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Gabe Barcia-Colombo: My DNA vending machine
Gabriel Barcia-Colombo: 我的 DNA 自動販賣機
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自動販賣機一般販售蘇打水、棒棒糖和薯片。但是 TED 研究會員卡伯耀•卡希亞-戈倫柏（Gabriel Garcia-Colombo）創造的自動販賣機則不然。這位藝術家構思出來一部 DNA 自動販賣機，銷售從人體提取的 DNA，包裝在小瓶內，內附一張有收藏價值的 DNA 主人的照片。可愛怪誕，但也同時指出了隨著生物技術提升而出現更重要的倫理問題。
Gabriel Barcia-Colombo - Video sculptor
Gabe Barcia-Colombo creates madcap art inspired both by Renaissance era curiosity cabinets and the modern-day digital chronicling of everyday life. Think: miniature people projected in objects and a DNA Vending Machine. Full bio
Gabe Barcia-Colombo creates madcap art inspired both by Renaissance era curiosity cabinets and the modern-day digital chronicling of everyday life. Think: miniature people projected in objects and a DNA Vending Machine. Full bio
Double-click the English transcript below to play the video.
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This is a vending machine in Los Angeles.
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這是在洛杉磯的一部自動販賣機，
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It's in a shopping mall, and it sells fish eggs.
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在一個大型購物商城，販賣魚卵。
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It's a caviar vending machine.
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這是一部魚子醬販賣機。
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This is the Art-o-mat,
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這是一部Art-o-mat，
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an art vending machine that sells
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即另一類自動販賣機，
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small artistic creations by different artists,
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販賣不同藝術家創作的小藝術品，
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usually on small wood blocks or matchboxes,
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賣的通常為小型木刻或者火柴盒，
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in limited edition.
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這些藝術品都為限量版。
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This is Oliver Medvedik. He's not a vending machine,
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這是奧利弗•馬凡迪。他不是一部自動販賣機，
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but he is one of the founders of Genspace,
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但是，他是基因空間（Genspace）的創建人之一。
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a community biolab in Brooklyn, New York,
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基因空間是紐約布魯克林的一所社區生物實驗室，
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where anybody can go and take classes
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人人都可以去那裡上課，
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and learn how to do things like
grow E. coli that glows in the dark
grow E. coli that glows in the dark
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學習各類東西，諸如培育
在暗處發光的大腸桿菌，
在暗處發光的大腸桿菌，
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or learn how to take strawberry DNA.
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或者如何萃取草莓的DNA。
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In fact, I saw Oliver do one of these strawberry
DNA extractions about a year ago,
DNA extractions about a year ago,
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老實說，一年前我看過奧利弗萃取草莓DNA，
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and this is what led me onto this bizarre path
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而這就是我的奇思怪想之始，
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that I'm going to talk to you right now.
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也是今日我將為大家講解的主題。
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Because strawberry DNA is really
fascinating, because it's so beautiful.
fascinating, because it's so beautiful.
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因為草莓DNA實在是叫人著迷，
因為這實在是太漂亮了。
因為這實在是太漂亮了。
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I'd never thought about DNA
being a beautiful thing before,
being a beautiful thing before,
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以前我從來不知道DNA是如此美麗動人，
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before I saw it in this form.
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因為我未見過DNA的這種形態。
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And a lot of people, especially in the art community,
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很多人，特別是藝術圈內的人，
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don't necessarily engage in science in this way.
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不見得會以此方式涉入科學領域。
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I instantly joined Genspace after this,
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此後我很快就加入了基因空間，
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and I asked Oliver, "Well, if
we can do this strawberries,
we can do this strawberries,
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我問奧利弗：「哎，既然我們能做草莓的，
01:06
can we do this with people as well?"
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我們能不能做人的DNA呢？」
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And about 10 minutes later, we were both
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大概十分鐘後，
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spinning it in vials together and coming up
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我們兩人已經將DNA放入瓶子裡面做分離，
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with a protocol for human DNA extraction.
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即得出人類DNA萃取物的雛形。
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And I started doing this on my own,
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我獨自開始做這件事，
01:15
and this is what my DNA actually looks like.
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而這個，是我的DNA的容貌。
01:17
And I was at a dinner party with
some friends, some artist friends,
some friends, some artist friends,
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有一次我跟朋友聚餐，藝術圈內的朋友，
01:19
and I was telling them about this project,
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我跟他們介紹我的計畫，
01:22
and they couldn't believe that
you could actually see DNA.
you could actually see DNA.
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他們不相信真的可以看見DNA。
01:25
So I said, all right, let's get
out some supplies right now.
out some supplies right now.
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於是我就說，好吧，我們現在就做一些出來。
01:27
And I started having these bizarre dinner
parties at my house on Friday nights
parties at my house on Friday nights
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之後，我家開始有這些稀奇古怪的週五晚聚餐，
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where people would come over
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人們都會過來，
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and we would do DNA extractions,
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然後一起萃取DNA，
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and I would actually capture them on video,
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我把這些人都一一拍下來，
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because it created this kind of funny portrait as well.
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這樣我就可以同時得到這類古靈精怪的表情。
01:38
(Laughter)
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（笑聲）
01:40
These are people who don't necessarily regularly
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這些人啊，通常情況下，
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engage with science whatsoever.
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都不會跟科學領域打交道。
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You can kind of tell from their reactions.
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你大概也可以從他們的反應看出來。
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But they became fascinated by it,
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但是他們對這件事很著迷，
01:50
and it was really exciting for me to see them
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而我自己也很興奮看到他們
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get excited about science.
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開始對科學感興趣。
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And so I started doing this regularly.
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之後我開始定期進行舉辦這個活動。
01:56
It's kind of an odd thing to
do with your Friday nights,
do with your Friday nights,
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每週五晚做這事情，的確有點奇怪，
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but this is what I started doing,
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但這就是我開始做的事，
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and I started collecting a whole group
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我也開始用小瓶子收集
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of my friends' DNA in small vials
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我這幫朋友的DNA，
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and categorizing them.
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並且進行分類。
02:04
This is what that looked like.
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這就是他們的DNA。
02:06
And it started to make me
think about a couple of things.
think about a couple of things.
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由此我也開始考慮一些事情。
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First of all, this looked a lot like my Facebook wall.
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首先，這看上去很像我的臉書牆。
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So in a way, I've created sort of a genetic network,
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所以呢，我大概也創造了一個基因網，
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a genetic social network, really.
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一個真正的基因社交網。
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And the second thing was,
one time a friend came over
one time a friend came over
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而第二件事呢，有次一個朋友過來，
02:17
and looked at this on my table and was like, "Oh.
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看了我桌子上的這些東西，就問：
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Why are they numbered? Is this
person more rare than the other one?"
person more rare than the other one?"
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「噢，為什麼編號了？是不是因為
這個人的基因比另外一個罕見？」
這個人的基因比另外一個罕見？」
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And I hadn't even thought about that.
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我從來沒想過這問題。
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They were just numbered because that
was the order that I extracted the DNA in.
was the order that I extracted the DNA in.
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DNA編號是因為我就是按這個順序萃取DNA的。
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But that made me think about collecting toys,
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但是這讓我想到收集玩具，
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and this thing that's going on right now
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而現在這事情，就好像
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in the toy world with blind box toys,
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在玩具世界，玩具盒裡藏著未知的玩具，
02:34
and being able to collect these rare toys.
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大家能夠收集到一些稀有的玩具。
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You buy these boxes. You're not sure
what's going to be inside of them.
what's going to be inside of them.
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你買了這些玩具盒，但是你不知道盒子裡有什麼玩具。
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But then, when you open them up,
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但是，當你打開盒子時，
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you have different rarities of the toys.
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你就擁有各種稀有的玩具。
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And so I thought that was interesting.
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然後我就想，這很好玩。
02:43
I started thinking about this and the caviar
vending machine and the Art-o-mat all together,
vending machine and the Art-o-mat all together,
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我開始把這個跟魚子醬販賣機和Art-o-mat聯想起來，
02:46
and some reason, I was one
night drawing a vending machine,
night drawing a vending machine,
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很偶然，一天晚上我在畫一部自動販賣機，
02:50
thinking about doing paintings of a vending machine,
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考慮要畫販賣機的畫，
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and the little vial of my DNA was sitting there,
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又想到我的那些DNA，
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and I saw this kind of beautiful collaboration between
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我看到了某種美妙的融合，
02:55
the strands of DNA and the
coils of a vending machine.
coils of a vending machine.
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DNA的這些曲線和自動販賣機的卷線之間的融合。
02:58
And so, of course, I decided
to create an art installation
to create an art installation
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之後呢，當然，我決定創造一部藝術裝置，
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called the DNA Vending Machine.
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名叫DNA自動販賣機。
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Here it is.
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請看。
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(Music)
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（音樂）
03:10
["DNA Vending Machine is an art installation
about our increasing access to biotechnology."]
about our increasing access to biotechnology."]
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[「DNA自動販賣機是一部關於
增加接觸生物技術的藝術裝置。」]
增加接觸生物技術的藝術裝置。」]
03:19
["For a reasonable cost, you can purchase a sample
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[「以合理的價格，你就可以從傳統的自動販賣機
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of human DNA from a traditional vending machine."]
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購買人類DNA樣本。」]
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["Each sample comes packaged with a collectible
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[「每一個樣本都同時附有該NDA主人的
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limited edition portrait of the human specimen."]
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一張有收藏價值的限量版人物像。」]
03:54
["DNA Vending Machine treats DNA
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[「DNA自動販賣機將DNA
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as a collectible material and brings to light
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視為有收藏價值的材料，
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legal issues over the ownership of DNA."]
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引發有關NDA擁有權合法問題的討論。」]
04:04
Gabriel Garcia-Colombo: So
the DNA Vending Machine
the DNA Vending Machine
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卡伯耀•卡希亞-戈倫柏（Gabriel Garcia-Colombo）：
目前，DNA自動販賣機
目前，DNA自動販賣機
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is currently in a couple galleries in New York,
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已經出現在紐約的幾個美術館，
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and it's selling out pretty well, actually.
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而且還賣得不錯。
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We're in the first edition of 100 pieces,
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我們現在做了第一版，有100個，
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hoping to do another edition pretty soon.
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希望很快就能做第二版。
04:14
I'd actually like to get it into more of a metro hub,
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我希望能把它帶進繁忙的地鐵站，
04:16
like Grand Central or Penn Station,
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諸如中央車站或賓州車站，
04:18
right next to some of the other, actual
vending machines in that location.
vending machines in that location.
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然後就擺在其他真正的自動販賣機旁邊。
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But really with this project
and a lot of my art projects
and a lot of my art projects
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但是進行這個計畫和其他藝術計畫的同時，
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I want to ask the audience a question, and that is,
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我想問在場觀眾一個問題：
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when biotechnology and DNA sequencing
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要是生物技術和DNA測序
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becomes as cheap as, say, laser cutting or
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變得像雷射切割一樣便宜，
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3D printing or buying caviar from a vending machine,
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或者像3D列印或從販賣機買魚子醬一樣便宜，
04:34
will you still submit your sample of
DNA to be part of the vending machine?
DNA to be part of the vending machine?
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你們仍然會交出你的DNA樣本
給自動販賣機使用嗎？
給自動販賣機使用嗎？
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And how much will these samples be worth?
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這些樣本又值多少錢？
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And will you buy someone else's sample?
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你會願意買其他人的樣本嗎？
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And what will you be able to do with that sample?
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之後你們拿著樣本又能做什麼？
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Thank you.
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謝謝。
04:46
(Applause)
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（掌聲）
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Gabriel Barcia-Colombo - Video sculptorGabe Barcia-Colombo creates madcap art inspired both by Renaissance era curiosity cabinets and the modern-day digital chronicling of everyday life. Think: miniature people projected in objects and a DNA Vending Machine.
Why you should listen
Gabe Barcia-Colombo is an American artist who creates installation pieces that both delight and point to the strangeness of our modern, digital world. His latest work is a DNA Vending Machine, which dispenses vials of DNA extracted from friends at dinner parties. He's also created video installations of "miniature people" encased inside ordinary objects like suitcases, blenders and more. His work comments on the act of leaving one's imprint for the next generation. Call it "artwork with consequences."
As he explains it: "While formally implemented by natural history museums and collections (which find their roots in Renaissance-era 'cabinets of curiosity'), this process has grown more pointed and pervasive in the modern-day obsession with personal digital archiving and the corresponding growth of social media culture. My video sculptures play upon this exigency in our culture to chronicle, preserve and wax nostalgic, an idea which I render visually by 'collecting' human beings (alongside cultural archetypes) as scientific specimens. I repurpose everyday objects like blenders, suitcases and cans of Spam into venues for projecting and inserting videos of people."
Barcia-Colombo is an alumnus and instructor at NYU's Interactive Telecommunications Program. Read about his latest work on CoolHunting and in his TED Fellows profile.
Gabriel Barcia-Colombo | Speaker | TED.com