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Tim Berners-Lee: A Magna Carta for the web
Tim Berners-Li (Tim Berners-Lee): Velika povelja prava za internet
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Ser Tim Berners-Li izmislio je svetsku mrežu pre 25 godina. Stoga vredi poslušati kada nas upozorava - ispred nas je bitka. Neutralnost na internetu koja propada, mehurići s filterom i centralizovana korporativna kontrola, sve ovo preti otvorenim prostorima interneta. Na korisnicima je da se bore za prava pristupa i otvorenost. Pitanje je sledeće - kakav internet želimo?
Tim Berners-Lee - Inventor
Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web. He leads the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), overseeing the Web's standards and development. Full bio
Tim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web. He leads the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), overseeing the Web's standards and development. Full bio
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TED is 30.
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TED ima 30 godina.
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The world wide web is celebrating this month
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Svetska mreža ovog meseca
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its 25th anniversary.
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slavi svoju 25. godišnjicu.
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So I've got a question for you.
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Imam pitanje za vas.
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Let's talk about the journey, mainly about the future.
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Hajde da pričamo o putovanju,
uglavnom o budućnosti.
uglavnom o budućnosti.
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Let's talk about the state.
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Hajde da pričamo o državi.
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Let's talk about what sort of a web we want.
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Hajde da pričamo o tome
kakav internet želimo.
kakav internet želimo.
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So 25 years ago, then, I was working at CERN.
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Pre 25 godina, radio sam u CERN-u.
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I got permission in the end after about a year
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Na kraju sam, nakon oko godinu dana
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to basically do it as a side project.
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dobio dozvolu da ovo radim
kao projekat sa strane.
kao projekat sa strane.
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I wrote the code.
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Napisao sam kod.
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I was I suppose the first user.
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Pretpostavljam da sam bio prvi korisnik.
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There was a lot of concern
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Bilo je dosta brige o tome da ljudi
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that people didn't want to pick it up
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neće hteti da koriste ovo
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because it would be too complicated.
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jer bi bilo previše komplikovano.
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A lot of persuasion, a lot of wonderful
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Uz dosta ubeđivanja, dosta predivne
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collaboration with other people,
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saradnje s drugim ljudima,
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and bit by bit, it worked.
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i malo-pomalo, funkcionisalo je.
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It took off. It was pretty cool.
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Krenulo je. Bilo je prilično kul.
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And in fact, a few years later in 2000,
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Zapravo, nekoliko godina kasnije u 2000,
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five percent of the world population
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5% svetske populacije
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were using the world wide web.
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je koristilo svetsku mrežu.
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In 2007, seven years later, 17 percent.
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Sedam godina kasnije, u 2007, 17%.
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In 2008, we formed the World Wide Web Foundation
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Osnovali smo Fondaciju
svetsku mreže 2008.
svetsku mreže 2008.
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partly to look at that
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delom da to pogledamo
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and worry about that figure.
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i da se zabrinemo o toj brojci.
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And now here we are in 2014,
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Sada smo u 2014.
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and 40 percent of the world
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i 40% sveta
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are using the world wide web, and counting.
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koristi svetsku mrežu,
a ta brojka se menja.
a ta brojka se menja.
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Obviously it's increasing.
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Očigledno je da raste.
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I want you to think about both sides of that.
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Želim da razmislite o obe strane toga.
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Okay, obviously to anybody here at TED,
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Očigledno je svima ovde na TED-u
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the first question you ask is, what can we do
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prvo pitanje, šta možemo da uradimo
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to get the other 60 percent on board
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da uključimo ostalih 60%
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as quickly as possible?
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što je brže moguće?
Mnogo toga bitnog. Očigledno će se ticati
mobilne tehnologije.
mobilne tehnologije.
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Lots of important things. Obviously
it's going to be around mobile.
it's going to be around mobile.
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But also, I want you to think about the 40 percent,
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Ali želim i da razmislite o 40%,
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because if you're sitting there yourself
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jer ako i vi sedite tu
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sort of with a web-enabled life,
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sa životom koji je omogućen internetom,
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you don't remember things anymore,
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više se ne sećate stvari,
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you just look them up,
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jednostavno ih potražite,
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then you may feel that it's been a success
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onda možda mislite da je to uspeh
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and we can all sit back.
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i da svi možemo da se opustimo.
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But in fact, yeah, it's been a success,
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Zapravo, da, bio je to uspeh,
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there's lots of things, Khan Academy
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ima dosta stvari, Akademija Kan,
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for crying out loud, there's Wikipedia,
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i pobogu, tu je Vikipedija,
ogroman broj
besplatnih elektronskih knjiga
besplatnih elektronskih knjiga
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there's a huge number of free e-books
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that you can read online,
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koje možete čitati na internetu,
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lots of wonderful things for education,
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dosta divnih stvari za obrazovanje,
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things in many areas.
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u različitim poljima.
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Online commerce has in some cases
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U nekim slučajevima, onlajn trgovina je
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completely turned upside down the
way commerce works altogether,
way commerce works altogether,
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potpuno preokrenula način
na koji funkcioniše sva trgovina,
na koji funkcioniše sva trgovina,
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made types of commerce available
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omogućila je tipove trgovine
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which weren't available at all before.
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koji uopšte nisu bili mogući pre toga.
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Commerce has been almost universally affected.
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Na trgovinu je skoro globalno
izvršen uticaj.
izvršen uticaj.
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Government, not universally affected,
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Na vladu nije globalno,
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but very affected, and on a good day,
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ali je izvršen priličan uticaj,
i u dobrim danima,
i u dobrim danima,
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lots of open data, lots of e-government,
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tu je dosta otvorenih podataka,
dosta elektronske uprave,
dosta elektronske uprave,
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so lots of things which are visible
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dosta vidljivih stvari
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happening on the web.
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se dešava na internetu.
Takođe se dešava dosta
manje vidljivih stvari.
manje vidljivih stvari.
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Also, lots of things which are less visible.
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The healthcare, late at night when they're worried
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Zdravstvo, kada se kasno noću brinu
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about what sort of cancer
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o tome koju vrstu raka
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somebody they care about might have,
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ima možda neko do koga im je stalo,
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when they just talk across the Internet to somebody
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kada samo pričaju putem interneta s nekim
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who they care about very much in another country.
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do koga im je veoma stalo,
u drugoj zemlji.
u drugoj zemlji.
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Those sorts of things are not, they're not out there,
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Ovakve stvari se ne vide,
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and in fact they've acquired
a certain amount of privacy.
a certain amount of privacy.
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i zapravo su dostigle
određenu količinu privatnosti.
određenu količinu privatnosti.
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So we cannot assume that part of the web,
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Ne možemo onda da pretpostavimo
da taj deo mreže,
da taj deo mreže,
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part of the deal with the web,
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deo dogovora s mrežom,
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is when I use the web,
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kada koristim internet,
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it's just a transparent, neutral medium.
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da je to transparentan, neutralan medij.
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I can talk to you over it without worrying
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Mogu sa vama da pričam
o tome a da ne brinem
o tome a da ne brinem
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about what we in fact now know is happening,
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o tome šta zapravo znamo da se dešava,
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without worrying about the fact
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a da ne brinem o činjenici
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that not only will surveillance be happening
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da ne samo da se neće ništa nadgledati
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but it'll be done by people who may abuse the data.
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nego da će to raditi ljudi
koji mogu da zloupotrebe podatke.
koji mogu da zloupotrebe podatke.
Zapravo, shvatili smo nešto -
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So in fact, something we realized,
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we can't just use the web,
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ne možemo samo
da koristimo internet, moramo da brinemo
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we have to worry about
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what the underlying infrastructure of the whole thing,
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o tome šta je osnovna
infrastruktura svega toga,
infrastruktura svega toga,
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is it in fact of a quality that we need?
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da li je to zapravo kvalitet
koji nam je potreban?
koji nam je potreban?
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We revel in the fact that we
have this wonderful free speech.
have this wonderful free speech.
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Uživamo u činjenici da imamo
ovu predivnu slobodu govora.
ovu predivnu slobodu govora.
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We can tweet, and oh, lots and lots of people
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Možemo da tvitujemo, i dosta, dosta ljudi
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can see our tweets, except when they can't,
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može da vidi naše tvitove,
osim kada ne mogu,
osim kada ne mogu,
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except when actually Twitter
is blocked from their country,
is blocked from their country,
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osim kada je Tviter zapravo
blokiran u njihovoj zemlji,
blokiran u njihovoj zemlji,
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or in some way the way we try to express ourselves
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ili kada je na neki način
to kako pokušavamo da se izrazimo
to kako pokušavamo da se izrazimo
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has put some information
about the state of ourselves,
about the state of ourselves,
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pružilo neke informacije
o našem stanju,
o našem stanju,
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the state of the country we live in,
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stanju države u kojoj živimo,
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which isn't available to anybody else.
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a te informacije
nisu dostupne nikom drugom.
nisu dostupne nikom drugom.
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So we must protest and make sure
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Moramo da protestujemo i postaramo se
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that censorship is cut down,
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da se cenzura ukine,
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that the web is opened up
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da se internet otvori
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where there is censorship.
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tamo gde ima cenzure.
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We love the fact that the web is open.
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Obožavamo to što je internet otvoren.
To nam dozvoljava da pričamo.
Svako može da priča sa svakim.
Svako može da priča sa svakim.
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It allows us to talk. Anybody can talk to anybody.
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It doesn't matter who we are.
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Bez obzira ko smo.
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And then we join these big
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A onda se priključimo ovim velikim
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social networking companies
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kompanijama društvenih mreža
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which are in fact effectively built as silos,
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koje su zapravo napravljene kao silosi
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so that it's much easier to talk to somebody
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tako da je mnogo lakše
da pričate s nekim
da pričate s nekim
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in the same social network
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sa iste društvene mreže
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than it is to talk to somebody in a different one,
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nego s nekim iz druge mreže,
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so in fact we're sometimes limiting ourselves.
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tako da ponekad zapravo
ograničavamo sami sebe.
ograničavamo sami sebe.
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And we also have, if you've read
the book about the filter bubble,
the book about the filter bubble,
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Takođe imamo, ako ste pročitali
knjigu o mehuriću sa fillterima,
knjigu o mehuriću sa fillterima,
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the filter bubble phenomenon is that
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a to je pojava kada
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we love to use machines
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volimo da koristimo mašine
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which help us find stuff we like.
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koje nam pomažu
da nađemo stvari koje volimo.
da nađemo stvari koje volimo.
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So we love it when we're bathed in
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Obožavamo kada smo preplavljeni
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what things we like to click on,
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stvarima na koje volimo da klikćemo,
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and so the machine automatically feeds us
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tako da nam mašina automatski daje
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the stuff that we like and we end up
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stvari koje volimo i dobijamo
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with this rose-colored spectacles view of the world
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ovaj pogled na svet
iza ružičastih naočara
iza ružičastih naočara
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called a filter bubble.
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a to je mehurić sa filterima.
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So here are some of the things which maybe
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Evo nekih stvari koje možda prete
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threaten the social web we have.
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društvenoj mreži koju imamo.
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What sort of web do you want?
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Kakav internet vi želite?
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I want one which is not
fragmented into lots of pieces,
fragmented into lots of pieces,
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Želim internet koji nije rasparčan
na mnoštvo delova,
na mnoštvo delova,
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as some countries have been suggesting
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kao što su predlagale neke države
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they should do in reaction to recent surveillance.
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da se radi kao reakcija
na skorašnje nadgledanje.
na skorašnje nadgledanje.
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I want a web which has got, for example,
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Želim internet koji ima, na primer,
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is a really good basis for democracy.
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veoma dobru osnovu za demokratiju.
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I want a web where I can use healthcare
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Želim internet gde mogu
da koristim zdravstvo
da koristim zdravstvo
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with privacy and where there's a lot
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sa privatnošću i gde ima dosta
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of health data, clinical data is available
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podataka o zdravstvu,
gde su klinički podaci
gde su klinički podaci
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to scientists to do research.
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dostupni naučnicima za istraživanje.
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I want a web where the other 60 percent
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Želim internet gde će se ostalih 60%
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get on board as fast as possible.
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priključiti što je brže moguće.
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I want a web which is such
a powerful basis for innovation
a powerful basis for innovation
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Želim internet koji je toliko moćna
osnova za inovaciju,
osnova za inovaciju,
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that when something nasty happens,
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da kada se desi nešto gadno,
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some disaster strikes, that we can respond
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neka katastrofa, da možemo da odgovorimo
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by building stuff to respond to it very quickly.
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tako što ćemo stvarati stvari
da brzo odgovorimo na to.
da brzo odgovorimo na to.
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So this is just some of the things that I want,
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Ovo su samo neke od stvari koje želim,
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from a big list, obviously it's longer.
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sa velikog spiska,
očigledno je dosta duži.
očigledno je dosta duži.
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You have your list.
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Vi imate svoj spisak.
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I want us to use this 25th anniversary
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Želim da iskoristimo ovu 25. godišnjicu
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to think about what sort of a web we want.
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da razmislimo o tome
kakav internet želimo.
kakav internet želimo.
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You can go to webat25.org
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Možete otići na webat25.org
i pronaći neke linkove.
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and find some links.
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06:00
There are lots of sites where people
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Postoji dosta sajtova
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have started to put together a Magna Carta,
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gde su ljudi počeli da sastavljaju
Veliku povelju prava,
Veliku povelju prava,
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a bill of rights for the web.
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povelju prava za internet.
06:05
How about we do that?
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Kako da uradimo to?
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How about we decide, these are, in a way,
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Recimo da odlučimo da ovo, na neki način
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becoming fundamental rights, the right
to communicate with whom I want.
to communicate with whom I want.
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postaju osnovna prava,
prava da komuniciramo s kim želimo.
prava da komuniciramo s kim želimo.
06:15
What would be on your list for that Magna Carta?
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Šta bi bilo na vašem spisku
za tu Veliku povelju prava?
za tu Veliku povelju prava?
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Let's crowdsource a Magna Carta
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Hajde da zajedno smislimo
Veliku povelju prava
Veliku povelju prava
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for the web.
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za internet.
06:22
Let's do that this year.
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Hajde da uradimo to ove godine.
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Let's use the energy from the 25th anniversary
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Hajde da iskoristimo
energiju 25. godišnjice
energiju 25. godišnjice
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to crowdsource a Magna Carta
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da zajedno smislimo Veliku povelju prava
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to the web. (Applause)
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za internet.
(Aplauz)
(Aplauz)
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Thank you. And do me a favor, will you?
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Hvala vam. I učinite mi uslugu, može?
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Fight for it for me. Okay? Thanks.
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Borite se za nju zbog mene.
U redu? Hvala.
U redu? Hvala.
06:38
(Applause)
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(Aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Tim Berners-Lee - InventorTim Berners-Lee invented the World Wide Web. He leads the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), overseeing the Web's standards and development.
Why you should listen
In the 1980s, scientists at CERN were asking themselves how massive, complex, collaborative projects -- like the fledgling LHC -- could be orchestrated and tracked. Tim Berners-Lee, then a contractor, answered by inventing the World Wide Web. This global system of hypertext documents, linked through the Internet, brought about a massive cultural shift ushered in by the new tech and content it made possible: AOL, eBay, Wikipedia, TED.com...
Berners-Lee is now director of the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), which maintains standards for the Web and continues to refine its design. Recently he has envisioned a "Semantic Web" -- an evolved version of the same system that recognizes the meaning of the information it carries. He's the 3Com Founders Professor of Engineering in the School of Engineering with a joint appointment in the Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science at the Laboratory for Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence (CSAIL) at the MIT, where he also heads the Decentralized Information Group (DIG). He is also a Professor in the Electronics and Computer Science Department at the University of Southampton, UK.
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