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Dave Isay: Everyone around you has a story the world needs to hear
Dave Isay: Vsakdo ima zgodbo, ki jo svet mora slišati
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Dave Isay je odprl prvo StoryCorps kabino na newyorški postaji Grand Central leta 2003. Njegov namen je bil ustvariti miren prostor, kjer bi lahko ljudje počastili nekoga, ki jim je blizu s tem, da bi poslušali njegovo zgodbo. Od takrat se je StoryCorps razvil v največjo obstoječo zbirko posnetkov človeških glasov.
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Dave Isay - Story collector
Over thousands of archived and broadcast interviews, StoryCorps founder Dave Isay -- winner of the 2015 TED Prize -- has created an unprecedented document of the dreams and fears that touch us all. Full bio
Over thousands of archived and broadcast interviews, StoryCorps founder Dave Isay -- winner of the 2015 TED Prize -- has created an unprecedented document of the dreams and fears that touch us all. Full bio
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Tonight, I'm going to try to make the case
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Danes bom poskušal zagovarjati tezo,
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that inviting a loved one, a friend
or even a stranger
or even a stranger
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da je lahko povabilo ljubljeni osebi,
prijatelju ali celo tujcu,
prijatelju ali celo tujcu,
00:19
to record a meaningful interview with you
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da z vami posname pomemben intervju,
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just might turn out to be one of the most
important moments in that person's life,
important moments in that person's life,
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eden najpomembnejših trenutkov
v življenju tega človeka
v življenju tega človeka
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and in yours.
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in tudi v vašem.
Pri 22ih letih sem imel srečo,
da sem odkril svoje poslanstvo,
da sem odkril svoje poslanstvo,
00:29
When I was 22 years old,
I was lucky enough to find my calling
I was lucky enough to find my calling
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when I fell into making radio stories.
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ko sem začel pisati radijske zgodbe.
00:35
At almost the exact same time,
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Skoraj istočasno
sem izvedel, da je moj oče,
s katerim sva si bila zelo blizu, gej.
s katerim sva si bila zelo blizu, gej.
00:37
I found out that my dad,
who I was very, very close to, was gay.
who I was very, very close to, was gay.
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I was taken completely by surprise.
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To je bilo popolno presenečenje.
00:44
We were a very tight-knit family,
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Bili smo si zelo blizu kot družina
00:47
and I was crushed.
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in to me je popolnoma potrlo.
00:49
At some point, in one
of our strained conversations,
of our strained conversations,
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V enem od najinih napetih pogovorov,
00:52
my dad mentioned the Stonewall riots.
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je oče omenil Stonewallski upor.
00:54
He told me that one night in 1969,
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Povedal mi je,
da se je v neki noči leta 1969
da se je v neki noči leta 1969
00:58
a group of young black
and Latino drag queens
and Latino drag queens
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skupina mladih temnopoltih
in latino transvestitov
in latino transvestitov
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fought back against the police
at a gay bar in Manhattan
at a gay bar in Manhattan
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uprla policiji
v gejevskem baru na Manhattnu,
v gejevskem baru na Manhattnu,
01:04
called the Stonewall Inn,
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ki se je imenoval Stonewall Inn
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and how this sparked
the modern gay rights movement.
the modern gay rights movement.
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in kako je to zanetilo
moderno gibanje za gejevske pravice.
moderno gibanje za gejevske pravice.
01:10
It was an amazing story,
and it piqued my interest.
and it piqued my interest.
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Ta neverjetna zgodba
je podžgala mojo radovednost.
je podžgala mojo radovednost.
01:13
So I decided to pick up my tape
recorder and find out more.
recorder and find out more.
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Odločil sem se, da vzamem svoj
snemalnik in poskusim izvedeti kaj več.
snemalnik in poskusim izvedeti kaj več.
01:17
With the help of a young archivist
named Michael Shirker,
named Michael Shirker,
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S pomočjo mladega arhivarja
Michaela Shirkerja
Michaela Shirkerja
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we tracked down all
of the people we could find
of the people we could find
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sem izsledil vse ljudi,
ki jih je bilo moč najti,
ki jih je bilo moč najti,
01:24
who had been at
the Stonewall Inn that night.
the Stonewall Inn that night.
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ki so bili tisto noč
v baru Stonwall Inn.
v baru Stonwall Inn.
01:27
Recording these interviews,
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Ko sem snemal intervjuje z njimi,
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I saw how the microphone
gave me the license
gave me the license
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sem videl,
kako mi mikrofon omogoča,
kako mi mikrofon omogoča,
01:32
to go places I otherwise
never would have gone
never would have gone
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da grem na lokacije,
ki jih sicer nikoli ne bi obiskal
ki jih sicer nikoli ne bi obiskal
01:34
and talk to people I might not
otherwise ever have spoken to.
otherwise ever have spoken to.
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in da govorim z ljudmi,
s katerimi drugače ne bi nikoli govoril.
s katerimi drugače ne bi nikoli govoril.
01:38
I had the privilege of getting to know
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Imel sem privilegij spoznati
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some of the most amazing,
fierce and courageous human beings
fierce and courageous human beings
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nekaj najbolj zanimivih,
prodornih in pogumnih ljudi,
prodornih in pogumnih ljudi,
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I had ever met.
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kar sem jih kdajkoli srečal.
01:46
It was the first time
the story of Stonewall
the story of Stonewall
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To je bilo prvič, da je
bila zgodba Stonewalla
bila zgodba Stonewalla
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had been told to a national audience.
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povedana na nacionalnem nivoju.
01:50
I dedicated the program to my dad,
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Oddajo sem posvetil svojemu očetu,
01:53
it changed my relationship with him,
and it changed my life.
and it changed my life.
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kar je spremenilo najin odnos
in moje življenje.
in moje življenje.
02:00
Over the next 15 years,
I made many more radio documentaries,
I made many more radio documentaries,
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V naslednjih 15ih letih sem posnel
še veliko radijskih dokumentarcev.
še veliko radijskih dokumentarcev.
02:03
working to shine a light on people
who are rarely heard from in the media.
who are rarely heard from in the media.
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Želel sem osvetliti življenja ljudi,
o katerih se v medijih le redko govori.
o katerih se v medijih le redko govori.
02:07
Over and over again,
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Vedno znova
02:09
I'd see how this simple act
of being interviewed
of being interviewed
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sem doživel, kako lahko
preprosto dejanje intervjuja
preprosto dejanje intervjuja
02:11
could mean so much to people,
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pomeni zelo veliko ljudem,
02:14
particularly those who had been told
that their stories didn't matter.
that their stories didn't matter.
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zlasti tistim, ki so jim govorili,
da njihove zgodbe niso pomembne.
da njihove zgodbe niso pomembne.
02:17
I could literally see
people's back straighten
people's back straighten
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Dobesedno sem videl,
kako so se vzravnali,
kako so se vzravnali,
02:20
as they started to speak
into the microphone.
into the microphone.
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ko so pričeli govoriti v mikrofon.
02:22
In 1998, I made a documentary
about the last flophouse hotels
about the last flophouse hotels
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Leta 1998 sem naredil dokumentarec
o zadnjih cenenih hotelih
o zadnjih cenenih hotelih
02:27
on the Bowery in Manhattan.
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ulice Bowery na Manhetnu.
02:29
Guys stayed up in these
cheap hotels for decades.
cheap hotels for decades.
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Nekateri so živeli v teh
poceni hotelih že desetletja.
poceni hotelih že desetletja.
02:32
They lived in cubicles
the size of prison cells
the size of prison cells
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Živeli so v kabinah
velikosti zaporniške celice,
velikosti zaporniške celice,
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covered with chicken wire
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pregrajenih z jekleno žico,
02:36
so you couldn't jump
from one room into the next.
from one room into the next.
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da nisi mogel skočiti
iz ene v drugo sobo.
iz ene v drugo sobo.
02:39
Later, I wrote a book on the men
with the photographer Harvey Wang.
with the photographer Harvey Wang.
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Pozneje sem s fotografom Harveyem
Wangom napisal knjigo o teh ljudeh.
Wangom napisal knjigo o teh ljudeh.
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I remember walking into a flophouse
with an early version of the book
with an early version of the book
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Spomnim se, ko sem prišel tja
z osnutkom knjige
z osnutkom knjige
02:47
and showing one of the guys his page.
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in pokazal enemu od stanovalcev
stran, ki mu je bila posvečena.
stran, ki mu je bila posvečena.
02:50
He stood there staring at it in silence,
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V tišini je stal tam in jo gledal,
02:52
then he grabbed the book out of my hand
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potem je porabil knjigo iz mojih rok
02:54
and started running down
the long, narrow hallway
the long, narrow hallway
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in stekel po dolgem, ozkem hodniku.
02:58
holding it over his head
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S knjigo nad glavo
02:59
shouting, "I exist! I exist."
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je vpil: "Obstajam, obstajam!"
03:04
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
03:08
In many ways, "I exist" became
the clarion call for StoryCorps,
the clarion call for StoryCorps,
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Na več načinov je ta "Obstajam" postal
imperativ, ki je privedel do StoryCorpsa,
imperativ, ki je privedel do StoryCorpsa,
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this crazy idea that I had
a dozen years ago.
a dozen years ago.
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ideje, ki sem jo dobil pred desetletjem.
03:16
The thought was to take
documentary work
documentary work
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Moja zamisel je bila, da bi
običajno dokumentarno delo
običajno dokumentarno delo
03:18
and turn it on its head.
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postavil na glavo.
03:20
Traditionally, broadcast documentary
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Tradicionalno so predvajali dokumentarce,
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has been about recording interviews
to create a work of art or entertainment
to create a work of art or entertainment
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ki so intervjuvali protagoniste
z namenom ustvarjati umetnost ali zabavo,
z namenom ustvarjati umetnost ali zabavo,
03:26
or education that is seen or heard
by a whole lot of people,
by a whole lot of people,
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ali izobraževanje, ki je splošno dostopno
veliko ljudem,
veliko ljudem,
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but I wanted to try something
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jaz pa sem hotel poskusiti
03:32
where the interview itself
was the purpose of this work,
was the purpose of this work,
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nov model, kjer je intervju
sam namen dela
sam namen dela
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and see if we could give many,
many, many people the chance
many, many people the chance
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in ugotoviti ali lahko damo
mnogo ljudem možnost
mnogo ljudem možnost
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to be listened to in this way.
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da bi bili slišani na ta način.
03:41
So in Grand Central Terminal 11 years ago,
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Tako smo na postaji Grand Central
pred enajstimi leti
pred enajstimi leti
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we built a booth where anyone
can come to honor someone else
can come to honor someone else
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zgradili kabino, kjer je kdorkoli
lahko prišel in počastil nekoga
lahko prišel in počastil nekoga
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by interviewing them about their life.
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tako, da ga je intervjuval
o njegovem življenju.
o njegovem življenju.
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You come to this booth and you're met
by a facilitator who brings you inside.
by a facilitator who brings you inside.
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Prideš v kabino,
kjer te sprejme moderator.
kjer te sprejme moderator.
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You sit across from, say, your grandfather
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Usedeš se nasproti, na primer,
svojega starega očeta
svojega starega očeta
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for close to an hour
and you listen and you talk.
and you listen and you talk.
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za približno uro in poslušaš in govoriš.
04:00
Many people think of it as,
if this was to be our last conversation,
if this was to be our last conversation,
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Mnogo ljudi gleda na to tako:
Če bi bil to najin zadnji pogovor
Če bi bil to najin zadnji pogovor
04:04
what would I want to ask of
and say to this person
and say to this person
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kaj bi hotel vprašati
in kaj povedati tej osebi,
in kaj povedati tej osebi,
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who means so much to me?
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ki mi toliko pomeni?
04:09
At the end of the session,
you walk away with a copy of the interview
you walk away with a copy of the interview
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Ob koncu dogodka,
odideš s posnetkom pogovora,
odideš s posnetkom pogovora,
04:13
and another copy goes
to the American Folklife Center
to the American Folklife Center
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drug izvod pa gre
Ameriškemu narodopisnemu centru
Ameriškemu narodopisnemu centru
04:15
at the Library of Congress
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pri Kongresni knjižnici,
04:18
so that your great-great-great-grandkids
can someday get to know your grandfather
can someday get to know your grandfather
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da bodo lahko vaši pra-pra-pra pravnuki
nekega dne spoznali vašega starega očeta
nekega dne spoznali vašega starega očeta
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through his voice and story.
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skozi njegov glas in njegovo zgodbo.
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So we open this booth
in one of the busiest places in the world
in one of the busiest places in the world
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To kabino smo odprli
v enem najbolj hektičnih mest na svetu
v enem najbolj hektičnih mest na svetu
04:28
and invite people to have this
incredibly intimate conversation
incredibly intimate conversation
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in povabili ljudi na te
neverjetno intimne pogovore
neverjetno intimne pogovore
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with another human being.
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z drugim človeškim bitjem.
04:33
I had no idea if it would work,
but from the very beginning, it did.
but from the very beginning, it did.
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Sanjalo se mi ni, če bo ideja delovala,
pa je, že od vsega začetka.
pa je, že od vsega začetka.
04:38
People treated the experience
with incredible respect,
with incredible respect,
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Ljudje so izkušnjo doživeli
z veliko mero spoštovanja
z veliko mero spoštovanja
04:41
and amazing conversations happened inside.
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in neverjetni pogovori
so se zgodili znotraj kabine.
so se zgodili znotraj kabine.
04:44
I want to play just one animated excerpt
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Rad bi vam zavrtel animiran odlomek
04:47
from an interview recorded
at that original Grand Central Booth.
at that original Grand Central Booth.
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intervjuja, posnetega v originalni kabini
na postaji Grand Central.
na postaji Grand Central.
04:50
This is 12-year-old Joshua Littman
interviewing his mother, Sarah.
interviewing his mother, Sarah.
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Slišali boste 12 letnega Joshuo Littmana,
ki intervjuva svojo mamo, Saro.
ki intervjuva svojo mamo, Saro.
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Josh has Asperger's syndrome.
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Josh ima aspergerjev sindrom.
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As you may know, kids with Asperger's
are incredibly smart
are incredibly smart
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Kot morda veste, so ti otroci
neverjetno inteligentni,
neverjetno inteligentni,
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but have a tough time socially.
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niso pa spretni v socialnih situacijah.
05:02
They usually have obsessions.
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Ponavadi imajo obsesije.
05:04
In Josh's case, it's with animals,
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V Joshovem primeru so to živali.
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so this is Josh talking with his mom Sarah
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To je torej Josh,
ki se pogovarja s svojo mamo Saro
ki se pogovarja s svojo mamo Saro
05:09
at Grand Central nine years ago.
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na Grand Centralu, pred devetimi leti.
05:12
(Video) Josh Littman:
From a scale of one to 10,
From a scale of one to 10,
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(Video) Josh Littman:
Na lestvici od ena do deset,
Na lestvici od ena do deset,
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do you think your life would be
different without animals?
different without animals?
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ali misliš, da bi bilo tvoje življenje
drugačno brez živali?
drugačno brez živali?
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Sarah Littman: I think it would be
an eight without animals,
an eight without animals,
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Sara Littman: mislim, da bi izbrala
osmico brez živali,
osmico brez živali,
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because they add so much pleasure to life.
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saj dodajo veliko veselja življenju.
05:22
JL: How else do you think your life
would be different without them?
would be different without them?
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JL: Na kakšen način bi bilo
tvoje življenje drugačno brez njih?
tvoje življenje drugačno brez njih?
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SL: I could do without things
like cockroaches and snakes.
like cockroaches and snakes.
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SL: Lahko bi živela na primer
brez ščurkov in kač.
brez ščurkov in kač.
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JL: Well, I'm okay with snakes
as long as they're not venomous
as long as they're not venomous
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JL: Meni so kače v redu,
če niso strupene
če niso strupene
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or constrict you or anything.
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in če te ne zadavijo.
05:32
SL: Yeah, I'm not a big snake person --
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SL: Jaz nisem prav navdušena nad njimi.
05:34
JL: But cockroach is just
the insect we love to hate.
the insect we love to hate.
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JL: Ščurek pa je le insekt,
ki ga radi sovražimo.
ki ga radi sovražimo.
05:37
SL: Yeah, it really is.
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SL: Ja, prav res.
05:38
JL: Have you ever thought
you couldn't cope with having a child?
you couldn't cope with having a child?
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JL: Si kdaj pomislila, da ne boš zmogla,
ko si dobila otroka?
ko si dobila otroka?
05:41
SL: I remember when you were a baby,
you had really bad colic,
you had really bad colic,
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SL: Spomnim se, ko si bil dojenček
in si imel hude trebušne krče
in si imel hude trebušne krče
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so you would just cry and cry.
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in nisi in nisi nehal jokati.
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JL: What's colic?
SL: It's when you get this stomach ache
SL: It's when you get this stomach ache
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JL: Kaj so krči?
SL: To je, ko te zelo boli trebuh
SL: To je, ko te zelo boli trebuh
05:50
and all you do is scream
for, like, four hours.
for, like, four hours.
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in potem samo kričiš, tudi po več ur.
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JL: Even louder than Amy does?
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JL: Še glasneje, kot kriči Amy?
05:54
SL: You were pretty loud,
but Amy's was more high-pitched.
but Amy's was more high-pitched.
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SL: Bil si precej glasen,
Amy pa ima bolj predirljiv jok.
Amy pa ima bolj predirljiv jok.
05:57
JL: I think it feels like everyone
seems to like Amy more,
seems to like Amy more,
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JL: Zdi se mi, da imajo vsi raje Amy,
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like she's the perfect little angel.
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kot bi bila popolni mali angelček.
06:03
SL: Well, I can understand
why you think that people like Amy more,
why you think that people like Amy more,
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SL: Razumem, zakaj se ti zdi,
da imajo ljudje raje Amy.
da imajo ljudje raje Amy.
06:07
and I'm not saying it's because
of your Asperger's syndrome,
of your Asperger's syndrome,
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Ne pravim, da je to zaradi
tvojega Aspergerjevega sindroma,
tvojega Aspergerjevega sindroma,
06:10
but being friendly comes easily to Amy,
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ampak Amy je lažje biti prijazna,
06:13
whereas I think for you
it's more difficult,
it's more difficult,
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zate pa se zdi, da je to težje.
06:15
but the people who take the time
to get to know you love you so much.
to get to know you love you so much.
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Toda ljudje, ki si vzamejo čas,
da te spoznajo, te imajo zelo radi.
da te spoznajo, te imajo zelo radi.
06:19
JL: Like Ben or Eric or Carlos?
SL: Yeah --
SL: Yeah --
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JL: Kot na primer Ben, Erik ali Carlos?
SL: Ja --
SL: Ja --
06:22
JL: Like I have better quality friends
but less quantity? (Laughter)
but less quantity? (Laughter)
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JL: Imam boljšo kvaliteto prijateljev
in manjšo kvantiteto? (Smeh)
in manjšo kvantiteto? (Smeh)
06:26
SL: I wouldn't judge
the quality, but I think --
the quality, but I think --
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SL: Ne bi sodila o kvaliteti,
ampak mislim--
ampak mislim--
06:29
JL: I mean, first it was like, Amy
loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia,
loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia,
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JL: Amy, na primer,
ima rada Klavdijo, potem je ne mara,
ima rada Klavdijo, potem je ne mara,
06:32
she loved Claudia, then she hated Claudia.
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pa jo ima spet rada in je spet ne mara.
06:34
SL: Part of that's a girl thing, honey.
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SL: To je bolj stvar deklic, srček.
06:36
The important thing for you
is that you have a few very good friends,
is that you have a few very good friends,
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Pomembno zate je, da imaš
nekaj res dobrih prijateljev,
nekaj res dobrih prijateljev,
06:40
and really that's what you need in life.
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to je pravzaprav vse
kar potrebuješ v življenju.
kar potrebuješ v življenju.
06:42
JL: Did I turn out to be the son
you wanted when I was born?
you wanted when I was born?
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JL: Ali sem postal sin, ki si ga hotela,
ko sem se rodil?
ko sem se rodil?
06:46
Did I meet your expectations?
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Ali sem dosegel tvoja pričakovanja?
06:49
SL: You've exceeded
my expectations, sweetie,
my expectations, sweetie,
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SL: Presegel si moja pričakovanja, srček.
06:52
because, sure, you have these fantasies
of what your child's going to be like,
of what your child's going to be like,
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Seveda imaš neke predstave
o tem, kakšen bo tvoj otrok,
o tem, kakšen bo tvoj otrok,
06:56
but you have made me grow
so much as a parent, because you think --
so much as a parent, because you think --
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toda ti si me prisilil, da sem
se morala preseči kot starš, saj misliš--
se morala preseči kot starš, saj misliš--
07:00
JL: Well, I was the one
who made you a parent.
who made you a parent.
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JL: No, saj sem te jaz naredil za starša.
07:02
SL: You were the one who made me a parent.
That's a good point. (Laughter)
That's a good point. (Laughter)
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SL: Zaradi tebe sem postala starš.
Imaš prav. (Smeh)
Imaš prav. (Smeh)
07:06
But also because you think differently
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Ampak tudi, ker razmišljaš drugače,
07:08
from what they tell you
in the parenting books,
in the parenting books,
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kot te učijo knjige o starševstvu,
07:11
I really had to learn to think
outside of the box with you,
outside of the box with you,
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sem se morala naučiti razmišljati
izven svojih običajnih okvirjev;
izven svojih običajnih okvirjev;
07:14
and it's made me much more creative
as a parent and as a person,
as a parent and as a person,
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tako sem postala veliko bolj kreativna
kot starš in kot oseba.
kot starš in kot oseba.
07:19
and I'll always thank you for that.
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Vedno ti bom hvaležna za to.
07:21
JL: And that helped when Amy was born?
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JL: Ti je to pomagalo,
ko si rodila Amy?
ko si rodila Amy?
07:22
SL: And that helped when Amy was born,
but you are so incredibly special to me
but you are so incredibly special to me
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SL: To je pomagalo, ko se je rodila Amy.
Ti si zame tako nekaj posebnega;
Ti si zame tako nekaj posebnega;
07:27
and I'm so lucky to have you as my son.
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veliko srečo imam, da si moj sin.
07:31
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
07:38
David Isay: After this story
ran on public radio,
ran on public radio,
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David Isay: Ko je bila ta zgodba
predvajana na radiu,
predvajana na radiu,
07:41
Josh received hundreds of letters
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je Josh prejel stotine pisem,
07:43
telling him what an amazing kid he was.
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ki so govorila, kako krasen otrok je.
07:45
His mom, Sarah, bound them
together in a book,
together in a book,
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Njegova mama Sara
je iz njih naredila knjigo
je iz njih naredila knjigo
07:47
and when Josh got picked on at school,
they would read the letters together.
they would read the letters together.
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in ko so se otroci v šoli
spravili na Josha, sta jih skupaj brala.
spravili na Josha, sta jih skupaj brala.
07:51
I just want to acknowledge
that two of my heroes
that two of my heroes
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Rad bi povedal, da sta oba junaka zgodbe
07:53
are here with us tonight.
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danes z nami.
07:55
Sarah Littman and her son Josh,
who is now an honors student in college.
who is now an honors student in college.
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Sara Littman in njen sin Josh,
ki je zdaj odličen učenec na kolidžu.
ki je zdaj odličen učenec na kolidžu.
08:00
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
08:03
You know, a lot of people talk about
crying when they hear StoryCorps stories,
crying when they hear StoryCorps stories,
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Veliko ljudi pove, da jokajo,
ko poslušajo zgodbe StoryCorpsa,
ko poslušajo zgodbe StoryCorpsa,
08:07
and it's not because they're sad.
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pa to ni zato, ker so zgodbe žalostne.
08:09
Most of them aren't.
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Večina jih ni.
08:10
I think it's because you're hearing
something authentic and pure
something authentic and pure
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Mislim, da je to zato, ker slišijo
nekaj pristnega in čistega
nekaj pristnega in čistega
08:14
at this moment,
when sometimes it's hard to tell
when sometimes it's hard to tell
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v tem času, ko včasih težko ločimo
08:16
what's real and what's an advertisement.
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kaj je res in kaj je le marketing.
08:19
It's kind of the anti-reality TV.
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Na nek način je to anti-resničnostni šov.
08:21
Nobody comes to StoryCorps to get rich.
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Nihče ne pride v StoryCorps,
da bi obogatel.
da bi obogatel.
08:23
Nobody comes to get famous.
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Nihče ne pride, da bi postal slaven.
08:25
It's simply an act of generosity and love.
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Gre preprosto za dejanje
velikodušnosti in ljubezni.
velikodušnosti in ljubezni.
08:28
So many of these are just everyday people
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Večina je povsem navadnih ljudi,
08:31
talking about lives lived with kindness,
courage, decency and dignity,
courage, decency and dignity,
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ki govorijo o življenjih, živetih s
prijaznostjo, pogumom in dostojanstvom
prijaznostjo, pogumom in dostojanstvom
08:36
and when you hear that kind of story,
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in ko slišiš tako zgodbo
08:38
it can sometimes feel
like you're walking on holy ground.
like you're walking on holy ground.
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imaš včasih občutek,
da hodiš po sveti zemlji.
da hodiš po sveti zemlji.
08:42
So this experiment
in Grand Central worked,
in Grand Central worked,
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Eksperiment na Grand Centralu
je torej deloval,
je torej deloval,
08:45
and we expanded across the country.
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zato smo se razširili po vsej deželi.
08:47
Today, more than 100,000 people
in all 50 states
in all 50 states
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Danes je že več kot 100.000 ljudi
v vseh petdesetih državah
v vseh petdesetih državah
08:50
in thousands of cities
and towns across America
and towns across America
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in tisočih mestih po celi Ameriki
08:53
have recorded StoryCorps interviews.
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posnelo StoryCorps intervjuje.
08:56
It's now the largest single collection
of human voices ever gathered.
of human voices ever gathered.
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To je trenutno največja obstoječa
zbirka človeških glasov.
zbirka človeških glasov.
09:00
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
09:06
We've hired and trained
hundreds of facilitators
hundreds of facilitators
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Najeli in usposobili smo
stotine moderatorjev,
stotine moderatorjev,
09:09
to help guide people
through the experience.
through the experience.
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ki pomagajo in vodijo ljudi
skozi to izkušnjo.
skozi to izkušnjo.
09:11
Most serve a year or two with StoryCorps
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Večina na StoryCorpsu dela leto ali dve,
09:14
traveling the country,
gathering the wisdom of humanity.
gathering the wisdom of humanity.
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potujejo po deželi
in zbirajo modrosti človeštva.
in zbirajo modrosti človeštva.
09:17
They call it bearing witness,
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Temu pravijo pričevanje
09:19
and if you ask them,
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in če jih boste vprašali,
09:21
all of the facilitators will tell you
that the most important thing
that the most important thing
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vam bodo povedali,
da je najpomembnejša stvar,
da je najpomembnejša stvar,
09:24
they've learned from being present
during these interviews
during these interviews
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ki so se jo naučili ob
pričevanju tem intervjujem
pričevanju tem intervjujem
09:27
is that people are basically good.
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to, da so ljudje v osnovi dobri.
09:30
And I think for the first years
of StoryCorps, you could argue
of StoryCorps, you could argue
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V prvih letih delovanja
StoryCorpsa bi lahko temu oporekali,
StoryCorpsa bi lahko temu oporekali,
09:33
that there was some kind
of a selection bias happening,
of a selection bias happening,
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češ da obstaja neka pristranska selekcija,
09:36
but after tens of thousands of interviews
with every kind of person
with every kind of person
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ampak po deset tisočih intervjujev
z vsemi mogočimi ljudmi,
z vsemi mogočimi ljudmi,
09:39
in every part of the country --
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v vsakem koncu dežele--
09:41
rich, poor, five years old to 105,
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bogati, revni, od pet do stopetletnikov,
09:44
80 different languages,
across the political spectrum --
across the political spectrum --
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80 različnih jezikov,
različna politična prepričanja --
različna politična prepričanja --
09:49
you have to think that maybe these guys
are actually onto something.
are actually onto something.
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si moramo priznati, da imajo
morda ti ljudje prav.
morda ti ljudje prav.
09:53
I've also learned so much
from these interviews.
from these interviews.
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Tudi sam sem se ogromno naučil
iz teh intervjujev.
iz teh intervjujev.
09:56
I've learned about the poetry
and the wisdom and the grace
and the wisdom and the grace
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O poeziji, o modrosti in o milosti,
09:59
that can be found in the words
of people all around us
of people all around us
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ki jo najdemo v besedah ljudi okoli nas,
10:02
when we simply take the time to listen,
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ko si preprosto vzamemo čas za poslušanje.
10:05
like this interview
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Kot na primer ta intervju
10:09
between a betting clerk in Brooklyn
named Danny Perasa
named Danny Perasa
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med uradnikom iz Brooklyna,
Dannyjem Perasem,
Dannyjem Perasem,
10:12
who brought his wife Annie to StoryCorps
to talk about his love for her.
to talk about his love for her.
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ki je pripeljal svojo ženo Annie,
da bi ji povedal o svoji ljubezni do nje.
da bi ji povedal o svoji ljubezni do nje.
(Avdio) Danny Perasa: Veš, takole je:
10:18
(Audio) Danny Perasa: You see,
the thing of it is,
the thing of it is,
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Vedno se počutim krivega,
ko ti rečem "ljubim te."
ko ti rečem "ljubim te."
10:20
I always feel guilty when I say
"I love you" to you.
"I love you" to you.
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10:23
And I say it so often.
I say it to remind you
I say it to remind you
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In pogosto ti to povem.
Povem ti zato, da te spomnim,
Povem ti zato, da te spomnim,
da ne glede na to, kako nemaren sem,
to prihaja iz mene.
to prihaja iz mene.
10:26
that as dumpy as I am,
it's coming from me.
it's coming from me.
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10:29
It's like hearing a beautiful song
from a busted old radio,
from a busted old radio,
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Je kot bi slišal krasno pesem
iz starega, hreščečega radia
iz starega, hreščečega radia
10:32
and it's nice of you to keep
the radio around the house.
the radio around the house.
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in lepo od tebe je,
da si obdržala ta star radio.
da si obdržala ta star radio.
10:35
Annie Perasa: If I don't have a note
on the kitchen table,
on the kitchen table,
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Annie Perasa: Če ne najdem
sporočila na kuhinjski mizi,
sporočila na kuhinjski mizi,
mislim, da je nekaj narobe.
10:38
I think there's something wrong.
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Vsako jutro mi napišeš
ljubezensko pismo.
ljubezensko pismo.
10:39
You write a love letter
to me every morning.
to me every morning.
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DP: Edina stvar, ki bi lahko šla narobe,
10:41
DP: Well, the only thing
that could possibly be wrong
that could possibly be wrong
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bi bila, da nisem našel kulija.
10:44
is I couldn't find a silly pen.
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AP: Moji princesi:
10:45
AP: To my princess:
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Zunaj močno dežuje.
10:46
The weather outside today
is extremely rainy.
is extremely rainy.
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Poklical te bom ob 11:20.
10:49
I'll call you at 11:20 in the morning.
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10:51
DP: It's a romantic weather report.
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DP: Romantična vremenska napoved.
10:52
AP: And I love you.
I love you. I love you.
I love you. I love you.
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AP: Ljubim te. Ljubim te.
Ljubim te.
Ljubim te.
10:55
DP: When a guy is happily married,
no matter what happens at work,
no matter what happens at work,
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DP: Ko je nekdo srečno poročen,
ni važno kaj se zgodi v službi,
ni važno kaj se zgodi v službi,
10:58
no matter what happens
in the rest of the day,
in the rest of the day,
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ni važno, kaj se zgodi v preostanku dneva;
11:00
there's a shelter when you get home,
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doma ga čaka zatočišče,
11:02
there's a knowledge knowing
that you can hug somebody
that you can hug somebody
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ve, da lahko nekoga objame,
11:05
without them throwing you downstairs
and saying, "Get your hands off me."
and saying, "Get your hands off me."
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ne da bi ga ta oseba zavrnila s
"Pusti me na miru."
"Pusti me na miru."
11:08
Being married is like having
a color television set.
a color television set.
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Biti poročen je kot bi imel
barvno televizijo.
barvno televizijo.
11:11
You never want to go back
to black and white.
to black and white.
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Nikoli več nočeš črno-bele.
(Smeh)
11:13
(Laughter)
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11:16
DI: Danny was about five feet tall
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DI: Danny je imel približno meter in pol,
11:18
with crossed eyes
and one single snaggletooth,
and one single snaggletooth,
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je škilil in imel le en kriv zob,
11:22
but Danny Perasa had
more romance in his little pinky
more romance in his little pinky
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toda Danny Perasa je premogel
več romantike v svojem mezincu,
več romantike v svojem mezincu,
11:26
than all of Hollywood's
leading men put together.
leading men put together.
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kot vsi holivudski lepotci skupaj.
11:29
What else have I learned?
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Kaj sem se še naučil?
11:31
I've learned about the almost
unimaginable capacity
unimaginable capacity
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Naučil sem se o skoraj
nepredstavljivi sposobnosti
nepredstavljivi sposobnosti
11:33
for the human spirit to forgive.
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odpuščanja človeškega duha.
11:36
I've learned about resilience
and I've learned about strength.
and I've learned about strength.
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Naučil sem se o vzdržljivosti in o moči.
11:39
Like an interview with Oshea Israel
and Mary Johnson.
and Mary Johnson.
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Na primer pri intervjuju
med Osheo Israelom in Mary Johnson.
med Osheo Israelom in Mary Johnson.
11:43
When Oshea was a teenager,
he murdered Mary's only son,
he murdered Mary's only son,
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Ko je bil Oshea najstnik,
je ubil Maryjinega edinega sina,
je ubil Maryjinega edinega sina,
11:47
Laramiun Byrd, in a gang fight.
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Laramiuna Byrda, v uličnem pretepu.
11:50
A dozen years later, Mary went to prison
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Desetletje kasneje je Mary šla v zapor,
11:52
to meet Oshea and find out
who this person was
who this person was
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da bi spoznala Osheo in ugotovila
kdo je ta oseba,
kdo je ta oseba,
11:55
who had taken her son's life.
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ki je vzela življenje njenemu sinu.
11:58
Slowly and remarkably,
they became friends,
they became friends,
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Počasi in proti pričakovanjem
sta postala prijatelja.
sta postala prijatelja.
12:01
and when he was finally released
from the penitentiary,
from the penitentiary,
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Ko je bil končno izpuščen iz zapora,
12:03
Oshea actually moved in next door to Mary.
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se je Oshea nastanil
poleg Maryjinega doma.
poleg Maryjinega doma.
12:07
This is just a short excerpt
of a conversation they had
of a conversation they had
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To je le kratek izsek pogovora,
ki sta ga imela
ki sta ga imela
12:10
soon after Oshea was freed.
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kmalu po tem, ko je bil Oshea izpuščen.
12:14
(Video) Mary Johnson: My natural son
is no longer here.
is no longer here.
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(Video) Mary Johnson: Mojega sina
ni več tu.
ni več tu.
12:17
I didn't see him graduate,
and now you're going to college.
and now you're going to college.
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Nisem ga videla diplomirati,
zdaj pa greš ti na kolidž.
zdaj pa greš ti na kolidž.
12:20
I'll have the opportunity
to see you graduate.
to see you graduate.
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Imela bom možnost videti tebe diplomirati.
12:24
I didn't see him get married.
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Nisem doživela njegove poroke.
12:26
Hopefully one day, I'll be able
to experience that with you.
to experience that with you.
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Upam, da bom nekega dne
lahko to izkusila pri tebi.
lahko to izkusila pri tebi.
12:30
Oshea Israel: Just to hear you
say those things and to be
say those things and to be
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Oshea Israel: Samo da slišim
te tvoje besede, in da si
te tvoje besede, in da si
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in my life in the manner
in which you are is my motivation.
in which you are is my motivation.
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v mojem življenju na ta način,
je zame motivacija.
je zame motivacija.
12:36
It motivates me to make sure
that I stay on the right path.
that I stay on the right path.
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Motivira me,
da se trudim ostati na pravi poti.
da se trudim ostati na pravi poti.
12:41
You still believe in me,
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Še vedno verjameš vame
12:43
and the fact that you can do it
despite how much pain I caused you,
despite how much pain I caused you,
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in da si zmožna tega, ne glede na
vso bolečino, ki sem ti jo povzročil,
vso bolečino, ki sem ti jo povzročil,
12:47
it's amazing.
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je neverjetno.
12:49
MJ: I know it's not an easy thing
to be able to share our story together,
to be able to share our story together,
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MJ: Vem, da ni lahko skupaj
deliti najino zgodbo,
deliti najino zgodbo,
12:55
even with us sitting here
looking at each other right now.
looking at each other right now.
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celo ko zdaj tu sediva in se gledava.
12:57
I know it's not an easy thing,
so I admire that you can do this.
so I admire that you can do this.
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Vem, da ni lahko in te
občudujem, ker to zmoreš.
občudujem, ker to zmoreš.
13:03
OI: I love you, lady.
MJ: I love you too, son.
MJ: I love you too, son.
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OI: Rad te imam, gospa.
MJ: Tudi jaz te imam rada, sin.
MJ: Tudi jaz te imam rada, sin.
13:12
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
13:18
DI: And I've been reminded countless times
of the courage and goodness of people,
of the courage and goodness of people,
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DI: Neštetokrat so me intervjuji spomnili
na pogum in dobroto ljudi
na pogum in dobroto ljudi
13:23
and how the arc of history
truly does bend towards justice.
truly does bend towards justice.
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in na to, kako se tok zgodovine vedno
usmeri proti pravičnosti.
usmeri proti pravičnosti.
13:28
Like the story of Alexis Martinez,
who was born Arthur Martinez
who was born Arthur Martinez
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Kot zgodba Alexis Martinez,
ki se je rodila kot Arthur Martinez
ki se je rodila kot Arthur Martinez
13:33
in the Harold Ickes projects in Chicago.
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v naselju projekta Harold Ickes
v Chicagu.
v Chicagu.
13:35
In the interview, she talks
with her daughter Lesley
with her daughter Lesley
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V intervjuju govori s hčerko Lesley
13:38
about joining a gang as a young man,
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o tem, kako se je
kot mlad fant pridružila tolpi
kot mlad fant pridružila tolpi
13:40
and later in life transitioning
into the woman she was always meant to be.
into the woman she was always meant to be.
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in kako je kasneje v življenju
spremenila spol in postala ženska.
spremenila spol in postala ženska.
13:45
This is Alexis and her daughter Lesley.
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To sta Alexis in njena hči Lesley.
13:48
(Audio) Alexis Martinez: One of the most
difficult things for me was
difficult things for me was
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(Avdio) Alexis Martinez: Ena najtežjih
stvari zame je bil
stvari zame je bil
13:51
I was always afraid that
I wouldn't be allowed
I wouldn't be allowed
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strah, da ne bom imela dovoljenja
13:54
to be in my granddaughters' lives,
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biti prisotna v življenju svojih vnukinj,
13:57
and you blew that completely
out of the water,
out of the water,
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toda ti si ta strah povsem ovrgla.
13:59
you and your husband.
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Ti in tvoj mož.
14:00
One of the fruits of that is,
in my relationship with my granddaughters,
in my relationship with my granddaughters,
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En od rezultatov tega v mojem
odnosu z vnukinjami je,
odnosu z vnukinjami je,
14:04
they fight with each other sometimes
over whether I'm he or she.
over whether I'm he or she.
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da se včasih kregajo med sabo,
če sem ona ali on.
če sem ona ali on.
14:07
Lesley Martinez: But they're free
to talk about it.
to talk about it.
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Lesley Martinez: Ampak prosto
lahko govorijo o tem.
lahko govorijo o tem.
14:10
AM: They're free to talk about it,
but that, to me, is a miracle.
but that, to me, is a miracle.
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AM: Lahko govorijo o tem,
ampak zame je to pravi čudež.
ampak zame je to pravi čudež.
14:13
LM: You don't have to apologize.
You don't have to tiptoe.
You don't have to tiptoe.
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LM: Ni se ti treba opravičevati
in biti previdna glede besed.
in biti previdna glede besed.
14:16
We're not going to cut you off,
and that's something I've always
and that's something I've always
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Ne bomo te izločili.
To je nekaj, kar sem vedno
To je nekaj, kar sem vedno
želela da veš: da si ljubljena.
14:21
wanted you to just know,
that you're loved.
that you're loved.
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14:24
AM: You know, I live this every day now.
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AM: Veš, zdaj to živim vsak dan.
14:26
I walk down the streets as a woman,
and I really am at peace with who I am.
and I really am at peace with who I am.
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Hodim po ulicah kot ženska
in res sem pomirjena s tem kdo sem.
in res sem pomirjena s tem kdo sem.
14:31
I mean, I wish I had a softer voice maybe,
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Mogoče si želim,
da bi imela nežnejši glas,
da bi imela nežnejši glas,
14:34
but now I walk in love
and I try to live that way every day.
and I try to live that way every day.
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ampak zdaj živim v ljubezni
in tako skušam živeti vsak dan.
in tako skušam živeti vsak dan.
14:43
DI: Now I walk in love.
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DI: Zdaj živim v ljubezni.
14:46
I'm going to tell you
a secret about StoryCorps.
a secret about StoryCorps.
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Povedal vam bom skrivnost
o StoryCorpsu.
o StoryCorpsu.
14:49
It takes some courage
to have these conversations.
to have these conversations.
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Potrebno je nekaj poguma,
da imamo take pogovore.
da imamo take pogovore.
14:53
StoryCorps speaks to our mortality.
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StoryCorps nagovarja našo umrljivost.
14:55
Participants know this recording
will be heard long after they're gone.
will be heard long after they're gone.
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Udeleženci vedo, da bodo ti posnetki
slišani dolgo po tem, ko jih več ne bo.
slišani dolgo po tem, ko jih več ne bo.
14:59
There's a hospice doctor named Ira Byock
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Zdravnik Ira Byock, ki dela v hospicu,
15:02
who has worked closely with us
on recording interviews
on recording interviews
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je sodeloval z nami in snemal intervjuje
15:04
with people who are dying.
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z umirajočimi.
15:06
He wrote a book called
"The Four Things That Matter Most"
"The Four Things That Matter Most"
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Napisal je knjigo z naslovom
"Štiri najpomembnejše stvari"
"Štiri najpomembnejše stvari"
15:09
about the four things you want to say
to the most important people in your life
to the most important people in your life
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o štirih stvareh, ki jih želiš reči
najpomembnejšim ljudem v tvojem življenju
najpomembnejšim ljudem v tvojem življenju
15:12
before they or you die:
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pred smrtjo:
15:15
thank you, I love you,
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hvala, rad te imam,
15:18
forgive me, I forgive you.
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odpusti mi, odpuščam ti.
15:21
They're just about the most powerful words
we can say to one another,
we can say to one another,
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To so najmočnejše besede,
ki jih lahko izrečemo en drugemu
ki jih lahko izrečemo en drugemu
15:25
and often that's what happens
in a StoryCorps booth.
in a StoryCorps booth.
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in to se pogosto zgodi
v kabini StoryCorpsa.
v kabini StoryCorpsa.
15:28
It's a chance to have a sense of closure
with someone you care about --
with someone you care about --
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Občutek možnosti dokončanja odnosa
z nekom, ki nam je drag --
z nekom, ki nam je drag --
15:32
no regrets, nothing left unsaid.
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nič obžalovanj, nič neizrečenega.
15:34
And it's hard and it takes courage,
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Je težko in zahteva pogum,
15:38
but that's why we're alive, right?
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toda zato smo živi, kajne?
15:43
So, the TED Prize.
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Torej, TED nagrada.
15:45
When I first heard from TED
and Chris a few months ago
and Chris a few months ago
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Ko me je prvič kontaktiral
TED in Chris pred meseci
TED in Chris pred meseci
15:48
about the possibility of the Prize,
I was completely floored.
I was completely floored.
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glede možnosti nagrade,
sem bil povsem prevzet.
sem bil povsem prevzet.
15:52
They asked me to come up
with a very brief wish for humanity,
with a very brief wish for humanity,
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Prosili so me, da napišem
kratko željo za človeštvo,
kratko željo za človeštvo,
15:56
no more than 50 words.
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ne več kot 50 besed.
15:57
So I thought about it,
I wrote my 50 words,
I wrote my 50 words,
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Premislil sem in napisal teh 50 besed
16:00
and a few weeks later,
Chris called and said, "Go for it."
Chris called and said, "Go for it."
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in nekaj tednov kasneje
me je poklical Chris in mi dal zeleno luč.
me je poklical Chris in mi dal zeleno luč.
16:05
So here is my wish:
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Tu je moja želja:
16:08
that you will help us
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Da bi nam pomagali
16:11
take everything we've learned
through StoryCorps
through StoryCorps
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razširiti vse, kar smo se naučili
skozi StoryCorps
skozi StoryCorps
16:14
and bring it to the world
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na cel svet.
16:16
so that anyone anywhere
can easily record a meaningful interview
can easily record a meaningful interview
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Da bi lahko vsak kjerkoli
z lahkoto posnel pomemben intervju
z lahkoto posnel pomemben intervju
16:20
with another human being
which will then be archived for history.
which will then be archived for history.
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z drugim človeškim bitjem,
ki bo potem arhiviran za prihodnje rodove.
ki bo potem arhiviran za prihodnje rodove.
16:25
How are we going to do that? With this.
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Kako bomo to dosegli? S tem.
16:30
We're fast moving into a future
where everyone in the world
where everyone in the world
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Hitimo v prihodnost,
kjer bo imel vsak na svetu
kjer bo imel vsak na svetu
16:34
will have access to one of these,
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dostop do enega od teh,
16:36
and it has powers I never
could have imagined 11 years ago
could have imagined 11 years ago
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ki imajo moč, ki si je niti predstavljati
nisem mogel pred enajstimi leti,
nisem mogel pred enajstimi leti,
16:39
when I started StoryCorps.
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ko smo začeli s StoryCorpsom.
16:41
It has a microphone,
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Ima mikrofon,
16:43
it can tell you how to do things,
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lahko ti da navodila
16:45
and it can send audio files.
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in lahko pošilja glasovne datoteke.
16:48
Those are the key ingredients.
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To so osnovne sestavine.
16:50
So the first part of the wish
is already underway.
is already underway.
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Prvi del želje je tako že v teku.
16:53
Over the past couple of months,
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V zadnjih mesecih
16:55
the team at StoryCorps
has been working furiously
has been working furiously
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je ekipa StoryCorpsa zagnano razvijala
16:58
to create an app that will bring
StoryCorps out of our booths
StoryCorps out of our booths
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aplikacijo, ki bo pripeljala
StoryCorps ven iz kabin,
StoryCorps ven iz kabin,
17:01
so that it can be experienced
by anyone, anywhere, anytime.
by anyone, anywhere, anytime.
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da ga bo lahko izkusil
kdorkoli, kjerkoli, kadarkoli.
kdorkoli, kjerkoli, kadarkoli.
17:07
Remember, StoryCorps has always
been two people and a facilitator
been two people and a facilitator
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Spomnite se, SoryCorps je vedno
predstavljal dva človeka in moderatorja,
predstavljal dva človeka in moderatorja,
17:10
helping them record their conversation,
which is preserved forever,
which is preserved forever,
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ki jima je pomagal posneti pogovor,
ki se ga bo hranilo za vse čase.
ki se ga bo hranilo za vse čase.
17:14
but at this very moment,
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Toda prav zdaj
17:16
we're releasing a public beta version
of the StoryCorps app.
of the StoryCorps app.
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izdajamo beta verzijo
StoryCorps aplikacije.
StoryCorps aplikacije.
17:20
The app is a digital facilitator
that walks you through
that walks you through
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Ta aplikacija deluje kot moderator,
ki te vodi skozi
ki te vodi skozi
17:23
the StoryCorps interview process,
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proces StoryCorps intervjuja,
17:26
helps you pick questions,
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ti pomaga izbrati vprašanja
17:27
and gives you all the tips you need
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in ti ponuja nasvete, ki jih potrebuješ,
17:29
to record a meaningful
StoryCorps interview,
StoryCorps interview,
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da posnameš pomemben
StoryCorps intervju,
StoryCorps intervju,
17:32
and then with one tap upload it
to our archive at the Library of Congress.
to our archive at the Library of Congress.
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potem pa ga zgolj s pritiskom tipke
arhiviraš v Kongresni knjižnici.
arhiviraš v Kongresni knjižnici.
17:38
That's the easy part, the technology.
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To je lažji del naloge, tehnologija.
17:41
The real challenge is up to you:
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Pravi izziv pa ostaja vam:
17:43
to take this tool and figure out
how we can use it
how we can use it
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da izkoristite to orodje in
ugotovite, kako ga lahko uporabimo
ugotovite, kako ga lahko uporabimo
17:46
all across America and around the world,
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po vsej Ameriki in po vsem svetu,
17:49
so that instead of recording
thousands of StoryCorps interviews a year,
thousands of StoryCorps interviews a year,
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da bo namesto tisoče posnetih
StoryCorp intervjujev letno,
StoryCorp intervjujev letno,
17:53
we could potentially record
tens of thousands
tens of thousands
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potencialno posnetih deset tisoče
17:56
or hundreds of thousands
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ali stotine tisočev
17:58
or maybe even more.
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in morda celo več.
18:01
Imagine, for example,
a national homework assignment
a national homework assignment
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Predstavljaje si, na primer,
nacionalno domačo nalogo,
nacionalno domačo nalogo,
18:05
where every high school student
studying U.S. history across the country
studying U.S. history across the country
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kjer bi moral vsak študent
ameriške zgodovine po celi državi
ameriške zgodovine po celi državi
18:09
records an interview
with an elder over Thanksgiving,
with an elder over Thanksgiving,
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posneti intervju s starejšo osebo
ob zahvalnem dnevu.
ob zahvalnem dnevu.
18:11
so that in one single weekend
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Tako bi bila v enem samem vikendu
18:14
an entire generation of American lives
and experiences are captured.
and experiences are captured.
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zajeta ameriška življenja
in izkušnje celotne generacije.
in izkušnje celotne generacije.
18:19
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
18:27
Or imagine mothers on opposite
sides of a conflict somewhere in the world
sides of a conflict somewhere in the world
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Predstavljajte si matere na nasprotnih
straneh konflikta nekje na svetu,
straneh konflikta nekje na svetu,
18:31
sitting down not to talk
about that conflict
about that conflict
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ki bi se usedle k pogovoru,
pa ne da bi govorile o konfliktu,
pa ne da bi govorile o konfliktu,
18:34
but to find out who they are as people,
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pač pa, da bi ugotovile, kdo so ti ljudje
18:37
and in doing so,
begin to build bonds of trust;
begin to build bonds of trust;
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in bi na ta način pričele
graditi vezi zaupanja;
graditi vezi zaupanja;
18:41
or that someday it becomes
a tradition all over the world
a tradition all over the world
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ali pa, da bi nekoč
postala tradicija po vsem svetu,
postala tradicija po vsem svetu,
18:44
that people are honored
with a StoryCorps interview
with a StoryCorps interview
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da bi se ljudi počastilo
s StoryCorps intervjujem
s StoryCorps intervjujem
18:46
on their 75th birthday;
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na njihov 75 rojstni dan;
18:48
or that people in your community
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ali pa, da bi ljudje v vaši skupnosti
18:51
go into retirement homes or hospitals
or homeless shelters or even prisons
or homeless shelters or even prisons
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šli v domove za ostarele, v bolnišnice
ali v zavetišča za brezdomce, v zapore
ali v zavetišča za brezdomce, v zapore
18:56
armed with this app to honor the people
least heard in our society
least heard in our society
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opremljeni s to aplikacijo in počastili
ljudi, ki sicer niso slišani,
ljudi, ki sicer niso slišani,
18:59
and ask them who they are,
what they've learned in life,
what they've learned in life,
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jih povprašali kdo so,
kaj so se naučili v življenju
kaj so se naučili v življenju
19:02
and how they want to be remembered.
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in kako želijo, da se jih spominjamo.
19:05
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
19:12
Ten years ago, I recorded
a StoryCorps interview with my dad
a StoryCorps interview with my dad
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Pred desetimi leti sem posnel
StoryCorps intervju s svojim očetom,
StoryCorps intervju s svojim očetom,
19:16
who was a psychiatrist,
and became a well-known gay activist.
and became a well-known gay activist.
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ki je bil psihiater
in je postal znan gejevski aktivist.
in je postal znan gejevski aktivist.
19:21
This is the picture
of us at that interview.
of us at that interview.
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To je najina slika ob tistem intervjuju.
19:24
I never thought about that recording
until a couple of years ago,
until a couple of years ago,
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Nikoli nisem mislil na ta intervju,
do pred nekaj leti,
do pred nekaj leti,
19:27
when my dad, who seemed
to be in perfect health
to be in perfect health
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ko je moj oče, za katerega se je zdelo,
da je popolnoma zdrav,
da je popolnoma zdrav,
19:30
and was still seeing patients
40 hours a week,
40 hours a week,
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ki je še vedno sprejemal paciente
40 ur na teden,
40 ur na teden,
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was diagnosed with cancer.
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dobil diagnozo raka.
19:35
He passed away very suddenly
a few days later.
a few days later.
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Le nekaj dni za tem
je povsem nenadno umrl.
je povsem nenadno umrl.
19:39
It was June 28, 2012,
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Bil je 28. junij 2012,
19:41
the anniversary of the Stonewall riots.
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obletnica Stonewallskega upora.
19:46
I listened to that interview
for the first time at three in the morning
for the first time at three in the morning
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Ta intervju sem prvič
poslušal ob treh zjutraj
poslušal ob treh zjutraj
19:49
on the day that he died.
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na dan, ko je umrl.
19:51
I have a couple of young kids at home,
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Doma imam majhna otroka
19:53
and I knew that the only way
they were going to get to know this person
they were going to get to know this person
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in vedel sem, da je edini način,
da bosta lahko spoznala to osebo,
da bosta lahko spoznala to osebo,
19:56
who was such a towering figure in my life
would be through that session.
would be through that session.
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ki je bila tako ključna v mojem življenju,
skozi ta posnet pogovor.
skozi ta posnet pogovor.
20:01
I thought I couldn't believe in StoryCorps
any more deeply than I did,
any more deeply than I did,
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Mislil sem, da ne morem
še bolj verjeti v StoryCorps,
še bolj verjeti v StoryCorps,
20:05
but it was at that moment
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ampak v tistem trenutku sem
20:06
that I fully and viscerally grasped
the importance of making these recordings.
the importance of making these recordings.
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v vsej polnosti in z vsem svojim bitjem
občutil pomembnost teh posnetkov.
občutil pomembnost teh posnetkov.
20:11
Every day, people come up to me
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Vsak dan prihajajo k meni ljudje,
20:13
and say, "I wish I had interviewed
my father or my grandmother or my brother,
my father or my grandmother or my brother,
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ki mi pravijo: "Želim si, da bi
intervjuval očeta ali babico ali brata,
intervjuval očeta ali babico ali brata,
20:18
but I waited too long."
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pa sem čakal predolgo."
20:20
Now, no one has to wait anymore.
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Zdaj ni treba nikomur več čakati.
20:22
At this moment,
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V tem času,
20:24
when so much of how we communicate
is fleeting and inconsequential,
is fleeting and inconsequential,
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ko je toliko komunikacije
bežne in nepomembne,
bežne in nepomembne,
20:27
join us in creating this digital archive
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vas vabimo k skupnemu
ustvarjanju digitalnega arhiva
ustvarjanju digitalnega arhiva
20:30
of conversations that are
enduring and important.
enduring and important.
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pogovorov, ki so trajni in pomembni.
20:34
Help us create this gift to our children,
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Pomagajte nam ustvariti
to darilo za naše otroke,
to darilo za naše otroke,
20:37
this testament to who
we are as human beings.
we are as human beings.
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ta testament vsemu,
kar smo kot človeška bitja.
kar smo kot človeška bitja.
20:41
I hope you'll help us make
this wish come true.
this wish come true.
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Upam, da nam boste pomagali
izpolniti to željo.
izpolniti to željo.
20:45
Interview a family member, a friend
or even a stranger.
or even a stranger.
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Intervjuvajte člana družine,
prijatelja ali celo tujca.
prijatelja ali celo tujca.
20:49
Together, we can create an archive
of the wisdom of humanity,
of the wisdom of humanity,
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Skupaj lahko ustvarimo
arhiv modrosti človeštva
arhiv modrosti človeštva
20:56
and maybe in doing so,
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in morda se bomo na ta način
20:57
we'll learn to listen a little more
and shout a little less.
and shout a little less.
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naučili bolj poslušati in manj kričati.
21:01
Maybe these conversations will remind us
what's really important.
what's really important.
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Morda nas bodo ti pogovori spomnili
na to, kar je zares pomembno.
na to, kar je zares pomembno.
21:06
And maybe, just maybe,
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In morda, samo morda
21:08
it will help us recognize
that simple truth
that simple truth
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nam bo to pomagalo
prepoznati preprosto resnico,
prepoznati preprosto resnico,
21:11
that every life, every single life,
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ki pravi, da je vsako življenje,
prav vsako
prav vsako
21:15
matters equally and infinitely.
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enako in neskončno pomembno.
21:18
Thank you very much.
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Najlepša hvala.
21:20
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
21:22
Thank you. Thank you.
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Hvala. Hvala.
21:27
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
21:29
Thank you.
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Hvala.
21:31
(Applause)
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(Aplavz)
ABOUT THE SPEAKER
Dave Isay - Story collectorOver thousands of archived and broadcast interviews, StoryCorps founder Dave Isay -- winner of the 2015 TED Prize -- has created an unprecedented document of the dreams and fears that touch us all.
Why you should listen
From the first interview he recorded, 2015 TED Prize winner and MacArthur Fellow Dave Isay knew he’d found his calling: preserving the stories of everyday Americans. Since then, Isay has amassed hundreds of thousands of recordings, most of previously unheard or ignored voices, all speaking in their own words. The archives of StoryCorps -- which Isay founded in 2003 -- are included at the Library of Congress’ American Folklife Center, and now constitute the largest single collection of recorded voices in history.
StoryCorps invites friends, loved ones and strangers to conduct 40-minute interviews at intimate recording booths in Atlanta, Chicago, San Francisco, and (until 2011) New York, as well as in mobile studios nationwide. Offering moving and surprising glimpses into the hearts of often marginalized and forgotten subjects, the interviews are a familiar feature of NPR’s Morning Edition and Storycorps.org.
At TED2015, Isay shared an audacious wish for StoryCorps: to open up the format from its signature booths with a StoryCorps app that allows anyone to add to this "digital archive of the collective wisdom of humanity." The vision: to broaden this idea, and begin to take it global.
Dave Isay | Speaker | TED.com