begin開始 to think very much about everything.
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你會開始認真思考每件事情
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You become成為 very creative創作的, in a survival生存 sense.
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從一種為了生存的角度來說,你開始非常有創造力,
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And this, then, led to my big questions問題.
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這讓我想到一個大問題
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And they're the same相同 ones那些 that I have today今天.
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一些我今日仍然在想的問題
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And they are: why do things happen發生, and how do things happen發生?
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為什麼事情會發生,它們是怎麼發生的?
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And the one my mother母親 asked: how do I make things happen發生?
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和我母親問的那句:我如何讓這些事情發生的?
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It's a wonderful精彩 way to look at these questions問題, when you write a story故事.
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在撰寫故事的時候,這都是一些很重要的問題
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Because, after all, in that framework骨架, between之間 page one and 300,
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因為你必須在三百頁的篇幅中回答這些問題:
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you have to answer回答 this question of why things happen發生, how things happen發生,
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為什麼事情會這樣發生,它是怎麼發生的
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in what order訂購 they happen發生. What are the influences影響?
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事情發生的順序和影響
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How do I, as the narrator敘述者, as the writer作家, also influence影響 that?
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我,身為一個敍述者,一個作者,對這個故事又有什麼影響?
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And it's also one that, I think, many許多 of our scientists科學家們 have been asking.
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我想這也是所有科學家所問的問題
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It's a kind of cosmology宇宙學, and I have to develop發展 a cosmology宇宙學 of my own擁有 universe宇宙,
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我在我的世界中發展出自己的宇宙觀
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as the creator創造者 of that universe宇宙.
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像一個宇宙的創造者。
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And you see, there's a lot of back and forth向前
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這中間有許多的反覆
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in trying to make that happen發生, trying to figure數字 it out
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嘗試著創造,嘗試著理出頭緒
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-- years年份 and years年份, oftentimes通常情況下.
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年復一年,總是如此
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So, when I look at creativity創造力, I also think that it is this sense or this inability無力
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當我想到創作力的時候,我也認為這是因為我無法
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to repress, my looking at associations協會 in practically幾乎 anything in life.
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壓抑對日常生活中幾乎每件事的看法。
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And I got a lot of them during what's been going on
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我在許多事件發生時做觀察
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throughout始終 this conference會議,
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在這個大會中,
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almost幾乎 everything that's been going on.
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幾乎是所有發生的事情。
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And so I'm going to use, as the metaphor隱喻, this association協會:
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讓我在這裡用量子力學做比喻:
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quantum量子 mechanics機械學, which哪一個 I really don't understand理解,
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雖然我並不理解量子力學,
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but I'm still gonna use it as the process處理
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但我將以它做為一種過程
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for explaining說明 how it is the metaphor隱喻.
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來解釋為何它是個比喻。
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So, in quantum量子 mechanics機械學, of course課程, you have dark黑暗 energy能源 and dark黑暗 matter.
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在量子力學中,有著暗能量和暗物質。
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And it's the same相同 thing in looking at these questions問題 of how things happen發生.
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就像我們嘗試解釋事情為何會發生的時候
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There's a lot of unknown未知, and you often經常 don't know what it is except by its absence缺席.
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有許多未知,你不知道那是什麼,只知道它不在
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But when you make those associations協會,
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但當你嘗試找出關聯性時
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you want them to come together一起 in a kind of synergy協同效應 in the story故事,
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當你希望能在故事中把事件連接起來時而產生綜效時
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and what you're finding發現 is what matters事項. The meaning含義.
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你突然發現了事物的核心。它的意義。
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And that's what I look for in my work, a personal個人 meaning含義.
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這就是我在我的作品中所想要找尋的,對我而言的意義。
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There is also the uncertainty不確定 principle原理, which哪一個 is part部分 of quantum量子 mechanics機械學,
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在量子力學中還有測不準原理,
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as I understand理解 it. (Laughter笑聲)
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至少我想是有的。(笑)
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And this happens發生 constantly經常 in the writing寫作.
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這也時常發生在寫作中。
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And there's the terrible可怕 and dreaded可怕的 observer觀察者 effect影響,
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還有一種可怕的觀者效應,
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in which哪一個 you're looking for something, and
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當你在找尋一些事情的時候,
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you know, things are happening事件 simultaneously同時,
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那些同時發生的事情,
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and you're looking at it in a different不同 way,
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你嘗試用不同角度去看它,
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and you're trying to really look for the about-ness關於岬,
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你嘗試找出它和其他事物的關聯性,
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or what is this story故事 about. And if you try too hard,
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或是這個故事和什麼有關。如果你過分強求,
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then you will only write the about.
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最後你寫下的只是「關聯」。
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You won't慣於 discover發現 anything.
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卻什麼也沒發現。
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And what you were supposed應該 to find,
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而你應該找到的,
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what you hoped希望 to find in some serendipitous偶然 way,
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你真正希望能找到的,在無意中,
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is no longer there.
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卻已經不在了。
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Now, I don't want to ignore忽視
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我並不想忽略
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the other side of what happens發生 in our universe宇宙,
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在宇宙另一邊發生的事,
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like many許多 of our scientists科學家們 have.
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像一些科學家所做的一樣。
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And so, I am going to just throw in string theory理論 here,
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所以在這裡我也要順便談談弦理論,
08:36
and just say that creative創作的 people are multidimensional多維,
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證明創意人不僅是多面向的,
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and there are 11 levels水平, I think, of anxiety焦慮.
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還有著十一種層次的焦慮。
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(Laughter笑聲) And they all operate操作 at the same相同 time.
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(笑)而且它們全部一起發生。
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There is also a big question of ambiguity歧義.
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再來還有模棱兩可的問題。
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And I would link鏈接 that to something called the cosmological宇宙 constant不變.
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像是你們說的宇宙常數。
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And you don't know what is operating操作, but something is operating操作 there.
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你不明白什麼在運作,但有些事情在運作。
08:58
And ambiguity歧義, to me, is very uncomfortable不舒服
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模棱兩可是一種非常不舒服的感覺,對我的人生來說
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in my life, and I have it. Moral道德 ambiguity歧義.
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但它仍然存在。道德的不確定性
09:05
It is constantly經常 there. And, just as an example,
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總是存在著。舉例來說,
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this is one that recently最近 came來了 to me.
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最近剛發生了一件事。
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It was something I read in an editorial社論 by a woman女人
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我讀到一篇由女性寫的報紙的社論
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who was talking about the war戰爭 in Iraq伊拉克. And she said,
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內容是關於伊拉克戰爭時。她說,
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"Save保存 a man from drowning溺死, you are responsible主管 to him for life."
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「救一個溺水者,你便得為他的一生負責。」
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A very famous著名 Chinese中文 saying, she said.
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她說這是一句很有名的中國諺語
09:24
And that means手段 because we went into Iraq伊拉克, we should stay there
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意味著既然我們進入了伊拉克,我們便應該長駐
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until直到 things were solved解決了. You know, maybe even 100 years年份.
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直到事情解決。你知道,就算要上百年
09:32
So, there was another另一個 one that I came來了 across橫過,
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還有另一個例子
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and it's "saving保存 fish from drowning溺死."
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就是「拯救溺水的魚」
09:40
And it's what Buddhist佛教徒 fishermen漁民 say,
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來自信仰佛教的漁夫們
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because they're not supposed應該 to kill anything.
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佛教徒基本上不該殺生
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And they also have to make a living活的, and people need to be fed美聯儲.
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但漁夫卻仍得謀生,養家
09:48
So their way of rationalizing合理化 that is they are saving保存 the fish from drowning溺死,
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為了將殺生合理化,他們聲稱自己是在救溺水的魚
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and unfortunately不幸, in the process處理 the fish die.
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但魚不幸地在過程中死了。
09:55
Now, what's encapsulated封裝 in both these drowning溺死 metaphors隱喻
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暗藏在這兩個溺水故事中的比喻是
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-- actually其實, one of them is my mother's母親 interpretation解釋,
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其中一個說法來自我母親
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and it is a famous著名 Chinese中文 saying, because she said it to me:
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因為這是她對我說這是中國人常說的
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"save保存 a man from drowning溺死, you are responsible主管 to him for life."
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「救一個溺水者,你便得為他的一生負責。」
10:09
And it was a warning警告 -- don't get involved參與 in other people's人們 business商業,
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那是一種警告:別管別人的閒事
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or you're going to get stuck卡住.
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免得被纏上
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OK. I think if somebody really was drowning溺死, she'd save保存 them.
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但我想如果真的有人溺水的話,她還是會救他們的
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But, both of these sayings語錄 -- saving保存 a fish from drowning溺死,
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但這兩種說法,不管是救溺水的魚,
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or saving保存 a man from drowning溺死 -- to me they had to do with intentions意圖.
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還是溺水的人,這取決與你的意圖
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And all of us in life, when we see a situation情況, we have a response響應.
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我們在人生中,都得對我們身邊發生的事情做出反應
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And then we have intentions意圖.
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懷抱著各自的意圖
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There's an ambiguity歧義 of what that should be that we should do,
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在我們應該做的,和最後真正做了的兩者之間
10:39
and then we do something.
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有一些模棱兩可之處
10:41
And the results結果 of that may可能 not match比賽 what our intentions意圖 had been.
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而結果也不一定符合我們原本的意圖
10:44
Maybe things go wrong錯誤. And so, after that, what are our responsibilities責任?
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說不定事情搞砸了。若當如此,我們的責任又在哪?
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What are we supposed應該 to do?
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我們該怎麼做?
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Do we stay in for life,
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我們該留下來負責
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or do we do something else其他 and justify辯解 and say, well, my intentions意圖 were good,
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還是嘗試合理化我們的行為,說,我的本意是好的
10:58
and therefore因此 I cannot不能 be held保持 responsible主管 for all of it?
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所以我不應當負全責?
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That is the ambiguity歧義 in my life
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這便是我人生中很難接受的模棱兩可
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that really disturbed不安 me, and led me to write a book called
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甚至讓我因此寫了本書,就叫做
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"Saving保存 Fish From Drowning溺死."
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拯救溺水的魚
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I saw examples例子 of that. Once一旦 I identified確定 this question, it was all over the place地點.
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一旦你意識到這個問題,就發現它無所不在
11:19
I got these hints提示 everywhere到處.
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在哪裡都能看到它的痕跡
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And then, in a way, I knew知道 that they had always been there.
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同時我也知道,它們一直都在那裡。
11:24
And then writing寫作, that's what happens發生. I get these hints提示, these clues線索,
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在寫作上,我看見這些暗示,這些線索
11:27
and I realize實現 that they've他們已經 been obvious明顯, and yet然而 they have not been.
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我意識到它們一直都在那,但又隱身不見
11:34
And what I need, in effect影響, is a focus焦點.
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我需要的是焦點
11:38
And when I have the question, it is a focus焦點.
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當我有一個問題要問的時候,它就是一個焦點
11:40
And all these things that seem似乎 to be flotsam廢料 and jetsam廢棄的貨物 in life actually其實 go through通過
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那些在人生中的災難都會過去
11:45
that question, and what happens發生 is those particular特定 things become成為 relevant相應.
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那個問題,和在那些事件中所發生的事都是有關聯的
11:50
And it seems似乎 like it's happening事件 all the time.
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而且它無處不在,不停發生
11:52
You think there's a sort分類 of coincidence巧合 going on, a serendipity意外發現,
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你以為它不過是偶發事件,或是碰巧發生的
11:55
in which哪一個 you're getting得到 all this help from the universe宇宙.
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或許是來自宇宙的幫忙
11:58
And it may可能 also be explained解釋 that now you have a focus焦點.
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也可以解釋成,心中有了焦點以後
12:01
And you are noticing注意到 it more often經常.
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你更能發現它的存在
12:05
But you apply應用 this.
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當你開始應用它
12:08
You begin開始 to look at things having to do with your tensions緊張.
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你開始檢視那些令你緊張的事情
12:11
Your brother哥哥, who's誰是 fallen墮落 in trouble麻煩, do you take care關心 of him?
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當你的兄弟遇上了麻煩,你該幫助他嗎?
12:14
Why or why not?
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為什麼要,又為什麼不要?
12:16
It may可能 be something that is perhaps也許 more serious嚴重
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它或許比你想像的更為嚴肅
12:20
-- as I said, human人的 rights權利 in Burma緬甸.
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像緬甸的人權問題
12:23
I was thinking思維 that I shouldn't不能 go because somebody said, if I did, it would show顯示
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我本來想著我是否不應該去,因為有人告訴我
12:27
that I approved批准 of the military軍事 regime政權 there.
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我在那裡出現意味著我支持當地的軍權統治
12:30
And then, after a while, I had to ask myself,
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但一陣子以後,我自問
12:33
"Why do we take on knowledge知識, why do we take on assumptions假設
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「為什麼我們要在意他人對我們的想法,
12:35
that other people have given特定 us?"
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或認知?」
12:38
And it was the same相同 thing that I felt when I was growing生長 up,
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這和我在成長過程中的感覺很像
12:41
and was hearing聽力 these rules規則 of moral道德 conduct進行 from my father父親,
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我身為牧師的父親
12:46
who was a Baptist浸禮者 minister部長.
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給我們的所有規則和道德指標
12:48
So I decided決定 that I would go to Burma緬甸 for my own擁有 intentions意圖,
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最後我決定照我自己的想法去緬甸
12:53
and still didn't know that if I went there,
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而我仍然不知道,到了那裡
12:56
what the result結果 of that would be, if I wrote a book --
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寫一本書,結果又會如何
12:59
and I just would have to face面對 that later後來, when the time came來了.
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但我只能等到時機出現的時候,再來面對這些問題
13:03
We are all concerned關心 with things that we see in the world世界 that we are aware知道的 of.
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我們總是在意這世界上我們所感知的事物
13:08
We come to this point and say, what do I as an individual個人 do?
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我們對自己說:我能做什麼?
13:13
Not all of us can go to Africa非洲, or work at hospitals醫院,
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不是每個人都可以去非洲,或是在醫院工作
13:17
so what do we do, if we have this moral道德 response響應, this feeling感覺?
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那當我們產生這個道德感,我們該做什麼?
13:24
Also, I think one of the biggest最大 things we are all looking at,
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我想今日我們都在關注的一個重要議題是
13:27
and we talked about today今天, is genocide種族滅絕.
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種族滅絕
13:30
This leads引線 to this question.
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我們再次回到同樣的問題
13:33
When I look at all these things that are morally道德 ambiguous曖昧 and uncomfortable不舒服,
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當我遇見這些在道德上模棱兩可,讓我感覺不舒服的事件
13:38
and I consider考慮 what my intentions意圖 should be,
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我的心態又是如何?
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I realize實現 it goes back to this identity身分 question that I had when I was a child兒童
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我認知到這讓我再次回到孩提時所面臨的身份認同議題
13:45
-- and why am I here, and what is the meaning含義 of my life,
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為什麼我在這裡,人生的意義是什麼
13:48
and what is my place地點 in the universe宇宙?
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我在宇宙間的位置是什麼?
13:50
It seems似乎 so obvious明顯, and yet然而 it is not.
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這看起來似乎很明顯,但一點也不
13:53
We all hate討厭 moral道德 ambiguity歧義 in some sense,
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我們都不喜歡道德上的不確定性
13:58
and yet然而 it is also absolutely絕對 necessary必要.
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但這種不確定感確是絕對必要的
14:02
In writing寫作 a story故事, it is the place地點 where I begin開始.
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在我寫作的時候,這便是我開始的地方
14:06
Sometimes有時 I get help from the universe宇宙, it seems似乎.
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有時候我似乎得到大宇宙的協助
14:10
My mother母親 would say it was the ghost of my grandmother祖母 from the very first book,
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我母親說從第一本書開始,靈感就來自我祖母的鬼魂
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because it seemed似乎 I knew知道 things I was not supposed應該 to know.
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因為我似乎知道許多我不應該知道的事
14:16
Instead代替 of writing寫作 that the grandmother祖母 died死亡 accidentally偶然,
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我沒有描寫我的祖母
14:19
from an overdose過量 of opium鴉片, while having too much of a good time,
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是因為吃了過量的鴉片而意外過世的
14:22
I actually其實 put down in the story故事 that the woman女人 killed殺害 herself她自己,
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而在故事裡描寫那女人自殺了
14:27
and that actually其實 was the way it happened發生.
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那卻才是真實發生的事
14:29
And my mother母親 decided決定 that that information信息 must必須 have come from my grandmother祖母.
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我母親認為這些資訊一定來自我祖母的鬼魂。
14:34
There are also things, quite相當 uncanny神秘的,
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除此以外,還有一些離奇的事件
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which哪一個 bring帶來 me information信息 that will help me in the writing寫作 of the book.
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在寫作時為我帶來了不同的寫作資料
14:41
In this case案件, I was writing寫作 a story故事
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當時我正在寫一個古代的故事
14:43
that included包括 some kind of detail詳情, period of history歷史, a certain某些 location位置.
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書中包括那個年代的歷史和地理資料
14:47
And I needed需要 to find something historically歷史 that would match比賽 that.
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而我需要找到這些歷史來補足故事中的細節
14:50
And I took down this book, and I --
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我從書架上拿下這本書
14:52
first page that I flipped翻轉 it to was exactly究竟 the setting設置, and the time period,
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我翻開的第一頁便是我故事裡的時代和地點
14:58
and the kind of character字符 I needed需要 -- was the Taiping太平 rebellion暴動,
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和我在描寫太平天國時所需要的人物
15:01
happening事件 in the area near Guilin桂林, outside of that,
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在一個接近桂林的地方
15:05
and a character字符 who thought he was the son兒子 of God.
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和一個認為他是神的兒子的人物。
15:08
You wonder奇蹟, are these things random隨機 chance機會?
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你不禁想,這一切都是偶然的嗎?
15:11
Well, what is random隨機? What is chance機會? What is luck運氣?
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但偶然是什麼?機會是什麼?運氣又是什麼?
15:15
What are things that you get from the universe宇宙 that you can't really explain說明?
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那些從天而降的靈感又是什麼?
15:19
And that goes into the story故事, too.
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這也成為故事的一部分
15:21
These are the things I constantly經常 think about from day to day.
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這些是我每天都在思考的事情
15:24
Especially特別 when good things happen發生,
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特別是好事發生時,
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and, in particular特定, when bad things happen發生.
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有時候則是當壞事發生時。
15:30
But I do think there's a kind of serendipity意外發現,
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但我相信的確存在巧合
15:32
and I do want to know what those elements分子 are,
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我想要知道那些元素是什麼,
15:35
so I can thank them, and also try to find them in my life.
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這樣我才能謝謝他們,並且試著在生命中尋找
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Because, again, I think that when I am aware知道的 of them, more of them happen發生.
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因為我相信當我察覺他們的時候,就越會發生
15:44
Another另一個 chance機會 encounter遭遇 is when I went to a place地點
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另一個機遇是當我到某個地方
15:48
-- I just was with some friends朋友, and we drove開車 randomly隨機 to a different不同 place地點,
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我只是跟一些朋友一起,沒目的地開到某個地方
15:52
and we ended結束 up in this non-tourist非旅遊 location位置,
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我們停在遊客不會到的地點
15:56
a beautiful美麗 village, pristine質樸.
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美麗的懷舊小村莊
15:58
And we walked three valleys山谷 beyond,
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我們走過三座溪谷
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and the third第三 valley, there was something quite相當 mysterious神秘 and ominous不祥的,
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在第三個溪谷,我有些神秘的,不舒服的預感
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a discomfort不舒服 I felt. And then I knew知道 that had to be [the] setting設置 of my book.
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我知道這將成為我故事的場景。
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And in writing寫作 one of the scenes場景, it happened發生 in that third第三 valley.
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故事裡的其中一幕便發生在第三個山谷
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For some reason原因 I wrote about cairns凱恩斯 -- stacks of rocks岩石 -- that a man was building建造.
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其中一幕我寫到,一個男人,正擺著石堆
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And I didn't know exactly究竟 why I had it, but it was so vivid生動.
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我不知道為什麼我這樣寫,但那景象很鮮明
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I got stuck卡住, and a friend朋友, when she asked if I would go for a walk步行 with her dogs小狗,
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我陷入了困境,一個朋友問我要不要和她去遛狗
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that I said, sure. And about 45 minutes分鐘 later後來,
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我說好。四十五分鐘後
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walking步行 along沿 the beach海灘, I came來了 across橫過 this.
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我在海灘上遇見了一個男子
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And it was a man, a Chinese中文 man,
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一個中國男子
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and he was stacking堆疊 these things, not with glue, not with anything.
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他正堆著這些東西。沒有膠水,沒有任何工具
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And I asked him, "How is it possible可能 to do this?"
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我問他,這怎麼可能?
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And he said, "Well, I guess猜測 with everything in life, there's a place地點 of balance平衡."
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他說,世間每件事 都有一個平衡點
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And this was exactly究竟 the meaning含義 of my story故事 at that point.
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那便是我故事裡所要講的重點
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I had so many許多 examples例子 -- I have so many許多 instances實例 like this, when I'm writing寫作 a story故事,
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在我的寫作過程中 這樣的事時常發生
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and I cannot不能 explain說明 it.
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我無法解釋
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Is it because I had the filter過濾 that I have such這樣 a strong強大 coincidence巧合
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是否因為我有一種特殊的過濾法
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in writing寫作 about these things?
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因為這些強烈的巧合正是我想寫的事?
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Or is it a kind of serendipity意外發現 that we cannot不能 explain說明, like the cosmological宇宙 constant不變?
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或是這真是一些我們所不能解釋的突發事件 從天而來?
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A big thing that I also think about is accidents事故.
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我也時常想到意外
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And as I said, my mother母親 did not believe in randomness隨機性.
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如我所說 我母親從不相信偶然
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What is the nature性質 of accidents事故?
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那意外又是什麼?
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And how are we going to assign分配 what the responsibility責任 and the causes原因 are,
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對於那些法律以外的事件,我們又該如何處理面對
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outside of a court法庭 of law?
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它們的責任歸屬?
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I was able能夠 to see that in a firsthand第一手 way,
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我有一個切身的經驗
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when I went to beautiful美麗 Dong village, in Guizhou貴州, the poorest最窮 province of China中國.
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我曾經到中國最貧窮的貴州省裡的侗族
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And I saw this beautiful美麗 place地點. I knew知道 I wanted to come back.
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我看見這個美麗的地方 我知道我想再回來
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And I had a chance機會 to do that, when National國民 Geographic地理 asked me
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當國家地理雜誌問我想不想寫一些有關中國的文章
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if I wanted to write anything about China中國.
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我知道我的機會來了
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And I said yes, about this village of singing唱歌 people, singing唱歌 minority少數民族.
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我說好,我想寫這個唱歌的少數民族
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And they agreed約定, and between之間 the time I saw this place地點 and the next下一個 time I went,
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它們同意了。就在我兩次拜訪中間
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there was a terrible可怕 accident事故. A man, an old man, fell下跌 asleep睡著,
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一個悲慘的意外發生了。一個老人
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and his quilt被子 dropped下降 in a pan of fire that kept不停 him warm.
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在睡眠中把被子掉在了暖爐上
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60 homes家園 were destroyed銷毀, and 40 were damaged破損.
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六十戶人家全毀,四十戶遭到損壞
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Responsibility責任 was assigned分配 to the family家庭.
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這個家庭被要求得擔負責任
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The man's男人的 sons兒子 were banished放逐 to live生活 three kilometers公里 away, in a cowshed牛舍.
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老人的兒子被放逐到三公里外的牛棚
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And, of course課程, as Westerners西方人, we say, "Well, it was an accident事故. That's not fair公平.
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西方人會說:但那是個不過是個意外,這不公平
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It's the son兒子, not the father父親."
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父債不該子還
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When I go on a story故事, I have to let go of those kinds of beliefs信仰.
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但當我下筆寫這個故事的時候,我得放棄那些原來的想法
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It takes a while, but I have to let go of them and just go there, and be there.
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這得花上一些時間,但是我必須克服自己,純粹得去那裡親身經歷。
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And so I was there on three occasions場合, different不同 seasons季節.
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所以我在不同的季節裡去了三次
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And I began開始 to sense something different不同 about the history歷史,
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在這個貧窮的村莊裡 我開始對歷史
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and what had happened發生 before, and the nature性質 of life in a very poor較差的 village,
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之前發生的事件 和人生的本質 有了不同的感受
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and what you find as your joys歡樂, and your rituals儀式, your traditions傳統, your links鏈接
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什麼是讓你感到快樂的,你的儀式, 你的傳統,我們和其他家庭產生關係的方式。
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with other families家庭. And I saw how this had a kind of justice正義, in its responsibility責任.
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我開始明白這樣的責任歸屬中,有它自己的正義。
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I was able能夠 to find out also about the ceremony儀式 that they were using運用,
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我也開始瞭解他們使用的儀式。
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a ceremony儀式 they hadn't有沒有 used in about 29 years年份. And it was to send發送 some men男人
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一個二十九年沒用過的儀式。
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-- a Feng Shui master sent發送 men男人 down to the underworld地獄 on ghost horses馬匹.
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讓一個風水師送一些人 乘著鬼馬進陰間。
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Now you, as Westerners西方人, and I, as Westerners西方人,
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你,身為一個西方人,如我,身為一個西方人,
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would say well, that's superstition迷信. But after being存在 there for a while,
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會說:那不過是迷信。但在那裡待了一段時間以後,
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and seeing眼看 the amazing驚人 things that happened發生,
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親眼見識到這些神奇的事,
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you begin開始 to wonder奇蹟 whose誰的 beliefs信仰 are those that are in operation手術 in the world世界,
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你開始想,究竟是誰的信仰,運作在這個世界上,
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determining決定 how things happen發生.
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決定事情該如何發生。
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So I remained保持 with them, and the more I wrote that story故事,
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所以我決定留下來和他們一起 ,我寫的越多,
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the more I got into those beliefs信仰, and I think that's important重要 for me
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我便越相信這些信仰,這對我來說是重要的
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-- to take on the beliefs信仰, because that is where the story故事 is real真實,
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--去真正接受這些信仰,因為這樣,故事才能真實,
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and that is where I'm gonna find the answers答案
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那便是我找到的答案
19:38
to how I feel about certain某些 questions問題 that I have in life.
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來解決我人生問題的地方。
19:43
Years年份 go by, of course課程, and the writing寫作, it doesn't happen發生 instantly即刻,
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隨著時間過去,我也寫了很多作品,但這不是在一瞬間發生的,
19:46
as I'm trying to convey傳達 it to you here at TEDTED.
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在這裡,我想對你們說的是
19:50
The book comes and it goes. When it arrives到達, it is no longer my book.
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書來了又走。當它來到的時候,它已不再屬於我,
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It is in the hands of readers讀者, and they interpret it differently不同.
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而在每個讀者手中,他們有不同的解讀。
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But I go back to this question of, how do I create創建 something out of nothing?
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但我仍然回到同樣的問題,我如何無中生有?
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And how do I create創建 my own擁有 life?
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我如何創造自己的生命?
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And I think it is by questioning疑問,
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藉由對它提出問題,
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and saying to myself that there are no absolute絕對 truths真理.
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並告訴我自己,世上沒有絕對真實。
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I believe in specifics細節, the specifics細節 of story故事,
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我相信那些具體的事,故事中的細節,
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and the past過去, the specifics細節 of that past過去,
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和往事,往事中的細節,
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and what is happening事件 in the story故事 at that point.
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及當時故事中所發生的事。
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I also believe that in thinking思維 about things --
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我也相信,在我們考量著這些,
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my thinking思維 about luck運氣, and fate命運, and coincidences巧合 and accidents事故,
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有關運氣 、命運 、巧合和意外,
20:33
God's will, and the synchrony同步 of mysterious神秘 forces軍隊 --
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天意,和這些神秘力量的互動時,
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I will come to some notion概念 of what that is, how we create創建.
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我將會對我們的創造力有些概念。
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I have to think of my role角色. Where I am in the universe宇宙,
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我思考自己的角色 在宇宙中的原因
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and did somebody intend打算 for me to be that way, or is it just something I came來了 up with?
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是否有人要我成為現在這個樣子,或是那完全出於我自己?
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And I also can find that by imagining想像 fully充分, and becoming變得 what is imagined想像 --
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我可以藉著想像來找到答案,或成為自己想像的模樣
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and yet然而 is in that real真實 world世界, the fictional虛構 world世界.
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在那真實世界,虛構世界,
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And that is how I find particles粒子 of truth真相, not the absolute絕對 truth真相, or the whole整個 truth真相.
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這便是我找到部分真理的辦法,不是絕對的,或是完全的真理,
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And they have to be in all possibilities可能性,
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它們仍有許多可能性。
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including包含 those I never considered考慮 before.
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包括那些我從未想到的
21:16
So, there are never complete完成 answers答案.
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從沒有完整的答案
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Or rather, if there is an answer回答, it is to remind提醒
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就算有,也是為了提醒我自己。
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myself that there is uncertainty不確定 in everything,
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一切都是變化無常的
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and that is good, because then I will discover發現 something new.
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那是件好事,因為我總能發現新東西
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And if there is a partial局部 answer回答, a more complete完成 answer回答 from me,
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如果有一個片段的答案,一個更完整的答案
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it is to simply只是 imagine想像.
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便是簡單的想像
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And to imagine想像 is to put myself in that story故事,
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想像是將自己放進故事裡
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until直到 there was only -- there is a transparency透明度 between之間 me and the story故事 that I am creating創建.
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直到我跟我所創造的故事之間什麼都沒有
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And that's how I've discovered發現 that if I feel what is in the story故事
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這就是我如何發覺故事中的情節
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-- in one story故事 -- then I come the closest最近的, I think,
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那麼 ,我便接近了,懂得了
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to knowing會心 what compassion同情 is, to feeling感覺 that compassion同情.
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什麼是同感,或是如何感受同感
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Because for everything,
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因為對每一件事來說
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in that question of how things happen發生, it has to do with the feeling感覺.
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疑問事情怎麼發生,這其中必然帶有情感
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I have to become成為 the story故事 in order訂購 to understand理解 a lot of that.
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我必須成為故事,才能了解
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We've我們已經 come to the end結束 of the talk,
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這場演說到了尾聲
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and I will reveal揭示 what is in the bag, and it is the muse沉思,
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而我將揭露隱藏的秘密,就是謬思靈感的來源
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and it is the things that transform轉變 in our lives生活,
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就是這玩意改變了我們的生活
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that are wonderful精彩 and stay with us.
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美好且一直與我們在一起
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There she is.
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就是她
22:38
Thank you very much!
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謝謝你們
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(Applause掌聲)
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Translated by Portnoy Zheng
Reviewed by Dxm Online大小媒體

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Amy Tan - Novelist
Amy Tan is the author of such beloved books as The Joy Luck Club, The Kitchen God's Wife and The Hundred Secret Senses.

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Born in the US to immigrant parents from China, Amy Tan rejected her mother's expectations that she become a doctor and concert pianist. She chose to write fiction instead. Her much-loved, best-selling novels have been translated into 35 languages. In 2008, she wrote a libretto for The Bonesetter's Daughter, which premiered that September with the San Francisco Opera.

Tan was the creative consultant for Sagwa, the Emmy-nominated PBS series for children, and she has appeared as herself on The Simpsons. She's the lead rhythm dominatrix, backup singer and second tambourine with the Rock Bottom Remainders, a literary garage band that has raised more than a million dollars for literacy programs.

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