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David Hanson: Robots that "show emotion"
Dejvid Henson (David Hanson): Roboti koji ispoljavaju emocije
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Face robota Dejvida Hansona izgledaju kao vi i mimika im je slična vašoj: prepoznaju i odgovoraju na emocije, i zasigurno ispoljavaju svoje. Ovom prilikom demo - predstavljanje emocija robota Ajnštajna pruža pogled u budućnost u kojoj roboti zaista imitiraju ljude.
David Hanson - Robotics designer
David Hanson merges robotics and art to design life-like, social robots that can mimic human expression and emotion. Full bio
David Hanson merges robotics and art to design life-like, social robots that can mimic human expression and emotion. Full bio
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I'm Dr. David Hanson, and I build robots with character.
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Ja sam dr Dejvid Henson i ja pravim robote sa karakterom.
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And by that, I mean
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Pri tome mislim
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that I develop robots that are characters,
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da stvaram robote određenog karaktera,
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but also robots that will eventually
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ali isto tako i robote koji će na kraju
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come to empathize with you.
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saosećati sa vama.
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So we're starting with a variety of technologies
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Počeli smo sa primenom različitih tehnologija
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that have converged into these conversational character robots
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koje su zajedno primenjene kod ovih robota sa karakterom koji govore,
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that can see faces, make eye contact with you,
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koji mogu videti lica, uspostavljaju konakt očima sa vama,
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make a full range of facial expressions, understand speech
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ispoljavaju puni spektar facijalnih ekspresija, razumeju govor
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and begin to model how you're feeling
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i počinju da modeluju kako se osećate
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and who you are, and build a relationship with you.
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i ko ste vi, i mogu da izgrade odnos sa vama.
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I developed a series of technologies
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Razvio sam čitav serijal tehnologija
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that allowed the robots to make more realistic facial expressions
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koje omogućuju ovim robotima da prave uverljivije izraze lica
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than previously achieved, on lower power,
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u odnosu na ranije postignute, uz manje energije,
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which enabled the walking biped robots, the first androids.
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koji je omogućio robotima da hodaju na dve noge, to su prvi androidi.
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So, it's a full range of facial expressions
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Tako da pričamo o punom spektru izraza lica
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simulating all the major muscles in the human face,
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koji simuliraju glavne mišiće ljudskog lica,
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running on very small batteries,
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a napajaju se veoma malim baterijama
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extremely lightweight.
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neverovatno lake težine.
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The materials that allowed the battery-operated facial expressions
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Materijal koji je omogućio da uspostavimo ove facijalne ekspresije kojim
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is a material that we call Frubber,
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upravljaju baterije nazivamo "Frubber",
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and it actually has three major innovations
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i u njemu su satkana tri glavna izuma
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in the material that allow this to happen.
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koji omogućavaju da se to desi.
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One is hierarchical pores,
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Pre svega, hijerarhija pora,
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and the other is a macro-molecular nanoscale porosity in the material.
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i druga stvar su makro-molekularne nanomreže poroznsoti u materijalu.
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There he's starting to walk.
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Ovde počinje da korača.
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This is at the Korean Advanced Institute of Science and Technology.
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Ovo se dešava na Institutu za naprednu nauku i tehnologiju u Koreji.
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I built the head. They built the body.
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Ja sam napravio glavu. Oni su napravili telo.
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So the goal here is to achieve sentience in machines,
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Naš cilj je da osposobimo mašine da osećaju
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and not just sentience, but empathy.
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i ne samo da osećaju, već i da saosećaju.
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We're working with the Machine Perception Laboratory
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Sarađujemo sa laboratorijom koja se bavi percepcijom kod mašina
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at the U.C. San Diego.
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na Univerzitetu Kalifornije u San Dijegu.
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They have this really remarkable facial expression technology
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Oni poseduju zadivljujuću tehnologiju kontrole facijalne ekspresije
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that recognizes facial expressions,
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pomoću koje je moguće prepoznati izraze lica,
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what facial expressions you're making.
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tip izraza lica koje ispoljavate.
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It also recognizes where you're looking, your head orientation.
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Takođe uočava šta posmatrate, položaj vaše glave.
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We're emulating all the major facial expressions,
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Mi oponašamo glavne izraze lica
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and then controlling it with the software
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a potom ih uz pomoć softvera kontrolišemo,
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that we call the Character Engine.
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a to nazivamo "Mašina sa karakterom".
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And here is a little bit of the technology that's involved in that.
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Ovo je mali prikaz tehnologije koju za to koristimo.
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In fact, right now -- plug it from here, and then plug it in here,
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U stvari, sada ćemo da ga uključimo ovde, pa uključimo tamo,
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and now let's see if it gets my facial expressions.
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i videćemo da li uočava moj izraz lica.
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Okay. So I'm smiling.
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Okej. Smešim se.
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(Laughter)
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(smeh)
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Now I'm frowning.
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Sada se mrštim.
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And this is really heavily backlit.
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Ovo je snažno osvetljeno od pozadi.
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Okay, here we go.
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Okej, idemo.
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Oh, it's so sad.
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Ah, tako je tužno.
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Okay, so you smile, frowning.
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Okej, smešiš se, mrštiš.
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So his perception of your emotional states
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Njegova percepcija vašeg emotivnog stanja
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is very important for machines to effectively become empathetic.
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je veoma značajna kako bi mašine postale efektivno empatične.
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Machines are becoming devastatingly capable
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Mašine postaju nezamislivo vešte u
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of things like killing. Right?
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ubijanju. Zar ne?
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Those machines have no place for empathy.
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Kod takvih mašina nema mesta za empatiju.
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And there is billions of dollars being spent on that.
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Trošimo milijarde dolara na to.
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Character robotics could plant the seed
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Robotika sa karakterom može utrti put za razvoj
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for robots that actually have empathy.
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robota koji zaista saosećaju.
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So, if they achieve human level intelligence
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Ukoliko dosegnu ljudski nivo inteligencije,
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or, quite possibly, greater than human levels of intelligence,
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ili, što je verovatno, premaše ljudski nivo inteligencije,
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this could be the seeds of hope for our future.
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to bi moglo da bude seme nade za budućnost.
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So, we've made 20 robots in the last eight years, during the course of getting my Ph.D.
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U toku poslednjih osam godina, za vreme izrade mog doktorata, napravili smo 20 robota.
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And then I started Hanson Robotics,
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Potom sam osnovao firmu Henson Robotika,
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which has been developing these things for mass manufacturing.
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koja se bavi razvojem ovih stvari za masovnu proizvodnju.
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This is one of our robots
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Ovo je jedan od naših robota kog
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that we showed at Wired NextFest a couple of years ago.
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smo prikazali na "Wired NextFest" manifestaciji pre dve godine.
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And it sees multiple people in a scene,
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Ono vidi mnogo ljudi na sceni,
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remembers where individual people are,
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pamti gde su pojedine osobe,
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and looks from person to person, remembering people.
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i posmatra i pamti osobu po osobu.
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So, we're involving two things.
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Uključujemo tu dve stvari.
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One, the perception of people,
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Pod jedan, uočavanje ljudi
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and two, the natural interface,
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i pod dva, prirodni izgled uređaja,
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the natural form of the interface,
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izgled prirodnog oblika,
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so that it's more intuitive for you to interact with the robot.
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kako bi vam bilo prirodnije da imate interakciju sa robotom.
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You start to believe that it's alive and aware.
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Počinjete da verujete da je živ i svestan.
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So one of my favorite projects was bringing all this stuff together
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Jedan od mojih omiljenih projekata je za zadatak imao da sve ovo spoji
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in an artistic display of an android portrait
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u umetničkom prikazu portreta androida
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of science-fiction writer Philip K. Dick,
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u liku pisca naučne fantastike Filipa K. Dika,
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who wrote great works like, "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"
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on je napisao dela kao što je "Da li androidi sanjaju o električnim ovcama?"
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which was the basis of the movie "Bladerunner."
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po kom je snimljen film "Bladerunner".
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In these stories, robots often think
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Često u ovim pričama robot
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that they're human, and they sort of come to life.
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misli da je ljudsko biće, i na neki način roboti ožive.
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So we put his writings, letters,
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Tako da smo od njegovih pisanih dela, pisama,
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his interviews, correspondences,
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intervjua, prepiski,
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into a huge database of thousands of pages,
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napravili ogormnu bazu podataka od hiljada stranica,
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and then used some natural language processing
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a potom smo primenili prirodni procesor jezika
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to allow you to actually have a conversation with him.
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kako bismo vam omogućili da vodite razgovor sa njim.
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And it was kind of spooky, because he would say these things
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Bilo je zastrašujuće na neki način, jer stvari koje je izgovarao su
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that just sounded like they really understood you.
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zvučale kao da vas je zaista razumeo.
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And this is one of the most exciting projects that we're developing,
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Ovo je jedan od najuzbudljivijih projekata koje razvijamo,
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which is a little character that's a spokesbot
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a to je robot koji priča, mališan
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for friendly artificial intelligence, friendly machine intelligence.
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koji predstavlja prijateljsku, veštačku inteligenciju, prijateljsku, inteligentnu mašinu.
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And we're getting this mass-manufactured.
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Mi ovo masovno proizvodimo.
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We specked it out to actually be doable
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Pojednostavili smo proces tako da možemo to da napravimo
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with a very, very low-cost bill of materials,
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od veoma jeftinog materijala,
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so that it can become a childhood companion for kids.
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pa može postati prijatelj u detinjstvu.
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Interfacing with the Internet, it gets smarter over the years.
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Komunicira sa internetom, postaje pametniji kako godine prolaze.
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As artificial intelligence evolves, so does his intelligence.
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Njegova inteligencija evoluira sa evolucijom veštačke inteligencije.
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Chris Anderson: Thank you so much. That's incredible.
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Kris Anderson: Hvala puno. Ovo je neverovatno.
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(Applause)
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(aplauz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
David Hanson - Robotics designerDavid Hanson merges robotics and art to design life-like, social robots that can mimic human expression and emotion.
Why you should listen
David Hanson is the founder and CEO of Hanson Robotics -- a company that aims to create robots as socially adept as any human being. Through his organization, he has seen the success of robotic facial hardware that establishes eye contact, recognizes faces and carries out natural spoken conversation. Hanson hopes these robotic faces prove useful to cognitive science and psychology, and to the entertainment industry.
A former Walt Disney Imagineer, this young entrepreneur and roboticist has been labelled a "genius" by both PC Magazine and WIRED, and has earned awards from NASA, NSF and Cooper Hewitt Design. If Hanson succeeds, he will create a socially intelligent robot that may even one day have a place in the human family.
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