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Gabe Barcia-Colombo: My DNA vending machine
加布里埃尔·加西亚-科伦坡: 我的 DNA 自动贩卖机
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通常来说，自动贩卖机售卖苏打饮料，糖果和薯片。但这可和 TED 研究会员加布里埃尔·加西亚-科伦坡所说的自动贩卖机不一样。这位艺术家希望设置人类 DNA 自动贩卖机，售卖提取自人体的 DNA，将它们装在小瓶子里并配有人体样本的照片。这很有趣并且古怪，但也提出了很大的伦理问题，这些伦理争议随着人们对生物科技的日益涉入而越发得到讨论。
Gabriel Barcia-Colombo - Video sculptor
Gabe Barcia-Colombo creates madcap art inspired both by Renaissance era curiosity cabinets and the modern-day digital chronicling of everyday life. Think: miniature people projected in objects and a DNA Vending Machine. Full bio
Gabe Barcia-Colombo creates madcap art inspired both by Renaissance era curiosity cabinets and the modern-day digital chronicling of everyday life. Think: miniature people projected in objects and a DNA Vending Machine. Full bio
Double-click the English transcript below to play the video.
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This is a vending machine in Los Angeles.
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这是在美国洛杉矶的自动贩卖机。
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It's in a shopping mall, and it sells fish eggs.
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它在商场里，售卖鱼卵。
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It's a caviar vending machine.
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也就是鱼子酱自动贩卖机。
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This is the Art-o-mat,
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这是Art-o-mat（贩卖机品牌），
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an art vending machine that sells
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一个艺术贩卖机，
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small artistic creations by different artists,
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售卖由各路艺术家创作的小艺术品。
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usually on small wood blocks or matchboxes,
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通常是在小木块或火柴盒上的艺术创作，
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in limited edition.
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是限量的。
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This is Oliver Medvedik. He's not a vending machine,
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这是奥利弗·麦徳沃鄂迪克。
他不是自动贩卖机，
他不是自动贩卖机，
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but he is one of the founders of Genspace,
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他是基因空间（Genspace）的创办人之一，
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a community biolab in Brooklyn, New York,
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绅士空间是位于纽约布鲁克林区的
一个社区生物学实验室，
一个社区生物学实验室，
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where anybody can go and take classes
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任何人都可以去上课
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and learn how to do things like
grow E. coli that glows in the dark
grow E. coli that glows in the dark
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学习如何在黑暗中培植大肠杆菌
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or learn how to take strawberry DNA.
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或学习如何提取草莓的DNA。
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In fact, I saw Oliver do one of these strawberry
DNA extractions about a year ago,
DNA extractions about a year ago,
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事实上，大约一年前，
我看过奥利弗从这些草莓中提取DNA，
我看过奥利弗从这些草莓中提取DNA，
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and this is what led me onto this bizarre path
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就是这个实验引领我走上这诡异的道路，
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that I'm going to talk to you right now.
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我现在就要将给你们听。
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Because strawberry DNA is really
fascinating, because it's so beautiful.
fascinating, because it's so beautiful.
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因为草莓DNA真的很有趣，
因为它是如此的美丽。
因为它是如此的美丽。
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I'd never thought about DNA
being a beautiful thing before,
being a beautiful thing before,
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在我看到这个之前形态前，
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before I saw it in this form.
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我从没想过DNA可以这样美丽。
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And a lot of people, especially in the art community,
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很多人，尤其是在艺术圈的人，
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don't necessarily engage in science in this way.
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不一定要这样和科学挂上联系。
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I instantly joined Genspace after this,
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在此之后，我立即加入了基因空间，
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and I asked Oliver, "Well, if
we can do this strawberries,
we can do this strawberries,
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我问奥利弗，
"呃，如果我们能提取草莓的DNA，
"呃，如果我们能提取草莓的DNA，
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can we do this with people as well?"
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我们能从人体上提取吗?"
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And about 10 minutes later, we were both
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约10分钟后，我们两个都
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spinning it in vials together and coming up
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让自己的DNA在小瓶中旋转
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with a protocol for human DNA extraction.
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并且起草了人类DNA提取议定书。
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And I started doing this on my own,
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于是我先拿自己做实验，
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and this is what my DNA actually looks like.
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我的DNA长这样。
01:17
And I was at a dinner party with
some friends, some artist friends,
some friends, some artist friends,
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当我与一些艺术家朋友共进晚餐的时候，
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and I was telling them about this project,
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我跟他们讲了这一项目，
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and they couldn't believe that
you could actually see DNA.
you could actually see DNA.
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他们不敢相信DNA是可见的。
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So I said, all right, let's get
out some supplies right now.
out some supplies right now.
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所以我说，好吧，让我们
赶紧去找一些愿意提供DNA的人。
赶紧去找一些愿意提供DNA的人。
01:27
And I started having these bizarre dinner
parties at my house on Friday nights
parties at my house on Friday nights
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于是在星期五晚上，
我会在家举办这些奇特的晚宴，
我会在家举办这些奇特的晚宴，
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where people would come over
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人们会过来参加，
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and we would do DNA extractions,
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我们便提取他们的DNA，
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and I would actually capture them on video,
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我会用摄影机拍下他们，
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because it created this kind of funny portrait as well.
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因为我能看到这种滑稽的面部表情。
01:38
(Laughter)
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（笑声）
01:40
These are people who don't necessarily regularly
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这些都不是定期和科学研究
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engage with science whatsoever.
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有接触的人。
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You can kind of tell from their reactions.
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这点你可以从他们的反应上看出来。
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But they became fascinated by it,
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但他们迷上了它，
01:50
and it was really exciting for me to see them
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我非常幸福能看到他们
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get excited about science.
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对科学有兴趣。
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And so I started doing this regularly.
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于是我经常举办这样的活动。
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It's kind of an odd thing to
do with your Friday nights,
do with your Friday nights,
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周五晚上做这件事情是有些怪异，
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but this is what I started doing,
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但我开始做了，
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and I started collecting a whole group
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我开始收集整组
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of my friends' DNA in small vials
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朋友们的DNA小瓶
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and categorizing them.
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并对它们进行分类。
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This is what that looked like.
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就是这个样子。
02:06
And it started to make me
think about a couple of things.
think about a couple of things.
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它使我想起几件事。
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First of all, this looked a lot like my Facebook wall.
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首先，这很像我的脸书墙。
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So in a way, I've created sort of a genetic network,
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所以在某种程度上，
我创建了有点基因网络，
我创建了有点基因网络，
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a genetic social network, really.
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一个基因社交网络。
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And the second thing was,
one time a friend came over
one time a friend came over
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第二件事是，一次有个朋友过来
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and looked at this on my table and was like, "Oh.
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看着我桌上的这个图片说，"哦。
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Why are they numbered? Is this
person more rare than the other one?"
person more rare than the other one?"
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为什么他们有编号？
是因为这个人比另一个更罕见吗?"
是因为这个人比另一个更罕见吗?"
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And I hadn't even thought about that.
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这是我甚至都没想过的问题。
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They were just numbered because that
was the order that I extracted the DNA in.
was the order that I extracted the DNA in.
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他们只是按照我提取DNA的顺序排列。
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But that made me think about collecting toys,
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但是，这让我想到了收集玩具，
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and this thing that's going on right now
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正在进行的这件事
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in the toy world with blind box toys,
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如同在收藏盲目玩具盒，
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and being able to collect these rare toys.
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并能够收集这些罕见的玩具。
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You buy these boxes. You're not sure
what's going to be inside of them.
what's going to be inside of them.
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你买这些玩具盒。
你不知道里面有些什么。
你不知道里面有些什么。
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But then, when you open them up,
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然后，当你打开他们，
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you have different rarities of the toys.
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你发现那是罕见的玩具。
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And so I thought that was interesting.
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于是，我想那很有趣。
02:43
I started thinking about this and the caviar
vending machine and the Art-o-mat all together,
vending machine and the Art-o-mat all together,
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我开始思考这个项目和鱼子酱自动贩卖机
和Art-o-mat贩卖机，
和Art-o-mat贩卖机，
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and some reason, I was one
night drawing a vending machine,
night drawing a vending machine,
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出于某种原因，
我花了一个晚上绘制自动贩卖机，
我花了一个晚上绘制自动贩卖机，
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thinking about doing paintings of a vending machine,
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想着如何绘制自动售货机，
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and the little vial of my DNA was sitting there,
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我小小瓶的DNA坐在那里，
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and I saw this kind of beautiful collaboration between
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我看到了DNA分子链和自动贩卖机线圈间的
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the strands of DNA and the
coils of a vending machine.
coils of a vending machine.
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某种美妙合作。
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And so, of course, I decided
to create an art installation
to create an art installation
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所以，当然，
我决定要创造一个艺术装置
我决定要创造一个艺术装置
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called the DNA Vending Machine.
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名叫DNA自动贩卖机。
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Here it is.
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就是这个。
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(Music)
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（音乐）
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["DNA Vending Machine is an art installation
about our increasing access to biotechnology."]
about our increasing access to biotechnology."]
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["DNA自动贩卖机是，有关我们
增进接触生物技术的艺术装置。"]
增进接触生物技术的艺术装置。"]
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["For a reasonable cost, you can purchase a sample
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["以合理的价格，您可以从传统自动售卖机处
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of human DNA from a traditional vending machine."]
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购买一个人类DNA的样本。"]
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["Each sample comes packaged with a collectible
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["每个样本都配有人体试样的
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limited edition portrait of the human specimen."]
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珍藏版限量肖像画"]。
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["DNA Vending Machine treats DNA
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["DNA自动贩卖机，将DNA视为
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as a collectible material and brings to light
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一种可收集的材料，
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legal issues over the ownership of DNA."]
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公开讨论DNA所有权的法律问题"]。
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Gabriel Garcia-Colombo: So
the DNA Vending Machine
the DNA Vending Machine
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加布里埃尔·加西亚-科伦坡：DNA自动贩卖机
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is currently in a couple galleries in New York,
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目前设立在纽约的在几个画廊里，
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and it's selling out pretty well, actually.
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事实上，它的销量很好。
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We're in the first edition of 100 pieces,
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我们在第一版制作了100件作品，
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hoping to do another edition pretty soon.
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估计很快能做下一个版本。
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I'd actually like to get it into more of a metro hub,
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我其实更想让这种贩卖机
设立在轨道交通枢纽，
设立在轨道交通枢纽，
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like Grand Central or Penn Station,
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像是纽约中央车站或者是宾州车站，
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right next to some of the other, actual
vending machines in that location.
vending machines in that location.
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在其他常见的自动贩卖机附近。
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But really with this project
and a lot of my art projects
and a lot of my art projects
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关于这个项目，
和我的一些其他的艺术项目，
和我的一些其他的艺术项目，
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I want to ask the audience a question, and that is,
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我想问观众一个问题，那就是
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when biotechnology and DNA sequencing
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当生物技术和DNA测序
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becomes as cheap as, say, laser cutting or
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变得很便宜，像是激光切割
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3D printing or buying caviar from a vending machine,
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或者3D打印，或是
从自动贩卖机里买鱼子酱，
从自动贩卖机里买鱼子酱，
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will you still submit your sample of
DNA to be part of the vending machine?
DNA to be part of the vending machine?
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你仍然愿意提供您的DNA，
让它成为自动贩卖机的一部分吗？
让它成为自动贩卖机的一部分吗？
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And how much will these samples be worth?
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这些样本的价值是多少？
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And will you buy someone else's sample?
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你会买别人的样本吗？
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And what will you be able to do with that sample?
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你要这些样本有什么用？
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Thank you.
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谢谢。
04:46
(Applause)
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（掌声）
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Gabriel Barcia-Colombo - Video sculptorGabe Barcia-Colombo creates madcap art inspired both by Renaissance era curiosity cabinets and the modern-day digital chronicling of everyday life. Think: miniature people projected in objects and a DNA Vending Machine.
Why you should listen
Gabe Barcia-Colombo is an American artist who creates installation pieces that both delight and point to the strangeness of our modern, digital world. His latest work is a DNA Vending Machine, which dispenses vials of DNA extracted from friends at dinner parties. He's also created video installations of "miniature people" encased inside ordinary objects like suitcases, blenders and more. His work comments on the act of leaving one's imprint for the next generation. Call it "artwork with consequences."
As he explains it: "While formally implemented by natural history museums and collections (which find their roots in Renaissance-era 'cabinets of curiosity'), this process has grown more pointed and pervasive in the modern-day obsession with personal digital archiving and the corresponding growth of social media culture. My video sculptures play upon this exigency in our culture to chronicle, preserve and wax nostalgic, an idea which I render visually by 'collecting' human beings (alongside cultural archetypes) as scientific specimens. I repurpose everyday objects like blenders, suitcases and cans of Spam into venues for projecting and inserting videos of people."
Barcia-Colombo is an alumnus and instructor at NYU's Interactive Telecommunications Program. Read about his latest work on CoolHunting and in his TED Fellows profile.
Gabriel Barcia-Colombo | Speaker | TED.com