ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Misha Glenny - Underworld investigator
Journalist Misha Glenny leaves no stone unturned (and no failed state unexamined) in his excavation of criminal globalization.

Why you should listen

In minute detail, Misha Glenny's 2008 book McMafia illuminates the byzantine outlines of global organized crime. Whether it's pot smugglers in British Columbia, oil/weapons/people traffickers in Eastern Europe, Japanese yakuza or Nigerian scammers, to research this magisterial work Glenny penetrated the convoluted, globalized and franchised modern underworld -- often at considerable personal risk.

The book that resulted is an exhaustive look at an unseen industry that Glenny believes may account for 15% of the world's GDP.

Legal society ignores this world at its peril, but Glenny suggests that conventional law enforcement might not be able to combat a problem whose roots lie in global instability.

While covering the Central Europe beat for the Guardian and the BBC, Glenny wrote several acclaimed books on the fall of Yugoslavia and the rise of the Balkan nations. He's researching a new book on cybercrime, of which he says: "The key to cybercrime is what we call social engineering. Or to use the technical term for it, there's one born every minute."

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Misha Glenny: The real story of McMafia -- how global crime networks work

Misha Glenny对全球犯罪网络的调查

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记者Misha Glenny用了数年时间,针对全球有组织的犯罪网络,做了一次大胆的调查。据估计,这一犯罪网络已经占有了全球经济的15%。从俄罗斯黑手党到庞大的贩毒集团,他的信息来源不仅包括情报组织和执法官员,甚至包括了犯罪组织的内部人员。
- Underworld investigator
Journalist Misha Glenny leaves no stone unturned (and no failed state unexamined) in his excavation of criminal globalization. Full bio

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These are grim严峻 economic经济 times,
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现在是非常糟糕的经济时期
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fellow同伴 TEDstersTEDsters, grim严峻 economic经济 times indeed确实.
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各位TED的朋友,真的是非常糟糕经济时期
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And so, I would like to cheer欢呼 you up
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所以,我想让你们振奋一下
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with one of the great, albeit尽管 largely大部分 unknown未知,
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用一个在过去20年中
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commercial广告 success成功 stories故事
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大多数人都不知道的
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of the past过去 20 years年份.
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成功的商业故事
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Comparable可比, in its own拥有 very peculiar奇特 way,
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他们用他们自己的方式
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to the achievements成就 of Microsoft微软 or Google谷歌.
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他们有他们特别的方式™
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And it's an industry行业 which哪一个 has bucked逆势 the current当前 recession不景气
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如今,它正冷静的应对着当前的
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with equanimity泰然处之.
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金融危机
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I refer参考 to organized有组织的 crime犯罪.
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我指的是有组织犯罪
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Now organized有组织的 crime犯罪 has been around
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如你所知,从很久以前开始
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for a very long time, I hear you say,
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有组织犯罪就已经存在于我们身边了
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and these would be wise明智的 words, indeed确实.
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事实确实就是这个样子
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But in the last two decades几十年,
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但是在过去的20年中
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it has experienced有经验的 an unprecedented史无前例 expansion扩张,
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它以难以想象的速度扩张着
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now accounting会计 for roughly大致 15 percent百分
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如今它已经占到了世界GDP的
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of the world's世界 GDPGDP.
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近15%
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I like to call it the Global全球 Shadow阴影 Economy经济,
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我更愿意称之为”全球地下经济“
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or McMafiaMcMafia, for short.
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或者简称”McMafia“(麦克黑手党),
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So what triggered触发 this extraordinary非凡 growth发展
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那么,是什么引起了这种跨国行犯罪的
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in cross-border跨界 crime犯罪?
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异常增长呢?
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Well, of course课程, there is globalization全球化,
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当然,这其中有全球化,
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technology技术, communications通讯, all that stuff东东,
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科技进步,通讯发展等等方面的原因
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which哪一个 we'll talk about a little bit later后来.
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这些我们等会儿会谈到
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But first, I would like to take you back
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但是首先,我想带各位回顾一下
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to this event事件:
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这个事件
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the collapse坍方 of communism共产主义.
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东欧共产主义解体。
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All across横过 Eastern Europe欧洲, a most momentous重大 episode插曲
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整个东欧在第二次世界大战后
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in our post-war战后 history历史.
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经历的最重要的一章
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Now it's time for full充分 disclosure泄露.
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现在是时候大白于天下了。
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This event事件 meant意味着 a great deal合同 to me personally亲自.
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这件事对我个人来说非常重要。
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I had started开始 smuggling走私 books图书 across横过 the Iron Curtain窗帘
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我曾经为走私书籍横跨铁幕(当时共产主义和资本主义的欧洲分界线)
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to Democratic民主的 opposition反对 groups in Eastern Europe欧洲,
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运到东欧的民主反对党
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like Solidarity团结 in Poland波兰,
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比如波兰的团结工会等等
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when I was in my teens青少年.
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当时我是十几岁
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I then started开始 writing写作 about Eastern Europe欧洲,
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后来我开始写一些关于东欧的东西
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and eventually终于 I became成为 the BBC's英国广播公司 chief首席 correspondent通信者 for the region地区,
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并最终成为了 BBC驻这一地区的通讯主管
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which哪一个 is what I was doing in 1989.
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这些是我在1989年做的事情
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And so when 425 million百万 people
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当4.25亿人最终获得了
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finally最后 won韩元 the right
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选择他们政府的
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to choose选择 their own拥有 governments政府,
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权利的时候
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I was ecstatic欣喜若狂,
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我欣喜若狂
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but I was also a touch触摸 worried担心
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但是我也开始担心
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about some of the nastier厉害 things
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一些潜在着的
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lurking潜伏 behind背后 the wall.
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令人烦心的事情。
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It wasn't long, for example,
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举例来说,
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before ethnic民族 nationalism民族主义
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这离之前南斯拉夫的种族主义
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reared饲养 its bloody血腥 head
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血腥上台
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in Yugoslavia南斯拉夫.
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并不太久
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And amongst其中包括 the chaos混沌,
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在那种混乱与
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amidst烟雨 the euphoria欣快症,
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兴奋的环境中
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it took me a little while to understand理解
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我花了一段时间才了解到
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that some of the people who had wielded挥起 power功率
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那些在东欧1989年之前
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before 1989, in Eastern Europe欧洲,
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已经掌握特殊权利的人,
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continued继续 to do so after the revolutions革命 there.
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在革命之后继续在那里掌控着他们的权利。
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Obviously明显 there were characters人物 like this.
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显然有些是大人物,像是...
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But there were also some more unexpected意外 people
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不过也有一些我们想不到的人物
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who played发挥 a critical危急 role角色 in what was going on in Eastern Europe欧洲.
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正影响着东欧的改变
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Like this character字符. Remember记得 these guys?
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像是这一位。还记得这些人吗?
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They used to win赢得 the gold medals奖牌 in weightlifting举重
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他们经常在四年一次的奥运会上
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and wrestling摔角, every一切 four years年份 in the Olympics奥运会,
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赢得举重和摔跤的金牌
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and they were the great celebrities名人 of communism共产主义,
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在共产主义国家里,他们是社会名流
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with a fabulous极好 lifestyle生活方式 to go with it.
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过着奢华的生活
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They used to get great apartments公寓 in the center中央 of town,
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在市中心拥有高档的公寓
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casual随便 sex性别 on tap龙头,
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也有美酒佳人作陪
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and they could travel旅行 to the West西 very freely自如,
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他们可以自由的到西方国家旅行
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which哪一个 was a great luxury豪华 at the time.
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这在当时简直奢华到了极点
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It may可能 come as a surprise, but they played发挥 a critical危急 role角色
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这可能出乎人的意料,但是他们扮演了一个很重要的角色
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in the emergence紧急情况 of the market市场 economy经济
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在这个市场经济危机中
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in Eastern Europe欧洲.
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在东欧。
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Or as I like to call them, they are
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或者我更愿意称他们为
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the midwives助产士 of capitalism资本主义.
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资本主义的接生婆
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Here are some of those same相同 weightlifters举重
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after their 1989 makeover改造.
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保加利亚的
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Now in Bulgaria保加利亚 --
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举重选手
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this photograph照片 was taken采取 in Bulgaria保加利亚 --
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这些照片是在保加利亚拍的
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when communism共产主义 collapsed倒塌 all over Eastern Europe欧洲,
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当东欧共产主义国家垮台时
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it wasn't just communism共产主义;
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垮的不只是共产主义
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it was the state that collapsed倒塌 as well.
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政府机制也垮了
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That means手段 your police警察 force wasn't working加工.
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也就是说警察和治安没了
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The court法庭 system系统 wasn't functioning功能 properly正确.
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法律系统无法正常运作
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So what was a business商业 man in the brave勇敢 new world世界
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在这样的情况下,一个商人应该如何
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of East European欧洲的 capitalism资本主义 going to do
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在混乱的东欧的资本主义市场中
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to make sure that his contracts合同 would be honored荣幸?
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确保自己合约的有效性?
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Well, he would turn to people who were called, rather prosaically通俗点
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by sociologists社会学家, privatized私有化 law enforcement强制 agencies机构.
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被社会学家称之为 “私人法律强制执行机构”
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We prefer比较喜欢 to know them as the mafia黑手党.
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我们通常称他们为黑手党。
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And in Bulgaria保加利亚, the mafia黑手党 was soon不久 joined加盟
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在保加利亚,黑手党很快的
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with 14,000 people
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聚结了1万4千人
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who were sacked落马 from their jobs工作 in the security安全 services服务
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被聚集的都是1989到1991年间
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between之间 1989 and 1991.
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在治安管理行业丢了工作的人
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Now, when your state is collapsing崩溃,
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your economy经济 is heading标题 south at a rate of knots,
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经济正在急速下滑
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the last people you want coming未来 on to the labor劳动 market市场
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劳工市场绝不会是这1万四千人
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are 14,000 men男人 and women妇女 whose谁的 chief首席 skills技能
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愿意去的地方。他们擅长的
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are surveillance监控,
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是监视
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are smuggling走私, building建造 underground地下 networks网络
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走私,建立地下秩序
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and killing谋杀 people.
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和杀人。
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But that's what happened发生 all over Eastern Europe欧洲.
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Now, when I was working加工 in the 1990s,
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I spent花费 most of the time covering覆盖
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都花在了报道那些
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the appalling骇人听闻的 conflict冲突 in Yugoslavia南斯拉夫.
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南斯拉夫严重的武装冲突上
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And I couldn't不能 help notice注意
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that the people who were perpetrating偷梁换柱 the appalling骇人听闻的 atrocities暴行,
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犯下那些骇人暴行的人
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the paramilitary准军事 organizations组织,
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和这些准军事机构
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were actually其实 the same相同 people running赛跑
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都实际上是那同一群
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the organized有组织的 criminal刑事 syndicates辛迪加.
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掌控着有组织的犯罪集团的人
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And I came来了 to think that behind背后 the violence暴力
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所以我开始思考在这暴力后面隐藏着的
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lay铺设 a sinister险恶 criminal刑事 enterprise企业.
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一个危险的犯罪集团。
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And so I resolved解决 to travel旅行 around the world世界
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然后我决心环游世界
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examining检查 this global全球 criminal刑事 underworld地狱
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探查全球的地下犯罪
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by talking to policemen警察,
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通过与警察交谈
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by talking to victims受害者, by talking to consumers消费者
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与受害人交谈,与那些非法商品和服务的
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of illicit非法的 goods产品 and services服务.
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购买者们交谈
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But above以上 all else其他, by talking to the gangsters歹徒 themselves他们自己.
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除此之外,还会直接与罪犯们交谈
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And the Balkans巴尔干 was a fabulous极好 place地点 to start开始.
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巴尔干地区是一个适合开始调查的地方
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Why? Well of course课程
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为什么呢?因为显然
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there was the issue问题 of law and order订购 collapsing崩溃,
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那里的法律和秩序已经崩溃
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but also, as they say in the retail零售 trade贸易,
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it's location位置, location位置, location位置.
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关键是位置,位置,位置
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And what I noticed注意到 at the beginning开始 of my research研究
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刚开始我发现的是
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that the Balkans巴尔干 had turned转身 into a vast广大 transit过境 zone
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巴尔干已成为一个大型中转区
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for illicit非法的 goods产品 and services服务 coming未来 from all over the world世界.
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非法物资来源于世界各地
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Heroin海洛因, cocaine可卡因,
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海洛因,可卡因
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women妇女 being存在 trafficked贩卖 into prostitution卖淫
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女人被非法卖到卖淫集团
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and precious珍贵 minerals矿物质.
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还有稀有的矿物
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And where were they heading标题?
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这些东西最终运向什么地方?
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The European欧洲的 Union联盟, which哪一个 by now
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目的地是欧盟
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was beginning开始 to reap收割 the benefits好处 of globalization全球化,
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transforming转型 it into
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于是犯罪慢慢转型到
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the most affluent富裕的 consumer消费者 market市场 in history历史,
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这个历史上最富足的消费市场
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eventually终于 comprising包括 some 500 million百万 people.
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涵盖了5亿人口的市场
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And a significant重大 minority少数民族
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在这5亿人中
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of those 500 million百万 people
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有很少但很重要的一批人
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like to spend some of their leisure闲暇 time and spare备用 cash现金
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他们愿意花点些时间和闲钱
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sleeping睡眠 with prostitutes妓女,
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跟妓女上床
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sticking症结 50 Euro欧元 notes笔记 up their nose鼻子
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用50欧元的钞票插到鼻子里面(吸毒)
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and employing采用 illegal非法 migrant农民 laborers劳动者.
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雇佣非法移民劳工
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Now, organized有组织的 crime犯罪 in a globalizing全球化 world世界
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在世界全球化的今天,有组织犯罪
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operates操作 in the same相同 way as any other business商业.
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使用和其他大企业一样的运作模式
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It has zones of production生产,
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它拥有很多生产地区,
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like Afghanistan阿富汗 and Columbia哥伦比亚.
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像阿富汗和哥伦比亚
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It has zones of distribution分配,
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它有自己的发货区域
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like Mexico墨西哥 and the Balkans巴尔干.
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像墨西哥和巴尔干地区
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And then, of course课程, it has zones of consumption消费,
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然后,当然,还有它的消费区
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like the European欧洲的 Union联盟, Japan日本
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像欧盟,日本
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and of course课程, the United联合的 States状态.
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当然 ,还有美国
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The zones of production生产 and distribution分配
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生产区域和发货区域
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tend趋向 to lie谎言 in the developing发展 world世界,
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趋向于在发展中世界
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and they are often经常 threatened受威胁 by appalling骇人听闻的 violence暴力
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他们都经常被严重的暴力和流血事件
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and bloodshed流血.
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威胁
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Take Mexico墨西哥, for example.
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拿墨西哥来说
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Six thousand people killed杀害 there in the last 18 months个月
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在过去18个月中,就有6000人被杀
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as a direct直接 consequence后果 of the cocaine可卡因 trade贸易.
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这些都直接归因于可卡因的交易
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But what about the Democratic民主的 Republic共和国 of Congo刚果?
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那么民主刚果共和国怎么样呢?
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Since以来 1998, five million百万 people have died死亡 there.
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从1998年起,5百万人已经死亡
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It's not a conflict冲突 you read about much in the newspapers报纸,
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这不是一个你在报纸上可以读到的冲突
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but it's the biggest最大 conflict冲突 on this planet行星
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但这是自二战以来
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since以来 the Second第二 World世界 War战争.
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在我们星球上发生的最大的冲突
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And why is it? Because mafias黑手党 from all around the world世界
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为什么会这样 ? 因为来自世界各地的黑手党
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cooperate合作 with local本地 paramilitaries准军事部队
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与地方军事武装合作
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in order订购 to seize抢占 the supplies耗材
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为了控制富矿
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of the rich丰富 mineral矿物 resources资源
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在地区上的
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of the region地区.
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供应权。
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In the year 2000, 80 percent百分 of the world's世界 coltan钶钽铁矿
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在2000年,世界上80%的钶钽铁矿
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was sourced来源 to the killing谋杀 fields领域
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都来源于刚果共和国东部的
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of the eastern Democratic民主的 Republic共和国 of Congo刚果.
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杀戮地区
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Now, coltan钶钽铁矿 you will find in almost几乎 every一切 mobile移动 phone电话,
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你可以在基本上每部手机上发现钶钽铁矿
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in almost几乎 every一切 laptop笔记本电脑
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还有笔记本电脑上
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and games游戏 console安慰.
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和游戏机控制器上
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The Congolese刚果 war战争 lords领主 were selling销售 this stuff东东 to the mafia黑手党
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刚果的战争头目把这些东西卖给黑手党
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in exchange交换 for weapons武器,
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去交换武器
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and the mafia黑手党 would then sell it on to Western西 markets市场.
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然后黑手党把这些东西卖到西方市场
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And it is this Western西 desire欲望
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这是西方市场所需要的
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to consume消耗
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所消耗的
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that is the primary driver司机
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这就是全球组织犯罪的
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of international国际 organized有组织的 crime犯罪.
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主要动机
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Now, let me show显示 you some of my friends朋友 in action行动,
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现在,就让我向你们展示一些我的正在行动中的朋友,
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caught抓住 conveniently便利地 on film电影 by the Italian意大利 police警察,
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他们正巧被意大利警察拍到了影片中
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and smuggling走私 duty-not-paid值班未完税 cigarettes香烟.
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他们在走私逃税香烟
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Now, cigarettes香烟 out the factory gate are very cheap低廉.
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现在,工厂生产的香烟非常便宜
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The European欧洲的 Union联盟 then imposes强加 the highest最高 taxes on them in the world世界.
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但欧盟要求他们付世界上最高的税。
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So if you can smuggle走私 them into the E.U.,
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所以如果你可以走私香烟进欧盟
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there are very handsome英俊 profits利润 to be made制作,
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就能赚到极高的利润
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and I want to show显示 you this to demonstrate演示
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我想向各位展示一下
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the type类型 of resources资源 available可得到 to these groups.
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这些团体拥有着何等的资源
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This boat is worth价值 one million百万 Euros欧元 when it's new.
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这艘船的造价是100万欧元
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And it's the fastest最快的 thing on European欧洲的 waters水域.
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欧洲再没有什么跑得比它快了
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From 1994, for seven years年份,
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从1994年开始,一共7年,
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20 of these boats
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20艘这样的船
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made制作 the trip across横过 the Adriatic亚得里亚海,
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曾经成功的穿越过亚得里亚海,
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from Montenegro黑山 to Italy意大利, every一切 single night.
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每天晚上从黑山到意大利。
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And as a consequence后果 of this trade贸易,
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这个交易导致
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Britain英国 alone单独 lost丢失 eight billion十亿 dollars美元 in revenue收入.
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英国损失了80亿美元的收入
09:33
And instead代替 that money went to underwrite包销 the wars战争 in Yugoslavia南斯拉夫
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而这些钱被用在了南斯拉夫战争中
09:37
and line线 the pockets口袋 of unscrupulous不择手段 individuals个人.
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还进了一些黑心商人的腰包
09:41
Now Italian意大利 police警察, when this trade贸易 started开始,
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这种交易刚刚开始的时候,意大利警方
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had just two boats which哪一个 could go at the same相同 speed速度.
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只有两艘警舰可以跟他们跑得一样快
09:48
And this is very important重要, because the only way you can catch抓住 these guys
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这很重要,因为唯一抓住他们的方法
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is if they run out of gas加油站.
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就是让他们跑到没汽油
09:53
Sometimes有时 the gangsters歹徒 would bring带来 with them
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有时候黑手党会带着
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women妇女 being存在 trafficked贩卖 into prostitution卖淫,
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被拐来卖淫的女人
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and if the police警察 intervened干预, they would hurl
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如果警察干预,他们会把
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the women妇女 into the sea
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这些女人抛入大海
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so that the police警察 had to go and save保存 them from drowning溺死,
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所以警察必须去救这些人,
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rather than chasing the bad guys.
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而不是继续追赶,
10:09
So I have shown显示 you this to demonstrate演示
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给各位看这些是想说明
10:12
how many许多 boats, how many许多 vessels船只 it takes
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需要多少船,多少快艇
10:14
to catch抓住 one of these guys.
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才能抓到这些人
10:16
And the answer回答 is six vessels船只.
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答案是6艘
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And remember记得, 20 of these speed速度 boats
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要知道,有20艘这样的快船
10:21
were coming未来 across横过 the Adriatic亚得里亚海
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每晚穿梭在
10:23
every一切 single night.
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亚得里亚海上
10:25
So what were these guys doing with all the money they were making制造?
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罪犯把挣到的钱都用在什么地方了呢?
10:29
Well, this is where we come to globalization全球化,
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这就要提到全球化问题了
10:33
because that was not just the deregulation放松管制 of global全球 trade贸易.
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因为这不只是破坏世界交易规定
10:36
It was the liberalization自由化 of international国际 financial金融 markets市场.
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还有世界金融市场的自由化
10:39
And boy男孩, did that make it easy简单
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老实说,洗钱实在是
10:42
for the money launderers洗衣工.
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太容易了
10:44
The last two decades几十年 have been the champagne香槟酒 era时代
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过去的20年是一个值得用香槟庆祝的时代
10:47
for dirty lucre不义之财.
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对于黑钱来说
10:49
In the 1990s, we saw financial金融 centers中心 around the world世界
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自1990以来,我们看见世界各地的金融中心们
10:53
competing竞争 for their business商业,
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为它们的生意互相竞争
10:56
and there was simply只是 no effective有效 mechanism机制
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然而却没有一个有效地机制
10:58
to prevent避免 money laundering洗钱.
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去防止洗钱活动
11:00
And a lot of licit合法 banks银行 were also happy快乐
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而且很多合法的银行也乐于
11:03
to accept接受 deposits存款
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接受存款
11:06
from very dubious可疑 sources来源
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尽管来源非常可疑
11:08
without questions问题 being存在 asked.
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也不会问任何问题
11:11
But at the heart of this, is the offshore海上 banking银行业 network网络.
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这些问题的根源在于跨国银行网络
11:15
Now these things
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现在这些事情
11:18
are an essential必要 part部分 of the money laundering洗钱 parade游行,
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已经成为洗钱狂潮的核心部分
11:21
and if you want to do something about illegal非法 tax evasion逃避
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如果你想阻止非法避税
11:25
and transnational跨国 organized有组织的 crime犯罪, money laundering洗钱,
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国际化有组织犯罪、洗钱
11:29
you have to get rid摆脱 of them.
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你就必须摆脱它们
11:31
On a positive note注意, we at last have someone有人 in the White白色 House
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好消息是,白宫里有些还在
11:34
who has consistently始终如一 spoken out
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坚持提出
11:37
against反对 these corrosive腐蚀性的 entities实体.
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反对这些腐化的集团
11:40
And if anyone任何人 is concerned关心 about what I believe
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如果有任何人跟我一样关心这样的问题
11:44
is the necessity必要性 for
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注意最重要的事情是
11:47
new legislation立法, regulation, effective有效 regulation,
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对于新的法律,规定,有效的规则
11:50
I say, let's take a look at Bernie伯尼 Madoff麦道夫,
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让我们看看Bernie Madoff
11:54
who is now going to be spending开支 the rest休息 of his life in jail监狱.
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他将在监狱中度过他的余生
11:58
Bernie伯尼 Madoff麦道夫 stole偷了 65 billion十亿 dollars美元.
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Bernie Madoff偷了650亿美元
12:04
That puts看跌期权 him up there on the Olympus奥林巴斯 of gangsters歹徒
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这使他成为了可以比肩哥伦比亚三大贩毒集团
12:07
with the Colombian哥伦比亚 cartels卡特尔
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和主要俄罗斯犯罪组织的
12:09
and the major重大的 Russian俄语 crime犯罪 syndicates辛迪加,
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地位最高的黑手党
12:12
but he did this for decades几十年
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不同的是,他这样做了几十年
12:14
in the very heart of Wall Street,
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而且就在华尔街深处
12:16
and no regulator调节器 picked采摘的 up on it.
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没有任何规则可以将他找出来
12:19
So how many许多 other Madoffs麦道夫 are there on Wall Street
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所以华尔街上还有多少个Madoffs在华尔街?
12:22
or in the city of London伦敦,
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或者在伦敦
12:24
fleecing掏空 ordinary普通 folk民间
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伪装成普通人
12:26
and money laundering洗钱?
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继续洗着钱?
12:28
Well I can tell you, it's quite相当 a few少数 of them.
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我可以告诉各位,真的很多
12:32
Let me go on to the 101 of international国际 organized有组织的 crime犯罪 now.
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让我们来一个“有组织犯罪入门”吧
12:36
And that is narcotics毒品. Our second第二 marijuana大麻 farm农场 photograph照片 for the morning早上.
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毒品。这是我们今早展示的第二张大麻工厂的照片
12:40
This one, however然而, is in central中央 British英国的 Columbia哥伦比亚
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这张照片,是我在不列颠哥伦比亚省中部
12:43
where I photographed拍照 it.
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拍摄到的
12:45
It's one of the tens of thousands数千
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它只是成千上万的
12:47
of mom-and-pop妈妈和流行 grow-ops成长-OPS in B.C.
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不列颠哥伦比亚的家庭毒品农场之一
12:50
which哪一个 ensure确保 that over five percent百分
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全省GDP的5%以上
12:53
of the province's全省 GDPGDP is accounted for by this trade贸易.
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都是靠这项生意提供的
12:57
Now, I was taken采取 by inspector检查员 Brian布赖恩 Cantera坎特拉,
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现在,Brian Cantera探长带着我,
13:02
of the Royal王室的 Canadian加拿大 Mounted安装 Police警察,
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他是加拿大皇家骑警,
13:04
to a cavernous海绵状 warehouse仓库 east of Vancouver温哥华
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他带着我去温哥华东部的一个洞穴一样的仓库
13:06
to see some of the goods产品 which哪一个 are regularly经常 confiscated没收
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去看一些被合法没收的物品
13:10
by the RCMP加拿大皇家骑警
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它们是加拿大皇家骑警
13:12
from the smugglers走私者 who are sending发出 it,
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从走私者那里没收来的物品
13:14
of course课程, down south to the United联合的 States状态
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当然,走私的目标是美国的南部
13:17
where there is an insatiable贪心 market市场
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那里有一个永远不能满足的市场
13:19
for B.C. Bud, as it's called,
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他们称之为不列颠哥伦比亚的花蕾
13:22
in part部分 because it's marketed销售 as organic有机,
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部分因为它是作为有机商品来卖的
13:24
which哪一个 of course课程 goes down very well in California加州.
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所以在加利福尼亚的销路非常的好
13:28
(Laughter笑声)
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(笑声)
13:30
(Applause掌声)
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(掌声)
13:31
Now, even by the police's警方的 admission入场,
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现在就就连警方也承认
13:34
this makes品牌 not a dent凹痕 in the profits利润, really,
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这对主要出口商的利益来说
13:39
of the major重大的 exporters出口商.
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一点影响也没有
13:41
Since以来 the beginning开始 of globalization全球化,
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在全球化开始之际
13:43
the global全球 narcotics毒品 market市场 has expanded扩大 enormously巨大.
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全球的毒品市场就急速扩充得非常庞大
13:47
There has, however然而, been no concomitant伴随 increase增加
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不过却没有相应的增加
13:50
in the resources资源 available可得到
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用来对抗犯罪的资源
13:53
to police警察 forces军队.
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给警方
13:55
This, however然而, may可能 all be about to change更改,
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然而,这一切将有所改变
14:00
because something very strange奇怪 is going on.
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因为有些非常奇怪的事情正在发生
14:02
The United联合的 Nations国家 recognized认可
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联合国已经意识到
14:04
earlier this -- it was last month actually其实 --
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确切的说是上个月意识到
14:07
that Canada加拿大 has become成为 a key area of distribution分配 and production生产
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加拿大已经成为了一个重要的生产和分销地区
14:13
of ecstasy狂喜 and other synthetic合成的 drugs毒品.
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在摇头丸和其他合成毒品交易方面
14:17
Interestingly有趣的是, the market市场 share分享
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有趣的是,市场份额中
14:19
of heroin海洛因 and cocaine可卡因 is going down,
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海洛因和可卡因正在下降
14:22
because the pills are getting得到 ever better at reproducing再现 their highs高位.
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因为这些药丸在对它们所产生的作用进行改良。
14:27
Now that is a game游戏 changer,
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现在游戏规则改变了
14:31
because it shifts转变 production生产 away from the developing发展 world世界
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因为它把生产地从发展中国家转移到了
14:35
and into the Western西 world世界.
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西方世界
14:39
When that happens发生, it is a trend趋势
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当它发生成为一个趋势
14:41
which哪一个 is set to overwhelm压倒 our policing治安 capacity容量 in the West西.
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它就会超越我们西方警力的能力之外
14:45
The drugs毒品 policy政策 which哪一个 we've我们已经 had in place地点 for 40 years年份
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我们的缉毒警察已经原地踏步了40年
14:49
is long overdue过期的 for a very serious严重 rethink反思,
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而我们早应该对此严肃的重新思考一下
14:54
in my opinion意见.
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这是我个人观点
14:56
Now, the recession不景气.
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现在来谈谈经济衰退
14:58
Well, organized有组织的 crime犯罪 has already已经 adapted适应
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其实,有组织犯罪早已适应了
15:00
very well to the recession不景气.
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他们适应得非常好
15:02
Not surprising奇怪, the most opportunistic机会主义的 industry行业
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说他们是全世界最投机的商人
15:04
in the whole整个 world世界.
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一点也不奇怪
15:06
And it has no rules规则 to its regulatory监管 system系统.
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而且它没有规定和管制系统。
15:10
Except, of course课程, it has two business商业 risks风险:
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但是,他们也有两个经营上的风险
15:14
arrest逮捕 by law enforcement强制,
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一个是被依法逮捕,
15:16
which哪一个 is, frankly坦率地说, the least最小 of their worries,
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但是说真的,这是他们最不担心的
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and competition竞争 from other groups,
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第二个是与其他组织竞争
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i.e. a bullet子弹 in the back of the head.
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就像是脑门后抵着一把枪
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What they've他们已经 doneDONE is they've他们已经 shifted their operations操作.
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已收到威胁他们就会马上转移生意的运作
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People don't smoke抽烟 as much dope涂料, or visit访问 prostitutes妓女 quite相当 so frequently经常
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人们不再大量吸毒,也不常去找妓女
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during a recession不景气.
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因为经济衰退了
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And so instead代替, they have invaded入侵 financial金融
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于是他们转而加大了金融犯罪
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and corporate企业 crime犯罪 in a big way,
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和企业犯罪的投入
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but above以上 all, two sectors行业,
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整体而言有两个部分
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and that is counterfeit伪造 goods产品
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一个是假冒伪劣商品
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and cybercrime网络犯罪.
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另一个是网络犯罪
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And it's been terribly可怕 successful成功.
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而且非常成功。
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I would like to introduce介绍 you to Mr先生. Pringle普林格尔.
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我想向你们介绍Pringle先生。
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Or perhaps也许 I should say, more accurately准确, Señor Pringle普林格尔.
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或者更准确的说,Pringle先生(Señor,西班牙语中先生的意思)
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I was introduced介绍 to this bit of kit套件 by a Brazilian巴西人 cybercriminal网络犯罪.
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我是通过一位巴西网络罪犯认识他的
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We satSAT in a car汽车 on the Avenue大街 Paulista保利斯塔
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我们一起坐在车里,车停在圣保罗的
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in São Paulo圣保罗, together一起.
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Paulista 街道
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Hooked带钩 it up to my laptop笔记本电脑,
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通过我的笔记本电脑,
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and within about five minutes分钟 he had penetrated渗透
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不到5分钟他就侵入了电脑
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the computer电脑 security安全 system系统
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安全系统
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of a major重大的 Brazilian巴西人 bank银行.
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系统属于巴西某大型银行
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It's really not that difficult.
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那真的算不上难
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And it's actually其实 much easier更轻松 because
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而且可以说非常简单,因为
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the fascinating迷人 thing about cybercrime网络犯罪
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网络犯罪的诱人之处
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is that it's not so much the technology技术.
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就在于它并不是十分高科技
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The key to cybercrime网络犯罪 is what we call social社会 engineering工程.
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网络犯罪其实是一种我们称作为社会工程的东西
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Or to use the technical技术 term术语 for it,
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或者是术语上是这么用的
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there's one born天生 every一切 minute分钟.
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每一分钟都会有新的诞生
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You would not believe how easy简单 it is
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它简单到你无法想象
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to persuade说服 people to do things with their computers电脑
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要人们去使用他们的电脑
16:36
which哪一个 are objectively客观地 not in their interest利益.
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多数人都不会感兴趣
16:39
And it was very soon不久
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但是,很快的
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when the cybercriminals网络罪犯 learned学到了 that the quickest最快 way to do this,
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当网络罪犯们发现最快的一条通道
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of course课程, the quickest最快 way to a person's人的 wallet钱包
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当然是直接掏空别人的钱包
16:47
is through通过 the promise诺言 of sex性别 and love.
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用虚无的性爱承诺和爱情的盟约
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I expect期望 some of you remember记得 the ILOVEYOU我爱你 virus病毒,
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我想各位应该还记得“I-love-you"病毒吧
16:53
one of the very great worldwide全世界 viruses病毒 that came来了.
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他是全世界最成功的病毒之一
16:57
I was very fortunate幸运 when the ILOVEYOU我爱你 virus病毒 came来了 out,
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当这个病毒出现的时候我很幸运
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because the first person I received收到 it from
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因为第一个把它传播给我的人
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was an ex-girlfriend前女友 of mine.
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是我的前女友
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Now, she harbored怀着 all sorts排序 of sentiments情绪 and emotions情绪 towards me at the time,
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她当时对我有很多的情绪以及感受
17:10
but love was not amongst其中包括 them.
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不过“爱”绝对不在其中
17:12
(Laughter笑声)
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(笑声)
17:14
And so as soon不久 as I saw this drop下降 into my inbox收件箱,
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在我看见这些信在我的收信箱的时候
17:18
I dispatched出动 it hastily草草 to the recycle回收 bin箱子
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我马上就把它给删掉了
17:21
and spared幸免 myself a very nasty讨厌 infection感染.
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这让我省了不少的麻烦
17:26
So, cybercrime网络犯罪, do watch out for it.
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所以,大家真的要小心网络犯罪
17:30
One thing that we do know that the Internet互联网 is doing
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我们知道网络对于犯罪者而言
17:32
is the Internet互联网 is assisting协助 these guys.
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是帮助犯罪的工具
17:35
These are mosquitos蚊子 who carry携带 the malarial疟疾 parasite寄生物
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他们是携带着疟原虫的蚊子
17:38
which哪一个 infests滋生 our blood血液 when the mosyMOSY has had a free自由 meal膳食
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当得到免费的午餐他们就可以侵扰我们的血液
17:42
at our expense费用.
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并损害我们的利益。
17:44
Now, Artesunate青蒿琥酯 is a very effective有效 drug药物
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现在,青蒿琥酯是一种非常有效的药物
17:47
at destroying销毁 the parasite寄生物 in the early days
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它可以在感染的初期
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of infection感染.
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杀死寄生虫
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But over the past过去 year or so,
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但是在过去的一年
17:54
researchers研究人员 in Cambodia柬埔寨 have discovered发现
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柬埔寨的研究员发现
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that what's happening事件 is
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发生了些变化
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the malarial疟疾 parasite寄生物 is developing发展 a resistance抵抗性.
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这些寄生虫开始出现了抗药性
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And they fear恐惧 that the reason原因 why it's developing发展 a resistance抵抗性
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研究人员担心抗药性的产生
18:06
is because Cambodians柬埔寨 can't afford给予 the drugs毒品 on the commercial广告 market市场,
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是由于柬埔寨人无法负担一般市场的药物
18:10
and so they buy购买 it from the Internet互联网.
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所以他们只能从互联网上购买
18:13
And these pills contain包含 only low doses剂量
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然而者写药品内含的
18:15
of the active活性 ingredient成分.
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剂量不足
18:17
Which哪一个 is why
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这导致了变异的发生、
18:19
the parasite寄生物 is beginning开始 to develop发展 a resistance抵抗性.
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这些病菌没有被杀死,反而产生了抗药性
18:23
The reason原因 I say this
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我说这个原因是
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is because we have to know
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因为我们必须知道
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that organized有组织的 crime犯罪
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有组织犯罪
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impacts影响 all sorts排序 of areas of our lives生活.
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正冲击着我们生活中所有的方面
18:32
You don't have to sleep睡觉 with prostitutes妓女
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你不必去找妓女
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or take drugs毒品
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或者吸毒
18:37
in order订购 to have a relationship关系 with organized有组织的 crime犯罪.
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就可以跟有组织犯罪者发生关系
18:39
They affect影响 our bank银行 accounts账户.
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他们影响着我们的银行账户
18:41
They affect影响 our communications通讯, our pension养老金 funds资金.
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他们影响着我们的交流,我们的退休金
18:43
They even affect影响 the food餐饮 that we eat
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他们甚至影响我们的食物
18:47
and our governments政府.
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和我们的政府
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This is no longer an issue问题
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这已经不仅仅是一个来自于帕尔默和纽约的
18:52
of Sicilians西西里 from Palermo巴勒莫 and New York纽约.
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西西里黑手党问题了
18:55
There is no romance浪漫 involved参与 with gangsters歹徒
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黑手党们并不浪漫
18:58
in the 21stST Century世纪.
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在21世纪的今天
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This is a mighty威武 industry行业,
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他们是一个万能的行业
19:03
and it creates创建 instability不稳定 and violence暴力
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他们创造不稳定的局势和暴力
19:06
wherever哪里 it goes.
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不管到哪里
19:08
It is a major重大的 economic经济 force
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他们都会成为当地的主要经济力量
19:10
and we need to take it very, very seriously认真地.
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而我们需要非常非常严肃的对待这个问题
19:14
It's been a privilege特权 talking to you.
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很荣幸能跟各位聊这些
19:16
Thank you very much.
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非常感谢
19:18
(Applause掌声)
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(掌声)
Translated by Yi Zong
Reviewed by kira bellsprite

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ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Misha Glenny - Underworld investigator
Journalist Misha Glenny leaves no stone unturned (and no failed state unexamined) in his excavation of criminal globalization.

Why you should listen

In minute detail, Misha Glenny's 2008 book McMafia illuminates the byzantine outlines of global organized crime. Whether it's pot smugglers in British Columbia, oil/weapons/people traffickers in Eastern Europe, Japanese yakuza or Nigerian scammers, to research this magisterial work Glenny penetrated the convoluted, globalized and franchised modern underworld -- often at considerable personal risk.

The book that resulted is an exhaustive look at an unseen industry that Glenny believes may account for 15% of the world's GDP.

Legal society ignores this world at its peril, but Glenny suggests that conventional law enforcement might not be able to combat a problem whose roots lie in global instability.

While covering the Central Europe beat for the Guardian and the BBC, Glenny wrote several acclaimed books on the fall of Yugoslavia and the rise of the Balkan nations. He's researching a new book on cybercrime, of which he says: "The key to cybercrime is what we call social engineering. Or to use the technical term for it, there's one born every minute."

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