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David Hanson: Robots that "show emotion"
David Hanson: Roboti koji "pokazuju emocije"
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Lica robota Davida Hansona izgledaju i djeluju kao vaša: Prepoznaju i reagiraju na emociju, i prave vlastite ekspresije. "Emocionalna" demonstracija uživo, Einsteinovog robota pruža nam uvid u budućnost gdje roboti doista oponašaju ljude.
David Hanson - Robotics designer
David Hanson merges robotics and art to design life-like, social robots that can mimic human expression and emotion. Full bio
David Hanson merges robotics and art to design life-like, social robots that can mimic human expression and emotion. Full bio
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I'm Dr. David Hanson, and I build robots with character.
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Ja sam Dr. David Hanson, i izrađujem robote s karakterom.
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And by that, I mean
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A pod time, mislim
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that I develop robots that are characters,
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da razvijam robote koji su likovi,
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but also robots that will eventually
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ali isto tako, robote koji će konačno
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come to empathize with you.
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moći suosjećati s vama.
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So we're starting with a variety of technologies
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Dakle, započinjemo s nizom tehnologija
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that have converged into these conversational character robots
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koje su se konvergirale u ove razgovorne likove robota
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that can see faces, make eye contact with you,
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koji mogu vidjeti lica, ostvariti kontakt očima,
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make a full range of facial expressions, understand speech
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pokazati pun niz facijalnih ekspresija, razumijeti govor,
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and begin to model how you're feeling
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i početi modelirati kako se osjećate,
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and who you are, and build a relationship with you.
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i tko ste, te izgraditi vezu s vama.
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I developed a series of technologies
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Razvio sam niz tehnologija
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that allowed the robots to make more realistic facial expressions
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koje su omogućile robotima da pokazuju realističnije facijalne ekspresije
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than previously achieved, on lower power,
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nego prije, uz manje energije,
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which enabled the walking biped robots, the first androids.
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što je rezultiralo s hodajućim robotima na dvije noge, prvim androidima.
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So, it's a full range of facial expressions
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Dakle, njihov cijeli niz facijalnih ekspresija
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simulating all the major muscles in the human face,
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simulira sve važne mišiće u ljudskom licu,
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running on very small batteries,
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pogonjen jako malim baterijama,
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extremely lightweight.
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i krajnje su lagani.
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The materials that allowed the battery-operated facial expressions
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Materijal koji je omogućava facijalne ekspresije pogonjene baterijama
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is a material that we call Frubber,
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je materijal kojeg nazivamo Frubber,
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and it actually has three major innovations
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i u stvari sadrži tri velike inovacije
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in the material that allow this to happen.
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u materijalu koji nam to omogućava.
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One is hierarchical pores,
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Jedno su hijerarhijske pore.
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and the other is a macro-molecular nanoscale porosity in the material.
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A drugo je makro-molekularna nanostupanjska poroznost u materijalu.
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There he's starting to walk.
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Ovdje on pokušava hodati.
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This is at the Korean Advanced Institute of Science and Technology.
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Ovo je u korejskom Institutu napredne znanosti i tehnologije.
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I built the head. They built the body.
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Izradio sam glavu. Oni su izradili tijelo.
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So the goal here is to achieve sentience in machines,
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Cilj je ovdje postići osjećaj u strojevima,
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and not just sentience, but empathy.
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i ne samo osjećaj, već empatiju.
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We're working with the Machine Perception Laboratory
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Radimo s Laboratorijem perceptivnih strojeva
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at the U.C. San Diego.
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na Sveučilištu u Kaliforniji, San Diego.
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They have this really remarkable facial expression technology
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Oni imaju tu doista nevjerojatnu tehnologiju
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that recognizes facial expressions,
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koja prepoznaje facijalne ekspresije,
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what facial expressions you're making.
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i koje facijalne ekspresije pokazujete.
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It also recognizes where you're looking, your head orientation.
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Ujedno prepoznaje gdje gledate, orijentaciju vaše glave.
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We're emulating all the major facial expressions,
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Simuliramo sve važne facijalne ekspresije,
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and then controlling it with the software
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i zatim ih kontroliramo s programom
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that we call the Character Engine.
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kojeg zovemo "Karakterni stroj".
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And here is a little bit of the technology that's involved in that.
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A ovdje je mali dio tehnologije koji je uključen u to.
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In fact, right now -- plug it from here, and then plug it in here,
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Zapravo, baš sada -- priključite ga odavde, a zatim ga priključite ovdje,
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and now let's see if it gets my facial expressions.
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pa da sada vidimo hoće li prepoznati moje facijalne ekspresije.
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Okay. So I'm smiling.
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Dobro. Smiješim se.
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(Laughter)
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(Smijeh)
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Now I'm frowning.
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Sada se mrštim.
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And this is really heavily backlit.
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A ovo je uistinu teško pozadinsko osvijetljenje.
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Okay, here we go.
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Dobro, krećemo.
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Oh, it's so sad.
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O, tako je tužno.
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Okay, so you smile, frowning.
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Dobro, smiješiš se, mrštiš.
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So his perception of your emotional states
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Njegova percepcija vaših emocionalnih stanja
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is very important for machines to effectively become empathetic.
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je jako važna strojevima da učinkovito postanu empatični.
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Machines are becoming devastatingly capable
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Strojevi postaju razorno sposobni
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of things like killing. Right?
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za stvari poput ubijanja. Točno?
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Those machines have no place for empathy.
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Ti strojevi nemaju mjesta za empatiju.
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And there is billions of dollars being spent on that.
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A utrošene su milijarde dolara na to.
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Character robotics could plant the seed
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Karakterna robotika bi mogla posaditi sjeme
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for robots that actually have empathy.
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za robote koji doista imaju empatiju.
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So, if they achieve human level intelligence
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Dakle, ako dosegnu ljudsku razinu inteligencije
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or, quite possibly, greater than human levels of intelligence,
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ili, sasvim moguće, veću od ljudske razine inteligencije,
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this could be the seeds of hope for our future.
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to bi mogla biti sjemena nade za našu budućnost.
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So, we've made 20 robots in the last eight years, during the course of getting my Ph.D.
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Izradili smo 20 robota u posljednjih osam godina, tijekom mog doktorata.
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And then I started Hanson Robotics,
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I nakon toga sam pokrenuo "Hanson Robotiku",
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which has been developing these things for mass manufacturing.
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koja razvija te stvari za masovnu proizvodnju.
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This is one of our robots
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Ovo je jedan od naših robota
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that we showed at Wired NextFest a couple of years ago.
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koji smo pokazali na "Wired NextFestu" prije par godina.
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And it sees multiple people in a scene,
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I vidi više ljudi u jednom prizoru,
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remembers where individual people are,
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pamti gdje su pojedini ljudi,
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and looks from person to person, remembering people.
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i gleda od osobe do osobe, pamteći ljude.
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So, we're involving two things.
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Dakle, uključujemo dvije stvari.
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One, the perception of people,
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Prvo, percepciju ljudi.
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and two, the natural interface,
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Drugo, prirodno sučelje,
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the natural form of the interface,
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prirodan oblik sučelja,
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so that it's more intuitive for you to interact with the robot.
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tako da je što intuitivnije za vas kada imate interakciju s robotom.
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You start to believe that it's alive and aware.
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Počinjete vjerovati da je živ i svjestan.
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So one of my favorite projects was bringing all this stuff together
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Jedan od mojih najdražih projekata je bio prikazati sve te stvari zajedno
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in an artistic display of an android portrait
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u umjetničkom prikazu potreta androida
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of science-fiction writer Philip K. Dick,
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pisca znanstvene fantastike Philip K. Dicka,
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who wrote great works like, "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"
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koji je napisao velika djela poput, "Sanjaju li androidi o električnim ovcama?",
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which was the basis of the movie "Bladerunner."
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koji je bio osnova za film "Bladerunner."
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In these stories, robots often think
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U tim pričama, roboti često misle
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that they're human, and they sort of come to life.
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kako su ljudi. I na neki način ožive.
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So we put his writings, letters,
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Stoga smo stavili njegove zapiske, pisma,
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his interviews, correspondences,
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njegove intervjue, prepiske,
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into a huge database of thousands of pages,
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u ogromnu bazu podataka s tisućama stranica,
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and then used some natural language processing
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i zatim smo upotrijebili neko prirodno procesuiranje jezika
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to allow you to actually have a conversation with him.
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kako bi omogućili vama da vodite razgovor s njim.
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And it was kind of spooky, because he would say these things
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I bilo je pomalo zastrašujuće. Jer bi rekao stvari
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that just sounded like they really understood you.
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koje su zvučale kao da vas stvarno razumiju.
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And this is one of the most exciting projects that we're developing,
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A ovo je jedan od najuzbudljivijih projekata koje razvijamo,
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which is a little character that's a spokesbot
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mali lik, a koji je robot zagovornik
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for friendly artificial intelligence, friendly machine intelligence.
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prijateljske umjetne inteligencije, prijateljske strojne inteligencije.
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And we're getting this mass-manufactured.
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I počinjemo ga masovno proizvoditi.
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We specked it out to actually be doable
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Specificirali smo ga tako da bude izvediv
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with a very, very low-cost bill of materials,
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s jako, jako malim troškovima za materijal,
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so that it can become a childhood companion for kids.
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kako bi mogao postati suputnik kroz djetinjstvo za djecu.
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Interfacing with the Internet, it gets smarter over the years.
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Komunicirajući s Internetom, s godinama postaje pametniji.
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As artificial intelligence evolves, so does his intelligence.
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Kako se umjetna inteligencija razvija, tako se razvija i njegova inteligencija.
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Chris Anderson: Thank you so much. That's incredible.
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Chris Anderson: Puno ti hvala. To je nevjerojatno.
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(Applause)
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(Pljesak)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
David Hanson - Robotics designerDavid Hanson merges robotics and art to design life-like, social robots that can mimic human expression and emotion.
Why you should listen
David Hanson is the founder and CEO of Hanson Robotics -- a company that aims to create robots as socially adept as any human being. Through his organization, he has seen the success of robotic facial hardware that establishes eye contact, recognizes faces and carries out natural spoken conversation. Hanson hopes these robotic faces prove useful to cognitive science and psychology, and to the entertainment industry.
A former Walt Disney Imagineer, this young entrepreneur and roboticist has been labelled a "genius" by both PC Magazine and WIRED, and has earned awards from NASA, NSF and Cooper Hewitt Design. If Hanson succeeds, he will create a socially intelligent robot that may even one day have a place in the human family.
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